The worlds largest tram network. How many trams are there in the Melbourne Tram Fleet?

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4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the weekly tram presentation on Schony747.
It's pretty simple this week. Melbourne is the biggest operational tram network in the world and this weeks video asks.... how many trams are in the Yarra Trams Melbourne Tram Fleet. By looking at the video, you will get the answer along with some other useful information about the fleet.
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@christopherduffie9036 4 жыл бұрын

I love our tram fleet in Melbourne, there's so many different Classes and varieties. All of them look super cool and are fun to ride too. Thanks for the great video Brenden. It's nice to see all the trams when not able to get out and about much these days. 🚊🔔🔔

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

You need to get out more. Thanks always for watching.

@christopherduffie9036 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂😂 thanks Brenden, I'll keep that in mind. 😂😂 Always great to watch your awesome videos 👍🏻🚊🔔🔔

@margaretbrown2568 4 жыл бұрын

How blessed are we to live in this beautiful city. That is the wonderful thing in watching these tram and train clips, it really does showcase what a great place Melbourne and Victoria is.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Fantastic place and city to live.

@kalpeshwani8520 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect Placement.

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having a look 😀😀

@brucewilliams8714 4 жыл бұрын

A great visual and textual compilation. Many thanks.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for looking!

@lynnesmith8281 Жыл бұрын

Love our trams - love your channel.

@Schony747 Жыл бұрын

Everyone loves our trams. Thanks 😀😀

@MyDiesel101 4 жыл бұрын

As always, an excellent and very informative video Brenden! Thank You for creating it. I have been watching your tram videos for several years and I enjoy every one of them. My favorite Routes are # 96, # 70 and # 12. I still have to discover more routes! Melbourne is a beautiful city and the tram fleet looks beautifully maintained. Someday I'd want to visit Melbourne and ride on Rt# 96, with you at the helm!

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for coming back! I would be happy driving the 75 and 96 over and over.

@marsgal42 4 жыл бұрын

My introduction to Australia was Melbourne, trundling around town on the trams and asking the taxi driver in from Tullamarine about hook turns. His response was that it was easier to watch people do it than attempt to explain it... :-) I've lived in Toronto, another town that has kept their streetcars all along.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah hook turns are a bit confusing. Melbourne people still can't get it right! I'll do a visual presentation one day.

@TramPainter 4 жыл бұрын

One day, and I hope it is not too far away, I look forward to visiting Melbourne again. I still think of the trams as my own special friends, and miss them like I do my human mates. In fact, more so, as they are more use!

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Yes they have their own character. I'm still happy driving after 17 years.

@smb6995 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, very interesting, I tried to find more informative videos about Melbourne's tramways, but couldn't, so your video was very useful

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having a look.

@margaretbrown2568 4 жыл бұрын

Thank for that very interesting and thorough bit of research and editing. Makes you proud to be a Melbournian. Shame we couldn’t have continued making them here.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The last 85 have been made down the road at Dandenong Bombardier which is the old Comeng factory.

@aussiejohn5835 4 жыл бұрын

This is a very informative video and I thank you for it. I have always been impressed with the Melbourne tram system and it is something to be proud of as a driver. I am also impressed with the amount of trams manufactured in Australia. I think we in NSW could have done the same.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I had a similar conversation. Trams maybe more expensive to produce here but the build creates jobs on many levels, revenue for the government such as payroll tax which would probably offset some of th e difference.

@aussiejohn5835 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 I agree but those who are in charge seem to assume the worst and don't look at the bigger picture. The Sydney experience seems to have cost much more than it would had it been constructed in Australia.

@andrewpalm2103 4 жыл бұрын

Thorough and very interesting. Thanks! I've been interested in streetcars/trams and interurbans since I was a young teen in the late 50's and early 60's. I grew up in Michigan City, IN, which is home to "The Last Interurban," the South Shore. Anything you do on the tram infrastructure there "is gold." I hope you can someday cover line maintenance equipment, tow vehicles, etc. Cheers from Wisconin.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I've got some ideas but much of what I can do will be dictated by company policys etc.

@andrewpalm2103 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 Hey, no pressure, mate. Whatever you can manage will be most appreciated. "Back in the day" I could wander into a RR maintenance shop, camera in hand, and nobody had a problem with it. Times have changed.

@harrysubscriptions1052 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Would love a vid on your ‘day in the life’. And some Depot BTS

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having a look.

@letsseeif 2 жыл бұрын

Just the sound of a Melbourne tram warms my heart as I sit in the Barber's Shop awaiting my turn. (ps. not in Lockdown)

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

The sounds of a Melbourne Tram warms everyone's heart. A recent survey showed people don't care about trains and buses but would be upset if trams weren't around.

@aoilpe 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing me my bumblebees ! Greetings from Mulhouse

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for looking. Feel free to message me at Facebook Schony747 with more from Mulhouse and I can give it a share

@aoilpe 4 жыл бұрын

@ Schony747 : Do our Mulhouse Trams still have the different designs on every vehicle ? (Red and black on yellow?) Ours have also Name’s of community’s being part of the “Conurbation” of the City on the middle part.

@samjackson1818 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Brenden I am recent subscriber, I am mostly into Trains but I don't mind seeing Tram videos. Seeing you videoing those trams around the CBD and various locations, makes me proud to live in Melbourne that has the largest Tram network in the World.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub. As long as you're enjoying the channel!

@samjackson1818 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 No problem I sure am enjoying your channel!

@dhandapanitk4126 2 жыл бұрын

Useful video.

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😀😀

@CityWhisperer 4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know there could be tram traffic jams, that’s new lol. Some good old/new variety of trams there

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Tram jams during a break down is like a conga line of trams!

@charmersify 4 жыл бұрын

You need to get us some Depot[inside] vids and also some work equipment:)

@graemewithers5089 4 жыл бұрын

Got any photos of the Victorian Railways { ! } trams that used to run from Brighton Beach Station along St Kilda Street through Middle Brighton and on to St Kilda station? I used to ride them to school when I was staying with my aunt in Middle Brighton. Wonderful trams, open when it was sunny, and shuttered when it was raining.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I don't. That was well before my time. There are plenty of photos if you google VR Trams.

@simonboxshall7392 4 жыл бұрын

love the video, would like to see you do the same thing with the Metro trains fleet :D

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

OK. I can arrange that. I don't have much of an idea but I've got train driver mates who can help with that.

@wizzard5442 4 жыл бұрын

Melbourne Metro Trains. Excellent videos kzfaq.info/love/Xbgfs28Iyf6USOYFLG0ClQ

@heathertruskinger6214 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.....I can remember when those Z class were the "newest" in the fleet. Call me old fashioned...but I love the W class I think the best. ( Although my knees these days would disagree 😂). Actually my knees aren't too keen on any of the high floor trams, but that's old age for you !💚🧡💚🧡

@peterausfranken 4 жыл бұрын

Yes the W Class where the best trams in Melbourne👍

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I loved the Z1 and Z2 trams. Not great to drive in slippery conditions but the tram had character as well.

@krisdevos8452 Жыл бұрын

@Peter L. I don't agree really I think the best are Z Class b2, and the d2

@Bobrogers99 4 жыл бұрын

Operating a variety of trams from several different places of manufacture must complicate the maintenance a bit due to needing a large inventory of parts, though not all depots necessarily service all models. The fact that all but four of the trams ever delivered are still running speaks highly for the quality of their maintenance! Here in the US, after WWII the automotive and oil industries bought up many of our urban streetcar lines and replaced them with diesel buses, a move that many of us now regret. Melbourne has a public transport system that has almost everybody within walking distance of a tram stop and uses less energy to operate. I foresee the day when your electricity will be generated from solar sources, making the trams even more cost-effective!

@peterausfranken 4 жыл бұрын

The Motors of the different trams C, D und E Class are the same and came from Siemens Alstrom. I think that a lot of the electric controls in the E Class where bulit with parts that are also coming from Siemens Alstrom. Parts bulit in Australia are the body work and the final buliding.

@dfross87 4 жыл бұрын

I assure you the vast majority of Melbourne is a very long walk from a tram stop.

@blueycarlton 4 жыл бұрын

Bob Rogers The US had an enormous tram/street car systems in many, many, cities and towns across the country. In Australia, only Melbourne kept their full network. Adelaide kept one line open to the beach. Bendigo still has a tourist tram operating. The rest are long gone. Canberra, Sydney, and the Gold Coast have recently opened small networks.

@darrenroom 4 жыл бұрын

The Sofia system has 164 km of double track tramway, and thus is far smaller than the Melbourne system, not as suggested by an earlier note below...

@moo80 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, loved seeing all the trams in our network (even if I do despise the D series 😄). Do you know what became of that single A class that is no longer in the fleet?

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

Gone to tram heaven. Deemed not worth repairing.

@FromtheWindowSeat 4 жыл бұрын

This is awesome. Thank you! 👍 I always enjoy riding the trams when I visit (I’m from Adelaide). Are any of the older trams planned to be retired? 🤔

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The Z3 trams are the next in line for retirement as the fleet of now 40+ years old. More services will probably mean no retirements in the short term anyway.

@FromtheWindowSeat 4 жыл бұрын

Schony747 Good to know. Thanks!

@charmersify 4 жыл бұрын

BTW, what route is 6021 operating? I noticed that the overhead looks similar to mainline RR catenary; also like the PRW and the antique shop:) Also, what is the name of that bridge behind the W8 tram climbing the hill?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The W8 is climbing Latrobe St. The bridge behind is the Bolte Bridge a part of the Citylink freeway network. 6021 is a Southbank Tram so mainly does route 96. When it visits Preston, it also runs around on routes 11 and 86.

@jimcrawford5039 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Schony, most enjoyable! If not a silly question, what does PT stand for on trams & trains? NSW.

@brucewilliams8714 4 жыл бұрын

There's actually a sideways V as well: Public Transport Victoria. It's meant to be cool!!

@jimcrawford5039 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

@jimcrawford5039 4 жыл бұрын

Forgot to say I moved from Vic in 1977 but I always keep an eye to what’s happening. Things have changed so much! If I come down, it’s mainly to the N.E.

@michaelpridmore1471 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, what happened to the restaurant trams?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Restaurant trams need to upgrade like the City Circle Trams. The burgundy CC trams were withdrawn and are being replaced by the more structurally sound W8 version. Restaurant trams need to do the same thing.

@mje772003 4 жыл бұрын

So where are the restaurant trams being currently stored? at depots or stored away somewhere else?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Preston Workshops

@LewisLevy 4 жыл бұрын

Greatly informative video! In your opinion, what model of tram is the best for Melbourne?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The B class is still probably the best tram ever built. Last one was delivered in 1994 and the class is still a great tram and nice to drive.

@LewisLevy 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree from a passenger point of view

@krisdevos8452 Жыл бұрын

@Schony747 yes I agree it's the best floor tram in Melbourne

@rond6783 3 жыл бұрын

Which ones are the best to drive?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

The B2 Class high floor articulated tram and the Combino. Both are great to drive and set up well for the driver.

@baird55aus 2 жыл бұрын

' what is foot Control' referring to? Do they not have any hand controls?

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

Two types of trams - hand control accelerator and brake and the older foot control or peddle cars which is essentially the same as driving an automatic car

@AlexDennismiracleboi 4 жыл бұрын

I like the Melbourne Trams fleet. More so the 100% low floor (thanks to my disability) and wished Sydney had kept their network instead of getting rid of it. Glad we are rebuilding but will never match the Melbourne Network. Would be good if you did a similar video for Metro Trains Melbourne

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I'm working on a Metro Trains similar presentation.

@wizzard5442 4 жыл бұрын

Melbourne Metro Trains. Excellent videos. kzfaq.info/love/Xbgfs28Iyf6USOYFLG0ClQ

@charmersify 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, I think the Sofia, BG system is 300 route kilometers, also double track.

@dfross87 4 жыл бұрын

According to the all knowing Wikipedia , it's about 150 route kilometres (~300 track kilometres).

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

14:43 Geez, these old beasts would be heavy, put a lot of W8 (W-eight - weight! Get it?) on the tracks! LOL

@125sloth 4 жыл бұрын

The old beasts were real trams. Hardly ever derailed in a crash. Newer trams come off easily, although that is probably better as any impact is less serious. Brenden should be able to explain the physics. Old trams made a mess of cars, (and the people in them), in a serious crash, , and mostly it was the fault of the car.

@youtubeviewer7030 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call them beasts

@neilforbes416 3 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeviewer7030 That was just my mannerism. Nothing more. It's just a turn of phrase I use.

@youtubeviewer7030 3 жыл бұрын

@@neilforbes416 comereng not around anymore

@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын

Good video mate, just a few spelling mistakes in your information panels. Perhaps you could include the locations of the video clips and the route # next time for everyone to enjoy. Some of the locations had me guessing and I am a local.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I thought I sorted out the typos. Next time I can include locations if that helps.

@Kevin-go2dw 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 Yes please include locations. Enjoyed the video. Part of Z class is where I work (for rehabilitation and therapy).

@malcolmone1 4 жыл бұрын

why do the trams have high fleet numbers ?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

It's all to do with separating the class of tram. No so much the type of tram but separate fleet numbers helps.

@noddy8607 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video Schony and it has generated plenty of replies. The current collection system used in George Street Sydney seems to be similar to the plough system formerly used in New York, London and other overseas cities. Will the unnecessarily expensive George Street section suffer the same problems encountered overseas I wonder?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Give it time now L3 is up and running. They wouldn't spend all of that money for nothing!

@coasterblocks3420 2 жыл бұрын

I hate how they obscure the windows with advertising. They do that to the PT in Brisbane too. Makes the vehicle feel claustrophobic.

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

It's an interesting talking point. Some don't like the advertising some think it adds colour to the city.

@TazzieTransport 4 жыл бұрын

what happened to the W6 trams

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

All being upgraded to the W8 variety.

@Rob-fc9wg 2 жыл бұрын

Are the W6 trams the ones with roll up canvas flaps rather than doors?

@Puckoon2002 4 жыл бұрын

What happened to the one missing A class tram?

@peterausfranken 4 жыл бұрын

It was lost by a fire

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Electrical fire on Collins St resulting from a faulty pantograph and electrical issues.

@joshuaharper4446 3 жыл бұрын

Since when they used d1 on route 58

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

2015 / 16 from memory. It's been a few years now.

@joshuaharper4446 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 have you done that route before

@fnh8340 4 жыл бұрын

Are these the only 1600mm trams anywhere in the world? I presume that the gauge is the original Irish gauge.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The current network is Standard Gauge. The Victorian Railways Trams in the South East were broad gauge.

@blueycarlton 4 жыл бұрын

@@33jtm33 Many years ago back in the 80's they put the roundabout in at Elwood. The council dug up the road and you could still see the intersection of the tram tracks down Glenhuntly Rd. and the broad gauge VR tracks.

@johnd8892 4 жыл бұрын

Some useful information here. However in your 2015 fleet coverage you made the useful point that the W class remaining were built between 1940 and 1955. Here it just seems to refer to a recent re-building program from 2013. I think I could safely say that the vast majority of people looking for W class information is the original build dates of 1940 to 1955, if that is still the case. So many people get confused about the W class and think the remaining ones are all from the 1920s. Your video, while being a very useful record, sadly missed the chance to correct this error. Would it be too cheeky of me to ask for a new video on the existing W class trams only. A video giving the build dates and more history of these historic survivors?

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

I can di that. It's only W8 trams these days but I can list the original build dates etc.

@johnd8892 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 Thanks for the reply. It would be useful to know for each W8 what they were converted from eg SW6 or SW7 or whatever.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Here's a link to vicsig trams which will help as well. Here's the current W8 fleet - 856, 888, 928, 946, 957, 969, 981 983, 1010. Soon 925 will join the fleet as well vicsig.net/index.php?page=trams

@paulalderson6920 3 жыл бұрын

How are Melbourne tram drivers trained?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

5 weeks of training with a mix at Preston Workshops and a trainer at the home depot. All aspects of tram operations and regulations are covered. It's a road based vehicle so the only requirement is a full driver's license

@Rob-fc9wg 2 жыл бұрын

No no, train drivers are "trained", tram drivers are trammed.

@mfxx6843 4 жыл бұрын

I think this is for sure not the longest tram network in the world, check out the Polish Silesia tram network, over 300 KM

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

Melbourne is the largest operating network from what i can gather.

@normandiebryant6989 2 жыл бұрын

Those Siemens Combino trams are the worst by far. It's as though, after they were finished, they thought "Oh, we forgot about passengers! Lets squeeze a handful of seats in and they can sprawl half-lying down across the motor-housings with their legs sideways in the aisle". Then there's the huge garden shed for the driver which only the slimmest of passengers can squeeze past. They're on my line and I can hardly wait for them to be scrapped. Alas, the zeddies and B2s will probably go first, sadly.

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

From a drivers point of view it's probably the best low floor tram ergonomically. Passengers it's not the best and always rates low in "what is you're favourite tram" surveys. The single door issue isn't much better on the B2 and A Class. I still think the B2 tram will be seen to be the best tram ever built for Melbourne.

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

10:01 Bombadier and Comeng(Commonwealth Engineering). Either of these two companies could've supplied the Sydney Tramway System with top-quality rolling stock but Gladys Bere-JOKE-lian decides to commit treason and buy inferior foreign-built trams instead.

@carisi2k11 4 жыл бұрын

Comeng doesn't exist anymore and Bombardier was too busy filling E class tram orders and those foreign built trams are of a high quality. Most of the issues early on had to do with the power supply failing and not the trams themselves.

@youtubeviewer7030 3 жыл бұрын

comerng has been gone over the past twenty years

@neilforbes416 3 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeviewer7030 Comeng! Not Comerng.

@youtubeviewer7030 3 жыл бұрын

@@neilforbes416 well at least you’re up to date now what happened to the company

@neilforbes416 3 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeviewer7030 Shame, though! We should be building our own trams and trains........Hmmmmmm..... "Trams & Trains".... Where have I heard that before? LOL

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

7:23 If there had to be imported trams in the fleet, best to come "aus Deutschland"! The Siemens D1 Combinos would be equal to Comeng in quality and far superior to that French Alstom crap.

@carisi2k11 4 жыл бұрын

The D1 combino's have some of the worst failure rates. Poor quality workmanship and significant safety issues.

@youtubeviewer7030 4 жыл бұрын

Neil Forbes Comeng has been gone over the past thirty years

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeviewer7030 You did see that video Schony had uploaded of that three-piece tram being delivered on a low-loader late at night? He made it fairly clear it was from Comeng. And it was very recent.

@youtubeviewer7030 4 жыл бұрын

Neil Forbes it cant be it’s been gone since 1990

@youtubeviewer7030 4 жыл бұрын

Neil Forbes read again

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

6:01 And the C2 Alstom Citadis "Bumblebees" just as crappy when compared to Melbourne's Dandenong-built Comeng trams. Those Alstoms are French, so naturally, they're rubbish.

@Schony747 4 жыл бұрын

The C2 tram is quite a good tram to drive. I've never really had any issues with them. The Sydney Alstom Trams are very good and only purchased as no one else could provide 3rd rail power. As you say buying Australian would have been a good thing.

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 Given the opportunity, Comeng or Bombadier could have provided a tram with capability for pantograph(overhead wire) or third rail power supply and could've possibly modified one of their classes for such a method of power supply. There's simply NO excuse for buying foreign-made trams when there are not one but TWO fully-equipped tram manufacturers right here in Australia.

@aussiejohn5835 4 жыл бұрын

@@neilforbes416 The third rail option was a whim of Clover Moore the Lord mayor of Sydney because she didn't want wires and poles cluttering up her city and looking untidy. Unfortunately Gladys went along with this ridiculous idea and ended up costing millions more than was necessary. We still have all the ugly poles but no wires.

@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын

@@aussiejohn5835 First of all, let's ditch this "Lord" crap. Whether it's Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Adelaide, Newcastle, Wollongong or Woop-Woop, the term should simply be Mayor! And while we're at it, DITCH those bullshit robes and chains as well. The whole thing STINKS of Pommie aristocracy and DOES NOT fit with Australia's EGALITARIAN principles. Now to the trams. Yes, the overhead wires should be the only way to power the trams, and Sydney's Mayor, Clover Moore should like it or lump it. But Gladys Bere-JOKE-lian should've gone to Melbourne, to either or both of Comeng and Bombadier to get her state's tram fleet. Buying from overseas is a BLATANT ACT OF TREASON!

@youtubeviewer7030 4 жыл бұрын

Neil Forbes you are going off the topic here