Predominantly most people use it as a DAC I agree but I already covered that review. I thought this would be an interest in take on it for somebody who wants a tiny system and I think it’s still exceptional. Nothing matches it for its size and performance. M scaler Del take care up to the next level, and yes you can pick these up for about 5000 years now 6000 if you shop around which is an exceptional price Deeply appreciate the support as always

​@@ConvinceMeAudio, 5,000 years to find a used Dave? That's quite a waiting period! 😮

@@TheWorldTeacher Lmfaooo did Apple screw up US$5000 best laugh of theday

I would love to, I’ve only heard it once at a show. It’s the logistics of getting it in that might be an issue but I would not turn one down.

Yes, my coordinator just fixed the links again now, for some reason it did not save I thought we had fixed that low volume issue I’ll talk to my editer If you can let me know the timestamp

@@ConvinceMeAudio Everything after 6minutes. Seems it wasn't checked properly

Thank you for the support genuinely appreciate it 🐅❤️🐅

@@ConvinceMeAudio My pleasure!

I think with bliss you can go either way with the strength lane with Dave electronic and real music for May It just depends on what little sacrifice I wanted to make between either, and most likely susvara as a rule

It was actually quite a nice synergy, TBF Dave may WaveDream addition and signature lampizator I have put all of these on the unit to excellent effect

@@tigerfish66 us I have seen it go as low as $5500, UK, about £5500

@@Isthare dave is a better DAC and more transparent and a better performer but if you ever decide to put hard to drive Headphones on it, it will shit itself, I absolutely love the little cayin stack it’s on my desk right now being reviewed or ferrum stock which is being reviewed altogether now too, the best thing you’re gonna buy on the 8K I think, which is far more versatile. I would go for this one personally but I’ll be honest with you all three you can’t go wrong they’re all exceptional, but you will never get the portability and small factor of Dave. It’s insane very good for DCA stealth, ZMF, but struggles with SUS higher than 60 5DB.

@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks a lot for such fast reply, 5 tigers for you! By "the best thing you’re gonna buy on the 8K I think, which is far more versatile" you mean full ferrum + cayin HA2A, or just Dave? sorry for missreading this part, but feeling much more confident knowing you like all three options

@@Isthare my bad, apologies. I was on the go while I was responding. Ferrum stack is the best thing you’re going to grab under 8K, it’s very versatile, I’m currently reviewing the whole system as a whole now and it seems to work perfectly with SUS, LCD5, Spirit, Torino VAL, not to mention SUS unveiled, this is a good place to stop if you are planning for lots of headphones and very different headphones

@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks a lot really, already had Ferrum as main and Convincemeaudio convinced me again :D I can try Ferrum but Caldera would be a blind buy based on so many love reviews and comments, so really really appreciate your opinion. Thx again and waiting for your next videos!

I was going to last July, but sadly it didn’t work out, but hopefully some point

Clever Chord , master of disguise , so when thieves break in they don't steal it of course !

@@railwaystationmaster Unless they're a vacuum sealer theif

No Dave doesn’t

@@ConvinceMeAudio Thank you. I thought Dave's DSD mode was native when not used with the Mscaler. Best to you again.

lol That’s intriguing in regards to the quad BNC I wasn’t actually aware of that. Cheers for the info. Looking forward to the upgraded M scaler it’s been delayed for nearly 2 years now.

@@ConvinceMeAudio The current M Scaler is actually so good to me I wasn't missing anything. But I'd take a better one😆. Especially the improved (Mojo2) eq will be nice to have.

Hmmm I think you’re asking exclusively DAC versus DAC Original review, I think answers this question quite well, plus the upcoming May kte review, but I will put a few points below Formal viscerally impactful then may a better experience for electronic music predominantly, richer textures and tactility on May but the transient response and separation and incisiveness of Dave is a perfect companion to me because it’s the other end of the spectrum Sadly, they’re so different from each other. They’re perfect companions rather than choosing one over the other.

@@ConvinceMeAudio appreciate the quick response and look forward to the May Review 🙌🏼

It might be useful to people if you could list a few items that could cover all the grounds that this unit does, we’re not talking about a DAC we’re talking about an AO

I've demoed all of them with their built in amps. Overall experience is head and shoulders above with the Dave. Both amps are very good and plenty capable and comparable. The DAC of the Dave is in another league above the TT2.

Tt2 plus M scaler barely stands up to Dave by itself, there’s something intrinsically transparent about the Dave amplifier. It’s insane. It’s like connecting to the output stage of the DAC.

@@ConvinceMeAudio 100% agree. The Dave is playing on a completely different level to the TT2.

Errr if you subscribe to ASR and don’t care much about listening to music sure 🤣

@@ConvinceMeAudio nope I have an MSC in electronics,theres better for much much less,the Holo May for example.For 5000 you could get a great dac ,headphone amp and a set of Dan Clark E3 headphones and still have 5k left over..

@@edwardbit8225 now you are opening up an interesting conversation.. the DAC is not the purpose of this review, we already did this two years ago against the May and I will be doing a shootout between May and Wandla.. may is not a good DAC even with HQ player up sampling for electronic music but it’s the counterpart to Dave for real music and real instruments. I regularly ran both units simultaneously on bliss and HM1.. they balance each other out perfectly, but to get back to my main point the point of this review was for a stand alone unit all by itself for Headphones speakers pre-DAC Moterbility size lack of heat for those people who just want one tiny thing.. Not everybody wants a 100 kg desk like we have right now with WaveDream signature net, AIC monoblock blah blah blah Rather than commenting on the title, I highly recommend watching the actual video. You might learn a few things that might explain some stuff. But I do appreciate the comments helps the algorithm keeps the chat moving FYI £10,400 is not something that you should be paying for this. You can pick one up used for about five.

@@ConvinceMeAudio the chord Dave has been shown to have engineering deficencies compared to other Dacs, in terms of Noise,dynamic range and THD,as much as 10db,thats a considerable difference in performance,its just not price competitive, if it were £2k then we are having a different conversation.Its way past its sell date,its no way SOTA.The world has moved on as has technology.

@@edwardbit8225 Nobody cares about graphs at that level mate. Only about how it sounds.

It’s a bit of an odd duck I don’t mind it and the size is incredible

I think its pretty gorgeous design wise

😃 don’t normally answer these ridiculous statements, but I’m going to make an exception for you here.. Talk to me: when you put them side-by-side using the same set of drivers and amplification and exclusively tested the DAC, what was your experience? Write me a few paragraphs in regards to the reconstruction of Hans Zimmer pirates of the Caribbean live.. Give me a full analysis of the reproduction of: the atmosphere, instruments resolution detail retrieval scope size Tamber I detest shitting on other peoples equipment, because that’s a degenerate cross argument we are all here for the music, The equipment does not matter it’s the journey of listening what matters.. just don’t bring up signal to noise ratio at 1 kHz because neither you or I are a machine we are humans and we are tuned to music we’ve been doing it for 30,000 years I eagerly, await your full in-depth analysis and response On the sidenote, I actually do need to bring schiit equipment for review, I don’t think I’ve covered anything yet apart from the original jot and I did not do a video

@@ConvinceMeAudio I was being sarcastic. My way of coping with not being able to afford a better DAC right now. If I knew you were going to take such a ridiculous statement seriously and write such a long response I would have never posted that. Apologizies.

@@ConvinceMeAudio Great video though.

@@johnpajestka5022 that’s the problem, I don’t think my statement was ridiculous. I was genuinely being honest and asking a question, put some weird emoji next to it LOL it’s very difficult to get jokes in text. And genuinely in my defence, I’ve been dealing with these comments for the last two days in regards to this review and trust me when I tell you 90% of them, I’ll be in very very dead serious just do a little scrolling and you will see what I mean

@@johnpajestka5022 and a small sidenote don’t be downhearted, we all started at the beginning when I moved away from speakers in 2016 I started with HD650 and the Hopoe ha6a se so I wouldn’t even worry about it because this is the time when you should be discovering new music the equipment is just African conduit nothing else

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