The worst crash Zildjian ever made.

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@the.drum.thing. Ай бұрын

Yup Zildjian are bringing back the Z Customs! They are a totally different disk, built upon the lessons learned of the original Z's. They are lathed and thinner to boot, they really dialled them in and are a classic 2000's sound. Nice to see them back! The original Z's on the other hand...

@diepy2 Ай бұрын

Nice!

@james10890 Ай бұрын

Speaking of the new Z Customs I was blown away by the 22 inch ride and 20 inch crash they sounded soo good!

@carrotnonumbershere Ай бұрын

@efafe4972 Ай бұрын

damn finally a video

@acidfuzz630 Ай бұрын

I swear to God, this exact cymbal is my first cymbal! It used to have some tape that was impossible to remove, so before I sold it, I had to scratch it hard! That's why there is a big clear spot near the Z ! i sold it in France in 2020 it's so random i don't have the photos i used to sell it but i still have som random picture on which you can see it !

@ripvanwinkle5199 Ай бұрын

It bonks and gongs at the same time. It bongs

@orthodynamicstereonails Ай бұрын

i love bongs

@vonnedahl Ай бұрын

gonks and bongs

@PanPanOB Ай бұрын

I bong everyday

@TheLordOfBeans Ай бұрын

Load up that swish og

@joetrollson Ай бұрын

That's a bong I wouldn't be happy to be with.

@wright.boy_ Ай бұрын

That Z has what we inside Zildjian called “cancer”, basically some contamination & porosity from a bad melt process. Even at the perfect thickness, those inclusions that break up the pure B20 cut the sustain down a comical amount. For lathed cymbals, once you start cutting, it’s easy to visually sort out, but without lathing you can often only hear it. And I’m betting for this series, it was anything-goes on what the cymbal “should” sound like, given the target market.

@DarthCiliatus Ай бұрын

So they just never played it before sending it out? Should have been caught in QC.

@deathstrike Ай бұрын

So has it been a recurring problem with Zildjian? Because when I was in band from 82-86, I used Zildjian cymbals for marching band and even with softer crashes? I cracked 2 pairs during 83-84 alone. Now they did sound bright and the sound more natural during crashes, but they just cracked and fell apart. We ended up getting Sabians, not as good sounding, but heavier and more durable.

@LeeRatbag Ай бұрын

Every original Z crash I ever tried sounded like that. I always put it down to them being way too thick for what they were supposed to do - there was so much bronze there they couldn't vibrate properly.

@j-pastel-yellow Ай бұрын

i love the fact that, even though it’s not a good sound, it’s literally exactly what someone is looking for. someone out there has been searching for that exact sound. that’s what i love most about music and instruments, even if it’s not what you want, it’s someone else’s dream

@bubbillusion Ай бұрын

yeah honestly i can think of a lot of contexts where it would sound really cool!

@zZWolfyZz Ай бұрын

@@bubbillusionwhat like the boff sound to go with the words from the 66 batman show

@brendanm6921 Ай бұрын

@@bubbillusionexactly. This guy and everybody commenting is just saying that it's automatically bad because it doesn't work for the context he's using it with. If you aren't the target audience then of course you won't make it sound good. Just look at china cymbals. They sound absolutely ugly on their own but with the right player and in the right context, they can sound absolutely amazing.

@jayall00 Ай бұрын

Hate to say it but some cymbals are objectively terrible, this is definitely one of them. It may be someone's favorite sound if their goal is to repel entire audiences

@bubbillusion Ай бұрын

@@jayall00 skill issue

@dontwannabeahero1570 Ай бұрын

As someone with 0 musical understanding that thing sounds like its underwater

@ashtmslf2315 Ай бұрын

Probably because it has a lot less high end presence than a normal cymbal

@mrblack5145 Ай бұрын

I too have zero musical sense, and I agree it sounds like a hubcap.

@jamiejam9976 Ай бұрын

As someone with musical understanding, I agree

@SMPandanic Ай бұрын

@@mrblack5145 funny thing is that hubcaps would probably sound better lol

@MrZestyOnion Ай бұрын

its strangely quiet??

@musicsucks5843 Ай бұрын

It sounds like a gong that is rapidly being pulled away from you

@bholmesdev Ай бұрын

The Gonplar Effect

@biscuitygudness Ай бұрын

this is so vivid that its all i can think about when i hear this cymbal now

@wishdankpods Ай бұрын

i've never heard a more accurate explanation for a cymbals sound

@viralgayguy Ай бұрын

You have a wonderful way with words

@callsignapollo_ Ай бұрын

Finally, the cymbal that tosses itself!

@dascommissar5264 Ай бұрын

Now you can have that “brother practicing drums downstairs” sound on your own kit!

@cockatoo010 Ай бұрын

Zildjian really figured out how to make a B20 bronze cymbal sound like a stop sign huh?

@ferretyluv Ай бұрын

Nah, stop sign is unique.

@DiamondKingStudios Ай бұрын

Introducing the Zildjian Aluminum.

@TheHeroicraptor Ай бұрын

i was so hoping he'd bust out the stop sign

@jjcdrumplay Ай бұрын

Yeah, good idea for a sheet of metal , even appliances work too. A guy used to make cymbals with sheet metal on youtube!

@SMPandanic Ай бұрын

I mean Wade has done a video on the stop sign symbol... it sounds like you think it'd sound

@TheShamois Ай бұрын

I never though I'd hear a cymbal that literally sounds depressed.

@GenericSweetener Ай бұрын

It’s a bonk but it realizes that people don’t want the bonk about mid way through so it gets self conscious and tries to stop

@zZWolfyZz Ай бұрын

This is fuckin gold man thanks you gave me a good laugh

@krystina662 Ай бұрын

haha I swear there's a split second when you can hear how it's supposed to sound but then it just doesn't

@NickMacKenzie Ай бұрын

i laughed so hard i choked

@blackett412 Ай бұрын

If the St. Anger snare was a cymbal.

@blackett412 Ай бұрын

No, wait, Lars used these. Because of course he did. -_-

@fretzil Ай бұрын

@@blackett412that's hilarious

@nickrustyson8124 Ай бұрын

@@blackett412 Wait what songs they use that in because there is no way anything rememberable used these

@nibs7252 Ай бұрын

@@nickrustyson8124I would guess it's the select few songs in MoP and AJfA that soundnlike there's no crash cymbals in them

@Kalle1854 Ай бұрын

@@nickrustyson8124the mix compensates for many things. That's the upside for playing thrash metal I guess...

@onionmctwist Ай бұрын

Finally, pre-choked

@JohnD72277 6 күн бұрын

The Zildjian version of the RUDE was the Impulse line before they did the Z line. Tim Alexander (Primus) still plays one. I love that the right drummer can make any gear sound good.

@tonywhy9 Ай бұрын

That's not even a crash cymbal. It's a bonk cymbal.

@toastermon2272 Ай бұрын

"We've used computer assisted hammering and all of our metallurgic knowledge to make this B20 cymbal sound like you closed the lid on a trash can too hard..."

@CBlargh Ай бұрын

Yes! Galvanized garbage can banging on concrete! I thought for sure I wasn't going to be able to hear a difference, but it's truly awful!

@BrunodeSouzaLino Ай бұрын

You clearly never heard of a Swish Knocker.

@JusterinoSan Ай бұрын

7:35 The "EAK, challenge everything" joke awakened some nostalgia deep in my brain

@03opelcorsa Ай бұрын

Seeing all the "computer generated" marketing in that magazine ad at 0:32 I am convinced Zildjian would be marketing this as "ooooh AI designed" if these cymbals released today

@kodekopelli Ай бұрын

The jaw drop I experienced after hearing that first 'clonk' is rivaled only by the introduction of the 20" steel DXP from the egg cymbal video

@TheAmazingCowpig Ай бұрын

I had to go back to the egg cymbal to listen to the 20" DXP steel again after this video. The sound of that thing is still special and hilarious.

@Rand2k1 Ай бұрын

It honestly made me laugh. After he said he hated the rude at the beginning I didn’t think it sounded too bad, so I expected the Z to not be too terrible. Boy was I wrong.

@KenzertYT Ай бұрын

The "lower quality" cymbals are all EXCELLENT nu-metal percussion...

@dcurry7287 Ай бұрын

One of my local nu-metal bands literally uses a trash can lid for an effect bonk. The drummer's nickname is Neil Dirt lmao.

@uglypinkeraser Ай бұрын

I find that even my least favorite cymbals sound perfect in the right context.

@j-drummer9132 Ай бұрын

Slipknot?

@bubblinebee Ай бұрын

@@dcurry7287 What a rad nickname

@Ramikin Ай бұрын

Yes! Every time he hit it I was like omg in the right context that sad kinda bonk would add so much tension to a good nu metal song. Even industrial stuff.

@jamiejam9976 Ай бұрын

We need to have a "really that bad" cymbol bonanza. A whole drum kit of skyscraper grade steel.

@IneptOrange Ай бұрын

It has a wonderful "Ehh, good enough" attitude. The bonk of a tricycle crash and the hiss of a wet fart. 10/10

@Frieze_XD Ай бұрын

LMAO that cymbal sounds like its soul died or something. Never knew drums could lose the will to live!

@MEGAMIGA Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@fatmatrow Ай бұрын

Sometimes you have to have your definition of “sounds good” recalibrated by hearing the things that sound bad.

@wingracer1614 Ай бұрын

Good point. Especially since I actually like a lot of cymbals that go for this sort of sound but now I know exactly what that sounds like when they fail horribly at it.

@NIGHTWHEEL... Ай бұрын

Ive played radiators that sound nicer than this Z

@IneptOrange Ай бұрын

It got to the point that by the end of the video I forgot what a cymbal is supposed to sound like.

@rot_studios Ай бұрын

Even on expensive studio monitors the Zildjian just ... disappears in a mix lmao

@irtehmrepic Ай бұрын

It genuinely sounds like you smashed it with a super soft marimba mallet and held the mallet on there

@melmao9507 Ай бұрын

When the music is playing it sounds like instead of hitting the cymbal you are throwing a beanbag down a hallway and accidentally hitting a cymbal.

@crackedemerald4930 Ай бұрын

he's adding his custom hammer marks to the cymbals he throws, what an entrepreneur

@AfferbeckBeats Ай бұрын

Ballistic hammering!

@Oatea Ай бұрын

Wade is looking more and more like the embodiment of "60s/70s" everyday... And im all here for it.

@weshartman1894 Ай бұрын

I think we’re looking at it wrong. More of a ‘pocket gong’ than cymbal. Now it sounds great.

@censored3847 Ай бұрын

You gotta do a whole video about the Rudes, they’re iconic at this point

@eggysauce Ай бұрын

The 16" Republic Percussion cymbal is made from B20 bronze. The hammering indicated it's a Wuhan district cymbal, just like Stagg. You'd find a lot of those under different names like CB Drums and bundled with entry level kits. To drummers out there, they may be cheap but can sound like something 10x the price!

@Flkrz Ай бұрын

The best feature of the Z is the mesmerising ripple it does after being hit

@eggysauce Ай бұрын

Timed it too well because Zildjian just reissued the Z's.

@Cooe. Ай бұрын

They reissued the Z Customs NOT the originals. Those are VERY different cymbals. 🤷 Z Customs kick ass! As a metal drummer first & foremost, I've used a Z Custom as my "main squeeze" crash (the 16" "Z Custom Rock Crash" to be specific) for like a decade now! 🌝 With me only being in the market for a replacement in my "default lineup" just recently due to its "FINALLY just too damn bad to keep ignoring" cracking/splitting. 🤦🤷 And I'm SERIOUSLY considering just replacing it with one these reissues while I still have the chance!... Although sadly the Rock Crash in particular wasn't reissued MUCH to my dismay, but at least the regular one was! (Thankfully the standard & Rock crashes are FAR more similar than different! Although I definitely prefer the louder, higher pitched, and more piercing sound of the thicker Rock crash if given the choice. 🤷 It cuts through the chugs & thugs of a kickass metal breakdown like a hot knife through buttah!!! 😁 It's almost like it has just the sliiiightest bit of quality small size china cymbal DNA in its sound profile that the standard version has less of. 🤷 Aka very loud, bright, and forward in the natural acoustic mix [aka cuts/pierces through], but also somehow without a ton of sustain for how crazy thick it is! 😳🤯 Or at least not for its primary sound anyways! Which again, makes it IMO damn near the IDEAL metal breakdown crash! Hahaha. 🤣 Although ofc on what's usually the most hard hit primary cymbal, the Rock crash's epic thickness which makes all those bits of unique goodness happen also makes it VERY liable to slowly start cracking after a few years, as I've unfortunately gotten to experience first-hand... 🤦 That could very well be part of why it wasn't reissued with the others. 🤷)

@solanine9205 Ай бұрын

Got a 16 and 18 Z Custom hanging out on my kit right now and they are great

@diezcinco 6 күн бұрын

@@Cooe. I have seen some of the z custom crashes and such that sound good, but we played a show a couple weeks ago where we all shared a kit and the guy who’s kit I was using had the z custom hi hats and I couldn’t stand them personally, they were super like crashy/washy sounding. I run cheap sabian b8s and to my ear they sounded better and they’re about 400+ dollars cheaper But it’s all subjective, we both played very different styles of music and it fit the mix for what the other band was playing better

@Cooe. 6 күн бұрын

@@diezcinco Never heard/used the Z Custom hats, just the crashes & rides. And lol no cymbal lineup, no matter how good otherwise, is impervious from having a dud though. 🤷 Happens pretty commonly actually.

@diezcinco 6 күн бұрын

@@Cooe. I know it especially as big as cymbal production is now you’re gonna have duds. Like I said they sounded good with what the guy that owned them was playing, it was like some weird electronic doom type stuff with a bunch of technical drum parts. I’m playing beat down hardcore so I don’t need nothing fancy by any means

@DoubleDoubleU Ай бұрын

The no name children's kit cymbal actually makes for a quiet decent splash cymbal.

@liontron8317 Ай бұрын

The zed: "all of those songs are not quite my tempo"

@screwd Ай бұрын

A cymbal that straight up sounds like a vine boom. Marvelous.

@mariothedevil1537 Ай бұрын

WAKE UP BOYS NEW DRUM THING JUST DROPPED

@BassicallyKiyash Ай бұрын

WOOO GADIES AND LENTLEMEN, A CYMBAL THINGY!!!!

@Miles6400 Ай бұрын

Only took him two months

@mariothedevil1537 Ай бұрын

@@Miles6400 true, but he’s also managing 3 channels and making a website for his museum

@sandy-vd3sl Ай бұрын

@@mariothedevil1537 yoooo i forgot about that u know what its called (the website)

@_-_Michael_-_ Ай бұрын

This gave me “Get up co**suckers, it’s all over…” vibes 😂😂

@ambiention Ай бұрын

The decay reminds me more of a dark plate reverb than a crash cymbal. In fact, with a couple of transducers you could probably turn it into a reverb plate like that guy did with the IKEA table.

@NeonBeeCat Ай бұрын

Sounds more like the metal grate that covers the central ac system intake than a cymbal.

@wingracer1614 Ай бұрын

I don't know, I suspect it would suck horribly as a reverb plate but could be wrong.

@morrinsville23 Ай бұрын

Brillant idea!!

@thehousecat93 Ай бұрын

I turned a cheap Craigslist crash cymbal into a plate reverb in college. Don’t remember what it was, some bottom line Zildjian probably. It’s a fun project. Line-to-speaker amp, wire it a cheap speaker under the cymbal, stick a piezo to the cymbal, mic to line amp, bingo bango. You can throw a feedback line from the line out to the line in with a control knob if you want, pretty easy addition, or you can do the feedback in DAW. Probably cost like $50 plus the cymbal. It sounded GNARLY, tons of character. If it sounds fun to you, it would be.

@alhillx Ай бұрын

The funny thing is...when he played a "good" and combined it with the "bad" one, it sounded pretty damn cool.

@pling5320 Ай бұрын

I like the Paiste rudes tbh. Especially the sound edge hihats… super crisp sound! Best hihat I have owned. Looking forward to buy a new pair when they are back in stock!

@Thrak94 Ай бұрын

That cymbal sounds like a refund.

@santeris.4708 Ай бұрын

Dankpods looks like hes on a Las Vegas vacation

@BFedie518 Ай бұрын

The comments couldn't prepare me for how soul-destroying that sound would be.

@soonerfan4321 Ай бұрын

Gotta say, I love the way The Drum Thing operates now. I think this is a lot more fun and engaging. Love the rework Wade! Keep up the great work, you madlad!

@Chroma3D Ай бұрын

I never fail to laugh when something you hit with a stick just goes *CLANG*

@michaelmechex Ай бұрын

That was the bonkest sounding pot lid I've ever heard 😂

@Evan-hm7tz Ай бұрын

The production quality of this is... actually insane lol

@Conrad._003 Ай бұрын

BELLY laughing when you hit the Z Custom

@4whomittolz846 Ай бұрын

the DXP steel sounds like a frying pan hahaha

@hammerth1421 Ай бұрын

Well, it basically is one. It's a frying pan coated in gold glitter paint.

@sandwich2473 Ай бұрын

Same materials :P

@DJ-xd3dt Ай бұрын

nothing could have prepared me for how that sounded, that is absolute garbage

@antisphinx Ай бұрын

I'm a musician but I do not have an ear for drums at all, usually when he pulls out a nasty cymbal I'm like "sounds fine to me" until he puts it in context. When he played this thing my jaw literally dropped right away it sounds so BAD

@andrewl9472 7 күн бұрын

I appreciate your succinct summary of what brass cymbals sound like

@BrandonBames Ай бұрын

That broken tossed around Pearl ride cymbal sounded 1000x better than that POS. Very trashy and awesome

@raghavendraravi6866 Ай бұрын

Zildjian made a metal table 😭😭

@girlpowerstation 18 күн бұрын

The throwing cymbals actually sounded like amazing effects

@Sum1isCDK Ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting so long for a stream highlights video, and it’s better than I could’ve asked for.

@WilburJaywright Ай бұрын

Zildjan really said, “We are determined to never be satisfied with our quality. Here’s what that feels like.”

@sign_verken Ай бұрын

Well it lives up to RUDE, it had a bad day so its a bit grumpy

@Skrillfreak Ай бұрын

It's been so long since a new drum times been uploaded. Excited for more

@BridgetParkVR Ай бұрын

I audibly went “Zildgian, why?” Multiple times during this video

@awesomeraichu59342 Ай бұрын

Hearing the first strike of that Zildjian Z has made me laugh harder than it should have. It sounds awful

@danielhansen9587 Ай бұрын

A garb time and a drum thing? You're spoiling us mate

@ethanlandau6333 Ай бұрын

Man i had a genuine chuckle when you hit that cymbal for the first time

@user-mn7gv6sn1x Ай бұрын

It sounds like 707 crash cymbal. That's why I like it

@FL_2646 Ай бұрын

While it is quite horrible, i think it would be perfect for some funeral doom sort of metal project, i have heard some bands wich have this style of cymbal and it fits perfectly with the music.

@geo-fry6372 Ай бұрын

Yeah, the only use I can think of is in like a big prog kit where you want a ton of different cymbals to add variety. It could be used every once in a while, but certainly not as the main crash cymbal

@drdoktor77 Ай бұрын

Yeah, this could be useful as an effect cymbal, but it's definitely not a Crash, at all, and it's not going to make anyone switch from Paiste RUDE.

@crackedemerald4930 Ай бұрын

it sounds like it's trying to pretend it's painted

@mylowround60 Ай бұрын

The original Z 24" Heavy Power Ride and 22" Light Power Ride were awesome, though! Same for the Z/K Dyno Beat hi hat combo. The rest were legit the shits...

@DG-sf9ei Ай бұрын

Anything Pearl is proud enough to put their name on wins the top spot for horrible

@NorthernChev Ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY agree. I test drove one of these the first month they’ve were released in-store. It was horrific sounding. At the time, though, not wanting to appear stupid, I pretended like it was going to be a game changer. Which just made me look stupid.

@krusher74 Ай бұрын

just go for stupid, you are better off (but never go full retard)

@carrotnonumbershere Ай бұрын

yay drum dude is back

@michielvansteenhoven7255 Ай бұрын

9:38 that throwing cymbal sounds like something Zach Hill would use. I honestly dig it way more than the Zildjian

@ohthatremindsmeofmypruneju3669 Ай бұрын

A cymbal that might take it to the Z is the Peace 12" Disc of Hate that you found at cashie's. I actually think the disc of hate has a use as a very niche effect cymbal though so i think i'd rather have that than the Z

@timebender25 Ай бұрын

God that brass cymbal at 5:40-ish has such a high ring to it, tinnitus type sound. Yeouch.

@timebender25 Ай бұрын

Can't tell if the K at 6:58 has it too, if it does it much much quieter than the brass' ring. But I also could just be imagining it 'cause the brass one is still in my brain.

@1nk_edd Ай бұрын

Sounds like a bit of aluminum siding underwater

@barrelracer12 6 күн бұрын

I spent the whole time just watching the sound wave wobble! Mesmerized

@Flapjck Ай бұрын

Idk why but this video makes me want to see a CNC cut cymbal. I don’t think anyone would be willing to throw away that much bronze for something that probably sounds bad lol

@cubiclelemur Ай бұрын

If I have some laying around (I always have stuff around), I could try to make one, and try to make it sound good?

@Flapjck Ай бұрын

@@cubiclelemur that’s definitely a video i would watch. I didn’t even realise people have bronze just laying around lol

@cubiclelemur Ай бұрын

@@Flapjck it's weird, I have like everything lying around, from car parts to collectable toys, weird stuff

@whatrhimeswithorange Ай бұрын

Hell yes just what I needed this morning.

@whatrhimeswithorange Ай бұрын

Also first lel

@StartedBlastin 29 күн бұрын

It literally chokes itself. No grab required. Genius

@mike220_8 Ай бұрын

Great video 😂! Best cymbal of Z series 21" mega bell

@M4RCM0NT31R0 Ай бұрын

0:49 *RUDE*

@GeoStreber Ай бұрын

That's as BONK as a crash cymbal can BONK

@magpie-yf8gf Ай бұрын

been subconsciously waiting for this vid and its finally here, nice.

@blackmud Күн бұрын

Excellent analysis, although Zildjian's first response to Paiste's Rude was the Impulse range, which were similarly hammered but not spun. In 1980s UK Impulse was also the name of a popular deodorant.

@user-sd3ik9rt6d Ай бұрын

Better sound from a bin lid

@linussandwich8915 Ай бұрын

DRUM THING!

@Dasyati Ай бұрын

3:40 "confused john travolta" scanning the room trying to locate the rest of the sound

@Lolwutfordawin Ай бұрын

I actually really like the sound of that thing, so delightfully un-cymbally.

@commandertaco1762 Ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, paired with a good quality cymbal, a crap one can be used with its 'unique' sound

@hammerth1421 Ай бұрын

It's good as an accent sound, to be used like every second bar at most.

@fransredoja7138 Ай бұрын

These would fit great on a certain metallica album

@Readesu 16 күн бұрын

Gives that "I'm going to be murdered in an alley" vibe.

@LukeKroeker Ай бұрын

That's amazingly bad! Thanks for sharing these little bits of history!

@SuperJxl Ай бұрын

why do you say Z like a british person?

@HemelzinkiStudio Ай бұрын

Because he's from a prison island aye

@kevinsandstrom5833 Ай бұрын

Because he's basically a British person with extra step

@DrummerJim107 10 күн бұрын

the cymbal you hate automatically chokes itself which is really cool when used appropriately

@ChaosPootato Ай бұрын

How can B20 big pizzas sound like a splash and a bonk at the same time...? You gotta respect the craftsmanship, it's probably not easy

@jordanpulley4871 Ай бұрын

Finally. I’ve missed the drum content!!!

@Noelle808 Ай бұрын

That cymbal sounds like it doesn't want to make noise and is only doing so under duress

@elmercenario9427 7 күн бұрын

oof. Agreed. I do still, however, have my z-custom dyno beat hats from 2003. Those are loud and indestructible. Glad the line is coming back

@FloydianHate Ай бұрын

shoutout to that guy in the stream chat who said "lars? artist?" at the same time that I did while I was watching this

@morrinsville23 Ай бұрын

I kinda like it as an effects cymbal, i have a krusty old cymbal .. maxtone.. rust af and it sounds like your banging on a rusty old 40 gallon drum / tank, i love it