Wait, what? What is it that she has said?

She has a bad habit of making comments when she shouldn't. She talked about how a show set in the 40's shouldn't be criticized for having no black characters because the only role a black person could have in the 40's was as a servant. Before that she's had a history of defending white lady authors who write regrettable white lady things and come in for criticism. I've avoided her internet presence for awhile so anything more recent than that is beyond me.@@saragustavsson3387

She’s been my favorite author since I was 12, and my grandpa showed me her books, and I inherited his copies from him when he died, and I’ve been building a d&d campaign off Tortall, if that’s true I’m gonna cry, holy shit

Noooo 😢

SHE WHAT NOO

I feel like this apply to the whole situation of the Snow White remake disaster.

Karl Marx truly resonated with his modern audience

Yes, can confirm this isnt a random quote from the internet. This was written in crayon while Marx was 5 and preserved in the Karl Marx Museum

Because people who have to be constantly active and always have the urge to get things done have a masculine energy, Marx was basically right. Natural femininity is not about getting things done, but rather about being at peace and not feeling the need to "do" much. This doesn't mean that feminine women look at the wall all day, but they tend to be calmer and also more creative.

I’m a trans male and an artist?!

Well we sadly have been learning that people aren't really as aware of anti-colonial ideology as they think they are.

@@Princess_Weekes but is it really that they’re “not as aware”, or is it more that they simply (VERY simply, like imo it’s not 4D chess of them at all) hope you fail to catch what I believe to be the truth, which is that they don’t care at all? I wonder if allowing that “they’re not aware” is giving the colonizers the credit that they absolutely hope you’ll give them.

lol right? like I've only played Witcher 3, but the whole game is like "turns out the real monsters were the bigots we met along the way!"

@@billyalarie929THIS. I firmly believe that it truly does not matter if they read any source material for anything that has inherent leftist thought or not. Even if they did, fascists and conservatives in general are so media illiterate that they will never get the point of anything while actively picking and choosing the parts that conveniently support their rhetoric. They, and I cannot stress this enough, do not give a flying fuck what actually makes fun of them and their beliefs because fascists love the illusion that they’re always right

​@billyalarie929 I feel like assuming people are more likely feigning ignorance to disguise apathy as a grand conspiracy level "gotcha" moment is giving them more credit than just thinking that maybe some people don't know as much as they thought. Like, it's probably true for at least someone, but if you don't care about something then why are you putting effort into pretending you do?

I read "dear friend" and actually cackled.

@@moll8MMF's voice acting definitely added a lot to it too

They were all Pikachu confused she was Black even though it was in the books.

Ugh, don’t remind me. I still remember someone saying that her death wasn’t sad anymore because of the casting. Reason why I can’t get enthusiastic about possible adaptations of Tamora Pierce or Ursula Le Guin’s work, much as I’d love to see some actual good ones.

I remember that too like it was really mind boggling and just shows that they don't care about "canon" they just wanna be upset.

People also got mad when Godfrey Gao was cast as Magnus Bane in the City of Bones series because he wasn't white. Future books dived even further into his background and history and made it clear he's mixed and Asian. People throwing tantrums when non-white characters are accurately casted. 😢 I'm praying reading comprehension becomes sexy and stylish again.

@@KaiInMotion Also, just NOT being racist.

That's interesting to know. I've tried the first chapter of the first book (i think?), and the first scene was a woman (a sex worker??? Idk) going in the witcher's temporary bedroom and getting on top of him to have sex while he was still half asleep. Honestly, that put me off immediately; having watched the first season of the tv show, i felt bad in the book he wasnt even allowed to give clear signs of consent :/ To me, from outside, it looked like a classic male sexual fantasy, but it felt sad, knowing how witchers are seen in that world.

@@glitch84- Seems like you're talking about framing device of the first set of short stories, The Last Wish. IIRC it is later clarified that it was a consensual encounter, although I haven't reread that book in years (and not once in English so no idea about quality of translation - Saga, quoted in this essay, was decent). Would definitely encourage you to give books an another try, maybe even starting with different short story - likevEternal Flame or A Question of Price which are just a little bit more light-hearted

@sz5001 thank you! The tv show made me really interested, but that put me out. I'm not terribly sensible to those themes, but after the show, I wanted him to just be happy and loved and cared for 🥹 Probably, a thing I shouldnt have expected from the first book, lol😅. I'll follow your suggestions! Have a nice day! Edit. Doesnt it matter the order i read the books? Arent the stories linked?

@@glitch84- The Last Wish sets up the setting & relationship with Yennefer and Jaskier; Sword of Destiny introduces layers to their story and starts Ciri and Nilfgaard plotline. There are a couple of short stories in those 2 sets that can be read independently but as a whole it is best to go with that order.

@sz5001 you are being extremely helpful and kind! Thank you for taking the time to reply to me!

Yeah, I think even if they didn't hire Polish actor, they should have brought in some more people with that background to add things like specific food, clothing, slang, etc. It feels like they turned it into a generic Western Fantasy look, which just makes it look like anything else.

​@@Princess_WeekesThey initially brought on a Polish director and animator Tomasz Baginski, who has made a number of cinematics for the games, to serve as a consultant/executive producer on the show but it seems like he had very little creative control or has been pushed out completely.

@@Princess_Weekes Honestly that was what i came in to the show hoping for hoping for. I don't think I saw a single Pierogi like they couldn't even do that?? Feels they did the bare minimum by keeping the monsters and names and just made everything generic.

@@hawkins347 really??? Man... that's such a shame

I would have loved it if they went more into the lesser known fairy tales like Hans My Hedgehog.

Yuppp!

Truth!

I always wondered “what olives are they referring to?” based on who they cast in those roles…. Or maybe I just haven’t tried enough diverse type of olives

@@slickandslaycious6579 olive skinned means having a general green undertone (basically, your wrist veins will show up green under your skin instead of blue or purple. it can range from very pale to pretty dark, and it's a skin tone often found among middle eastern people, desi people, persian, italians, greeks etc. So it's not really an indicator of race and unfortunately they just always cast the white olives lmao

@@kasairan8492 ah! Thanks!

The makeup is on point. I especially love the lipstick.

You're convincing me to give the books another try. I had issues with the shift from the short stories (that I loved) into the novels, and wasn't sure if the story wasn't working, or if it was the translation, or just how I was feeling at the time. But I think I'll give them another go. Great video! (Watched on Nebula, just here to feed the algo.)

Your makeup looks fucking nice! Also your hair looks cool, but I will admit that I'm so used to straight hair that curly hair usually looks cool to me.

Your makeup does look great but also thanks for making this, great vid!😊

IT LOOKS SO GOOODD!!!! did you match the gold highlights to your septum ring???? i am DESTROYED

Or geralt repeatedly learning that staying "neutral" doesnt make him a good guy. It just makes him someone who steps aside. Like yh, there arent really any good choices to make in the books. But geralt pretends he can stay out of it and then repeatedly is shocked when people he could have stopped... Slaughter other people. Spoiler-ish content: He knows about a conspiracy. He can either join them or betray them. He does neither, he just watches it unfold in the name of neutrality. When chaos ensues and people get killed all over the place he acts like he couldnt have done sth to at least limit the death count. And people from both Sides laugh in his face because his allegiance absolutely could have saved their side.

I've only played the games, and Ciri's 'queerness' in TW3 is pretty much non-existent. How is her apparent queerness in the books handled?

@@SabiJD Her sexuality is pretty much non-existent in TW3. it's not really relevant. You get one line where you can say you're into a guy or not, or prefer women, and that's it as far as I can remember. I keep getting distracted so I havne't even finished Blood of Elves though, so all I know about Ciri is as a little child unfortunately.

@@SabiJD Ciri has a very toxic and fucked up and abusive relationship with another girl(Mistle) in the books. It's a fairly important part of Ciri's story that very much had an effect on her. edit to clarify: the toxicity of the relationship has nothing to do with Ciri's queerness and more to do with how they were both traumatized and emotionally fucked up teens with a lot of unhealthy habits.

@@SabiJD She's tomboy-ish from an early age and struggles with her feminine side / sexuality while growing up, which is influenced by a trumatic encounter while fleeing Cintra. It gets shoved aside when she's put into real danger and is thrown into sexual relationshiop with another teenage girl, Mistle. It doesn't start pretty or all that consensual, but it's best she's had at that time. It looks like Ciri then tries exploring her sexuality with men and books end on a rather positive note with Ciri pondering if she'd like to examine it further or not. I doubt Sapko really planned on her being queer, but she's rightfully read like one.

For real. And I loved that actress. Just wished she was playing Madeline Miller's Circe instead, because it definitely felt like that's the work they actually wanted to adapt.

Too bad all the bad faith criticism poisoned the well from the beginning.

Yeah the costumes in later seasons are so ridiculously bad i legit mistook screenshot from show for being a screenshot from some amateur video on KZfaq like DnD short sketches and even these had like more soul and fun to it

​@@MRuby-qb9bd I loved her too! I'd die on a hill that she's still a bad casting choice for Yennefer though. She looks so youthful and sounds so youthful, even her body language and expressions are very pronounced and out there. Book Yen is all about contrast, and I always had imagined her graceful and reserved against bursts of emotions when agitated, much more mature both in looks and in vibe. Netflix!Yen feels way to young, pair it with troublesome rewriting and she feels like she's a teenager going through puberty a lot.

If anything, I'd argue that the cast is one of the show's strong suits. Anya Chalotra and Mimî M. Khayisa are more than ok in their respective roles. Anna Shaffer is excellent as Triss -- perhaps not in her looks, but she gets the overall vibe of the character across in a way that's 100% faithful to the books. MyAnna Buring *is* Tissaia, period. Graham McTavish (Djikstra) and Lars Mikkelsen (Stregobor) are also great in their roles, even if underused. Sadly, good actors can't save the show from bad writers.

Man I hate this anti woke era we're in, it's like the anti sjw era of YT but 10x worse. I'm tired of hearing neckbeards and legbeards complain about how a woman having short or died hair will be the end of Western Civilization somehow.

I'm really looking forward to seeing them talk about Marvels failing because "woke" when Barbie just made like a bajillion dollars lol

Yes, is the same with blood origins. That show is weird but most of the times I try to talk what would improve someone is complaining it's a girlboss show and that's the only reason it's bad. Not pacing, not story, just someone freaking out because the lead is black and a woman

In my opinion woke is a vague term that encompasses a general trend in Hollywood to pander to diversity and female audiences by pushing basic messages or taking existing properties and changing races and genders. Hollywood wanted to to boost their sales by capturing wider markets than their traditional demographics. However, putting in effort with new characters or well written stories is difficult and doesn't guarantee profits. What does guarantee profits are major IPs. However, these major IPs already have characters in them that may not match the diversity Hollywood wants so they just change the race or gender of people then push out a hastily written script. There have been a torrent of low quality movies and shows. This makes it tougher for actual passion projects to shine because if a diversity message seems to be present, fans are now conditioned to assume this is low quality sludge. In addition, studios, trying to hold onto box office numbers have waged a war on angered fans which has lead to many people not trusting review sites or studios when they try and support quality films. Sony famously deleted most comments that criticized Ghostbusters 2016 except for sexist comments to give the impression that all negative comments came from sexist people. Star Wars The Last Jedi was criticized by fans but the narrative shifted to all the fans hated Rey and Rose and they were sexist and racist. This lead to anger from fans who had no problem with the characters existing but rather how bad the stories and writing was. However, the bridges have been burned and it's a problem they created and there's no easy way out of it. As these fans are pushed out by studios who paint all criticism as racism or sexism, they congregate online and start complaining on how this "woke" trend is just replacing all their characters. Then online conflict ensues.

@@acorlite What??? These people always complain about male/white driven media. And about non white driven media. That's basically half of fandom. Any change made to a source material will lead to backlash from fans which is why change is dangerous for established IPs. The bigger the change the bigger the risk. The point of making a movie associated with a big IP is the built in fanbase guarantees recouping some or all of your money (everything on top is gravy). However, you now have far less flexibility on how you act. You have to respect the universe and established characters. Any change made must be for a specific reason and you must weigh the benefit of the change against the risk of losing a portion of the fans. When Heath Ledger was announced to be The Joker and early photos of his look came out, the fanbase was up in arms. They viewed him as a "pretty boy" who had only done romance and teen movies and wasn't a good fit for that character. They hated the new look of the costume as it didn't match the traditional Joker outfit in the cartoons and comics. DC was taking a big gamble and many were ready for it to fail.... until the movie came out. When people saw the movie, they recognized that it was a far more grounded take and that Heath Ledger nailed the performance. The acting was great, the writing was great, and the fans slowly started quieting down as they realized it was't the catastrophe they anticipated. The movie was lauded and the fanbase joined in on the support. Another example of fanbases revolting is Star Trek.... basically half way into every show or at the start of every new show. However, unfortunately for Star Trek, they have struggled to nail the landing. Every show has flawed writing or effects or world building. Each time Star Trek's owners attempt to reboot the franchise in the hope that this is the one that will unite the fans and bring it to the same level that Star Wars has achieved in the past. Each time, they fail to execute things properly and the fans are unhappy. So.... yeah, people are ranting about how Hollywood is pushing all this "woke" stuff but that's really because Hollywood has been turning out so much sludge and most of it has been a cheap attempt to do diversity. Hollywood doesn't care about real diversity, they want to quickly change someone's sex or race, then turn out the same movie as before and print more money. Fans of these properties, are not happy and not supporting the changes. But they also bash other things they don't like... you're just not paying attention to the other stuff because it's a topic you're not passionate about.

Regis is just a great character all around. An old, powerful vampire who happens to be a teetotaler with a regrettable past, who becomes best mates with a monster slayer, and ends up being one of the most humane characters we meet in the series

@@whyonthefall5373 Yeah, I'm glad I dropped the show because I don't want to see my boy butchered like Nivelen.

Search “Witcher 3 non-human witch hunt” for what I’m talking about.

It's true but it's definitely both extreme ends of the spectrum preventing productive discussion.

@@ellencoleman4604 Idk, I feel like refusing to watch something on the basis that there are women and minorities in it and hitting us with the "it's woke" criticism is what's really shutting that conversation down. At this point, most anti-woke sentiment has become just straight up discriminatory, imo.

that’s exactly what they’re doing. imo the best thing to do is just ignore them and be honest. they’re trying to ensure we’ll only exist under the criticisms they literally just made up & don’t even believe. start a new narrative about how a show that wants to be progressive but fails at many steps.

@@ellencoleman4604lol obvious centrist coping. we don’t want to be killed or harassed. alt-righters want us killed and harassed. they’re aggressive because they want us dead. we’re only aggressive because if we’re not they’ll walk all over us. we are not the same. take your “I’m smarter than everyone because ONLY I KNOW both sides are equally bad” ass arguments out of progressive comments. go attention seek elsewhere

@@ellencoleman4604 What's the other end of the spectrum doing to prevent productive conversation?

True. The books make the differences between the species very explicit. The cave scene between Geralt and Avallac'h for example

I agree. There's a gaping hole that they filled with generic fantasy tropes; the hole is lack of Slavic cultural influence. That is something I love about the books. They aren't generic American fantasy books vaguely inspired by European medieval times. They are rooted in a culture, that I've come to understand is pretty different from the American one. It's closer to mine in some ways.

This is something that has always really annoyed me, the way the 'slavic-ness' of the source material gets lost in the process of adaptation, almost like Polish/slavic culture gets absorbed by this broader westernized concept of it. I'm not Polish but I am Bulgarian, another slavic culture, and I was huge into fantasy as a teen. Across the tons of series I was being exposed to at the time, The Witcher books were the only ones where the atmosphere, tone and the way characters were speaking REALLY resonated with me in ways other dark fantasy stuff like Game of Thrones really couldn't. It's kinda frustrating cause I can't even begin to explain why it felt like that without getting into absurdly long and (probably) incoherent ramblings about East-european history/culture, nationwide psychology and, like, actual linguistics, but it's a fact that I felt much more 'at home' reading about these characters than anything else. The games somewhat captured that feeling (Chapter 4 of Witcher 1 and wandering around the outskirts of Novigrad in W3, talking to and helping out random peasants, is still the closest it ever got), but the show never even came close. To flashy, too shiny, too pretty, too artificial. It feels like what I imagine almost any American remake of a foreign piece of media feels to the members of the culture where it originally came from

A lot of slavicness of the books comes from the way whole world and characters are miserable, which is hard to capture.

@@wireless_cow miserable but also weirdly hopeful and positive sometimes, even when it usually ends in tragedy or on some bittersweet note. The small moments where the dark fantasy gets taken over by a sense of melancholia and takes a short break to revel in the idylic simplicity of rural life, before it becomes necessary to snap back to the (usually) unpleasant reality. Stuff like showing scenes of incredible cruelty and bleakness only to follow it up with scenes of incredible humanity and solidarity. It's almost paradoxal, but it captures the highs and lows of human nature so well. Some kind of nihilistic optimism, if I had to give it a category. That's why I love the books so much

It’s something I’ve come to dub “americanization” - the assimilation of European culture into just “white” culture when adapted by American productions. Sure they will add a diverse cast (a good thing) but they also just ignore the rich cultural tapestry of the various European countries and cultures that inform the stories they adapt. It’s the same phenomenon you see on social media where everyone English speaking and/or white/passing is expected to be up to date and take a position on American politics, while America (generally) doesn’t care that these people have their own politics (or what they are).

the fact that they made poor Francesca wear blue contacts...... hate crime

This comment just made me realised the actress who plays Francesca is mixed 😮 I had go google it and I'm completely shocked!

holy crap I'm a white polish American guy and in the show she looks even whiter than me lol. I had no idea she was black.

You literally just made me look up her actress and my jaw is on the floor, I would have noticed she wasn't white

Sometimes I think people assume that the whiteness of older fantasy and the gender roles that are associated with the genre, mean that they all think those things should forever be the default.

@@Princess_Weekes Ok, but THIS. Finding fantasy set in those olden times that isn't at least a little racist or baselessly sexist is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. The world is literally fictional with magic, it doesn't have to have all the real world problems we have.

@@Princess_Weekes Imagine switching gender and race of African folklore characters or form india "IITS ONLY FANTASY"!. They even aiming historic characters like Cleopatra.

​@@PiotrPavelThat's when you step into reality and realize that there's barely been authentic media inspired by African or Indian folklore, meanwhile the default western european folklore has been done and redone over and over and over again for decades

​@@LucasSantos-ss6ouHmm, that might have been because most creators in the western zeidgeist you reside in are le ghasp west europeans and west european descent amerucans... On a related note: Wizards of Earthsea books, Kirikuo and the sorceress (and related works) mivie, The famished road, so on. African authors do write african fantasy, indian authors do write indian fantasy. There are plenty of literature with the setting you want, if you are willing to step away from the mainsteam and consume something not presented to you by a known american source.....

THIS THIS THIS. It was a perfect way to make it stand out as much as Game of Thrones did. Hell, moreso even if ur was done well. Because they understood visual consistency and depicting cultures on screen.

But polish nobility would dress up a lot like other Central European countries, especially in earlier medieval periods (10th to 14th century). The unique vibe is always there, but many stuff that receives accusations for its blandness are not THAT inaccurate to Polish fashion history. I do agree though that Polish culture is beautiful, and I'd love to see more of it being interpreted for the design of the show. It's just... not like Poland isn't a part of Europe.

Hell yeah! I was just about to comment that too. I have all the books and love to reread them, I wish more people knew and talked about them!

I loved them too. Sometimes I think it's good they never made a series of them because then they get to exist in a nuanced way for each reader. And they don't have to be subjected to the whims of studios and focus groups and consumer metrics.

You mean the communist author writing under a communist government? No, couldn't possibly be him. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Shareholders don’t want to bank on anything new because the masses only want familiarity. It’s a constant struggle because when something new breaks through it then becomes the new “thing” and other studios jump on the bandwagon to capitalise on it .

Yes, this. The Witcher show is a great example of a show taking source material that already has worthwhile political themes, failing to adapt or even grasp them, and replacing them with something generic, tokenish, and often just plain incoherent.

I appreciate that

You comment remind me of the title that I read on the critical drinker's (you know the dude who screams about brown people being on screen for 5 seconds) video about South Park's Pandaverse. Says something like "we're winning." Like winning against what? The woke football team 😂

@@kittykittybangbang9367 I had no clue who that guy was but then I played one of his videos and I have 100% heard his voice before 🤣

I admit that it wasn't until he dropped charade that I really began to enjoy his take on the character. His season 1 persona was so different I just couldn't get behind it. I'm glad he was able to flex a bit more

The problem with Vilgefortz, among the ''Witcher'' fanbase, isn't his skin tone... but how weak Netflix made him. In the books, he broke Geralt's bones and almost killed him, but in the show he's being tossed around like a ragdoll and even lost a fight to someone like Cahir (what a joke...)

​​@@tatianaoliveira2191completely agree. I'd like to be optimistic and say that the general outrage for the character was born out of how unbelievably weak they made him (even if in future seasons they reveal how truly powerful he is) and not the race change. The man who obliterated Geralt and literally melted a higher vampire loses to Cahir?

@@tatianaoliveira2191 He was deliberately holding back so people would underestimate him, and doing just enough in order to not die. He even admits to holding back being the hardest part while fighting Geralt.

By "Loki treatment" you mean people would like him? I doubt that. Vilgefortz in the books is absolutely disgusting character and it really doesn't matter who would portrait him. You just can't like a person who impregnates teenagers and then does vivisections on them while they are still alive just to practice before you do this on the "real" target to get great magical power. As much as Netflix show is terribly inaccurate to the books, at least they didn't make him more sympathetic. Loki was evil but had his emotional reasons. Vilgefortz is just evil.

i was gonna mention interview with the vampire too! such a great show

*thank you!* I've been screaming this for months

wait... did they have Dandelion get amongst Radovid?

​@@K.C-2049Yeah Radovid the Madovid. The fundamentalist Church of the Eternal Fire guy.

Yeah, that has been an issue for ages. I've talked about it in other places, but media is already afraid of diversity which is why they will race bend rather than adapt something made by BIPOC/marginalized creators because they can trade on the IP.

True that. There is enough diversity in the original story as is. Strong female character? Bah, you got Yennefer, if you measure her book variant with a scale of “strong woman”, she is the scale. The show fails miserably here, as TV Yennefer lacks the main thing - dignity. You want more black people? C’mon, there is entire Zerrikania of them. Just bring them to the plot cohesively, just like it is done in the book with two Villetritenmert’s bodyguards

Being an American this is true they have kids "reading" before they understand HOW to read. They have us taking writing tests before we're taught to creaively write and think like a writer. That's why things feel "dumb" because it is

That's why I'm looking side eye at the Anime adaptions they're making. I liked One Piece and Yuyu; yet I can admit they skipped some cool moments. Yet Americanized adaptions are overall the worse now since they suck the fun out if it. Instead of leaning into the IP they run away from it.

@@sparingharbor2600 They’re not calling “everything” incel. They’re saying incels are the ones who jump to “Yennefer = bad” simply because she’s not a sexist fantasy stereotype. They were very direct and to the point and straightforward with who they were dissing and not dissing. You are arguing in very bad faith.

Maggie nailed it so perfectly I kept the whole thing in.

I had the same experience trying to just find some more Witcher content on KZfaq, and almost exclusively running into yucky, hateful people who only want to rant about why queers/women/people of color are ruining tv 😵‍💫

lol maybe I'll post it

I think the attention was to show that even if you can't have biological children you can be a parent since Yenefer is like a mother to Ciri

Oh protector of the small absolutely issues with how it handles its fictional Japanese society. So I don’t begrudge you there. I do think it can be improved in adaptation

Yet you're assuming they haven't a lot of these old school nerds are NERDS they had their heads in these books and want the best for the IPs they love.

Worse: that scene is not even in the books, the show quite literally invented it

@@hawkins347that’s really unfortunate. I recall there was another scene were they did that, too, aside from the hysterectomy scene. For a woman to be sexualized for experiencing extreme non consensual pain (not talking about safe bdsm) is truly horrible.

Women sexualize themselves all the time. And they like it. Only women that dont like it, are the fat and ugly ones because they are unable to look sexy and they put blame on pretty looking people.

It's just like whenever somebody complains about something being "too political," they just mean it has politics that they don't like.

games representations of these characters are more faithfull than the show version and they look better(armor,clothes etc),have better action are better written (just the bloody baron quest is better than anyrhing in the show) and you still hear about the games being great adaptions because the games are a better more high quality product overall

@@asura7915 oh cmon bloody baron quest literally ends with you either returning the woman to her abuser and it's a good thing (if Baron lives), or having him kill himself and you having to feel sorry for the asshole. That quest tried to be nuanced but it still made you spend most of your time with a literal villain of the story. befriend him, and feel bad for him instead of listening to his family whom he'd abused into the terrible situations they ended up in. 0/10 you can't even help his family without being best buddies with the Baron himself.

@@vera3147you really cant understand nuance, huh? But my point Stills stands even without this Quest the game is overall better writen than the show

@@asura7915 I see nuance when there is one, baron's quest is full of shit. Game has its writing highlights, baron's quests just not one of them. I never said I liked the show. It's even worse.

She's the best. We need the circle of magic rn!!

No woke media would ever portray a female-on-female r@pe scene involving an underaged child... They just wouldn't dare.

Yeah if i remember correctly in baptism of fire geralt defends abortion, pretty woke for a polish book series from the 90s

​@@itzhen7032Pretty woke for a Polish book even now

​@@itzhen7032Geralt, Dandelion, AND a vampire have a discussion on a woman's right to choose and they all say abortion is cool and good and bring up different reasons. It's hilarious and super on the nose and I highly recommend.

@@Bokatisha1234 Yeee i know, i read them many years ago so i have forgotten some of it, but i remembered it was surprisingly lefty politics wise

Researching it ruined mine first XD

Whenever you do an adaption, there are a couple rules to follow. 1. Read and respect the source material 2. If tou do change something, make it make sense for the adaption and make it good.

I kind of disagree. I find the third game to be extremely progressive. Going from that to reading the books and it's very jarring seeing how Ciri and Yennefer are treated. The books are definitely woke for the times but some of the treatment of the female characters definitely hasn't aged well.

hard disagree

@@undertakenheart the use of sexual violence as plot fodder and window dressing in that game was really ick to me. I was surprised to see the gay hunter sub plot, and some subtle mentions at fantasy racism (dwarves being discriminated against, for example) but the way that game treated women was not it.

​@@undertakenheart uh.... I'd like to disagree with your take. Games are a sequel and so they must've pushed both Yen and Ciri somewhere as people for their plotlines to not feel stale, and they kinda failed with even understanding them as people in the books, and understanding their character arcs, too. On example of Ciri: Ciri's been a person of interest for almost everyone around her, including her bio father and even her caring grandmother to an extent. Everyone around her had an agenda to mold her into something instead of letting her live her own life, except for maybe Gerry who never had any motif besides just making sure she was relatively safe. So her book plotline ending with her leaving the world that'd scarred her and where she'd never had a chance to exist without prosecution, and roaming somewhere else, where she'd (hopefully) learned how to be her own person, was rather optimistic. Her adoptive parents dying also needed to happen for that to work btw. Her arc in the books was about experiencing, then coping, and finally overcoming the trauma and finding yourself in the world, literally. In games, you as a player can either turn her into a witcher-ess if you treat her "right", forcing her to risk her life daily for a minimal pay, or you can turn her into an "empress" if you're a "bad" dad, by sending her to the dude who'd wanted to focefully inseminate her before, to rule a country that'd destroyed her own. Or you can let her disappear and never hear from her again. In the meantime, Ciri, now being in her early twenties, acts much more childish than she ever did in her early teens. Her past is never explored, her wishes are never explored, even her relationship with Geralt is very superficial. She's got no real journey or growth as a person, because it's a game and CDPR wanted Gerry's decisions to have influence on hers. In turn it makes Ciri lose all her agency, and belittle all the conclusions we could draw from her books' journey.

I think a lot of folks don’t grasp that the issues with the show in its writing and adaptation wouldn’t somehow be magically resolved even if everyone was a white dude, like bad writing and story structure is what it is, it’s not gonna suddenly be fixed just because the skin color or gender of a character changes

​@@CaptainPikeachu yep, even if you put book characters directly from readers' head onto a screen, with script that bad they'd still be reduced to a plain mockery of their original characteristics.

At this point I am not sure if either the showrunners or the wokness critics actually read the books. The more I hear of either camp, the more I feel they just read the Wikipedia plot summaries.

No geralt is not ciri she just has elder blood powers that makes her travel to different worlds

I mention that in here, but I think it would have been better to just either have her to some monster of the week stuff or just bring in stuff from future books earlier. Depowering was the worst call.

@@Princess_Weekes Personally I think it was just an unfortunate side effect of how different mediums operate. Sapkowski could afford to let Yen take a break in the text. A TV show cannot. It’s hard to say if anything they came up with would’ve been enough. A lesser of two evils situation here (ironically).

​@@Mrbluefire95I'd honestly have her go through her blindness and get involved with politics before dipping back out again. Set up some pre-war stuff before TOC. Give her some more mage related conflicts that helps set up the world.

It's a bit comforting that I'm not the only one who missed that she supposed to be POC, she is lighter than my mother.

Immortals was my favourite as a girl but Daine is a bit of a Mary Sue lbr. Protector of the Small is still my fav as a grown up type person. I would die to see a big tall strong Brienne of Tarth looking mf riding around on a horse absolutely *spanking* all the boys at jousting (and getting a cute bf too.)

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