This aesthetic is not in line with hellenic ideals of beauty, which focus on simplicity and moderation.

if you really mean make over (and not a small upgrade or something) then thats a bit stupid cause a make over would mean Greece losses its identity.

As you can see there's alot greeks who think neoclassical buildings are more aesthetic than modern skyscrapers

As a Greek i totally disagree… this isn’t what we want or need….. Greek governments don’t look after us, they only care for tourism. I’m afraid one day Greek people will be dying on the streets and tourists will be having a great time in Greek beaches and sights 😢

Unfortunately this is not possible . Saddly Greece is governed by Animals

All that does not change the fact that Athens is an ugly city that offers a substandard quality of life. Thessaloniki while not super-beautiful either, it is still far more beautiful than Athens and is much superior in all metrics. 1. It is on the sea 2. Surrounded by mountains + has a view over Mt. Olympus - Olympus is one hour drive but then some of Greece's most beautiful mountains are all around 3. Has in it as well as around some of Greece's most important archeological sites 4. Closest island is Thasos but Thessaloniki is just next to Chalkidiki which is easily the best spot on the planet in terms of lovely beaches combining beaches and forested mountains 5. It is the only Greek city within the current state of Greece that existed continuously throughout history as a city, including having been for centuries' Europe's 2nd biggest city after Constantinople 6. It offers a less stressful life 7. It has Greece's biggest university thus gathers the country's youth 8. It has in % less immigrants than Athens I would love for both Thessaloniki and Athens to had been more beautiful as cities, but they are not, they are just covered by cement blocks. And honestly I do not trust the Ellinikon project - usually such projects fail to capture the interest of people after initial commotion.

@@user-ex6nd8dq8w athens has plenty beautiful areas and it is in the eye of the beholder. Point is. The points I mentioned is what makes it special and nothing you can say about concrete that will change that Secondly. This is about Athens. Not Thessaloniki. My family has a house on the halkidiki side with the most perfrct view of the Mount Olympus and the sea in between. So. I know what you talk about. Thessaloniki is great. Because Halkidiki is 30 min away for beach paradise. Mount Olympus is a mountain paradise 1hour away. Edessa and Pozar is wonderful waterfalls and natural hotsprings. Lake Kerkini is a birding paradise surruunded by wonderful mountains and so forth. So. Thessaloniki is a paradise for these and many more reasons already. Nothing you can state about architecture that can change that fact. And secondly. The energy of Greek cities >>>>>>>>>> pretty much everything else in Europe. I have been everywhere in Europe, almost any city, and the vibrancy if Athens and Thessaloniki is just incredible. And lets not forget the food and bar scene. Thessaloniki has the most bars per capita in Europe. Also. the Acropolis is just something else. Whatever you say The views around towards the Acropolis is just divine and unique. I just came from Prague, bolzano and then Milano and none of these cities have such beauty and energy. Again. I repeat. What makes Athens special js the wonderful and wonderfully placed archaeological sites that no other city has. Secondly. You can be in Mount Dirfi, Mount Parnassus, And in North Peloponnese mountans in 1-1.5 hours. You habe mountains around Athens and the closest national park in Europe of any city. Then the possiblity to be in 10 different island worlds that are each their own paradise. All accessible within an hour from Athens. Athens has its own riviera and wonderful sites like temple of Poseidon etc. Athens has perfect hill views around of the city, surrounded by mountains, sea and islands. Again. This combination is magical and something special in Europe. And yes. Thessaloniki is exactly wonderful for these reasons too. If you include the fact that you hsve 1001 paradises just outside Thessaloniki, its just bizar. I just drove through the alps through Bolzano westwards for the most part of the Alps. Nothing impresses me more than the diversity of beauties Greece has to offer at any turn. Because Athens, like Thessaloniki are truly special for the qualities I mention. But Also Nafplion has this. Also Chania and Rethymnon. Also Ioannina as a couple other examples. In all these cities you have endless beauty a stone throw away around and may I say I love these cities for their beauty

@@Ptolemy336VV Don't get wrong my message. My main point is rather that both Thessaloniki and Athens are ideally situated and are having strong points not easily found in most other cities in Europe, however we managed to build them with ugly blocks of cement that ultimately make for ugly cities. And we did so tearing down the old neoclassical houses that were more tied to they country's traditions - to be noted, while the neoclassical was seen as "artificial" 19th century style, it was indeed developed after studying ancient/medieval architecture and thus it was organically tied with tradition, and was one of the most beautiful architectural styles worlwide. I would much like to see something different in Ellinikon, not a copy of Dubai. This is not what Athens should be about, even if that brings more money. It is not about the money.

​@@user-ex6nd8dq8w I think Hellinikon is perfect. It's a glimpse of future Athens. A part of Athens being more futuristic. While also having the many neoclassical buildings elsewhere in the center of the city. It's a perfect blend of old and new. Something doesnt have to be only old, or only new. Athens is artistic in that way. Next. I don't agree with how ugly it is as you say. Center of Athens is scenic. Plaka, anafiotika, Psyrri, Kolonaki, Zappeion area, other areas, plenty areas wonderful. And the coastal Athens is also wonderful. I wouldn't say everything is wonderful and I do know specifically the type of architecture you are otherwise referring to, but this is found everywhere in Italy and other countries too. Rome in center is nice, and perfect city for walking. But go outside the center and the mass appartment blocks are exactly the same as in Greece. And besides. the Appartment blocks arent all bad. There are plenty areas with beautiful appartment blocks. The worst architectures in ALL cities in Europe are form 70s. And me living in the Netherlands this is extremely the same case. We just need to replace them. And it one day will. Look at all the wonderful real estate that are made in Halkidiki, islands, and so forth in the last 10 year. All wonderful homes. Wonderful designs. Wonderful stone and material combinations. I still wish to have a Cycladic style bathroom with combination of stones, and perhaps an area of mosaic like in those houses. gorgeous. Point is. I know what I am speaking of. And the very thing you mention is happening all across Europe. The onlythings that arent ugly are the architectures before 70-80s and the modern buildings. But ding ding ding. Here comes the kicker. Much of europe's population growths happeneed around the 60s,70s,80s leading to focus on mass and fast construction. Greece at that time wasn't consiously aware and neither did they have the money. Time is different now. Lastly. I worry more about a bill that is maybe being passed that allows for constructing buildings ON the coast. Now the limit is 30m away from the coast. while now other countryies have it at 150-300m away from the coast. But Greece is now removing last limits. Which would be incredibly foolish. The whole reason what makes Greeces coastline OBLITERATE that of Spain and Italy and so forth is because of the naturality of it's coastlines. 80% mountains that combine with and rising out of the sea in ways that are breathtaking. While spain has vastly less mountains at the coasts and in general, which lead to the destruction of their coastlines as they could easily build at the coast. Look at the mass constructions ruining their already less beautiful coastlines with such things.

@@Ptolemy336VV The neoclassicals in Athens, just like in Thessaloniki are sparsely left, one here, another there. What should had been the case is that if not all, then most of the city should be built on such a style. I am not hung up on neoclassical, but just any style with a basic sense of artistic consideration, not this vomit-inducing "modernist" style with which Greek cities were built, literally competing in ugliness the contemporary back then communist blocks. And once you delve into the world of architecture you will find out the communist link and why so many architects pushed for this ugliness - it was not done for "financial reasons" as people think. An artistic style such as neoclassical did not really cost so much more than their boxes. It was rather pushed by designs, already since design schools working on Bauhaus principles and we all know the ties of Bauhaus style to the Frankfrurt socialist school. The whole idea was to break tradition, break art, make ugly cities, transform pepole from humans to machines. Read what Le Corbusier was writing - himself designing ugly boxes "machines for living" as he described them, but then opting to live in a proper neoclassical home full of real art. Disgusting individual. These people should be put to death for the amount of crimes they did against humanity.

The dust there is pretty epic. A lot of us don't have a mega yacht to cruise on over or mega bucks to spend on what you know will be super expensive place. Will they insist on hiring locals to work there? If not those bucks earned will leave the country big time.

I mean the city is quite dense so unless they tear up buildings, which they'll have to buy off first, I don't see any way they can achieve creating more parks. Our capital is just too full. Too many people live there, we gotta take them and move them somewhere else but that's not gonna be possible.

100% with you my friend

Looks like DUBAI !! WHOS GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD ALL THIS LOLOLOLL ?? ULTRA RICH PLAY GROUND ! AND A CASINO TO RIPP MORE PEOPLE OFF ! WOW ! 😢 SAD ITS GOING TO RUIN THE CHARM OF ANCIENT GREECE NOT A GOOD IDEA sorry ! People in Greece a struggling to buy groceries and pay utilities which are sky high and they put this in there ??

A casino is s very ugly thing 😢

Everybody know in greece that money comes from europe or usa !!! Greece is a protectorate not real state...🎉🎉🎉

Εδώ! Για την Ελλάδα του Μητσοτάκη πρόκειται;

@@chryssanthistell γιατί του Μητσοτάκη?

@@chryssanthistell Oχι για την Ελλαδα των πατο-Ζ-αιων , θα το κανε και ο Τσιπρας αλλα δεν προλαβε. Του πηρε λιγο παραπανω χρονο η οργανωση των εγκαινίων του μετρο της θεσσαλονίκης , γι 'αυτο !!! . :) Εχεις 2 ευρω να πας απο βδομαδα να ψηφισεις Κασσελακη η να σου δωσω Εγω συντροφε ? :)

εδώ. για την Ελλάδα ήρθα και απογοητεύτηκα. είμαι αγρότης στην Πελοπόννησο και δεν παμε καλά.

Έχει σημασία; Σταματήστε να είστε Ελληναράδες...

Alas

In your dreams ..

@@pompei1968 literally you can see it, also they gave the first buildings to the public, so i guess it's your dreams that got destroyed

@@whatsup-zh6qv Greece is a poor country...only with Germany's money

@@pompei1968 dude we had heard that many many many times at past from many many many stupid people like you,so your hatred comment is so outdated and lame.you was born yesterday my dude?i have a good advise for you,keep paying high taxes so greece can create that project.greeks are way smarter people than you are because at the end they ''eating''your money and you just complaing and crying on youtube....lmao how cool is that?personally i love and admit the greek people

I was thinking the same... could be... there have been rumours in the past

I wish for that ❤

This will be a "15 minute city" for the global elite. I don't think they have plans for it. Maybe only when those foreign Millionaires and Billionaires who will buy all the apartments, want to have a F1 track, they are going to build one for them.

Are you on drugs my friend unless you're talking about Overtown or Brownsville in Miami shithole areas.

but better

@@quazorr2963 Athens is a shithole other than a few spots what are you smoking My friend even comparing it to Miami?

There's definitely a case to be made that the tourists attracted to this area will be subtracted from other areas in Greece, and that the balance will overall remain the same.

South athenian ????😅😅😅😅😅😅χαχαχα ωραίο ρε φιλε .. και γω ειμαι βορειος αθηναίος απο λυκόβρυση....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Βρε μλκ, πίπες πουλάει. Από το μυαλό του τα βγάζει

Οι αγροτες ειναι ο δεικτης αναπτυξης μιας χωρας;

Γι'αυτό χτίζουν σπίτια για πλούσιους για να μπορέσεις να τους πουλάς με μεγαλύτερο κέρδος.

@@andreaskotsos8320 προφανος εισαι πολύ έξω από την γεοργια δεν μπορείς να καταλάβεις. καλή σου μέρα

@@Chicagohitman000 φιλε μου αγροτη, η γεωργια δεν ειναι ο δεικτης αναπτυξης της οικονομιας. Δεν ειμαστε αγροτικη κοινωνια, ειστε ενα πολυ μικρο ποσοστο του γενικοτερου πληθυσμου

Εσυ το έγραψες. εγώ δεν είπα αυτό.., τώρα που ξέρεις από που στηρίζετε η οικονομία μπορείς να μας πεις το λόγο που η ΕΕ πνιγεί τους αγρότες σε κάθε χώρα. Αγγλία Γερμανία Γαλλία Ιταλία και κάθε έξεις. Μήπως γνωρίζεις ;

Yes, but don't forget, patriot, that we also have many earthquakes, after a 6.5 on the Richter scale, will be the first skyscraper unfit for habitation.😂🤣😂🤣

@@princessgothicgirl1584 You really believe that a 6.5 Richter earthquakes is a problem for a skyscraper. Japan has many skyscrapers and they have many earthquakes of 7 or above Richter.

What tall towers do you have in Greece?XDXD

There are more earthquakes in Japan and California @@princessgothicgirl1584

​@churchofsatanalbaniagreeks live in lala land1468

you city would been beautyful instead of all those ugly n 5 floor blocks were more highrises and more space for green ...your leftist looser mentality brought the ugly cement carpet of non architectural athens...wake up dont be jealous not all people is rich but there is no reason to hate rich people

Amen Lived in Ano Glyfada in a 6th floor Apt (flat) that overlooked the old Athens Intl Airport. I remember driving up to that old airport to pick up/drop off visitors and seeing a Greek soldier outfront sunning himself on top of a tank. The year was 1985;1986;1987😮.

Athenians, yourself not included we are very happy with this project.

Work your ass off and you'll be able to afford them.

@@DoctorGravity642 0iq ? who told u he doesnt work son of a b?

what has this to do with it?

@@jorham1That the most of us (Greeks) we are living in poverty and the few "chosen ones" who can live there in the future, they can put the scyscrapers and their protected community in their a-holes my friend...

Το κράτος δεν θα δώσει ούτε ευρώ για το ελληνικό

Irrelevant. This is a privately funded project. Not an infrastructure one.

@@AndreasStokas Dude, it a privately funded project, on land the goverment gave with 90% discount to their friends. If i and you probably had the chance to buy some land there for even 20% discount to market i would buy it myself but that was not what the goverment wanted.

Όταν είσαι πανίβλακας...

@@roussounmanman 90 ευρώ το τετραγωνικό

Better hike up the security too.

Nop they are not. Fun fact the riviera tower was sold out before construction, by mostly greeks.

@@whatsup-zh6qv greek millionaires and bllioniaires, the project is not for the average Greek citizen

@@paokaraify wtf did you expect? The point is it is Greek funded not Chinese and that is good. It is a building with 100 apartments or so, did you expect the avg Greek to buy it?

It's a private sector's investment so it's gonna happen

where do you live?its under construction yet

Το ελπίζω 😅

Μην αγχώνεσαι το κέντρο και τα κοντινά μέρη της κάτω Πατήσια κυψέλη κτλ τα ίδια μπουρδέλα που είναι θα μείνουν

ωραια η ομονοια ε? να μην δωσουμε ζωη σε κατεστραμμενες περιοχες δλδ

αυτό έχει να κάνει με τους Μ/@στες.

Ένα αισχος δηλαδή

Greece out of all countries 😅😅😅.. this video is delusional

Athens with the other cities around and Piraeus have the same urban development so it’s actually the same city with 4 million people

@@Iasonass21 hahaha 🤪🤪🤪🤪 athens its only the center with half million the rest 65 cities belong to attica region...

You are IGNORANT and dumb.....Germany should STFU....1) Europeans bailed out Germany after the war. 2) Greece signed for Germany's debt to be forgiven so it can stand on its feet after WWII 3) Germany never paid for the destruction of the entire infrastructure in Greece during the war 4) Germany never paid back the OBLIGATORY LOAN they forced upon Greece during the occupation. 5) They stole the entire gold supply from the central BANK OF GREECE and they never returned it. Go learn history MALAKA..... ΑΝΤΕ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΜΠΑΣΤΑΡΔΕ------ Google translate is your friend....

@pompei1968 Germany economy is on a downslide, read the news!

@@braila-jf8hb still better than that poor country of Greece

@@pompei1968 Just how do you figger that out? You will not find a more resilient race on the planet under any circumstances.

@@braila-jf8hb why Greeks are a race?

Yeah right. The locals are already seeing their real estate price skyrocketing and they are extremely happy about it. Keep in mind that 70% of households in Greece own at least one apartment.

Αριστερούλι μου εσύ...

@@AndreasStokas real estate prices rising are only good if you own multiple houses which you plan on selling for profit or renting. If you are a local that only owns the house in which he lives in, the result will only be higher taxes on that house. Not to mention the noise, pollution, and the overall obstruction of the view of the areas behind the skyscrapers. Greeks are not going to benefit from this one bit, only the foreign investors that have already bought every single apartment in the future skyscrapers. Greece is slowly becoming a gigantic hotel.

You have 0 idea about Greece, is stavros niarcho degrated? What about marina flisvos? You talk shit

There a metro line connecting the area, there is already new stations in construction that will be ready by that time, and there is also the tram line from the riviera to the port of Piraeus

@@Zaxos123 real people want to go from syndagma to the beach in 10 minutes , not more. They have other things to do as well. As this is happening in other developed turistic cities ( eg Barcelona). Now, if you have 2 hours to go to the beach, and 2 hours to return, you take the tram. I worh, unfortunately, my time is precious same happens with the time of visitors in Athens. They don’t have so mych time. They just don’t syay in Athens more than 1-2 days, an the city is loosing bilious of money every yerar, due to that ( intended) inconvenience. . Being next to the beach but unable to go🤔🤔🤔🤔

it's not that easy to dig and make an underground tunnel next to the sea you know

There is a tram line and buses that connect Athens city with the beaches

@@georgegiapitzis8204 “connect “ in all world, means that you access the beach in 15-20 the max, from center of Athens. Without changing any train. More time is not considered access, and is referring to people who have lots of time to spend. Normal working people or turists do not hsve time to spend in trams etc, that may lead them to a beach in 1-2 hours.

Ugly? Describe your statement. Where are you from?

​​@@georgezagr6627i am Greek and when i visited Athens i saw that too, Athens looks like a third world's city, of course there are some exceptions

you are a big joke

You are the joke… this is a serious 2 billion dollar investment and you cant even understand basics