Indeed, still though, it does highlight that the gap between the GCN and Wii was enough for games on the Wii to have benefits over being on the GCN.

@@CornishCreamtea07 Well, duh. A 50% boost is huge before you reach the point of diminishing returns.

@Tilde White The wii uses the same gpu and cpu as the gamecube, but with a 50% increase in clock speed.

@Tilde White In that regard, having a developer's eye helps. Also, comparing games in the same franchise.

Haha, my thoughts exactly when I heard that

What was your first language, if you don't mind my asking?

Oh how I can relate. I've never played Metroid, but not understanding English as a child made it virtually impossible to understand stories of video games. I had to replay things as simple as Devil May Cry to understand what was going on. Metal Gear Solid was out of the question until much later on. I felt your struggle...

As a non native speaker i can say that "figuring out things by myself" played a big part on some of my biggest childhood videogame memories, perhaps is to this day why i like metroidvanias as much as i do, they give you few words of advice and send you off to figure out worlds by yourself and i find that to hit the nostalgia spot hard for the days i was just incapable of understanding anything at all.

@@kaymarx9677 Dutch. So there was no translation. Nowadays Nintendo games do have it though.

As a non native english speaker I think the greatest strugle of my childhood was getting past Rock Tunnel in the absolute darkness in Pokémon Blue.

Metroid Prime 3 was one of the first 3 video games I every played, along with Halo 3 and The Legend of Spyro. Rubdas reminded me a lot of the Arbiter, and it was a whole lot of fun. My dad had a GameFAQs walkthrough up for us. Good times honestly

Yeah, even at the time I didn't mind that they were clearly trying to make Metroid a bit more 'sexy' and mainstream, because I liked what they did with MP3 for the most part. Sure, it had some annoying bits, but none of the MP games were truly perfect. Overall, I enjoyed how they tried to expand the gameplay while still staying mostly true to its roots.

Someone should remake prime 3 for oculus

Am I seriously the only one who thought Prime 3's controls were clunky and annoying, wishing that they could just use a normal controller instead?

@@k64speedYeah, pretty much.

@@k64speed I did. I hated having to constantly make sure I was holding my arm out in the exact right spot for the Wii to pick up lest. I like to sit and relax while I play.

@@k64speed I personally loved the controls and actually had the sensitivity all the way up because having to move the cursor all the way to the edge was annoying at first but that one change fixed it for me and I have yet to play a game with better motion controls besides maybe in VR.

Is that what it was? Honestly I wasn't following it very well when I was playing it either. It just didn't stick me very well.

@@marscaleb Leviathans also struck Tallon IV and Aether. Just like Bryyo, Elysian, and the Pirate Homeworld had Guardians for their Leviathan Seeds (Mogmenar, Helios, and Omega Ridley), Tallon IV's Leviathan Seed Guardian was Metroid Prime and Aether's Guardian was Emperor Ing.

MAkes you question the entire Video if he overlooked something as simple as that....I mean even as a Child that didn't understand english back in the day this was pretty obvious.

@@TurKlack You're German, aren't you?

@@will_of_europa hey, at least I'm not an obnoxious shithead who feels the need to shit on other people's opinions over the internet! 👉👉

I like Sanctuary fortress better.

i agree, its name is Elysia though

Also as far back as Metroid Fusion the Ship was used as a set piece in the game during more than just start and finish. The space station loses power and the ship is your only place to save/ get your next objective. It's not super involved, but I enjoyed that moment when I first played fusion.

came here to say this

You see inside the gunship in Hunters, it's just that it's not 3 dimensional.

@@josephhawkins7974 Your right i forgot about the moment you lose power in fusion

Came here to say this :D

Icarosz Ikr.

So much

Oh man yes please!

Icarosz i m waiting for dishonored....

Just stop this shit.. every fricking video someone shout out Hollow knight.. My god its not even that great. -especially the half point of the game.. It does nothing but waste players time. In the later the game it will turn out like Dark soul where you can kill three bosses in any order you want. Its really not that great. Dark soul and Super metroid did it much better.

A shame the 'main' series (the 2D games) completely ignore all of the Prime series lore and world-building, to the point that there are still debates as to whether the Prime games are even 'canon' or not. It's a known fact that Yoshio Sakamoto (the main guy behind 2D Metroid) wants nothing to do with the Prime games and has explicitly stated he has no intention of incorporating them into his true vision for the series (plus he's never played them). Though I guess to his credit, he never flat-out stated that they are non-canon, and he did allow Mercury Steam to put Meta-Ridley into Samus Returns (though it's unlikely Sakamoto even knows about Meta-Ridley).

Maybe he should've enabled hints ;)

It's almost like people who have an undisguised contempt for storytelling in games don't pay attention when the game tries to tell them a story. *coughcough* _Arin Hanson_ *cough*

@@cinnamonnoir2487 *increases coughing volume*

That would be one hell of an explosion to shower the whole galaxy in shrapnel.

And considering how fast said shrapnel would need to be moving, there likely wouldn't be planets left after the impacts.

darkIkarus totally agree in every way.

I agree with all this.

Hey that's how I feel about Dark Souls. I think they're all great and bad for their own reasons

This is why we’re now friends.

Well in order for that to happen, they first need to do the Fusion Remake which was confirmed 2-3 years ago.

Yep, Hollow Knight surely learned from the metroid prime trilogy's fetchquest at the end and twisted it a bit further so if players decide on their own to get everything, they will be rewarded big time with a totally new ending and with a new boss fight at the end. That totally works! It's great when franchises learn from one another and improve on the same genre to move it forwards.

Making them optional for some "true ending" would've been fantastic, and in-line with saving the animals in Super Metroid.

Reward for exploration is keys, and if you get them, you get a true ending? Dude, you just described missile tanks, energy tanks, ship missile expansion, power bomb expansion, etc.

The king soul is divided in two only, and one of these items requires to beat a new boss, the other is in a full new area. The optionnal part is definitively not the only thing better here.

@@gamer_boi2470 The true ending in question is a 10 seconds added cutscene, and getting every item is not especially interesting.

"Only Metroid on the Wii" I love how we've all agreed that Other M doesn't exist

@@papersonic9941 "Other" what now? In all seriousness, I actually feel a little dumb that I completely forgot that Other M existed on the Wii.

👏👏👏

Paul Andreotti it’s not your fault. I also forget that it exists until I see it in my stash of Wii games I’ve never finished.

What is this Other M? Some kind of TV game show?

The foreshadowing was pretty well done with that.

I see youre a man of culture as well

It's definitely something that needs to be brought up more often. You end up finding out that apparently Space Pirates use metroids as both pets and target practice lol.

Mine as well. Definitely made the environments feel a tad less abandoned and more immersive.

@@jhonj5702 Well, they try to

prime 1 was my first one. loved the atmosphere of it.

How unsurprising to see your name in this comments section!

Definitely play Zero Mission, AM2R, Super Metroid, Prime 1,2, and 3, and Metroid Fusion. They're all very different from one another but all great games that have aged incredibly well.

Super Metroid is one of the greatest video games of all time.

The 2D ones are. I wish I hadn't played Prime first, as it put me off the 2D games for over a decade. Turns out, it's just Prime that gargles gonads, not the entire franchise.

That doesn't fix most of the issues mentioned. Like the random proggresion that makes no sense. I.e you got screw attack and can now explore vahalla but not because it was blocked by something recquiring the screw attack but just because the game decides you can. Thats just bad game design

@@conorcasey4233 You mentioned exactly one issue, and I don't even know where you're coming from on that. I've heard that you can _skip_ a section using the screw attack on Valhalla, but progression there is based on energy cells, not whether or not you have the screw attack. Progression in Prime 3 is no more random or senseless than progression was in Prime 2. You're going to have to be more clear and give me some actual examples if you expect to convince me this game was badly designed.

@@cinnamonnoir2487 8:14

@@conorcasey4233 Okay, I see what you're talking about. I had forgotten about that point in the game, because I remember going to the Valhalla pretty early, but maybe I didn't realize how early you get the screw attack. Let me go into this a little more. The discovery of the wrecked Valhalla by the Federation after Samus finds the screw attack is a plot development. It's not that the Valhalla was around and was arbitrarily locked off; from the game's perspective, no one _knew_ the Valhalla's significance until it was found. The same is true for the "trapped soldier" on the Pirate Homeworld. These were put in to add a little drama to the game and make it more exciting. This isn't "random" progression, it's just plot-based rather than mechanic-based. That's a necessary corollary of setting the game on multiple planets, since moving from one to another would have to be dictated by external events rather than player progression; it's not like you can walk from Bryyo to Elysia. I _appreciated_ the fact that this game chose to do something different, and the multiple planets is part of that. By the way, this isn't the first time in the series that progression has been gated off by non-mechanical, plot-based obstacles. Prime 2 was full of those hologram gates blocking off later levels that can only be opened once you've visited the shrines in earlier levels and listened to the Luminoth spiel. The game gating these areas off isn't any less arbitrary from the standpoint of design. It's meant to make the game feel more dramatic and have you visit levels in an order more or less anticipated by the designers. I've said before that Corruption was stuck in an awkward place as the final game in a trilogy because the other games had virtually no plot to speak of. That's a legitimate problem, Retro found a novel way to handle it, and I'm annoyed that you and many other people don't give them credit for that. If Corruption had been just another Metroid game, the story would have had nowhere to go. Mark needs to take a step back and ask himself if he really wants this series to always stay exactly the same, or if it's beneficial for it to have occasional departures like this. My opinion, now as before, is that it _needs_ that variety.

I enjoyed this game to very much. Pointing out a tiny point i think is an example of bad game design is not grounds to assume i dislike a game I did enjoy. There is nothing wrong with plot based proggresion. The problem is communication because the rest of metroid is mechanical progression players can get confused when they aren't progressing in the way they are used to. Corruptions real flaw was not adjusting the systems to compensate for their new direction. I think a good idea would be to use cutscenes for subtle hints. I.e "There seems to be a mystery but we are working on it. Keep exploring this thing and we will get back to you." Now the player is aware that they might progress on plot. Please don't strawman me into claiming I don't appreciate a studios hardworl just because they didn't create an immaculate conception of a video game.

Perfectly put, especially in this generation where players might feel the urge to have answers right away on what to do or where to go, or the players might not stay as interested or engaged to find the solution, or else they'll look for answers online which defeats the purpose altogether.

I liked how it felt like stuff was goign on in the world around me. Things I didn't actually WATCH happen, like the universe kept existing even when I wasn't looking at it. after 2 games where I felt terrifyingly alone, it was a nice change that samus has friends now, and these intelligent computers that integrate perfectly into the story. .. then watch as they all get horribly corrupted and you see samus can't have nice things.

@@KairuHakubi Such is the life of the bounty hunter.

I completely agree!

Right on the dot. Some of the best things about sequel games is how they cause the story to evolve. Can you imagine if the assassins creed series stayed with the same mechanics as #1 and we never got brotherhood or revelations because it “wasn’t the same formula”? Gosh I’m sad some people can’t appreciate growth because change = bad.

This is why I don't like these Boss Keys videos. I was already disappointed at the Zelda dungeon videos and was hoping the ones on Metroid would fare better, but I seem to have expected too much

@@gustavopaz5453 i personally hate how he uses linearity as a flaw.

@Raed 928 yet he still insists on complaining about every single time.

Bro i have faith it's gonna be fantastic.

Please no scavenger hunts.

Video Game Animation Study Quick tweet them the videos!

@@johnmarstall in a series that defines exploration? MADNESS

@@coolguy02536 Why would one imply the other? There's are no scavenger hunts in any 2D Metroid. (A scavenger hunt meaning: go get all these items that confer no benefit other than allowing the game to advance.) It's something Retro loves to do, for some reason.

People like to think Samus is some kind of antisocial badass who can't work with others.

Deep down, Kh fans know that "Kh the story so far" released on ps4 is only a big prologue for kh3

laughs in trails in the sky

I didn't despise Fi, so I don't think I'll mind Aurora

@@Attaxalotl with Fi she straight up stopped link in his tracks to talk, with Aurora it's just a little text box that pops up on the bottom of your screen that you can ignore

Tanamar M Choo! Choo! (Rocket)

Yeah I can't wait! Blue lake in the background at the end of video pretty much confirms it.

SHAW!

DOMA! Doma doma doma!

I thought we use stag?

Actually, the price is "however much you shoot". As long as you don't enter corrupt hypermode, you can exit it and get your unspent energy back.

@@zerarch77 Fair point, you can totally shoot one hyper missile and leave. My personal experience means nothing, but I usually just balls to the wall time out the corruption for max value since you can't take damage like that.

Exactly. and EVEN with how many tanks it gives you, i was still too chicken to use it much.

This game is ALL about corruption. It's even in the title! Phazon is a power trip! And using it puts you in even greater risk of losing your mind, your sanity, your will to Dark Samus. Energy Tanks are your life meter... meaning Phazon starts to become more and more your life. And then the last sequence of the game, you realize what the price of power means, as it's all that energy that almost kills Samus...

@@KairuHakubi I had the same problem up until i started the games Hypermode difficulty. Enemies are far more aggresive about going Hypermode themselves and nigh impossible to kill in Hypermode, which turns your own Hypermode into a necesity and one you need to learn well. Sometimes it is best to pop in briefly and blast an enemy before exiting for minimal self damage, but other times it was better to skirt the edge of corruption and use the extra time and energy to tackle bigger threats. It is honestly one of the most thrilling hard modes I have played, because, at least for me, it changed how I apporached the entire experience. Sacrificing health to Hypermode was no longer a choice, it was a necesity and by extension correct management of Hypermode became an important skill.

What about the examples he gives, where doing an unrelated activity prompts a textbox telling you where to go next? That's pretty much the definition of handholding, at least in a Metroid game.

@@FungusTrooper You get told where to go, but how to get there is another story. Plus "go to Bryyo" is a bit more general than any one location. But let's use one specific example. The "GF troop" that randomly pops up on them pirate homeworld leads immediately to a boss. After that boss, you get an item that lets you explore most of the planet and find the nova beam. At worst that is a temporary handhold for the sake of a tense battle that gives you the ability to explore. If it's still a problem, think of it this way. Why doesn't U-Mos open all parts of the game for you immediately? Why can you only go to Agon at the start? I wouldn't bother worrying about this too much.

birdeynamnam we’re friends now, don’t worry, I decided for you.

I'm the exact type of gamer for most games I play lol. Not too critical, and you'll enjoy most of life. 😌💕

if we ever get it

I like the Halo like Nature. It could have Halo moments and Metroid moments

I mean Metroid is and always has been a AAA title. Technically, that means metroidvania indie games _are_ trying to be like a AAA game.

FRED THERED everything trying to be like Halo? Not so sure you realize what you are saying

@@LuisXRivas in the 2000s halo was the big game that every shooter took stuff from. But just about every shooter did that stuff worse than halo.

Troy Prater but mark's point wasn't that were bad because they are not "metroid" enough, it's because it doesn't fit the genre. There is a difference between trying new things, which is usually pretty good, and adding stuff that shouldn't be there or is unnecessary. As he said, metroid is not about the shooting mechanics and it never has been, and while adding some extra shooting is fine and adds up to the experience, there is a fine line that defines when this is a cool add up and when it is just senseless mechanics that break away from what the game is, mechanics that maybe didn't have a purpose to be there other than "it's cool". And from what I got, he also said that the issue is that some of these new features weren't really implemented well enough, so that's why it may be a weaker game in the series

Finally someone agrees with me about prime 2

This was the first Metroid game I played and while in terms of plot, it's not a great place to jump in, it is a perfect starting point mechanically. Metroid Prime 1 was overwhelming for me enough even having played 3. If I had started with 1, I'd likely have never bothered with the series because being thrown into the deep end isn't something I particularly like. Yet because Prime 3 helped ease me into things, I've played and completed every single Metroid game besides the very original two and Federation force. Though I have completed the remakes of the first two. And for me Prime 2 is far and away the weakest in the Prime series...honestly possibly the weakest Metroid game period. Other M was silly but Prime 2 was filled with stupid ideas like unbalanced bosses that were a 30min trek from the nearest save point, extremely visually similar worlds, an ammo system, and large chunks of time hiding in light bubbles. Prime 1 just barely beats out Prime 3 for me. 2 is miles behind in the dirt.

He likes prime 2 more becouse he doesn't like backtracking done right, he doesn't like to think about exploration. He prefers to have a simple sector maze instead of a deeply designed hidden path with interconnected loops. I personally hate it, on top of the milion hp enemies that made no sense. Prime 1 beats prime 3 only by a small bit becouse of how well designed the exploration was, but prime 3 combat is just amazing. And they are all definetly better than shooting and bombing random walls to find items and paths in 2d games.

Agree. Prime 3 is my favorite in the franchise to date. I think the games needed some streamlining after Echoes. Other M went way too far in that regard, but Corruption struck a nice balance, I felt. I also think it had to be more bombastic as the final act of a trilogy.

100% agree. Elysia is beautifully constructed and designed. A stand out in the meteoid universe.

I agree as well, I would love to visit Elysia in a future Metroid (Prime) game. The many more pods on the horizon suggested to me that it is a much bigger civilization than we explored in Metroid Prime 3. Floating steam punk world...

It really helped flesh out the Metroid Universe and Samus. I'm glad they tried to do something a little different

I would absolutely love that! Best MetroidVania that few have heard of.

So how did the project go, David?

@@Orange_Swirl It went nowhere, unfortunately...

He wasn't _technically_ wrong. You see, Federation Force and Hunters both fall into a third category that I like to call "Not Actually Metroid Games", along with Metroid Prime Pinball and the Morph Ball rolling microgame from Wario Ware: Smooth Moves.

@@cinnamonnoir2487 Hunters, Pinball, AM2R, and even Other M can all be considered Metroid games. FF objectively cannot. It's merely obligated to be on the wiki.

@@coolguy02536 You lost me at Pinball.

@@cinnamonnoir2487 Hard to believe it still towers over FF, I know...

The unfortunate confusion is that the series is titled "The World Design of..." but the content is more akin to "The Ludonarrative Design of...". Fusion's areas are quite interconnected and labyrinthine, but all anybody seems to see is the big marker on the map saying "go here"... which isn't even always there! It's unfair to the title.

I love Metroid Fusion, and it has many things going for it, but this series is about world design, and that is not Fusion's interesting points at all. Fusion is a lot more about story and atmosphere. The exploration aspect does come into play where the linearity breaks down (at least a little) as you regain your agency alongside your powers. It's certainly 100 times better executed than Other M.

Szabu ironically, I believe that fusion’s atmosphere heavily benefits from its world. Each and every location reveals more and more unsettling truths hidden on the station, even if you aren’t actively thinking of them. The primary obvious one is Sector 1’s SR388 simulation, but the locations throughout all contribute to the atmosphere by working with the story to raise tension. Sector 6’s darkness wouldn’t have half the fear factor if the Sector 5 X didn’t invade, and Sector 5’s cold climate, something not seen on SR388, leading to the adaptive X changing with the cold is something fascinating and terrifying. That this still unknown threat could spontaneously adapt to vastly different environments, especially one that is still extremely hostile to you even after you acquire the varia suit, is something that just story alone couldn’t supply. Hell, the security bot is one of the best shows of world building working towards the atmosphere. Up to this point, we’ve only seen X infect solely living creatures. Suddenly, a security goes rogue due to X infection? And it’s revealed to actually be a biomechanical being? Very interesting, and implicative of an attempt by either BSL or the Galactic Federation to replicate, atleast in part, mother brain. TLDR; Fusion actually has really solid world building, especially considering how small it’s physical scale is compared to other metroid games

Looking forward to it bro

You sir, have good taste!

Weird, yeah, especially for how that game pre-figured the metroid prime 3 structure, of having all these tightly paced and separate mini-mazes, strung together with constrained and clear objectives.

@@michelottens6083 It seems Metroid fusion is too linear for boss key lol.

@@titanfall222jorge6 Definitely no less linear than the Wind Waker Zelda. And there's at least some exploration to do within each section of the game. I agree it'd require a shift from Mark Brown's model of "normal" for this series (Link's Awakening style, Super Metroid style large scale lock-and-key mazes). But he's already innovated models to deal with the linear zelda's, with hermetic puzzlebox style dungeons, with metroid's huge one-dungeon game... So it'd be that same kind of challenge, something to develop his analytic system with. For that matter, I'd say there's lots to analyse in Metroid Prime Hunters as well. Then again, mister Brown slightly botched or phoned in his look at the Breath of the Wild Zelda and his analysis of Prime 3, so it's all fine I guess anyway. Leaves work for up-and-coming games studies folks.

Yeah, I was hoping he would cover Metroid Fusion as well :/ Maybe it's a bit too linear? It doesn't have much in terms of sequence breaking or open-endedness.

Yeah this game was one example where trying some new stuff with an established franchise worked perfectly (metroid prime 1 being another example), and halo-type circlestrafe-based dance-like shooters (rather than these shooting galleries where you can just stand still or have to hide in cover all the time) are rare enough, so I loved seeing that kind of stuff in this game.

In this context “Just play Halo” is merely a figure of speech, which means if you want a normal linear, traditional shooter, there are other games, but metroid prime is its own thing and fills a space that nothing else quite does. And yes there are definitely traditional fps games on Wii, quite a few actually: - The Conduit 1 & 2 - At least 6 Call of Duty games - At least 3 Medal of Honor games - Far Cry: Vengeance - 2 Red Steel games (although the 1st aint that great) - A GoldenEye remake (with a digital copy of the original also available) - At least 2 Brothers in Arms games - Sniper Elite And a few more. So yeah, more than enough traditional fps games on wii, no reason to "corrupt" (sorry just had to) Metroid Prime.

@@tiaangerber4248 Hey, Red Steel 2 was great!

@@aidennoir597 Ok, yeah to be fair it was a huge improvement over the first, even if the controls werent always perfectly on point, I think the 1st just left such a bad taste in my mouth. I'll correct my comment ;)

@@tiaangerber4248 Funny how you're saying developers shouodn't "corrupt" the prime series when Metroid Prime in itself was a "corruption" of Metroid

didn't play a lot of wii games then I take it

Sounds like a Michael Rosen ytp

It kinda does. No idea how they made Prime 3 so beautiful and detailed(well most of it anyway-glares at Norion) on the wii.

I'm still hoping for the Boss key's season 1 Wrap-up.

You mean the castlevania ones??

@@elvisdiaz2349 No, the zelda ones. We should've gotten a wrap up about general zelda Dungeon design. Season 2 Is Metroidvanias (Metroid + Castlevania + Modern Metroidvanias)

@@gustavowadaslopes2479 It would be awesome if they did not just focus on just structure design... What are inside of these dungeons are also important part of the design....I felt like dark soul had great progress structure design but some areas where itself badly designed.

@@gustavowadaslopes2479 You get a very, very reduced version of this at the end of the BOTW video, 17:05: "So, I guess that's it boys and girls. 16 games and 130 dungeons later and Boss Keys is finally finished. If you were wondering, that was 30 temples, 19 palaces, 9 levels, 8 towers, and 7 castles. Plus a bunch of turtles,, crypts, mines, bellies, sanctuaries, divine beasts, trees, woods, and plenty of other things. We've seen dungeons that are a straight-forward gauntlet of combat and puzzles, those that are a complex maze of keys and locks, and a special handful of massive moving puzzle box dungeons. There have been terrific bosses, clever puzzles, memorable moments, and Fi. Ahem. As for Boss Keys itself, well, this has been a weird, interesting and largely enjoyable project. It's far from perfect and I would start it all from scratch if I could, but ultimately I think I learned a lot about the construction of non-linear, interconnected level design." He does note in that same wrap-up though that he will work on a "conclusions" video. Someday? Maybe season 5 will be wrap-ups of the previous 4 seasons.

I mean... yes, but that's not the point.

I liked it minus the talking

@@wrosebrock the setting and ambiance was really great in that game. Everything else tho, pee pee poo poo

evidently he doesn't think it's enough of a metroid game to actually cover it lol

You mean the opposite of a metroid game

As far as the objective gameplay, it is absolutely a Metroid game. As far as presentation and storytelling, it is a dumpster fire.

That's all this series is.

Well said. Fusion is very good in its own regards; it tried to evolve over Metroid 2 aka handheld games which must work within their limitations. The 'handholding' in metroid fusion feels right.

Indeed, but the game just doesn't let you discover what to do next. Is like the Skyward Sword of the Metroid series I'm afraid. Still, I enjoyed that game. I just want Nintendo to stop making more and more accessible their Metroid games, they are meant to be a challenge, not a walking simulator.

​@@ossdemura You are only told of your vague objective, and need to figure out what to do and how to get there and back on your own within constantly changing circunstances. plenty of figuring thigns out on your own. Also, I don't think it's an issue of accessibility but of the newer devs not knowing what to do with the series. the teams that made metriod 1-4 and Prime 1 are no longer around.

RoastedJustice who would want to fight the truth? Haha!

@@aerowalker3 Ah, another Man of Culture I see

Very good. It is the best game of all time.

Tbh I think Echoes is the only Metroid game close to the quality of Hollow Knight, and that's because it's more of an extremely good Zelda game than a metroidvania.

Why? I liked Other M as a kid. Sure, the story wasn't that good, but I really enjoyed the gameplay!

I’m pretty sure he’s doing hollow knight, it was in the background at the end of the video

saaammmeee

but 3 was the best one by far...

You can't be the _only_ one, because Toby Fox friggin' loves that shiz.

@@cinnamonnoir2487 Ha well that's cool. But yeah when done well I find them fun. Zelda games in general tend to do this well (Especially coming to old areas but all the enemies are stronger)