I've been meaning to check it out! Thanks for the reminder

@@qmanchu It's a laugh riot, eagerly awaiting more/further translation. Hope you enjoy!

It's a stigma on hardcore gaming and all the nasty stereotypes that surround it that lies at the heart of the problem. Not just of fighting games but the broader more dedicated gaming spaces. A stigma that is perpetuated in large part by women themselves and the mainstream at large. They are not victims here, they are for the most part an active part of the problem. Framing perpetrators as victims is one of the most insidious things someone can do. The real victims are the people stigmatized for their interests, the people that don't want to be associated with that because of that stigma are hardly victims

Reminds me of how the original Fatal Fury came about. One of the original Street Fighter's own creators was poached by SNK, if I remember correctly. It was more or less for reasons like this that companies of the time period had to hide via aliases - this sort of poaching of talent wasn't all that uncommon in the industry back then. Admittedly, I only really know the Capcom example super vividly. I don't remember if other companies did this to the same extent...

Wow! That's really cool!

Yeah I mentioned that men got screwed over just the same, it was somewhat coincidence because the JP sound team just happened to be pretty much all women. The reason I mentioned that at all was because of how that led to them being somewhat replaced when the games came to console in the west as those composers were pretty much all men from what I saw. I'm really glad you enjoyed this one cuz I had a lot of fun making it! I like to make sure I learn something new before making a video to keep them fresh haha

Nope you're right! That was pretty much the reasoning

@Dobogio wanna point out 2 things. At no point in this video do I say anything about sexism. In fact, I actually say that Capcom was NOT targeting women and that this affected men as well. It's in the video. 2. It's important to acknowledge because Shimomura herself has talked about the difficulties of creating music for a space that's for boys predominantly. Technomasculinity is a part of her erasure from that side of video game history as a lot of credits in the west didn't ever go to her well after Capcom released the information. But technomasculinity isn't a sexism thing. It's just a bias implicit in the gaming space. This video is about celebrating the women in our community as well as making sure we hold ourselves accountable to preserve the community's history. But so many people have issues with celebrating women, which I think says a lot. Makes you think

@Dobogio that's the point though, for almost 2 decades, journalists struggled to find this information! And if you were in the business of archiving information for a company like Capcom USA for the localizations of these games, her name wasn't there! The only reason things changed was because there was a whole movement for Video Game music composers to get some more visibility and people went into the depths to find and correct information that was misrepresented. This might not seem like a big issue but it really can be for how history is told in the future. We got lucky to catch it that soon but who knows what would've happened if another decade went by. I also want to point out that this isn't a sexism thing. The reason I chose her for this story is because it's a fighting game channel AND she's responsible for so much of that culture even today. It's an opportunity to celebrate her and talk about that erasure (that was prevented)

Yeah the issue was that I use an AI program to fix my voice since I don't have a great mic but it wouldn't process the M In Shimomura no matter what I tried! It just "corrects" what it hears so there was nothing I could do

@@qmanchu didn't know that AI program to fix voice was a thing! But yeah, sorry to be picky, it just that because it is kind of a homage to her work, it is a shame that the name sounds mispronounced several times.

@mustang56912 nah that's totally fine I appreciate you calling it out! Was hoping mostly that nobody would notice lmao

It was fun getting to dive into this stuff. I really had no idea about almost any of it

Lmao I never thought of it that way but you've got a point

Haha the channel is still pretty new overall! Hoping to grow more lol

Had to slip him in there

If I'm not learning anything new in the process, I won't be making the video frankly. Thanks for watching this one, it's one of my favorites

To say that those moments aren't iconic though is just not true is all. It's not about him, and we need to remember Viscants pop off there. I don't think there will ever be anything better

@@qmanchu I think it's just off-putting to people potentially interested in fighting games and the fgc, it certainly was for me. Took me years to pick up another fg because I felt it was such a hostile community, which turned out was not true at all.

@GunGun-cf3ss maybe but for many, these moments are the foundation the opposite. Moments like that are what personally got me into the scene lol Also it's not like I used his name so if someone is seeing him for the first time, they're not gonna know who he is

@@qmanchu that's fair, I do not understand it, but whatever. You keep doing what you're doing!

1. I know but I've explained before, I don't have a mic so I use an AI enhancer to level my voice. Unfortunately it doesn't do well with Japanese names and I couldn't get it to enhance the M without replacing it. And 2, I literally say it wasn't targeted towards the women and that it affected men. There was no mention of it being a sexist anything. It's just how it worked out which then ended up leading to issues when it was Men in the west who were the ones taking a lot of credit. That's literally just what happened

Yeah that's why I mention that it happened to men too. I don't think they targeted these women at all. The problem just arises when their names were actually replaced by those of men in the West until years afterwards is all. It's not a sexist phenomenon but it did lead to the erasure of a lot of the most influential women for a time from history. That's all really. Shimomura herself also talks about wanting to embody masculine undertones for certain songs which is very interesting in and of itself

Lol what? It's great that they targeted a demographic, that's entirely not the point. The point is literally that she wasn't credited until years afterwards and her name in the west was replaced by that of men, that's all. And even that was just a combination of unfortunate circumstances, nobody really did it on purpose.

You people are astonishing

She change her pronouns or sumn?

@@qmanchuto me i find it a little insulting that this vid is for women but use a trans in the clip the same way most women find it insulting to see woman athletes lose to men just because they think they are woman

cope and seethe

Looked her up and the first result on google is an article of her being permabanned from CPT events for sexual assault allegations.... jeez

Hey, I agree that it's a very serious name for what it actually is but from an academic stand point, you've gotta name it something

No, I disagree. No name needs to be given because it's not a thing. It's literally ingrained in that country's culture to be modest about one's contributions and not take credit. Not surprising that carries over into influencing company policies as well. And it affected significantly more men than women as well. None of those women are victims. None of those men are victims. They knew what they were signing up for and they got paid for it. If they wanted credit they could have went solo. Techno masculinity is just another one way dog whistle for shaming the accomplishments of a majority men. There's nothing academic about that term.

Liberal nonsense made up to sound/feel superior. "Gotta name it something"😂

@Dobogio read the articles listed in the description please. The academic papers really do help shine a light on how much history we almost lost