As the viewer who lent you that board it was an amazing video but there are a couple of remarks I'll like to do about the setup: 1. Windows 10 works on the board, I was able to install it and use it with no problem on the board and without changing anything on the bios. 2. The GPUs have dual GPU cores and a SLI chip on the board, so it is like any other GPU as the GPUs are joined in the board and they work on non sli setups, you just need SLI if you want to use 2 of those dual GTX 760 cards. 3. The green flickering happens because of the output GPU as you said, just plug it into another output and it will work fine, same with the sli performance and stability, it is not easy to make it work but it does. I actually included some information about that with the setup.

My father was an electrical engineer for AMD at that time and he agrees 110% with you, and says it wasn't his most proud product hes produced... yea he helped design and make that and thinks its garbage...

One of my old coworkers bought this platform (FX-72) in 2007 while I was piecing together my Q6600 system. I think he ended up spending almost double what I did, and with AMD being quite competitive in those times, we both had very high expectations and were looking forward to comparing performance. I ended up having good luck with silicon lottery and my Q6600 could run 3.9GHz stable, and I had it paired with some fast Micron D9 DDR2. I cannot overstate just how much faster my Q6600 build was versus his FX-72 build, I actually felt bad for him, because it was a slaughter.

It would be interesting to see a comparison video showing both AMD's and Intel's failures over the years and how they were able to improve over time. Heck, go all the way back to the 90's when the AMD K6 was introduced as a starting point. Now that's nostalgia.

For those who are confused, this is not the FX line of CPUs of that launched in 2011 on the bulldozer architecture, those were completely different and shared a floating point unit between every two cores which led to lawsuits for false advertising later because they really weren't true eight cores, and their performance reflected that

The power consumption of Quad FX is brutal

16:05 Reason why the already installed nvidia drivers for the gtx760 didn't work with the rtx3060 is beacuse at least for win7, the driver support is divided between gtx10 series (and older) and the rtx20 series (and newer). So it would be correct that the 3060 needs different drivers.

I super appreciate those seizure warnings. Luckily I never got one before, but I do get some pretty bad headaches from rapid flashing lights etc. Thanks, editing team!

I remember "upgrading" from a Core 2 Duo E6600 system to an FX 8350 system, and if it weren't for the actual upgrade from an 8800 GTS 320MB to a GTX 760, I honestly felt like my PC barely got any better, certainly not to an extent that I was expecting going from 2 cores to 8 cores. I recall CS:GO struggling hard, meanwhile watching older Intel i5s that ran it better than my system with the same GPU... Then I switched to an i7-4790k with the same GPU and RAM (I think? pretty sure they were both DDR3) and man, CS:GO FPS tripled and other games easily saw a 25 - 50% boost. That CPU was SO BAD. I gave it to my step dad, he had a "better" use-case for it, with video rendering/editing, rather than gaming, but he still complained of system instability and it feeling slow, even when we got him an SSD to install Windows and programs onto. It is hard to find game benchmarks comparing an e6600 to an fx 8350, but one I found did Valorant on a 750 Ti for both... the 8350 got 35 FPS @ 1080p.. the e6600 for six years prior with 6 fewer cores? It got 23 FPS. Obviously both are brutal, the 750 Ti isn't even all that good in comparison to the 760 I wound up with, but still.. I expected so much more after waiting so long to upgrade, and its performance in Windows and programs was just soooo bad and sluggish, especially compared with the 4790k. Night and day differences. I am back to AMD now though. Went from a 4790k to a R5 3600X, then I went to a 5600X and now a 5800X3D all on the same X570 motherboard. That i7 was great though. I had it paired with a 760, a 980, a 1080, and a 1080 Ti. Now running 3070 Ti with my 5800X3D, never been happier with my PC, I run 1080p high refresh rate, and it feels like this PC could last me another 3 - 4 years at least honestly. Not worried about the 8GB VRAM, it hasn't stopped me from running any games at 1080p with RT yet, and DLSS means no worries honestly as I've only had to use that in a couple games at Quality setting so far, so going to Balanced/Performance is still an option down the line if needed, or turn off RT in some titles, or turn down a couple settings I don't value much. The thing with my current set up that I like so much though is how flippin stable it is. I *never* blue screen, games never crash, everything just works perfectly. Haven't had this level of stability from a system probably ever. It has been 1.5 years since I reformatted/reinstalled windows even and it is still just smoooooth.

2006 was a time when it was better to have a fast dual core for gaming than a quad core. The problem at that time was that many games could only use a single thread. A frequently used gaming CPU at this time was a core2duo E6700, which was much faster for gaming than, for example, a core2quad Q6600. The AMD fanbase at the time was using the Athlon X2 6000+, but this CPU was a bit slower than the E6700.

As someone who owned one of these. The biggest issues with the benchmarks from the day is they were done on Windows XP, since Windows Vista hadn't yet released by the time this came out. I ran Vista and 7 on the board and actually had much better numbers than reviewers did. But this setup wasn't really consumer ready, but was neat.

Anyone remember the ASUS MARS GTX 295? 2x GTX 285 spec chips with 4 GB VRAM versus 2 x GTX 280 spec chips with 1792 MB. That thing was a beast back then! A very expensive one I could never afford though.

My first home built desktop was with the FX6300... While it wasn't great at productivity stuff, it held up to High/Ultra 1080p gaming until about 2015/2016. That little chip means something to me. Surely not because it was great, but it was definitely serviceable and was my first time seating a CPU.

Ah yes, the Quad-Father. I would have killed for this back in the mid 2k's. It was pretty much a hamfisted attempt at catching up to intel's core2 quads.

I'd love to see a video where the challenge is to get 60fps in a handful of modern games using the oldest hardware possible, including OC and used parts! Good reference to see what still holds up

You could run those on non-SLI boards. That was the main gimmick of the dual-GPU cards... at least as far as I know? My newest one from nVIDIA is the GTX 690 so maybe it changed later.

Back In the late 90's, I had an Abit BP6 dual socket 370 Mainboard, with two Celeron 466 cpu's overclocked to 525 MHz. The only problem was that at the time the only SMP O/S available to me was Windows NT4 Workstation, which barely supported any games. But it was a very cool mobo at the time 🙂

The Vega VII didn't paper launch. It still is a beast for crypto mining comparable like a more efficient 3080. They were mostly bought out before reaching consumers. Have seen my fair share of Those fragile beasts

When my current PC was first built it came with an FX 8350. Compared to the previous PC's Phenom II 1055t, only BeamNG and Space Engineers saw any improvement at all and some applications even got worse outright with stability issues. I didn't hesitate to upgrade it to an R5 2600x the moment affordable Ryzen MBs started being sold in my area. The improvement was night and day. My GPU wasn't getting bottlenecked anymore to the point I was even able to upgrade my monitor setup. (There was a whole other can of worms after that, but it was more due to ASUS related shenanigans than a fault of the platform itself.)

I had dual Opteron 270 system for my gaming rig around that time and it did rip copying data on sata drives with two nforce 4 chipsets. It did make a difference against DDR2 dual cores at the time for some reason until quad cores from AMD came out.

You're forgetting about the Bulldozers, I took the risk of buying a "FIRST EVER 8 CORE DESKTOP CPU!" instead of that lame quad core 2600K from intel, boy did I pay for that, the FX-8120 I got overclocked all the way to 4.9GHZ on air but was still 30-40% slower than the Phenom II x4 955BE I upgraded from

That double cut shot under the table about his masochism was great, keep improving your skit making LTT crew it shows in the product!

I remember there being some really cool build back in the early 2000's that used multi GPU and multi CPU setups. I would really love a video about what people were doing back then with those.

I think you should have gone with the 7950GX2. I always dreamed of that card back in the day.

I remember the Pentium 4 days. One of my friends had the 3.0 Ghz and it was a pain to cool. I only had the 2.4 Ghz

I had a Athlon X2 black edition in an am2/am2+ asus board. Later upgraded to a phenom ×4 955 black edition. Used that for many years with a GTS 250. First gpu was 8500gt.

The 760 was the card I bought because I ditched SLI, finally recognizing that the fps counter was meaningless if it played like crap. Never thought someone would be making a dual gpu care in that era .. let alone buying one , let alone midrange cards :). I went with a 2x hd3870 (dual gpu in one card ) at the start , single hd4xxx series , hd5850, dual hd5850, dual gtx560ti. I finally leaned my lesson by then to just get a single card, no matter what .

I have a still functional system using the the non-ECC version of the board with the FX-74s (the PCIe slots are blue vs red), and I actually liked it overall. Yes it ran hot, but I had the thermaltake vortex coolers to handle that (which look pretty killer too i might add), and I later used liquid cooling specifically for the GPUs (nVidia Quadro 4000s, later upgraded to K4000s). It can actually play Doom 2016 at 720p on moderate-ish settings (deffs not 60fps, but playable). You can install Windows 10, and even Windows 11 if you remove the TPM requirement. WIndows 11 is pretty awful performance-wise though. I think the biggest killer was that the RAM slots and onboard devices were known for going bad or being bad from the factory. I remember on cold winter nights i would literally drape a blanket over me and it (at the foot of my chair) and just use the machine to keep me warm. lol.

You should do a video build with all the oldest computer components have in stock and compared to a new systemy

I have a MSI k8n master2-far with 2 opteron 280, and it is similar to the quad fx platforme. Really good on the paper (SLI, 12gb DDR400 ecc, 2*2core cpus, 2gigabit lan, on a e-atx form factor,...) but released in 2005... 1 year too last for it to be interesting.

Next up: one of those old (circa 2006) Tyan dual-core Opteron motherboards with 4 CPU sockets plus the Tyan M4881 daughterboard that adds an additional 4 sockets for a total of 8 CPU sockets and 16 CPU cores in one machine

9:52 bottom, right image 💀

i think it would perform a lot better with the dual cores 3ghz (4 cores effectively) and definitely dual channel ram and a 1060 at most

Hey Linus, you should make a mouse pad with a schematic of a GPU or CPU or generally pc parts on it, it would look so cool

That screen tearing edit was glorious! That editor needs a raise :D

I remember that era well. I was an AMD fanboy up to that point. Went from Athlons to an Opteron 170 as my first dial core CPU. But, yeah did AMD drop off a cliff fast. When, it was time for my next upgrade, I really had no choice but to switch to team blue and the stupidly good C2Q 6600, that thing was an overclocking beast!

Linus needs to try use a single core celeron lol... Then you'll feel the power of wasted silicon

Based on the performance charts.. I wonder how they even Marketed this Quad FX then since it was still not good? Did any applications use more threads back then? Some type of engineering program, for example?

I just had this running in the background while assembling a bike. I wasn't paying attention, but loved the throwing of Gary under the bus over a past CPU choice!

Amazing to see Opterons in the channel. I remember I was this close to buying a G34 socket server motherboard to get some of those cheap CPUs... But you can imagine why I didn't for it. It could've been incredible for server things, but Ryzen going more affordable and more reasonable (even Threadripper and Epyc) basically negates all purpose, unless I go "just for fun".

My old PC had an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor from 2012, and it honestly wasn’t all that bad. Yes, it ran very hot and really raised the temperature of my room, but it was snappy, great for gaming, and handled anything I threw at it. It still performs well today.

can u try making the most powerfull 2007- 2008 system?? would be interesting!

My 15 year old AMD PC the HP dc5850 was great. It had a AM2+ socket with a Phenom X3 and later a Phenom II X4 B97 (4x 3.2GHz); max 8GB of DDR2 (800MHz) and 2nd gen PCIe with a 128GB SSD on SATA-2. I used it till April 2019, when I replaced it with the 2nd slowest Ryzen ever (Ryzen 3 2200G), but still a huge improvement 2x the speed of the Phenom II X4. That 2008 HP dc5850 is still in use with a friend. I love the AM2+ and AM4 motherboards, they both supported at least 2 generations of CPUs.

I had an old crossfire setup with a pair of 290x 4gb cards on water, that I used until 2018. Once I took it down, one of the GPUs simply would not come back to life on it's own, it would recognize if I had it in a rig with the other one but it was totally DOA, no picture nothing, when it was in a rig by itself. When I had it as the primary GPU it would do that same thing with the flickering textures and other nasty problems, clearly it had some bad VRAM but also I think the output engine was broken because one of the outputs didn't work either. I had no idea anything was broken until after I took it apart lol

Hey Linus, i still use my Asus KCMA D-8 which uses a dual opteron 4130 setup with ddr3 ram and use it as a home server setup, A setup from 2009. I'm so glad you are enlightening the world about the world's best platform.

Even though it sucks, it sure is awesome. This is one of those things that you build today just out of pure fun, because you can. Multi GPU and CPU setups were absolutely a blast to play with back in the day. It usually wasn't practical, but it was a blast to tweak.

for sli to work properly you'd need an equal bandwidth pcie bridge aside from the motherboard one (16x bridge for 16x pcie connector).

9:57 this video was a month+ in the works... dam... [this was recorded when the "Custom 'YTX' gaming build" was first uploaded]

Please check into CPU latency ! From both team red and blue

The editing in this video should be the gold standard for LTT, they even impressed me with the quality of seizure warning. It is appricated when they warn people about loud sound or strobing lights.

I have a retrocomputer with one of those! I purchased it in 2017 for a celebratory bonus build in parallel to my TR 1950X build. I have a number of retrocomputers with... intentionally weird and questionable parts, including the infamous nvidia leafblower (FX 5800 ultra) and a 3dfx Voodoo 5500. The Voodoo 6000 and XGI Volari Duo both evade me sadly. ...I also have some systems with modern weird and questionable parts too, like a working system with Via/Centaur's last x86 cpu (the CHA/CNS chip) before Intel acquihired Centaur.

You guys should do a video about old school modding. The AMD K6? For example where with a silver pen you could re-connect the lines they cut on the die to create the cheaper CPU version. And get some GPU's as well where "Soft modding" was still a thing to unlock the under clocked GPU's because those failed yield testing and offered as cheaper versions. Those days are gone and sadly missed - fun times but would be good for us older techno bobs to enjoy and to enlighten the newer generations of the "good times"

my first computer was a dell optiplex 780 sff with a core 2 duo (unsure on model) then upgraded it to a core 2 quad q6600 and damn it went for what it was. great little computer and i got it for $30aud way back lol

(10:04) This video is recorded 1 month ago.

Retrospectives of components from that era always makes me want to look at old archived Maximum PC magazines.

I didn't recognize Gary till you mentioned ASUS, met him at HardOCP's Gaming Convention thingy. (Met Kyle Bennett too) both awesome guys! Also I still have an AMD FX-8350 + GTX 980 as a spare gaming rig. Also have a C2Q 9650 that runs a GTX 960 (before that it was a 560 Ti)

I remember the Mars 760's. I honestly almost bought one. Kinda wish I had now cause I collect dual GPU cards and finding them is incredibly difficult. I would have hated myself at the time, but I would have one now for my collection.

im honestly surprised and impressed AMD managed to crawl its way back as a competitor

Man these were the days though that overclocking WAS necessity out of the box. Where you'd instantly get 25% instant increase... it would be interesting but I don't know how safe to do with its age now.

13:58 props to the editor who put in the effect, subtle but nice.

my mom had this in her old pc, I grew up with it playing flash games on it 😆

Can unfortunately support his claim. That line of CPUs made me stay away from AMD until Ryzen gen 3. And I had the very setup he displays here. With custom watercooling. My god what a mess that was to get working and keep working...

I remember back in the day I had dual cere E6300 1.8ghz overclocked to rock solid 3.4ghz. good days.

I would suspect the Numa boundary on the RAM between the CPUs would also cause a tone of issues/slowdown.

I love the dual socket MB they just look cooler

I remember upgrading from an athlon xp to an Athlon 64 FX-74 and it was such an incredible upgrade. I also remember going into fry's and the sales rep trying to sell me on quad fx (or more like trying to sell my dad on buying me quad fx) . Glad that didn't happen lol

I'd love to see a video on how older components that would typically be used in a server build perform in a different environment such as gaming.

The thing with platforms like these is that they don't have a solid upgrade path which brings things to today with the Threadripper platforms. Essentially every generation of Threadripper. Sure the first generation got an upgrade from 16 core to 32 core max but they were the same Zen 1+ architecture. Then then was the TR4 socket for the Threadripper 3000 series which never saw a new chip released for them. Ditching the previous dead end socket for another dead end socket. Then there was the Threadripper Pro which added yet another socket to the Threadripper history but hooray it did provide a generational upgrade with some gotchas. The Threadripper Pro 3000s were mostly OEM only with off the shelve parts for DIY builders only appearing shortly before OEMs had access to the Threadripper Pro 5000s, thus making Threadripper Pro 3000 in the DIY area kind of rare: an upgrade path did exist for the dozen or so people who had one. While the consumer and server segments of AMDs line up got some 3D V-cache parts, Threadripper again was neglected. The saving grace for Threadripper Pro 3000 and 5000 is that the many DIY motherboards can also work with Epyc chips. One downside of being mostly an Epyc chip for Threadripper Pro is that they can be locked to an OEM platform, complicating the used market.

time for a best CPU EVER VIDEO

Like for the warning!

About https on old hardware. Old CPUs lack a feature that's found on all modern CPUs and that's AES hardware encode and decode. If you go to youtube on old hardware, then the CPU must do all the work to decode and encode the network traffic. That causes the CPU to max out and the video to struggle at the beginning. Other single cores and even some duo 2s would suffer from this problem but never fully recover because they can't catch up with encryption (just stay laggy and dropped frames). So really comes down to that hardware decoding and encoding that makes the modern web work! Imagine opening a website where the processor had to do all the work. It would be like starting up a program every time. Oh, that's kind of like what Linus experienced when doing so...

memory is hazy from that far back but I recall the intention with mid-range cards being able to SLI was that you could buy one now, and later on when you have more money buy another, or a 3rd, 4th, etc for theoretically increased performance without having to spend as much money up front on a single higher end card.

I miss SLI 😢 imagine what games could do running dual 4090ti's

The Quad FX looks like something out of a *fever nightmare*

Even in 2010 when I just entered PC gaming I never understood SLI for gaming

I used to rock a Athlon II X4- was always scared of the 95W TDP and the fact that my only working cooler was just extruded aluminum with a tiny 80mm fan.

I love these legacy hardware reviews!

That still powerful from my 10th gen i5 😀back in then, amd decided to put more but not so powerful cores into processors. İ guess they were like, ohhh mate if we add more cores it will be more powerful

With Ampere you probably need to download an older driver. I run turing where the latest driver doesn't install but the ones thats slightly older does. It is probably easier to get the "iCafe" version drivers working also, considering Windows 7 usage in chinese iCafe market.

I'm old, so I really love seeing you guys look at older "high end" stuff I could only dream about back when I was a kid 😂

Some more fire content from linus🔥🔥

I don’t think anyone would invest that much in old parts. That’s why LTT did it for us.

Could always try a Quad Opteron setup based on the Piledriver platform using socket G34. Can get Operon 6380's relatively cheap compared the next step up, the 6386.🤔

11:51 Gary looks like Linus’s disappointed father right here 😂

You need to review the older dual Celeron socket 370 rigs with an ABit BP6 motherboard, the days when Intel forgot to disable multi core support on their cheaper products.

9:20 wow, that was lowkey pretty beautiful

Anything pre Core is always going to be horrendous with any web stuff because of the "new" encryption pages are wrapped in thanks to non existent instruction sets.

I did play with the green flickering for some time. I had a Radeon 240, I think. To run games like GTA 5 at 30 fps, I overclocked it to the point that it shouldn't have worked. To fix it, I had to tinker with bios settings. I have no clue what I did 7 years ago, but I broke it a year later.

I built a Netflix 4K standards PC in 2017, I have since upgraded the ram to 32GB from 16, replaced my 120GB boot M.@ drive with a Team Group 1TB and replaced the 1050 ti FTW cpu with a ROG STRIX 8GB 980 something or other. and thank goodness $K Netflix is available to other chiopsets, GPU's and Browsers. Also the tubing from my built in Water cooling was sitting on the GPU backplate and melted a bit causing a bit of coolant to leak onto and dry on said backplate.. I don't dare moving the computer anymore for fear of shifting that tube and causing a full on coolant lean inside my running PC. also part of the pump system sometimes works and I have only heard the fans on the radiator spin up twice, but strangely it keeps really good temps in limping passive mode... ;) That's the water loop not the PC.

That CPU cooler... Reminds me of the time I used to cool an AMD 939 setup with a Thermaltake Big Typhoon.

FX-series CPUs have always been a fucking dumpster fire - I remember my computer constantly hitting T-junction in the summers and shutting off.

I have to wonder as to the GPU choice for upgrade that was tried here. I think a more appropriate one would be a 1050 or RX 580. They both would beat the crap out of that 760 and have better support under W7. Consider giving it whirl even if just in the lab.

About the KZfaq playback... Something is off. Because it should be playing with h264 codec which is hardware accelerated in the GPUs of that time. This looks like they are forcing VP9 or AV1 decoding, which is a brutal codec to do on pure cpu even in this age.

9:18 I thought Linus was going to break into song. I was slightly disappointed. as for the actual topic of the video, I used to run SLI (dual gpu)... I can't imagine throwing two more gpus, and a cpu in. It is bound to fail.

still have a FX8350 around somewhere, was great fun to overclock (5.1Ghz air all core iirc) but while tinkering was fun getting things to run without frame time issues was near impossible, at least on my chip.

10:47 (Seizure warning) Most of my computers since 2010 have been 2-4 way SLI machines. In my experience, that exact flickering is caused by a bad connection of the SLI bridge, due to oxidization or whatever. Usually just wiggling the SLI bridge around should fix the issue

I appreciate the fact you compared the Quadfather setup to a Metapod 😂 incidentally, I play Pokémon a lot lately, since my Z97-P board died, and I had to downgrade to a shitty H61 chipset board with only 2 RAM slots with an i5-2500K (which clearly doesn't run my games). But at least you didn't make the comparison to Butterfree, which is one of my best Pokémon, which actually allows you to steamroll the whole game with the right item and moveset.

14:33 My 760 Striker Platinum from Asus had 4GB ;-)

I recently managed to revive an old Gaming PC from my dad I found in my family's basement. I used that case for my setup at home, but wanted to see what the Motherboard was all about since I could find no info whatsoever on the case on what I was holding in my hand. Only the spiders knew. All I knew was that it was an old ASUS MB with Dual DDR2 and 467 GB HDD. So I took the MB and placed it in the Windows 97 case I was trying to mod. I managed to connect an almost as old WLAN-Adapter to the MB as well, just had to install some drivers. Now it's running Windows 7 and a functioning WLAN Module plus a little bit of other time travel from 1997-2010. I am most likely not going to use that thing often. It also had nothing on its drives anymore. But it was surprisingly fast, even with only HDDs and I want to find a nice little place for it somewhere, maybe see if I can't dust off an old Monitor or sth.. Maybe take it upstaires for my mum to use who is at the hospital atm (although she really isn't much of a PC user lol). Have a little present for her when she comes back (she won't care for it). Seeing old technology like that still light up is a special feeling somehow. I am loving it.

I just swapped out a AMD FX 8350 8 Core from my work PC for a latest AMD. I didn't realise just how bad it was performance wise, The CPU was great back in 2013, but later I added a 1050Ti GPU from 2017 and it could barely use 50% of the available power of the GPU. However it did hold up well, with water cooling, it's been faultless for the last 10 years reliability wise and I didn't notice much in the way of limitations for low level gaming, but I couldn't get almost any good results rendering videos which is why I upgraded. It's a huge difference, the latest AMD CPU's paired with a 3060Ti make a beast of a PC for both gaming and video production.