The Worst Entertainment Companies: SM Entertainment (Part 1)

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Chaennie Lisoo

Chaennie Lisoo

4 жыл бұрын

This is the seventh episode of a new series on my channel called "The worst entertainment companies". In this series, I will talk about the questionable management and treatment of idol groups. In this video, I will talk about SM Entertainment. I will be breaking down how they have poorly managed, taken advantage of and mistreated their idol groups AND trainees.
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SCOURCES USED
How SM treats their forgeing idols
seoulbeats.com/2018/05/sms-tr...
Jessica's departure from SNSD
www.allkpop.com/article/2014/...
www.allkpop.com/article/2014/...
Taeyeon on healing camp
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Amber's alarming Instagram caption
www.koreaboo.com/news/fx-ambe...
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Intro Blackpink Remix by @Jongdaemood on twitter
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Into the new world Piano cover By Doopiano
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Interview with Hang Geng Orginally posted By sheracheung
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@miphasgrace8980
@miphasgrace8980 4 жыл бұрын
sm artist: *im not getting paid, i have developed x condition, i am not being treated properly* sm: *LIES* korean judicial system: *aw shit, here we go again*
@Truth_teller724
@Truth_teller724 4 жыл бұрын
😆 lol. this comment deserves more likes
@ladan48
@ladan48 3 жыл бұрын
@@justraihanrafi8174 Yes they got a new CEO and they are going pretty good acually this was a long time ago and SM has been around longer so obviously they made more mistakes but they are improving alot now and have not been in a scandal for a long time now. They are not the best company but they are definetly not the worst.
@emdawg3
@emdawg3 3 жыл бұрын
not feel like. do
@Balghae
@Balghae 3 жыл бұрын
sad but true
@aggiezi9301
@aggiezi9301 2 жыл бұрын
Just watch the forms autofill with SM's legal information from the last incidents for each artist
@stinky4lyfe598
@stinky4lyfe598 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they treat their Chinese artist wrong
@butcher9673
@butcher9673 4 жыл бұрын
ᴀ sɪᴍᴘʟᴇ ʜᴜᴍᴀɴ that’s not a feeling that’s a fact
@soobindoll9767
@soobindoll9767 4 жыл бұрын
@@butcher9673 All faxs no printer
@odessa5123
@odessa5123 4 жыл бұрын
Honey, that's a straight up fact
@_cherrychi_
@_cherrychi_ 4 жыл бұрын
Blink_ Once ✔️
@blackpinkandexostrash7161
@blackpinkandexostrash7161 4 жыл бұрын
Sweetie, it's not a feeling It's a fact
@emmabennett7699
@emmabennett7699 4 жыл бұрын
SM has some of the best, most iconic groups! It is awful to see how they treat them!
@Sajirah
@Sajirah 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Bennett Agreed. They’re a giant in the industry because of their iconic groups and yet they treat them terribly. You’d think they’d want to treat the people who make them so much money far better. Especially since they’ve had so many scandals with members either leaving or suing them due to their harsh management.
@SleepSommelier
@SleepSommelier 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sajirah I don't think it is that many scandals considering how many groups, members and trainees SM have. There is bound to be differences. Also talking about first gen kpop artists and them not renewing is not even a scandal or bad treatment. It is just how they handled it back then.
@pigsthesedays2304
@pigsthesedays2304 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the most successful, not best
@user-os7uv5bf9h
@user-os7uv5bf9h 3 жыл бұрын
@@pigsthesedays2304 ur just bitter she said SOME not necessarily saying they were they best calm ur nerves
@retromoonangel
@retromoonangel 3 жыл бұрын
SM doesn’t care about their artists, they only want the money and publicity no matter if the publicity is good or bad SM likes it
@crimson_sky
@crimson_sky 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised SHINee wasn’t in this, as they are 2nd gen
@sukritisoni1513
@sukritisoni1513 4 жыл бұрын
i thought the top comment would be about SHINee. lets hope yours get to the top and she sees and talk about shinee in the next part.
@blackandbluemadness7965
@blackandbluemadness7965 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I was thinking that too
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119 4 жыл бұрын
@once you taemin you can't taemout true
@hannah4107
@hannah4107 4 жыл бұрын
Yees, Shinee definitely got mistreated as well.. Let's see, probably they will be mentioned in part two ^^
@minnie1079
@minnie1079 4 жыл бұрын
she'll talk about them in second part. she probably didn't want the video to be too long
@borderlinesc
@borderlinesc 4 жыл бұрын
people: sm isn’t that bad! there isn’t too much to expose! chaennie lisoo: *hold my tea*
@yourhomiechillinvibes
@yourhomiechillinvibes 4 жыл бұрын
My coworkers always talk about how "good" SM is and im just sitting there like O_O?
@xiao5641
@xiao5641 4 жыл бұрын
She even adds other parts to it lmao
@blackandbluemadness7965
@blackandbluemadness7965 4 жыл бұрын
@@emilyconnor3911 SM is really bad but not the worst i agree, the problem is that as one of the Big3, their influence is bigger, and at the same time they are under more scrutiny. I never heard of Open World, who do they represent?
@blackpinkandexostrash7161
@blackpinkandexostrash7161 4 жыл бұрын
Hold my 2 part-video
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourhomiechillinvibes Bish WTF
@ash-xk6yo
@ash-xk6yo 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early the f(x) members where still in SM
@ChaennieLisoo
@ChaennieLisoo 4 жыл бұрын
Oop too soon 🤭
@LaCeleste14
@LaCeleste14 4 жыл бұрын
Amber and Luna finished their contracts with SM. The only one who is still under contract (I believe) is Krystal because she has her acting career still ongoing.
@Ariana-sy7ci
@Ariana-sy7ci 4 жыл бұрын
Bianca Gonzalez didn’t Amber release a song yesterday with sm?
@LaCeleste14
@LaCeleste14 4 жыл бұрын
@Ariana Productions she also has had a contract with Steel Wool Ent. (based in LA, California) as soon as she finished with SM. She has been working on the album with Steel Wool for a while, which is the latest songs she has released recently. Her contract with SM ended on Sept. 1st, to be exact.
@Ariana-sy7ci
@Ariana-sy7ci 4 жыл бұрын
Bianca Gonzalez ohhhh okay thx!
@Tina-td3so
@Tina-td3so 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like sm is doing the same to EXO like they did F(x). After the debut of Red Velvet, they stopped promoting F(x), and now that NCT have debuted, they’ve given up on EXO. They don’t know how to equally promote which other than being obviously unfair, is such a stupid mistake for their business since these groups have enormous fanbases which = revenue and profit. I just don’t understand what their logic is
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 4 жыл бұрын
EXO was on tour on part of 2019 and now they are releasing a single in Japan...if that isn't promoting I dunno what it is
@jaehyunsdimples127
@jaehyunsdimples127 4 жыл бұрын
Tina So when they’ll debut their new girl group they’ll give up Red Velvet?
@mexicanjesus8482
@mexicanjesus8482 4 жыл бұрын
The dont even know how to manage NCT right. NCT Dream promotion is non existent. They were going to make WAYV the Chinese sub unit but that's been trashed ig.
@elizabethlililee9755
@elizabethlililee9755 4 жыл бұрын
So we all agree sm doesn’t know how to manage. How the fuck are they still “successful”. Honestly they just cop all the talented idols and that’s why we kept supporting their groups even if they themselves are TRASH.
@KurlyRushie
@KurlyRushie 4 жыл бұрын
Well now that SuperM has formed, they probably stop promoting all other respective groups that each member belongs to. With the exception of Taemin as most of Shinee are serving the military, SM really messed up with the NCT. I can see where they're going with the sub units and member rotation but SM should have established a proper promotional activity for this group so that the audience doesn't get confused with which members belong to which and when they reach a certain age they move to that unit...it can get pretty confusing.
@moonstruck57
@moonstruck57 4 жыл бұрын
SM doesn't know how to treat their artists mistreating them. YG wastes talents inturn making their artists suffer. JYP needs to let their artists rest,not treat them as a working machine and stop the sexualization of their underage idols In conclusion Stan the idols not the messed up companies
@oli6432
@oli6432 4 жыл бұрын
jyp's done worse than just overworking and some neglect. granted it's not as much as some other labels have done but let's not sweep the fact that tzuyu was made to announce chinese loyalty when she might think otherwise in order to save face and money in china under the rug now
@tjtribble.
@tjtribble. 4 жыл бұрын
Oli thats something almost any company would do. If something happens that’s going to cost your business a lot of money, you’re obviously going to do what you can to reverse it. Even if it’s not the most ethical decision, it’s what you do as a business. American companies would do this too, and we’ve seen examples of this in the NBA and Blizzard. Obviously the Chinese government is one of the most despicable organizations on the planet and Hong Kong and Taiwan should be free, but as a business trying to make money you can’t say that. We don’t know how he feels about the issue behind the scenes, so we shouldn’t judge him for making the smart decision as CEO of JYP Entertainment. This isn’t to say that JYP is completely innocent or that he’s not treating his idols unfairly, but for this specific issue I don’t think he’s completely in the wrong.
@stanloona1183
@stanloona1183 4 жыл бұрын
Mina from twice did get a break but I guess your still right since twice was overworked this year
@candyycotton
@candyycotton 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@rabinsam
@rabinsam 4 жыл бұрын
This year JYP has actually started letting his idols take breaks do to both mental and physical health But of course, every company still has their downsides
@ioslugs
@ioslugs 4 жыл бұрын
*_Sm cannot properly promote idol groups I've said what I've said_*
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119
@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla119 4 жыл бұрын
*and you've said the mother fucking truth*
@taefiedcontents9467
@taefiedcontents9467 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@w.iroses
@w.iroses 4 жыл бұрын
editsxkimi right it came out of nowhere
@choiyoungjae
@choiyoungjae 4 жыл бұрын
You havent seen jyp then🙃
@Aitiqaxxx
@Aitiqaxxx 4 жыл бұрын
kookheon SM,JYP and YG this company is really bad at promote their artist
@anyu_916
@anyu_916 4 жыл бұрын
Sm had always mistreated chinese members from their idol group
@lilyrose302
@lilyrose302 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why they put Chinese members in groups since they treat them so terribly
@anyu_916
@anyu_916 4 жыл бұрын
@@lilyrose302 I know right
@mia1310
@mia1310 4 жыл бұрын
BTS LOVER yeah! As a Chinese person who has lived in mainland China had visits often I can say that many other countries like South Korea, Japan, and even Hong Kong citizens really dislike people who are from the mainland.
@prekshapawar9838
@prekshapawar9838 4 жыл бұрын
@@mia1310 yeah
@m_jyi6185
@m_jyi6185 4 жыл бұрын
Lilyrose 13 for marketing
@benchapin7546
@benchapin7546 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you have to do a part 2 shows how bad sm really is
@tsukishimaaoba9771
@tsukishimaaoba9771 4 жыл бұрын
@Lauren C Maybe SM thinks better treatment = less profit
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 4 жыл бұрын
It also shows that SM has been around since ages :V
@gwisin7986
@gwisin7986 4 жыл бұрын
SM is the first kpop ent with the biggest amount of debuted idols, there's bound to be conflicts in such a big company.
@madelion24
@madelion24 4 жыл бұрын
Longest run idol company plus the most idols debuted from a single company....also also longest running connection to Chinese/International idols aka non Korean/Korean born idols who's mentality has clashed with the Korean idol system....equals LOTS and i mean an eff TON of drama. PS: There are a hand full of former SM trainees that are currently working in China(their home country) Xing Zhao Lin being one of the more popular ones.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 2 жыл бұрын
They can't be that bad. The vast majority of their artists never fail to extend their contracts with SM.
@shavitvini473
@shavitvini473 4 жыл бұрын
Also: Sm rejected many dramas in the name of Seohyun without asking her. Same thing with nct's winwin who was denied by sm a part in meteor garden.
@mexicanjesus8482
@mexicanjesus8482 4 жыл бұрын
Ten too
@syzygy1814
@syzygy1814 4 жыл бұрын
winwin also erased from NCT 127 after 3 years being part of them tbh in sad
@catalayalafaye5337
@catalayalafaye5337 4 жыл бұрын
He could be part of meteor garden?
@serenityrose9308
@serenityrose9308 4 жыл бұрын
I Didn’t Know About This,If This Is True SM Is Definitely Fucked Up Like Bitch Treat Your Chinese Artists Right And Don’t Waste Their Talent.
@simpleme1734
@simpleme1734 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t there a rumor that SM rejected a huge film project in the name of D.O?
@cynthia-si3th
@cynthia-si3th 4 жыл бұрын
*sm is so bad they need a part two and i oop-* the vsco girl from within got summoned
@frostb1041
@frostb1041 4 жыл бұрын
Damnit.
@soobdoob
@soobdoob 4 жыл бұрын
yg be needing 10 part series then 😳🤡🤡
@frostb1041
@frostb1041 4 жыл бұрын
@@soobdoob yes
@extrzq
@extrzq 4 жыл бұрын
Cynthia Tran sksksks
@aeri2512
@aeri2512 4 жыл бұрын
Yg be needing 25 parts then🤣
@ahmoniac
@ahmoniac 4 жыл бұрын
Two SM idols commited suicide. It shows something.
@STAN_LOONA
@STAN_LOONA 4 жыл бұрын
Sulli was murdered by the public and jonghyun had depression which a large number of people suffer from. You’re reaching.
@sinha3997
@sinha3997 4 жыл бұрын
As the previous comment said, it was a bit sm fault but for real though, it's the Korean citizen fans. Both idol had depression due to the public. Sulli is kind of a bit I would say American style which she likes to be free, but due to different cultures, they would online bully her for whatever she wears, talks, etc... Jonghyun had depression also due to k-citizens talks and sm rules
@diduseejiminsjams7951
@diduseejiminsjams7951 4 жыл бұрын
STAN LOOΠΔ SM never gave them the resources they needed sulli asked SM to help with the hate comments yet they ignored her they knew how bad jonghyun’s depression was yet they never gave him a therapist and let him suffer in silent
@bitesizebri9983
@bitesizebri9983 4 жыл бұрын
@@diduseejiminsjams7951 What could they really do? There's just too many haters to go after every single one of them one by one. It's what being a celebrity is,you will be glamorized but being an idol is a different standard than being an artists.
@icedmocha5264
@icedmocha5264 4 жыл бұрын
@@STAN_LOONA depression can be situational. SM could have worsened or even caused his depression.
@user-yn8yw6ph7z
@user-yn8yw6ph7z 4 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about 2014 when the managers from SM confiscated the EXO members phone’s to unfollow Kris and delete his number from their phones? When Baekhyun refused to they slapped him, poor boy was crying 😡
@braincells1384
@braincells1384 4 жыл бұрын
知るか what???from where did you find this information? that’s just cruel
@user-yn8yw6ph7z
@user-yn8yw6ph7z 4 жыл бұрын
Xiumin'sbraincells it was everywhere in 2014!! There was alot of news from people who worked there and those who had connections. The whole fandom was in chaos trying to find out if they were okay and what was happening to their social medias
@braincells1384
@braincells1384 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-yn8yw6ph7z oh wow wtf Sm is insane! I'm a rather new exol (started stanning them in 2017) so I don't know a lot of details about Kris' departure , but damn it's much more darker than I thought
@LunaHiddenStars
@LunaHiddenStars 4 жыл бұрын
And this is why I ABSOLUTELY HATE SM ENTERTAINMENT
@nicolegoh9748
@nicolegoh9748 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind do you have any sources for this?
@Momobibii
@Momobibii 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all better be prepared, if it’s a Big 3 company you KNOW it’s got some TEA
@diamyized_kat9032
@diamyized_kat9032 4 жыл бұрын
IT'S GOING DOWN FOR REAL.
@tsukishimaaoba9771
@tsukishimaaoba9771 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't see anything new, almost everyone know whats going on with SM. More interested in lowkey evil small company since I don't really know much about them.
@sumayasaid3715
@sumayasaid3715 4 жыл бұрын
Cube and plexus have a bit of tea too. They’re shitty as well
@alisa8963
@alisa8963 4 жыл бұрын
Sumaya Said ahemHYUNAahem
@livyrl
@livyrl 4 жыл бұрын
just so much tea that it needed a LONG ASS part two as well eye-
@leahskrrr7095
@leahskrrr7095 4 жыл бұрын
winwin and renjun behind the mic : yeah they did this too mhm u expose them
@JH-bb8in
@JH-bb8in 3 жыл бұрын
They should be glad SM gave them any opportunity. Renjun is Korean btw.
@masochisticdoll
@masochisticdoll 3 жыл бұрын
@@JH-bb8indoesn’t mean they should be mistreated???? They literally left renjun in the rain with fans, with no coat or umbrella. They told him to go to another car? & lets not talk about win win mistreatments. Everyone knows win win is mistreated badly, even if one of the members talk about win win they’re get told to shut up???? I’m happy he’s in wayv he’s seems more happier
@JH-bb8in
@JH-bb8in 3 жыл бұрын
@@masochisticdoll Cnetz lied to you, and you believe anything on the Internet - including fake news.. That's your problem..
@masochisticdoll
@masochisticdoll 3 жыл бұрын
@@JH-bb8in oh no, I see what’s you’re problem, you don’t want to admit the mistreatments that they went through. What about super junior following a lawsuit against SM entertainment for mistreatment? What about EXO Chinese members leaving because of the mistreatment they dealt with that THEY HAVE SAID THEMSELVES? The video here has plenty of footage & the examples I gave earlier about winwin and renjun is there. There’s even many Koreans who even said themselves when they heard them telling (I forgot who) to shutup informally when they mention winwin. I wouldn’t be surprise if winwin also leaves & file a lawsuit against them.
@masochisticdoll
@masochisticdoll 3 жыл бұрын
@@JH-bb8in & it’s not what I believe in the internet or “fake news” when previous idols who was with SM entertainment has made claims themselves. There’s no point of going back & forth with someone who wants to be blinded by the truth.
@anthonyaquariusmontoya1157
@anthonyaquariusmontoya1157 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, SM doesn't come after you if you need a lawyer mom can help you in that department
@LumiLiz
@LumiLiz 4 жыл бұрын
All I could think of while reading this was "Time to bring me my money"
@sherriedily_vivi8267
@sherriedily_vivi8267 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Taeyeon's struggle with mental health. Mental health is a rare thing to be talked about in the kpop industry, but it's very common and really important.
@Reecane95
@Reecane95 4 жыл бұрын
In case with Jessica, you really have to know the culture to understand why this happened. I was an exchange student in Korea, my teacher told me a story: a woman was working in a company but had to leave for maternity leave. She talked with her boss and got permission, everything seemed ok. The day she comes back from maternity leave she finds her table empty, her stuff packed in boxes and put by the door. Such situations are very common in Korea. They tell you it's ok, but then imply by action that you should leave I personally think it's disgusting In Jessica case: SM was not ok with her business from the beginning, but didn't tell her. She just suddenly discovers she's out of group. She's also American, maybe she didn't know Koreans act like this
@JH-bb8in
@JH-bb8in 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica was a skank who is now making money off SNSD brand, even though she betrayed them first.
@kristyraza6041
@kristyraza6041 3 жыл бұрын
From her little bio in her book shine it stated that Jessica is Korean American.
@bunnywar
@bunnywar 3 жыл бұрын
Sm still collagbbed with her brand even after she left snsd. They didn't have a problem as they could share profit. They still let some of their artists wear her clothes. The problem was clearly more in the group than the company.
@migs6917
@migs6917 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunnywar totally agree with you, even jessica´s brand was featured in a chinese movie, wich i dont remember the name but sm financed the whole thing, even after she was kicked out of the group
@LiterallyMisty
@LiterallyMisty 3 жыл бұрын
That’s so frustrating
@ichigoknightrh
@ichigoknightrh 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watch a clip of Taeyeon never wanting her future children to inherit her singing ability, and saying they can't become singers.
@tomuchcamoflauge
@tomuchcamoflauge 4 жыл бұрын
well the group also actively picked the music she hated because 'If Taeyeon hates it it'll be a hit" and she would go offstage and cry out of frustration. I don't think, if she has children, she'd want them to go through that. And there are far worse things that happen in the process of becoming a singer, it's a thought of protecting her future kids
@isiaadiel3468
@isiaadiel3468 4 жыл бұрын
They also refused most solos, dramas, and variety shows not directly connected to promotions and didn't promote those that were accepted. They were silent whenever members got a role in anything (even when Sunny, SM's niece, got a Broadway show) and even pulled Tiffany from her friend Jessi's show with no reason. They didn't even give f(x) a random name. Fans had to make their own and were so pissed when Red Velvet got one soon after debut. And how they treated them was rude and neglectful. When Sully was getting bullied, they didn't even help out or say something. Then Jonghyun's suicide sent shockwaves and people in the company filed out swiftly after, leading the large wave of companies being suddenly exposed by idols tired of turmoil. The company, in that right, is the rise and maybe fall of K-pop as we know it.
@iji-fi9df
@iji-fi9df 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that RV didnt really get their fandom name right after debut, I think after 3 years(not sure) that SM decided to give the official fandom name( FX definitely had a longer time to get one)
@soobindoll9767
@soobindoll9767 4 жыл бұрын
@@iji-fi9df That's so horrible
@tsu_den__.tw_g
@tsu_den__.tw_g 4 жыл бұрын
Being here after sulli's death hurt my heart.
@babyfaec
@babyfaec 4 жыл бұрын
More relevant than ever
@toomuchsugainmakookie247
@toomuchsugainmakookie247 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video called *How MNET Rigged The System*
@loonavelvet7611
@loonavelvet7611 4 жыл бұрын
Mnet=🐍
@ishakumari3395
@ishakumari3395 4 жыл бұрын
Mnet is literally snake🐍🐍🐍🐍
@staymakesskzstay247
@staymakesskzstay247 3 жыл бұрын
Mmet is such a fcking 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍 #justice4Skz
@RionaHenry
@RionaHenry 4 жыл бұрын
They're really bad with their foreign idols in general, but they seem especially horrible with their Chinese idols. There's a reason why if a Chinese idol gets shipped off the China they don't come back if they can make their own music and it isn't anything political.
@derekwu5576
@derekwu5576 4 жыл бұрын
Thats y Lay also ended his career in EXO
@marcia6110
@marcia6110 4 жыл бұрын
derek wu Yixing is still in EXO.
@pae7672
@pae7672 4 жыл бұрын
Yixing is probably not coming back though. He makes more money on his own, gets better treatment and EXOs contracts are expiring anyways. We can´t know for sure until EXO make their decision but it´s unlikely that he´s coming back.
@marcia6110
@marcia6110 4 жыл бұрын
PAE okay but he still loves and cherishes exo members so for me Hes still an exo member no matter what
@yojekeksks
@yojekeksks 3 жыл бұрын
SM is like a toddler who gets bored of his old toys after he finds the new ones. Sad...
@skylarempire436
@skylarempire436 3 жыл бұрын
True
@mahje1542
@mahje1542 4 жыл бұрын
SM should learn to promote their current groups correctly before they debut new ones.
@maddilinekathryn5684
@maddilinekathryn5684 4 жыл бұрын
You know a company is bad when there’s a whole ass LAW made because of them
@amye1082
@amye1082 4 жыл бұрын
We have waited for the tea and it's finally being spilled
@HalfbloodPirate1
@HalfbloodPirate1 4 жыл бұрын
Now, we have Amber's most recent music video where she is definitely shading SM...
@AshleyAdam16
@AshleyAdam16 4 жыл бұрын
Name of the song?
@NoxNovak
@NoxNovak 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyAdam16 if I remember correctly the song's called: "Hands tied behind my back"
@ryuryujin972
@ryuryujin972 Жыл бұрын
they even dont know how to promote girl groups/boy groups properly
@helloolleh8492
@helloolleh8492 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do YG and explain how YG himself would treat 2NE1
@Lonely.Pizza_King
@Lonely.Pizza_King 4 жыл бұрын
Fr
@lilyrose302
@lilyrose302 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! YG needs one of these videos
@tsukishimaaoba9771
@tsukishimaaoba9771 4 жыл бұрын
*Drug store
@dc9067
@dc9067 4 жыл бұрын
Of course But since SM has 2 parts YG will have 3 💀
@mynameot17
@mynameot17 4 жыл бұрын
YG’s treatment of female artists is disgusting. From making his wife’s group flop so he could marry her to how he flat out gave up on 2ne1 after Bom’s scandal ugh
@eva-wd9ib
@eva-wd9ib 4 жыл бұрын
They truly are terrible. I bet all SM is thinking about right now is how they lost some more money from Sulli. They disgust me
@babyfaec
@babyfaec 4 жыл бұрын
More relevant than ever
@Bucherviews
@Bucherviews 4 жыл бұрын
For Super Junior as well, there's a clip from a show where Leeteuk went to talk to a counsellor about his feelings about being in the group (on camera, naturally) and he spoke about the immense pressure he'd been put under. Heechul as well, despite being still part of SM, often subtly shades them - even when he's not trying to, it still exposes bad things, like when he had a metal spike put in his leg after his accident and he brought it onto a talk show because it had bent because he 'danced on it too hard'... yeah, that's called 'not sufficient rest time', and it means that even now he's missing out on Super Junior's activities because it never got to heal properly, and he's in constant pain. I'm pretty worried about Haechan from NCT for the same reason - he got a stress fracture or something and spent 3 weeks at home, but when he was next doing activities fan videos show him limping and in pain after their performances. If you'd like a good breakdown of the diet culture, AMFG Videos always have a good detailed look into individual artists (including Taeyeon), and if you'd like a clip of SM artists talking about stuff, the TV show Idol Drama Operation Team had a bunch of members from different girl groups (including Seulgi from Red Velvet) meet up to write a TV drama together, and the first thing they talked about was how hard the life of a trainee was, and how the fridges had cameras on them to control how much they ate, and how hard it was to be prevented from calling their parents, etc. Also, Amber's new song released after her contract finally ended (Hands Behind My Back) is very clearly about the industry and its control. She's released other music before that exposes it in the lyrics, too. Worth a look for an update to this video.
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 4 жыл бұрын
SM has always the best ideas,production and music quality...but when it comes to management...I feel no one in SM has even taken a class on management and they have been learning on their own... or at least lee sooman didn't choose properly the persons in their board
@fxrnweh-hd5dq
@fxrnweh-hd5dq 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't even bother to officially disband F(X) and now all members left the company.
@baozibang_TaliKpopAddict
@baozibang_TaliKpopAddict 4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about doing one for Yuehua? Because if there is 1 company that's too stupid to promote their most popular group then it's them... UNIQ legit only have 1 Album and I think their contracts are up in 2022 with 3 Members currently in temporary Boygroups...
@jolin1369
@jolin1369 4 жыл бұрын
UNIQ 😢
@tsukishimaaoba9771
@tsukishimaaoba9771 4 жыл бұрын
They are busy promoting Everglow
@havensohn3821
@havensohn3821 4 жыл бұрын
And 1 Uniq member is practically jobless because the other members are in other groups.
@travelerscramine3828
@travelerscramine3828 4 жыл бұрын
I think Yuehua is not that bad.They just suck at promoting their korean artist while in china,their artist like a star after their trainee join Produce and Idol Producer.They did great at promoting their korean artist now after debuting Everglow and give them good comeback and promotion.While they got Yena who debuted in Izone and give them more money.Their artist and trainee really has a good talent and visual like UNIQ member and Hyeonseob and Euiwoong
@mayahatif1416
@mayahatif1416 4 жыл бұрын
omg uniq i cri
@benedictlim6767
@benedictlim6767 4 жыл бұрын
a two part series for SM? im ready for a whole season when you talk about YG *grabs snack*
@emdawg3
@emdawg3 3 жыл бұрын
the way sm just leaves their previous groups down in the dust with no comeback after they debut a new one
@pr3ttyp3tal75
@pr3ttyp3tal75 4 жыл бұрын
What upsets me most is when Heechul vomited blood while practicing don't don (there'seven a video). I don't know whether the company made him practice so much so that happened or not but it still upsets me that they don't take care of their artists better.
@AshleyAdam16
@AshleyAdam16 4 жыл бұрын
Link?
@lewdwaifu690
@lewdwaifu690 4 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyAdam16 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbl3fMKjmqm6k3k.html here
@sadtoaste
@sadtoaste 3 жыл бұрын
The "7 year curse" isn't really a curse, but more like a light of escape for mistreated idols. The fact that sm is the reason why there had to be this law to ban slave contracts says so much
@samx1dongpyo522
@samx1dongpyo522 4 жыл бұрын
As an S.M. Stan, it’s VERY difficult to see the history and how they’ve treated and managed their idols in the past or maybe even now. It’s heartbreaking cause they know what they’re doing when they debut a group. They have some of the best vocalists, dancers, and rappers in the entire industry, yet they absolutely SUCK at managing (the treatment aspect of it that is). Maybe, just maybe, they can open their eyes and see that maybe some changes need to be made
@euphorloey8674
@euphorloey8674 4 жыл бұрын
Same, but I also feel like Sm has changed a lot, and is being better at managing idol and not mistreating them
@zzz7103
@zzz7103 4 жыл бұрын
@@euphorloey8674 And how about chinese members of NCT. I think, SM has not changed at all.
@callmedimsome
@callmedimsome 4 жыл бұрын
@@zzz7103 actually NCT get a *better* treatment, not a good one but better than their seniors
@zzz7103
@zzz7103 4 жыл бұрын
@@callmedimsome better doesn't mean good. You just compare worse with the worst treatment. Yes, maybe SM is a bit better with NCT chinese members, but they are mistreated. SM isn't much better than before. It's just my vision of situation.
@callmedimsome
@callmedimsome 4 жыл бұрын
@@zzz7103 bcs you said "has not changed at all" Yes, I said better even though not good enough🙂 I hate SM, but can't deny that they're making some improvements
@samstj2003
@samstj2003 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Amber's new song describes how she felt under SM the video everything just watch it if you haven't
@sssssulti
@sssssulti 4 жыл бұрын
after sulli's death. it is confirmed.
@mogumochi
@mogumochi 4 жыл бұрын
*Queen! 😩 it’s been so long since you’ve uploaded!* 💕💓💘💖
@chuusone4524
@chuusone4524 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!!
@mogumochi
@mogumochi 4 жыл бұрын
Taebin X thank you 💗
@mogumochi
@mogumochi 4 жыл бұрын
Jeonghan Yoon thank you so much 💖
@mogumochi
@mogumochi 4 жыл бұрын
A M I A Y A thank you 💓
@WhiteGumiho
@WhiteGumiho 4 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add that in the beginning, amber was mistreated by the managers because of her boyish looks, she "left" the group for a short period, until the group had a new manager, and then continued on with group activities. The company's administration (managers, coordinators, vice-president, president, etc.) seem to be very old fashioned and closed-minded, which is why a lot of their foreign artists suffer from mistreatment, racism and it can reach to even sexual harassment. It's so sad... This company is great at everything BUT taking care of their idols...
@user-zr4kk9iz6g
@user-zr4kk9iz6g 4 жыл бұрын
chaennie lisoo: open your eyes me: *OPEN YOUR RICE*
@alisa8963
@alisa8963 4 жыл бұрын
i like lee minho a lot hahaha I live for that song
@starrr_mark
@starrr_mark 4 жыл бұрын
*EAT JIN AND OPEN YOUR RICE*
@user-wk9lt5kz7s
@user-wk9lt5kz7s 4 жыл бұрын
and now we lost another angel. sm, please pay more attention to your artists mental health. i thought jonghyun would be the last but we lost another one. i really hope this is the last time. please, i beg you
@pamelaa.1356
@pamelaa.1356 4 жыл бұрын
You know it's going down when the creator is going to put more than 1 part up. Bless the lord, finally SM.
@igotflover2215
@igotflover2215 4 жыл бұрын
if two parts doesnt say anything idk what will
@taewae
@taewae 4 жыл бұрын
i'll never forgive SM for tearing TVXQ apart. they were literally legends at the peak of their careers, had the biggest fanclub in the world, and had so much more potential
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
IKR!!!
@yohan1778
@yohan1778 3 жыл бұрын
i was almost a trainee under this shitty company. im so happy that my parents stopped me last minute, after watching this video im convinced more that their decision was the right one
@selty
@selty 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling Suju, Dbsk and SNSD 2nd gen. Drives me crazy when younger fans call them 1st gen, DISRESPECTING THE OGs
@yorukaadams940
@yorukaadams940 4 жыл бұрын
_Seo Taiji And Boys_ flashbacks
@rockstar234
@rockstar234 3 жыл бұрын
SES,Boa are 1st gen
@zerro6961
@zerro6961 4 жыл бұрын
I saw an article about how SM treats their artists and tbh, I was in tears. In the article it was written that, artists (mostly male), went through many surgeries to make them look good. They went through leg surgery ( in which they'll cut their leg bone and put steel pipe like things in between the bones to make them taller😧😖), plastic surgery, jaw sharpening and many more sickening things.
@nctzenmyreveluvsoneexol3178
@nctzenmyreveluvsoneexol3178 3 жыл бұрын
Are u ever see SM artist predebut Before NCT debut (2016) they're SM rookies (Introduce their members) & until now i never see the different of them Changes They still same
@zerro6961
@zerro6961 3 жыл бұрын
@@nctzenmyreveluvsoneexol3178 no I'm not talking about NCT here. I'm talking about older gen artists. NCT was recent.
@floralfancy7814
@floralfancy7814 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen how poorly they treated F(x), what a shame that one of the top most popular, most money making companies gives such poor treatment to their breadwinners. It is a downright shame and they should fix themselves before they ruin their reputation.
@dianal1679
@dianal1679 4 жыл бұрын
SM didn't just get music shows to ban JYJ, they were also blacklisted from all the broadcasting stations. There were many years where JYJ couldn't even appear on TV (interviews, variety shows, etc), which has only kind of stopped recently. Also, after TVXQ's successful Korean debut, they were blindsided by the company and shipped off to Japan to try and break into the market there. They had a really difficult time in Japan at the beginning because SM didn't want to introduce them as a kpop group. So they had to start from zero. It seems to me that SM didn't provide enough (if any) support to them in Japan in the beginning because they talked about how hard it was for them, and how helpless and alone they felt in a foreign country. I also saw some people mention that SM keeps taking down TVXQ's older MVs where they were 5 members and reuploading them to keep the view count down. I don't know how true that is, but it does seem like the kind of petty bullshit SM would be into.
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
FACTs👏👏
@zeroo8124
@zeroo8124 4 жыл бұрын
SM, in my opinion, is literally the worst. Could you maybe do a list of all little companies, who are not treating their idols good?
@ricezzz2665
@ricezzz2665 4 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning JYJ is not the first instance SM bans broadcast exposure to a group, since in the early 2000's, when H.O.T disbanded and three members decided to continue as the trio jtl under another company, they were also interfered and actually caused headlines for it.
@hopedeleon8630
@hopedeleon8630 4 жыл бұрын
CSJH The Grace is the most tragic story. They have what it takes as DBSK girl version but wtf did SM did to these talented girls.. its sad.
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
Facts!! She Forgot to mention them along with the a girl group before them MILK!😑
@Cherytatime
@Cherytatime 4 жыл бұрын
I think Krystal will leave SM. The people she trusted in SM has lessen. She lost her bestfriend and brother in SM, SM ruined her sister, and I think she doesn't trust SNSD anymore. All her group members has left too. Honestly she probably only has SHINee to talk to in SM. So before things get worse I think it's better for her to be with her sister.
@cherryixing4372
@cherryixing4372 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how a lot of successful artists came from SM. Like, they had success, but at what cost? We'll never know exactly all the things they had to go through because of SM's shitty management. Only to have success and then be forgotten.
@namis6925
@namis6925 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw (part 1) I knew this was about to go in spilling all the tea 🍵 🐸 Like I’m ready to be enlightened
@sabrinajackson3980
@sabrinajackson3980 4 жыл бұрын
This takes on a whole new meaning now that SULLI is gone. SM does not take care of its idols
@babyfaec
@babyfaec 4 жыл бұрын
More relevant than ever
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 4 жыл бұрын
SM doesn't care
@purpleteardropss
@purpleteardropss 2 жыл бұрын
you can make the whole 1h video about how f(x) band was mistreated
@470George
@470George 4 жыл бұрын
I also hope someone shines light on Wendy's heartbreaking, ultra intense weight loss period. I recall seeing one video/vlive of Red Velvet during that period eating together and Wendy seems SCARED just to touch anything to lose weight.
@siennahartle9069
@siennahartle9069 2 жыл бұрын
It’s depressing to go back to this video and realize it was released a month before Sulli passed away. RIP to a beautiful soul who deserved so much better
@ipekyener6513
@ipekyener6513 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember Onew from SHINee saying how they constantly kept travelling from practice to fansign to concert and to promote their new album during tour that they had no time to sleep, they would only take short naps in the car while going to those places and it would go on for days
@shemoww
@shemoww 4 жыл бұрын
Dude i still cry over the whole TVXQ situation😔
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
Same😥
@kwueenjisoo2935
@kwueenjisoo2935 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that we will never really know about Jessica’s departure from SNSD
@Mashka14
@Mashka14 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating informative video on the Shady History SM Entertainment and how they treated their Artists and groups differently. Not Just SM Entertainment but other companies need to take seriously the Issue and Problem with Mental health as well. They have to protect their Idols from Malicious Statements and untrue false rumors towards their Artists on Social media
@itsyvonne6512
@itsyvonne6512 3 жыл бұрын
it's the wendy williams memes for me 😭
@Layla-td1pl
@Layla-td1pl 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this after hearing the news about Sulli. I had forgot about this video for awhile but I'm watching it now. Its not only the companies but the whole government needs to see that when their idols are "allegedly" using drugs or heavily drinking, its something seriously wrong. Depression is a serious issue. Mental Health is important.
@grace-sg5lu
@grace-sg5lu 4 жыл бұрын
so far 2 artists from sm have taken their own lives. they both complained about being exhausted and needing help, yet they didnt do anything. yeah, have to agree with you when you say sm is the worst company.
@rainymaddox5800
@rainymaddox5800 4 жыл бұрын
The 2nd generation slayed. My favorite is no other than one and only Girls' Generation!!!!
@TheHardestPill
@TheHardestPill 4 жыл бұрын
Looooove girl generation they were the first group that got me into kpop
@adimasmaulana7143
@adimasmaulana7143 3 жыл бұрын
Forever
@larafaith8051
@larafaith8051 4 жыл бұрын
they’re basically the worst kpop company out there. they mistreat the idols and trainees so much
@raeraeraeee
@raeraeraeee 4 жыл бұрын
I have moved on from what happened to Girls' Generation and I'm happy for all members - Taeyeon as a current group member and as a soloist, Jessica doing great with her solo activities and her business, Sunny with variety shows and her radio show, Tiffany as a soloist both in America and Korea, Hyoyeon as a DJ and a current member, Yuri as a soloist and current group member, Sooyoung as a model and other solo activities, Yoona as an actress and a current member, and lastly, Seohyun with her solo activities as a soloist. Still, a part of my youth belongs to Girls' Generation. 지구믄 소녀시대!! 💖
@jasoninthea.m7471
@jasoninthea.m7471 4 жыл бұрын
First. HAPPY BIRTHDAY GURRRRRRRL. YOU'RE AMAZING. I wished you on another video but anyways.
@trashalt2857
@trashalt2857 4 жыл бұрын
exposing the scum and doing a great job as per usual! we knew sm was bad, but this video really shows it. nice job!
@raizakm4898
@raizakm4898 4 жыл бұрын
We can't even begin with Shinee and Fx
@Jaminie
@Jaminie 4 жыл бұрын
*SM cannot help their idols reach the top of the charts. I said it-*
@nathanjones2473
@nathanjones2473 2 жыл бұрын
Run Devil Run originally sung by Kesha
@victoria-cp4ui
@victoria-cp4ui 2 жыл бұрын
wrong that was a demo
@Zionara_.
@Zionara_. 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this! I’m so happy and I appreciate all your hard work to research all of this information 🤗
@inhaleit
@inhaleit 4 жыл бұрын
This video makes me even sadder and angrier today. Whatever SM is doing, they're doing it wrong. I hope that the whole Idol industry gets better. More humane companies who care for their trainees/idols both about their physical and mental wellness. We are the people who get the companies thier money. We have a voice.
@mangaartist1995
@mangaartist1995 3 жыл бұрын
The voice to do what? I'm genuinely curious here, because how effective "cancelling" shitty companies can be when it doesn't change the conversation about entertainer's in korea. Like sure, one or two bad companies go bankrupt but I don't see any changes to how the whole Korean entertainment industry behaves/operates.
@inhaleit
@inhaleit 3 жыл бұрын
@@mangaartist1995 Hi my comment was 9months ago so I'm not in the same mindset as back then. I was myself depressed at the time and I was devastated (and still am ) Over many Idols mental state, I was in particular mad at SM since they seem to have the most artists suffering from problems with mental health (That we can see from the outside, what really happens at SM and what help they offer I have no idea.) I felt sad for the artists and I wanted to do something and I know SM don't listen to fans, like the pleas that they should protect their artists. So I thought that they might listen to the dollar. I'm not for Cancel culture at all. I am for Change! :)
@mangaartist1995
@mangaartist1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@inhaleit I wonder about how foreign fans declare that they have a voice/power to create change in kpop companies when the key reasons they do what they do is due to lax regulations on labour laws in Korea and that industry culture exclusive in Korea. On another note, when you think about small companies shutting down due to backlash on treating kpop trainees and idol like shit and yet those big companies still remained despite having the same scandals, is kinda messed up when you think about the money needed to run such companies. It seriously looks like small companies going out because they don't have enough resources to shield themselves from such public backlash instead of forcing companies to give their trainees better welfare, and those who do remains and gains more portion/power over Korea's entertainment industry. Like, how exactly a foreginer is going do anything effective to create actual legislative change in a foreign country. For all the shit talking about shitty companies, this point isn't exactly brought up.
@prismmoont1635
@prismmoont1635 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you going into deep details in this video because even though SM is a big company, they also hide a lot of things. The groups under SM deserve everything in the world because they put up with the bs that the company put them through and I can’t help but support each of them.
@goldenchainhoney7415
@goldenchainhoney7415 4 жыл бұрын
18:20 it breaks my heart to watch this after Sulli's death rest in peace, we love you
@gabslopes2692
@gabslopes2692 4 жыл бұрын
seriously i LOVE your videos. most of kpop companies SUCK and a lot of people seem to not see that, finally someone's taking time to show how shitty the companies are. could you do a video about t.o.p media ent.? a lot of people have become interested in jinhyuk and wooseok after produce x 101 but most have no idea of how poorly up10tion has been being managed, as well as all the other artist under t.o.p media, exposing their shitty management is a dream for me
@Name-es2uc
@Name-es2uc 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I knew that SM is not a good company but now I know better than ever before about their misstreatment. I'm glad that people like you are willing to point these issues out. Can't wait for the second part ! 💗
@supershepherd
@supershepherd 4 жыл бұрын
Sulli is another victim of SM and she deserved so much better
@elliez5342
@elliez5342 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow I did not expect this but at the same time I did. 😂 Anyways thank you for opening our eyes more on what goes on behind the scenes of companies.
@kghyeah9032
@kghyeah9032 4 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed how EVERY SM group has some sort of mismanagement controversy?
@killjoy8372
@killjoy8372 3 жыл бұрын
you made it sound like after JYJ won their second case everything was great, when in reality they're still shadow banned to this day by SM and were never able to appear or promote on tv. junsu appeared on tv for the first time last year after ten years, but is still unable to get any appearances or promote his songs on music programs or shows. he released a new mini-album last november "Pit-a-Pat" and couldn't perform it anywhere. you might've heard about the KBS fiasco where they claimed junsu wasn't able to perform on music bank because...he didn't facetime them. literally. they said "It would be difficult for [KBS] to explain our reasons for not casting one singer over another." and then later added "Artists who want to appear on a music show request ‘face time’ interviews in advance and we discuss their potential appearance together. I don’t know about other variety shows, but as the head of ‘Music Bank,’ I have never once received a ‘face time’ request from the artist in question." even after ten years the JYJ members are still suffering because of SM, so yeah they can suck a dick and please check out their music
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
So True!!
@Liz-np7gl
@Liz-np7gl 4 жыл бұрын
Besides the video being well made a d thought out... THIS TEA IS TASTEFUL OMG
@danisnotonchairs3561
@danisnotonchairs3561 4 жыл бұрын
SM has lost at least two of their artists to suicide and they haven't learnt ANYTHING!!!
@roseanne8046
@roseanne8046 4 жыл бұрын
hearing sulli's name now really breaks my heart...
@lololollol9766
@lololollol9766 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for the SM edition of this
@LanaBellaVargas
@LanaBellaVargas 4 жыл бұрын
damn sj was supposed to be rotation group like akb48? never knew that
@sassydee7842
@sassydee7842 4 жыл бұрын
pengu it was like akb48 but I believe sm was inspired by Morning Museum because they java had a rotation concept way before Akb48 and super junior.
@bunnywar
@bunnywar 4 жыл бұрын
kinda the same for nct, I believe the plan was to have a base stage and teams that perform at that base stage while others promote new music
@ciarapayne
@ciarapayne 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was Morning Musume they were looking at since they've been rotating since 1998 and just added their 15th gen of members. After School were inspired by them too since MM call their member departure stages 'graduation concerts'
@iamrhmt
@iamrhmt 4 жыл бұрын
They are but it got backlash from E.L.Fs so they stopped it, if im not wrong ...
@noodles2009isa
@noodles2009isa 4 жыл бұрын
why didn’t you talk about shinee and about how sm refused to keep up jonghyun’s memorial up in the sm building
@latae3699
@latae3699 4 жыл бұрын
PeachKitten true why ?
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын
wow😯
@minvi152
@minvi152 4 жыл бұрын
we dislike sm, sm hah, get it? cuz the acronym sm means so much but that’s also the name of the company so it’d be like “we dislike SM, so much” hah i’m not funny
@w.iroses
@w.iroses 4 жыл бұрын
9 or None no you are not but ima laugh anyway 😂😂
@minvi152
@minvi152 4 жыл бұрын
Dorothy Stevenson idk if that makes me feel good or bad but thanks 😂
@_cherrychi_
@_cherrychi_ 4 жыл бұрын
9 or None lol okay 😂
@diamyized_kat9032
@diamyized_kat9032 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, that was funny all right. Good job, fellow human.😂👏👏🤗 I'm your 24th like, btw. :>
@hannie6654
@hannie6654 4 жыл бұрын
It’s also sadism and masochism
@ashullu
@ashullu 4 жыл бұрын
the fact that sm needs more than one video..
@vventi
@vventi 4 жыл бұрын
I MISS YOU SO MUCH QUEEN! THE TEA HAS BEEN COLD LATELY..THANK GOD YOU UPLOADED!
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