The world's first 9-speed automatic transmission (9HP) for passenger cars by ZF

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ZF Group

ZF Group

11 жыл бұрын

• The world's first 9-speed automatic transmission (9HP) for passenger cars with front-transverse drive is one of the technical highlights of ZF. The potential reduction in fuel consumption and, in turn, CO2 emissions is one of the outstanding characteristics of the ZF automatic transmission: Fuel consumption is up to 16 percent lower when driving at a constant speed of 120 km/h than with today's commonplace 6-speed automatic transmissions with front-transverse installation.

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@benderman55
@benderman55 2 жыл бұрын
My wife has a 16 trailhawk and I can honestly say its the nicest driving transmission I have ever uses, very quick shifts, responsive, no over shifting or hunting for gears, no delays or hard shifts. We tow a single axle trailer with 2-3500lbs often as well. Must have gotten a good one.
@tomaslopezdiaz
@tomaslopezdiaz Жыл бұрын
cuando tenga tu coche 60000 kms me lo dices, en mi coche jeep cherokee kl los cambios de primera a segunda eran bruscos. he tenido que cambiar el fluido y se nota la mejoria, pero aun asi no va perfecto. ridiculo que segun el fabricante carezca de mantenimiento y su filtro se encuentre en el interior de la caja de cambios. Yo te recomiendo que cambies el aceite en un servicio especialista en ello. Esta caja de cambios no es perfecta
@robertrichardson7116
@robertrichardson7116 7 жыл бұрын
I start on the assembly line for this transmission in three days from now. can't wait, Zf looks like a great company.
@gilbertosantos2806
@gilbertosantos2806 2 ай бұрын
You know its good when you have to wait multiple seconds for upshifts
@Peter-mf2yz
@Peter-mf2yz 5 жыл бұрын
I not had any of these issues with my ZF-9. Then again I bought my Trailhawk in 2017 so these major problems were resolved. Now this doesn't change the fact that it uses x2 Dog-Clutch's one being on the 5th gear which can cause a minor delay in downshifting while on the highway. Other than that the Software with it's self learning AI has worked very good. It will never perform like the ZF-8 but that's ok. Honda/Acura and Range rover never did get the ZF-9 working right since they gave up on it. So I understand if you have the TLX from ACURA how pissed oyu must be. Thank god Chrysler never gave up on the ZF-9. They even helped ZF design a new revised 9 speed for 2020 with all the faults removed(no more Dog clutches and they increased the length of the trans) and the 9th gear will actually be used.
@kevinbrown8603
@kevinbrown8603 5 жыл бұрын
Acura fixed it for the 2019 year, took them a while
@igyw
@igyw 3 жыл бұрын
why would they get rid of Dog clutches, thats what made them unique
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 2 жыл бұрын
@@igyw they didn’t my moms 2020 compass at times feels like my 2015 Chrysler 200. It’s still dog clutches.
@igyw
@igyw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Natethegreat200c transmission tries to predict gear shifts, and alot of the time the TCU is wrong because its shifting purely based on RPM speed thus causing a jerk. it sucks, but hey you can swap in a Acura/honda 10 speed transmission in, and its the same size,
@victorh8863
@victorh8863 Жыл бұрын
Love my Renegade its so smooth and has surprising power for its engine size the 1.3L turbo
@attilakhan4606
@attilakhan4606 3 жыл бұрын
Honda also use this ZF9 at some models
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 4 жыл бұрын
2:09. They literally show you how much lag this transmission has.
@benjaminwilliams2359
@benjaminwilliams2359 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a bad thing?
@MagaRickn
@MagaRickn 4 жыл бұрын
We bought a new Jeep Cherokee in 2015 with this transmission......if I knew then the problems we would have with no remedy, I would have never purchased it!!! Big mistake!
@scottweekley5489
@scottweekley5489 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I have a 2014 Jeep Cherokee. Will not buy another Jeep, will not buy another ZF. What a waste of money.
@MrKreigsmith
@MrKreigsmith 9 жыл бұрын
start work for ZF next week excited
@MrKreigsmith
@MrKreigsmith 3 жыл бұрын
@Derf Derfson Started on the line and move my way up. I'm still here went from making 32k a year to 85k and they sent me to school and paid for it. I have my own cubicle and deal with suppliers:D
@jamesflou
@jamesflou Жыл бұрын
@@MrKreigsmith so I got a P1DB7 engine code is that ECU problem? Not even 100,000 miles.
@billthestinker
@billthestinker 4 жыл бұрын
Honda having major problems with this 9-speed
@alijoon1621
@alijoon1621 Жыл бұрын
One of the best transmissions out there. Do not take it to your car dealer to service . Take to ZF dealer. They know how to correctly service it.
@rafihussain
@rafihussain 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ❤️
@wafi0123
@wafi0123 10 жыл бұрын
ZF is next generation technology .
@tcpUtube1
@tcpUtube1 7 жыл бұрын
Dealer agrees transmission "flutters" at low rpm range approx 1200 to 1500/ 30 to 45 mph. "Flutter"? The whole car shakes. Dealer reloaded software. They want me to drive the car for a couple of weeks to learn my driving traits; see whether the "flutter" diminishes or stops. don't hold much hope this problem will self correct. We will see. Acura's adds assert "Precision Crafted Performance".
@lastmanxa
@lastmanxa 8 ай бұрын
Do i need to change oil or not?
@acerforge3882
@acerforge3882 5 жыл бұрын
What went wrong? Mine is nowhere near as faultless as this presentation suggests. Huge delays on kickdown when the (diesel) engine overrevs. Unpredictable pull away if you use too much throttle. It verges on being dangerous at times.
@victorh8863
@victorh8863 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the drivers own fault
@task5147
@task5147 2 жыл бұрын
Was this transmission designed with towing in mind?
@channelsouthpoint8961
@channelsouthpoint8961 5 жыл бұрын
please add zf marine gear box 360
@damonjones3539
@damonjones3539 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 9 speed auto in my ram van and it sucks. I feel every shift and it's not smooth. Brought it to a transmission shop and they told me I shouldn't mess with it till it's fully broken because those transmission are not worth working on.
@Kaegis
@Kaegis 10 жыл бұрын
How strong is the ZF 6 speed automatic transmission used in the Ford Ranger, Jeep Cherokee and Range Rover? Is it strong and reliable enough to tow a 3 tonne trailer every day for the life of the car??
@eman8920
@eman8920 2 жыл бұрын
Probably I’d watch the temperature and make sure to maintain the fluid every 40k miles
@tcpUtube1
@tcpUtube1 7 жыл бұрын
ZF 9HP in my 2015 Acura TLX sucks. Grinds and continuously searches for the right gear between 1300 and 1600 rpm. Dealer has no ideas how to fix. I don't have my permanent plates yet and I'm wondering what I can get for trade in.
@zfgroup
@zfgroup 7 жыл бұрын
Hi tcpUtube1, We are sorry for any inconveniences with ZF products. Please find our Service Network under www.zf.com/servicenetwork to search for a ZF location near you. ZF Services and ZF Services partner locations should be able help with your problem. Thank you. Best regards, Verena
@oreljacobsberg7272
@oreljacobsberg7272 9 жыл бұрын
The ZF8 in BMW is better to drive then ZF9 in JEEP. MUCH better.
@attilakhan4606
@attilakhan4606 3 жыл бұрын
Well is it similar with EAT6 and EAT8 Aisin Japanese transmissions at least
@To-Masz
@To-Masz Жыл бұрын
Hello. I want to buy a 2014 Jeep Cherokee. Mileage 45,000 miles. Gearbox ZF 9-speed transmission. is this box a problem? What breaks most often and when? Thank you
@jamesflou
@jamesflou Жыл бұрын
Yep after 4 years the damn thing is giving a code in my jeep that the mechanics says calls for a replace transmission/ I still owe $5000 on the car and will have to pay maybe more than that to get another transmission.? Yeah it performed rather well for 4 years but come on? That's why they are pushing those expensive warranties for the DT on this trans.
@BB-di3em
@BB-di3em 3 жыл бұрын
Have this in a Jeep Cherokee, it takes 2 to 3 seconds to downshift if you push the gas pedal to the floor, almost got rear ended because of this while changing lanes, it's an AWFUL transmission!
@MagaRickn
@MagaRickn 4 жыл бұрын
I see from a comment below from Peter, that they redesigned the transmission in 2020. Will the 2020 transmission fit in a 2015 Cherokee??
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 4 жыл бұрын
Or a 2015 chrysler 200!! Because if so sign us up!
@LeightonChiou
@LeightonChiou 4 жыл бұрын
Some of Peter's statement is questionable. The basic architecture of 9 speed used in FCA & Honda products stays the same. There is an updated version branded as 9HP50 but currently only used by JLR since 2019. Dog clutches are still a part of the design but additional sensors are added to better detect the position of the dog clutches (previously sensed mechanically/hydraulically). The tuning & software part of the transmission have great impact on the quality of shift, which is something OEMs need to perfect as they define how they want their vehicles to be profiled for what application.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 4 жыл бұрын
the big question is how much HP can it handle? can it take 1200HP? that's what I need it to handle and have Honda's SH-AWD and have paddle shift.
@zfgroup
@zfgroup 4 жыл бұрын
For further details on this transmission, please visit bit.ly/36MRRpO
@stanmalosev774
@stanmalosev774 4 жыл бұрын
I have a range rover evoque 2014 2.2 sd4 140kw with 9hp48 gearbox 132000km. Gearbox is kicking 2-3 gear. Don't know the reason. Need to check it.
@tomaslopezdiaz
@tomaslopezdiaz Жыл бұрын
cambia el aceite del cambio. a mi me ocurria lo mismo de 1 a 2 y con el cambio de aceite note mejoria, esta caja si necesita mantenimiento.
@omran808ify
@omran808ify 6 жыл бұрын
Can this be fixed in a old car ? Like Dodge Avenger 2008 2.4 L ?
@nexushexus4365
@nexushexus4365 6 жыл бұрын
WTF are you talking about?
@pswscholz437
@pswscholz437 Жыл бұрын
woran kann es liegen das das getriebe von sich aus in den leerlaufschaltet. beim anfahren oder auf der autobahn schon passiert ?!
@zfgroup
@zfgroup Жыл бұрын
Hallo PSW Scholz, aus der Ferne ist das leider schwierig zu beurteilen. Wir raten dir, dich mit einer Partnerwerkstatt in Verbindung zu setzen. Schau doch mal in unserer Suchfunktion, dort findest du Werkstätten in deiner Nähe: bit.ly/3nvyFu3 Viele Grüße dein ZF Team
@user-sf6kl1dx3e
@user-sf6kl1dx3e 5 жыл бұрын
Ill keep my t56 gearbox have more enough gears tyankyou.
@frankish5314
@frankish5314 2 жыл бұрын
And maybe in 2021 it will be reliable!
@scottweekley5489
@scottweekley5489 2 жыл бұрын
That's laughable.
@tomaslopezdiaz
@tomaslopezdiaz Жыл бұрын
mi coche un jeep cherokee kl con motor 2.2 diesel y cambio de 9 velocidades me ha dado problemas. el cambio me hacia los cambios de marcha con brusquedad sobre todo de primera a la segunda velocidad. con 80000 kms he tenido que cambiar el aceite de la transmision y se ha notado ligera mejoria en el cambio de velocidades. la caja de valvulas ya estaria atascada con cambio que un aceite que supuestamente es para toda la vida y no necesita mantenimiento. Es muy fuerte que el filtro no se pueda cambiar ya que es necesario desmontar todo el cambio y su interior. un filtro exterior hubiera sido una buena opcion asi como el tapon de drenaje disponer de imanes para recoger la viruta. vuestro cambio si necesita mantenimiento, y vuestros ingenieros se deben poner más las pilas
@TalalAlSa3ad
@TalalAlSa3ad 5 жыл бұрын
Zf9 on my Jeep Cherokee 15 is rubbish. I believe issues are not present on most other cars (not from FCA } and I would say FCA doesn't now how to tune the transmission for adaptation. And they are used to test the cars on the poor consumer.
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 4 жыл бұрын
Every company with this transmission has issues. Not just chrysler.
@FLJAMESFL
@FLJAMESFL 8 жыл бұрын
To bad their having major problems
@kedcarcambioautomatico2929
@kedcarcambioautomatico2929 Жыл бұрын
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@brotha1984
@brotha1984 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's a good transmission if it's paired with a v6 or v8 not so good with there multi air tigershark 4 banger lag luster like a MF
@AndriiSidliarov
@AndriiSidliarov 2 жыл бұрын
Бракоделы. Спасибо за ATC-500 и 6hp26 с её селектором... С 9hp этой сейчас сражаюсь на фиате знакомого и вижу, что со времен 6-ки ничего нового, все пояснялки абстрактные: меняйте проводку или меняйте мозги, или гидроблок, или коробку - пасиба, как всегда очень помогает. И некому эту шарагу разогнать. Фюрер проснись!
@mrutan6055
@mrutan6055 4 жыл бұрын
Now it's 2020 and the horror stories abound on the internet class action suits with jeep won't shift from 1st to second jumps to 3rd. Car shuts down they have no fix and just keep cranking out. Cars with this junk
@RichardJoashTan
@RichardJoashTan 4 жыл бұрын
And you are a bullshit. I will buy a fully loaded 2020 Honda Ridgeline anyway.
@Loudlevin
@Loudlevin 8 жыл бұрын
Garbage jerky transmission.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 5 жыл бұрын
Most of which has been fixed but a very rough start for VF and the customers that bought 2014-2015 models.
@s2k376
@s2k376 3 жыл бұрын
Trashh
@m.cignarella5146
@m.cignarella5146 6 жыл бұрын
A total piece of garbage. Go on line and be shocked at how many complaints there are.
@yanni2737
@yanni2737 5 жыл бұрын
Works fine on my Compass! Probably software issues with the original Cherokees!
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 5 жыл бұрын
@@yanni2737 Software and assembly issues. Most resolved by 2016 and the 2017 software flash transformed it.
@Preluding99
@Preluding99 5 жыл бұрын
These transmissions suck! Totally garbage! Crazy shifting, horrible experience, always at dealership and so disappointed ZF was engaged for transmissions. This is the worst!!! RUNNING would be more effective.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 5 жыл бұрын
The early ones did suck and more so on Honda and Range rover. Chrysler has perfected it the best of the limitations that the hardware creates.
@TalalAlSa3ad
@TalalAlSa3ad 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulj9821 not quite true. Chrysler Jeep almost all of their cars from 2014 models has hard jerking mostly from gear 4 to 5 shifting
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 4 жыл бұрын
Talal Alsaad and 2015. My 200 4-5 is just UGH!
@scottweekley5489
@scottweekley5489 2 жыл бұрын
It is a really horrible transmission. Would not buy it again...! "Hardly notice gear changed..." please that's a lie.
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