Hay Vars could you please do a video on disrupters "mages"

It's like the smallest mage sub class packing on AOE and utility with some damage

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Agree. Vars needed to decide on which definition of "worst" he was going for in this video, because as is, the results are all over the place. The criteria ranges from "too broken/useless or underwhelming/thematically inconsistent/boring" depending on the champ.

LB's worst design ability is definitely passive. Most of the time its 0.5 sek of untargetability for free and it saves her ass for just existing rather then deception more then it should

“LB… distortion… it is such a good ability, that is why it is her worst ability.”

That is so tru it kinda confused me @vars

Completely agree. Especially with stuff like "Karthus's worst ability is his passive" with absolutely no elaboration.

It sucks on paper but it's integral to his playstyle. The passive part of the skill is something he absolutely needs to hit and run instead of hit and die

Amongst every abilities, it definitely is one.

In wild rift his w is a dash

After much deliberation, I've come to the conclusion that Teemo's W is one of the abilities on League of Legends

Even his W is op tbh

Literally

Malzahar R worst abilities

it was the worst designed abilities? not worst power wise

@@Chucboris but then he put a lot of things that aren’t broken just because he didn’t like them even if it’s something not broken

@@islixxn talon's E, Katarina resets... that's him being bias and shitting on things he finds strong instead of "bad designed" the vid got annoying pretty fast

Better than what it used to be

i think it's awesome, If you play him support the adc is there to level up most of the time and on mid i love giving it to my jungler since zilean is the strongest when there's someone he can keep buffing and get them to engage, the stronger they are the better

His r tho...

@@flameofmage1099 Worse* his old passive was gigabroken just not a satisfying level for both people playing him and those going against him, now it's just shit all around.

@@danello9091 I mean better in terms of design

The funny part is that even with 70% movespeed boost i still have to deal with teammates running from me and dying

I prefer her old one where she would heal more based on allys missing health. (Broken but like it made more sense.)

Omg when I play supp , I hate when this happens !

in the eyes of design, they are equivalent, besides, the weakest ability probably isn’t an interesting video

No, we aren’t riot or lol might have some balance

Nah, I think it works pretty well on his kit, if he had any other abilitie on W, Riot will give him some passive healing and that would be worst

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agreed, some of these choices is just the one annoying or broken abillity and not the worst designed, i was really sad to see gnars q instead of his w 3hit passive or e dash thats like half a screen

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Yes, it would be very nice if he split it by role and give us more thought on why that ability is bad

yea aphel got done dirty

yep hes very confusing logic doesnt help

Yeah I like how he puts Lulu on W tier when it is her best ability but also the most annoying

His W we dont even need to talk about. Maybe its just the numbers because in theory its fine for a diver but compared to say Renek Q or darius Q it just doesnt compete in terms of protection against multiple people. His E,Q dash i still think is quite interesting but giving him and allies attack speed? As a tanky diver with a passive that literally goes against it by having a cooldown per enemy. Feels wasted imo

All his basic abilities look like they're 1 cuz each one of them does SO LITTLE that just only good when combined together.

@@ADoomain his abilities synergize well with eachother but e an w on their own dont fit his role

Jarvan legitimately only has one ability, he dashes at a target and knocks up anyone on his path while getting attack speed. W is so irrelevant it might as well not exist. cool, I got 2% HP shield. basically a rune as an ability.

@@itsyourguyskye yea i agree that they do synergise its just that his W numbers are so low. And the fact that of all the 'extra' bonus effect of his ability is an attack speed buff for a tanky diver is just so odd

That's because some champions don't have a "bad ability" when compared to some of the older champions. Case and point: Yone. So you instead have to go with what's absurd.

@@muizzkazi5432 On a bad designed list (which this is), Yone E would easily be the pick. On old champs, he still went for bad design (see Malph Q being opposite of his engage gameplay), but Gnar Q is well designed.

@@oneofthe12sionmains70 But most of the time he trashed on champions because of his experience playing against them

@@oneofthe12sionmains70 i will never understand why he didnt choose the 3 hit passive instead of a fun to use skillshot with multiple uses (throw backwards and dont catch to increase range)

@@oneofthe12sionmains70 if we're going by ability power, Yone's W is practically useless outside of trading in early laning. I honestly like Yone's E and I don't really understand the hate it gets, it has the skill expression of using its dash to dodge abilities and the movement speed he gets is kind of annoying on some champs, but then again, Yasuo E? Irelia Q? Zed W? Fizz E? Pyke W/E your pick? Katarina E? Kassadin ult? Ekko E? all of these practically do the same thing but can also be used to run away. Yone is the most comfortable one out of these to play against. as an immobile character don't walk up when he has empowered Q and that's about it

Right? And it’s not even a lot of healing and costs a lot of mana

@@ToasteBlade In fact, that sounds like the reason is her worst ability. It could maybe heal or shield a bit more or reduce his mana cost a bit to not get oom with 3 w.

I’m blown away it’s not her e. Like yea it’s an aeo speed buff, but like upgrading it increases the speed by 1%! Like what the actual fuck

also her w gives a shield and her w empowered passive is literally so gamebreakingly good idk what he was thinking. i would say sona fits the no bad abilities tier.

@@cherryjubilee6941 her e speed boost increases by 1% speed every time you level it up. 1%. That’s it

Nah hes perfect

I thought Rammus was ok. nothing much and I felt like Riot only reworked his ult to make it flashier

tenk need engage imagine Leona without her e or nautilus without his q

@@savosavic1222 Rammus with 2000 ms go bbbbbrrrrrr

@@Duothimir if u build need for speed ramus I'm saying about normal ramus

It's so weird that she was released around the time as obnoxious Champs like Sylas and Pyke

I wish it just wouldn't break so easily :(

I seen Neekos break people's brain with her passive. It's most useful when she is jungling and pretending to be a roaming sup or laner

@@longforari funny thing is sylas woulda been fine as is just adjust he’s numbers and nerf the ult a little but now he’s a burst mage assassin Like all the rest because of people screaming opppppp when I’m practice he wasn’t bad because he’s damage was mostly on he’s q now it’s on everything and he can’t tank one ability from new champs he’s a terrible champ now cus people over blew how strong he was

Neeko is STILL toxic he can harass you from behind your own minions easily and so much team fight potiential she has superfluous abilities but other wise annoying

and its not like its a hard question, her ult is literally just one of her basic abillities with more damage. not even longer root or anything like karmas very similar ult

He clarified multiple times that its design. That can take the form of either being too good, too bad, or lazy.

@@18ncarbonara and lb W is her best designed ability, its literally her whole identity

@@18ncarbonara thats just a vague thing to say, ''yeah this ability isnt well made cause its just too good'' like? wheres the logic exactly, her w is her entire kit basically, he said kindread r is bad like???? wheres the logic

@@opportunity3278 So I'm not saying I agree with all his takes, however I do think his logic is mostly consistent. "Too good" really means too much of a champions power budget exists in this ability. For instance Pyke R. Having a Champions kit revolve around a single ability is really unfun to play against. I actually like Kindred's R, but if you watch a lot of Var's videos, he has pretty strong convictions about characters abiding by their class archetypes which Kindred R obviously does not. Again I don't agree with that take of his, but I wasn't surprised at all to see that.

Yeah cant agree here, but her problematic ability is her w.

@@MrKatzenminze ??? Problematic would be tristanas passive. Ashes w is telegraphed and easy to sidestep behind minions. I just gives her the ability to proc her passive on multiple targets

@@MrKatzenminze I don’t see how it is problematic on summoners rift. On Aram it has to be the worst ability

yeah for sure, every other champ in the game has to track the enemy jungler to know what they can't and cannot do, and ashe can just reveal one half of the jungle off cooldown, really interactive and cool

@@plasmodius9449 information is king when you know what to do with it. Hopefully your teammates know how to use it

Agreed

Dosnt it apply her passive thing so she can melt u with e yea that shit is too broken if im right

@@Offisian it appies it al long as you are in it. Not like her q that applies the extra burn and lasts longer

I agree, the video started good by choosing abilities that didn't synergize or stayed behind compared to the other abilities, but then started getting into "This ability is just unfair" which would fit more the theme of a "Most hated/broken abilities for each champion" instead

So it is badly designed as it completely fucks over few champions while being usefull against everybody else regardless. I remind you that miasma still slows, so you can either chase or block of that mage or adc you mentioned, while also empowering Cassio's E reducing enemy's outplay potential (dodging just Q isn't enough).

It also kinda feels like it needs to be there for him to be able to more safely be the "wandering caretaker" tho

snow bard skin is the goat

Trust me, Veigar's R is the shittiest abilities in his Kit It is the worst for different reason, it doesn't work Passive is gold cheat, Q is reliable damage, W provide the needed damage and works well when being chase, E is one of the best basic ability his R execute just sucks you have to be really fed to be able to do Q R one shot, like if you give the gold needed to make it happen to Zed, he can probably just R auto E to kill you, it's so bad and once you reached late game you kill people by E>W>Q, you don't even need R R on tanks is useless and squishy died before needing ult The defining characteristic of his ult, the execute is completely redundant. R maxes damage out at 33.3%, if you deal 66.67% damage with just Q+W, why would he need double damage for his R? the target will still died even without this bonus damage Other R execute champs like evelynn gets away with it because they have utility Other champs have good execute because it isn't on their fucking ultimate it is such a baffling decision on why they gave this to Veigar

@@326inminecraft you sound a bit bad. Veigar's ult is so good cuz you don't need to hit it, they can dodge one of your abilities but there's no way to dodge the ult. when playing against Veigar his ult is by far his most annoying part, if you're below 40% HP you're effectively dead and he doesn't even need to land anything. at least Syndra needs to have some balls on the ground.

@@326inminecraft i mean.....veigar r is one of his strongest abilities alongside his e, its free damage that u cannot avoid for 99% of champs. his w is an easily missed ability without his e his q is really short ranged and is for farming mostly. so

literally what I was thinking the entire time. my jaw dropped when i heard daisy

problem is that daisy can get smited. lvl 6 Daisy is literally a smite+2aa-s/1ability, makes her feel kinda useless

great essay that everybody asked for ww player number 20000394893

I wouldn't say it's a bad ability if it had like 20 second cooldown. But HOLY it has 120 - 60 seconds cooldown. That's a cooldown of R on BASIC GODDAMN ABILITY, which is bugged as fuck.

​@@kimjongun2637 no need to read 😎

@@walkelftexasranger technically it’s 40-20 if there is no blood trail on the map (ticks down 3sec). But good luck with that.

Warwick W only feels bad because tis always fucking bugged bro. if it ever worked as intended it feel smooth AF

Damn bro i think it took you a while to write this comment, here's a like

@@Taran_MVP Thanks, but looking back I think I even missed a few. Its hard to tell because he spends half the video complaining. Really wish he'd just stick to analysis, if I wanted to hear someone whine about broken champions I'd just hop into ranked queue

I agree with you for Vars to make more of this type of content between his “serious” uploads, it’s just fun to watch, I like to see him explaining why he chose that ability and give us context for that choice, makes you ponder about what is good, bad, toxic or filler for the game

Yeah but as said in the video you could change it by anything else and it won't matter that much and about jubgle aatrox they can just buff the damage of Q on monsters and he will be meta

@@GORK3411 you could, but in my experience, it brings the *major* importance of the sword more front and center with a simple but powerful thrust, one which takes the flesh it slices to regenerate the darkin. It's a great part of his kit that fits into Aatrox's story nicely

Aatrox W is his weakest ability for sure, though if you can pull it off it's cool

@@GORK3411 no you cant he heals the most from his passive auto attack from my expirence playing him

Qiyana gets the same passive on her W for free where she gets ms near walls (also in the river and brushes. So everywhere) AND she can use it in fights. She still gets a primary passive that’s useful in a fight. It makes no sense that a champion’s secondary passive is objectively better that another champion’s primary passive. Taliyah’s passive could be better

Thats just less interactive. You realise they made Xerath autoattack for mana because they didnt want him to hang back at 1000units range without any windows for counterplay.

Mana surge is good in early game due to his large mana cost and the need to poke alot. And if your passive would've been implemented, it probably would've been useless at any point of the game. In early game you can't regen alot of mana making your pokes scarce. And in the late game, where your passive supposedly would've been useful, Xerath would've finished his luden's, or liandry's, both of them giving alot of mana. This passive is a bad idea. It's bad on every stage of the game, when theres a big fight happening and it doesn't end in 20 seconds, and you lose mana, you're much better auto attacking atleast so you can use your Q once or twice. But when you turn into the sarcophagus, you're leaving your team at a large disadvantage because the fight turns into a 4v5. It's better to stay in the fight and auto attack to get your Q faster, than to leave your team for a long time so you can use more of your abilities later

As an enchanter main myself I agree. Enchanters from the head start have a bit undervealming or just simple abilities. Yeah, heal won't be a skill shot since it makes your job of positioning and carefully and constantly prioritizing an ally just a nightmare. No Yasuo, I won't flash to try and heal you with my skillshot that you will either dodge with E or block with W.

@@kurcina0 ? u cant block your own allies abilities

@@opportunity3278 true but he can still dodge it with E or flash. If it were a skillshot anyway. I can't tell you how many times allies have sidestepped my Lux W's 😡

@@opportunity3278 I am aware, I'm meming it, but you know how you can be flamed as a support when you don't do everything to save an ally, even when your abilities are on CD or you don't have mana...

Yeah I was really surprised he didn’t say that. I think he was too in a rush by the end.

Urgot's ult synergizes with his kit really well and reducing it down to "Skillshot execute" is reductive. You use it at range extremely rarely, and it's at its strongest when you're in the middle of the teamfight fight which suits where he wants to be, with its AOE fear making it an amazing teamfighting ability, while you need to stay alive during the pull in the middle of the enemy team. And it's also a slow since urgot's biggest struggle is his mobility, half the time an urgot IS actually using it at range, it's not for the execute, it's just for the slow to hit E. And the ult is mainly used after you hit E so the slow also lets you rotate around someone to get his shotgun knees off. If you replace urgot's ult with anything else, urgot becomes a far less interesting champion even if you replace it with something stronger. It's also the ability most in tune with his lore because it's the aspect of his kit that draws on urgot deifying survival. Someone has to survive those 4 seconds to pass his test and prove they can survive. The "Impressive" Voiceline alone when someone survives does so much for his personality. It's the perfect ability, mixing in risk and reward to make a multi-tool of an ult to compliment his kit which people only recognize as "Oh, 30% execute. Yawn." Despite there being plenty of other ults that while they may not be executes can do over 30% of your HP quicker and usually more point and click. I'll defend urgot's ult anyday. It takes skill to use it to full effect and you'll see a massive difference in how a bad urgot uses it compared to a good one. Compared to an actually badly designed ult like a Garen ult. Which is just a point and click remove HP.

@@ME-ee8vg while all ur points are valid and i didn't know it feared (mb) i still think compared to the rest of his kit it's a bit worse but now I'm having doubts. What would u choose to be his worst ability?

@@orange1890 If I had to choose one, it'd probably be Q. It's too mana hungry early game with mediocre damage so it's completely unremarkable as a poking tool and it may as well have no damage at all lategame. The entire purpose in urgot's kit is to slightly slow someone so you can get close enough for E. And sure it's nice to have, it just doesn't work if anyone you're fighting has any mobility or common sense at all. A slight slow and running at someone makes you predictable. It just opens you up to outplays or dodging your E. You're never really advised to go for using it to run someone down unless you're already ahead. For any slightly even matchup, you want to use flash to hit your E to give as little time to react as possible because if you miss it you die. The most useful thing it has, is it's pretty good at securing cannons because W toggle is unreliable for csing.

@@ME-ee8vg makes sense, I'll change it

You forgot the 4th wave ultimate champion : Maokai ^^

Really makes zero sense for her and is easily her worst ability. Could have done something way more creative! Makes farming slightly nicer but that's it

It is cool, but nowadays it would be turned into a secondary passive while he has an op passive that idk, revive everyone as mobile soldiers or some weird shit

@@tales-kun9025 his passive gave him as from cdr so he had two passives before.

he has done this before just on a lower scale

@@opportunity3278 maybe it was just me, but i just couldnt keep up with him lol

her AP build abuses the W

Good points!

A few more, tho these aren't champs I play as much (or I don't play them but I have friends who frequently do, so I've played with them a lot). I'm sort of imagining this as a gamemode where the player has to pick one ability to be removed from the champion but otherwise everything else remains the same. Rell - Q, it's biggest point is to destroy shields which can be really useful against champs like Sett, but overall, it does less damage than her auto attacks and heals, like, 20 HP. It is quite useless outside of specific match-ups. Teemo - Passive, it's awkward to use and is only really effective within fog of war, but if your enemy predicts it, you have just wasted a bunch of time for no reason. The benefits are also not particularly insane. It's an AS buff. Zillean - Passive, it doesn't activate that often, doesn't synergize with his kit, and functionally doesn't exist late-game. It can still be a huge boost early-game due to getting people to their level 6 faster. Shaco - E maybe? His passive isn't very useful on paper, but his kit is designed around it and it makes running away from him challenging. His Q, W, and Ult are all very powerful abilities, while his E is just point and click damage. Ranged damage and an execute, so not useless, but it's got less applications than the rest of his kit. Samira - passive, imagine if Samira didn't have to build up style to use her ult lol. I was gonna say Q because it's a neutral ability and a skillshot required to build up her passive to use ult, but then I realized "wait, what if she just didn't have to build up her passive to use ult?" Like, Samira's passive is definitely one of those abilities that exists to give the champion a drawback to properly balance her. Zoe - W, it's not part of her normal burst combo unless she gets certain powers determined by RNG. The reposition can be nice and it prevents enemies from flashing away from her, but the ability would be way stronger on a skirmisher than a burst mage. Senna - E, it's not necessarily useless, but the MS scales solely AP and isn't super significant. It also provides minimal combat pressure due to the long start-up time. For an ability that spreads some category of stealth to her teammates, it's surprisingly weak. Taric - Q. His Q has a long cooldown, takes up a bunch of mana, and does very little healing unless fully stacked. You can't get high stacks on it until you're high enough level, so it's a weak lane sustain tool. Stacking Q faster requires you to auto attack enemy champions, but you are a melee champion with no gap closers in a lane that typically fields one to two ranged opponents, so the juggernaut method of walk up and smack them really doesn't work here. The closest thing you have to compensation is a small AoE delayed straight-line skill-shot, which is also outranged by your average lane opponent. In a teamfight, Taric gets exploded too quickly to stack and effectively use his Q if he takes the smack approach. Compared to every other heal ability in the game, Taric definitely has the hardest one to use. Taric's W would be here for being a pathetically small shield due to being %max health with the problem being that his target demographic, the marksman, has a small HP pool, but it's also a tether ability that spreads the range of his Q, E, and Ult, so it's still valuable. He's definitely a champion balanced around having one absurd ability tho. So the rest of his kit is low impact while his entire kit is just difficult to use effectively. Braum - I'd elect his W maybe. It's a good reposition tool and provides buffs to defenses, but he's a case where his entire kit is very powerful so something has to be last. Passive is really good for supporting allies with sustained or backloaded damage. Braum/Ashe is particularly mean because of Braum's passive combined with Ashe's slows. It can still be good for some frontloaded damage characters if they're characters who run stuff like Hail of Blades. Q lets him apply his passive without having to get into melee range. E is a mobile Yasuo Windwall, which is extremely valuable in a lane that will always have at least one ranged attacker, and his ult is his only real engage tool, which can also be used for disengage if needed. His ult is also extremely good in teamfights. So W is in last place because Braum isn't a major beneficiary of mobility and his E provides similar stat buffs while (ideally) blocking your ally from any damage. His W is still extremely useful tho. It's just I think Braum would have the best chance to survive without it. Bard - E. All of Bard's abilities are good. The reason why I listed E as his weakest is because even though it effectively gives every champion a dash and jungle mobility, it's heavily telegraphed and as an infinite value ability, can be misused. That said, worth mentioning that his ult is capable of single-handedly losing games when used badly enough, but his ult also can single-handedly win games, so it evens out. Kinda. His Q is worth mentioning due to being a conditional CC ability and a low-range skillshot, which makes it less reliable than most other straight-line skillshots, but it's a good source of damage and stun's are pretty valuable CC. The reason W isn't here instead of E is that his W gives Bard lane presence even when he's off roaming. Basically, his W is a decent source of sustain and disengage while he's fucking off in the jungle. It can be fucked up by teammates just refusing to play around it or reacting to your W in the worst ways humanly possible, but it's a powerful ability regardless. I might be undervaluing his E, but the way I see it, his Q and W exist to enable his roams while his E is a strong ability to supplement them (and his ult can win games so throwing it in the garbage would be a big no). His passive also is needed to enable his playstyle and give him the scaling he needs to keep up with his fellow supports. Sona - Ult. Sona's ult is her best play-making ability, but her kit is designed more around her buffing her allies than playmaking. There are also just better sources of stuns than her ult and it just isn't the reason someone would choose to pick up this champion. As far as direct power goes, Q is a really good laning tool. Without it, Sona would basically be dead weight during the laning phase, which is unacceptable for a support. Her W is a team-wide heal that also gives her empowered auto the ability to weaken enemy autos, which is good for skirmishes, trades involving the adcs, or all-ins. Her E's MS buff and empowered auto slowing is good for both disengage and chasing enemies. While her ult can cover stuff that her E covers, I'll point out that all of her basic abilities contribute to her passive and that basic abilities are going to be available more often than ults. Really the main reason I picked her ult was because her ult just isn't the reason anyone plays her. Tristanna - Q. Tristanna's playstyle is all about being a very bursty adc with a lot of disengage and can also blow up towers quickly. Her AS buff does contribute to this goal, but I don't think Tristanna's playstyle takes advantage of the AS buff as well as other adcs benefit from that sort of thing. Besides that, I'd consider her other abilities too critical for her playstyle to ignore. The reason her passive isn't here is because the passive extends the range of her E. I feel like her passive and E passive probably should be swapped since her E passive looks more like an actual passive while her actual passive looks like an ability-specific passive, but whatever. Rakan - Q. His Q isn't unusable, but it is his lowest impact ability. It's a heal that's also a damage skillshot, but it's very low range, doesn't do a lot of damage, and doesn't heal for a ton. Compare that to his massive engage, powerful ult, passive shield (enabling the engage), and two ally dashes attached to a shield. His Q is just not where his power budget is. I will give it a shout out for proccing on Dragon, which means he is useful for early objectives and for proccing on Neeko and Shaco clone, which can be nice. Overall, it's still a low impact ability that isn't necessary for his kit to function. Veigar - W. It doesn't contribute to his stacking and is difficult to hit with minimal methods of set-up. Lee Sin - Ult. Insec is fun and fuels the lifeblood of the Lee Sin population, but it's also his most situational ability. It's his his one disengage tool and it's a really flexible ability, so it's by no means bad, it's just that he's a really early game ganking jungler, so he can't exactly afford to give up his main damage rotation. He also needs his W for early clears and the shield+lifesteal definitely isn't useless for his combat pressure. So that's why I'd cut his ult if pressed. Also, I wanna point out that Lee Sin's W would be one of the best shielding abilities available if it didn't scale solely AP on an AD champion. Just saying, most enchanters would probably kill for a manaless shield with 80% AP scaling attached to an ally dash and the ability to recast to half its cooldown. Not relevant to this discussion, but I had to mention it. (Bonus) Aphelios - E. "Aphelios has no third ability. This slot shows the next weapon Alune will give him. Weapon order begins fixed but may change over game time - when a weapon is out of ammo it goes to the end of the order." - League of Legends explaining what Aphelios's E does.

Okay, and using your criteria for worst designed abilities rather than the weakest, I'll go over my mains again. Kalista - ult. Her ult is the reason I picked up the champion and it's my favorite ability in the game, but it's also arguably her worst thought out ability. Instead of having an ult, she gives her support a Malphite Ult except it has a longer CC duration at max rank (Malph ult is 1.5 seconds at all ranks while Kalista ult is 1/1.5/2 seconds of knock-up) and is attached to a cleanse with upwards of 5 seconds of untargetability and invulnerability. Abilities that screw with the innate properties of your allies are going to be slippery to design because of how important synergies are. I already talked about Rell/Kalista being ungodly because Kalista's ult removes Rell's weaknesses as a champion. But here's a lightning round of other bullshit certain supports can get up to with Kalista's ult: Morgana's ult requires her to remain tethered for 3 seconds to activate, Kalista Ult > Morgana Ult at max rank means that Morgana will have 2 of those 3 seconds covered for free. Against mutliple people that gives them a third as much time as they otherwise would have had to respond, and against a single person, at level 6, you're looking at 1.5 seconds of knock-up comboed into a 2.5 second root potentially comboed again into the full effect of Morganna's ult (which has a 1.5 second stun and 300 + 140% AP damage at rank 1). At max rank, you'd be looking at a 2 second knock-up + 3 second root + 1.5 second stun plus 600 + 140% AP magic damage that you wouldn't be able to prevent given the first ability lands. A major Thresh Combo is E + Q, but after getting ult he has a different combo of E + ult, but you can't exactly go E + Q + ult + E, luckily Kalista's ult combos into all of Thresh's abilities as well as combining with his lantern to give both of them the ability to dash across the entire lane if necessary, which is a really powerful disengage tool. With Soraka, I had one moment where we got ganked by a Kayn who focused the Soraka to prevent her to from healing Kalista, but when Kayn ulted Soraka, I used Kalista ult to cancel out Kayn's ult due to the untargetability and Soraka was able to clap back with a Malphite ult, which resulted in me getting a double kill despite being over-extended and on low health. Effectively we put Kayn in a catch-22 scenario where targetting the adc would result in me getting out-healed while targetting the support would result in them getting a free zhonyas and a malphite ult. With champs like Taric and Braum, they're balanced around lacking gap closers, so giving them a massive dash also breaks their balance. Kalista effectively just adds years of game design experience to her support. If I was playing literally any other adc, me and my support would have both died to that gank. But there's a massive double edge to this ability. If your support doesn't know how to play around Kalista or otherwise just sucks in general, Kalista's combat pressure is effectively cut in half because Kalista goes from having the most broken ult in the game to having literally no ult. There's nothing you can do if your tethered ally decides to quarantine you, waits out the ult timer because they don't know how to activate it, proceeds to have the worst possible accuracy on the ult despite it having a really generous hitbox, takes too long to figure out how to use the ult and therefore misses the opportunity, they're playing something like Yuumi who somehow manages to not (or at least barely) benefit from additional untargetability + malphite ult, or they immediately and consistently ult in the opposite direction you wanted them to. Any of these scenarios are pretty common when playing Kalista in soloq. As a result, the ability is pretty much broken OP when you're in a premade but completely useless in soloq. Azir - E. Zone control mages (and also Gangplank) are typically designed around the idea that the battle is reaching them in the first place. Azir in particular uses untargetable minions that he can reposition as needed. The thing with Azir's E is that it's a dash that can have the reach of the entire mid-lane, making the task of getting on top of him through his sand soldiers go from difficult to actually impossible. Alongside that, his E can be used as a strong engage tool and to set up an insec. The ability is just extremely powerful and the flexibility it affords this champion in conjunction with the rest of his kit is the primary reason why Azir is such a balance nightmare. Like, imagine if Heimerdinger or Gangplank could dash to any of their turrets/barrels regardless of range. That would also make the champion unfightable. Thresh - Ult. I argued that his passive doesn't synergize with his kit, but I wouldn't say that the ability shouldn't be there. Think of it like Archeops from Pokemon. Worth noting that Pokemon isn't balanced like League is, so Archeops isn't meant to be as powerful as actual top tiers (and Archeops is a more extreme example than Thresh). If Archeops didn't have its ability, you'd effectively be staring down a pokemon with attack and speed stats almost as high as Mega Salamence, with a better offensive typing, access to really powerful attacks like Stone Edge and Acrobatics, and it's available level 37 rather than level 50. Thresh is in a similar position but it's less extreme. His Q is the most flexible hook in the game, his W gives his allies a long-ranged dash which acts as both an incredible engage and disengage tool (also, unlike Kalista's ult, basically every champion in the game can use it effectively but there's no champion where this ability destroys their balancing factors), and his E makes landing his hook easier in exchange for having lower range than hook. He's a roaming heavy support that when played optimally can snowball his adc, mid, and jungler while never really having a point in the game where he's weak, even when he gets behind. If he were allowed to roam unchecked, this is exactly what would happen, which is why his passive exists. As far as actively detrimental abilities go, I do think Thresh's is really well designed because it doesn't even initially look like a detriment and there are situations where his passive is helpful, particularly really long drawn-out games and when the enemy team is mostly AD. I also like that it's detrimental for a more subtle way than these types of abilities directly are because his passive fucks with his game plan by being in direct opposition to his goals. Basically, Thresh has a scaling passive that requires him to spend a lot of time in lane but he's a roaming champion. The reason why I'd say his ult is the worst design ability isn't because it's poorly designed per say, but I think his ult is can be a little clunky to use but is still extremely powerful. If Thresh had a weak ult, that would give him room to have a stronger passive, but his ult isn't weak. It's just as flexible as the rest of his kit and that's what makes it powerful. Basically, I think Thresh's ult is very powerful but he has a kit where if I had to make one major change to his kit, I'd allocate power budge away from his ult in order to have a non-detrimental passive. I'd also just consider his ult to be kinda okay. I guess I could list his E too for the same reason, but I want to defend his passive since it has a good reason to be the way it is.

I can understand all of these takes except for your first Kalista take. Q is really useful for combos and burst damage because without it you can't double rend. I'd 100% say your second point on Kalista is better though. Her R has a niche use-case where if you're playing with an Enchanter support you either lose access to you're R so you can get your W passive, or you lose access to your W passive so you can put it onto a teammate that can benefit from the R more. Obviously there are exceptions like Morgana as you said. This is why we in the Kalista player-base try getting tank supports like Alistar, Rell, or Leona lol. Still though I good takes all around!

"Reminder: Each champions 'worst' ability is based on the context of their kit and its design, not if it's useless or underpowered" Except when it's too strong and you don't like fighting it lmao. There was a pretty long segment around that exact time where it's like you forgot that this is the champions worst ability, and just went with the abilities you liked the least. Gangplank, Graves, Gwen, Gragas.

Illaoi E is a cancerous ability. Its so horribly designed and is the sole reason she is hated even if she sucks. It deserves its place.

it’s just a fun video as he said, idk why all the comments are taking it so seriously. cry if ur fav creator decided to release a fun video once in a while

Why his e and not his passive? His e is the worst part of the kit

@@tales-kun9025 Akshan's E is practically the only reason to play him?

Swain W purpose is not hitting someone, it is a tool for blocking enemy's path and giving vision from a far distance

Rell's Q also destroys shields, get fucked Sett.

Design

totally agree was kinda hard watching trough it and hearing the awkward explanations

That would make her avoid tanks like the plague tho, and probably cause loads of bugs with executes

@@PremPnamNam true but it'd also make the Yuumi player have to think about who to attach to instead of always going for the carry

Passives on items are more useful than his w. Teemo is really outdated overall since he is useless against almost all champs.

If i had to choose it would be his r

literally! at least teemo w is useful for him, but jarvan could just not have his w and it'd barely make a difference

@@itsyourguyskye ori's passive too

respec for not just watching first then posting comment but u kinda just gave an example on why his passive is good. It gives him lane sustain AND has counterplay in that it can be cancelled with proper poke. Counterplay with high rewards (infinite sustain) are well designed abilities.

To be fair, he seems pretty inconsistent with what he considers "bad". Some are "Bad to play against", some are "Bad for design", and others are "bad in practice". All of which mean very different things.

tbh, I agree its his ult that is bad out of the entire kit simply cuz its on Garen. Any other champ would abuse this EXTREMELY hard but for Garen, its somehow just alright (Can vouch, Season 6-12 Garen Main. Been here for both his highs and lows)

All of his ability were design for that stupid passive

@@xuanbachtrinh6578 It's sad that are they removing his stars for his rework since it was a pretty iconic part of his a kit but at the same time, this abiltiy is so trash.

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