i don't even know if this was meant to be a positive comment, but it's definitely the best comment

This aged badly lmao

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall positive lol. I barely remember leaving it though. I was saying your AU is better than the real thing... probably?

I did attempt to play birth by sleep but it never managed to hold my attention like the first 2 games did.

@@talison461 2 games You mean rechain of memorys

​@mafra3117 that simply because of the fragmented piece of Ventus' heart in Sora's. Has nothing to do with keyblade. The most you could argue is the keyblade went to Sora after Riku fell to darkness due to a bit of Ventus' heart but again that's just a no-prize explanation.

@mafra3117 so at some point in BBS Ventus was in super danger and was almost eradicated but sent his heart to the nearest place for safety and it found Sora even he was a kid. Sora agreed to protect his heart when he was young and sorta forgot so when he went Heartless in KH1 the nobody that showed up took shape because of Ventus being pure light at that point gave him some material to take shape and formed Roxas. It's partially why Wanitas looks like evil Sora too but that's even harder to explain

Yeah, but even this explanation has holes in it. If Sora got the keyblade that was supposedly bequeathed to Riku, how did Riku just manifest his own independent of Sora's later on? The difference in appearance could also just be explained as the keychain being swapped out. We don't see him take it back from Kairi, but we also don't really see her use it again for a LONG time (and only in a later entry), so in the context of KH2, it's plausible that he just took it back off screen. I'm not saying I agree with Sight's "borrowing" explanation, but the fact is that the rules relating to keyblade ownership and inheritance are vague and convoluted, largely due to numerous retcons, making some level of interpretation necessary. Sharing a heart or being someone's Nobody/replica is sufficient in other entries to bestow the ability to wield a keyblade (see Roxas and Xion), so it stands to reason that Sora could wield a keyblade because he was a vessel for Ventus. Thematically, it also lines up since the game clearly establishes Ventus, Terra, and Aqua as being parallels to Sora, Riku, and Kairi, respectively, even down to the etymology of their names. Each of these pairs have an event in BBS that links them to each other: Terra's encounter with Riku on Destiny Islands, Aqua's encounter with Kairi in Radiant Garden, and Sora sheltering Ventus' disembodied heart. Given that it's strongly implied that Terra and Aqua bequeathed their keyblades during these moments, it would be a weird and incongruent choice to not have the same hold true for the pair of Ventus and Sora. That said, the whole "keyblade bequeathing" thing is really stupid, sucks the remaining magic and mystery out of the keyblade, and has its own share of inconsistencies. Clearly, bequeathing a keyblade isn't a hard requirement to using one since Axel just kind of manifests one despite not going through the ceremony. The ceremony also doesn't literally give that keyblade to the bestowee, since Lingering Will still has his keyblade despite Sora supposedly wielding the one Terra bestowed. Even if the one Terra bestowed is actually Riku's Way to the Dawn, that one is still accounted for. The keyblade warriors during the Age of Fairytales just made and used them as replicas of the X-blade, so that doesn't match, either. So if bestowing isn't a requirement to wield a keyblade, and it doesn't transfer ownership of an existing keyblade, what does it actually do? How can the game simultaneously claim that a keyblade chooses its wielder and also that it can be bestowed, when these two things are clearly contradictory? Etc, etc.

@@kbm_seymour nomura has already come out and said that ventus had nothing to do with sora wielding the keyblade, the keyblade canonically choose him. the story never says that sora has a keyblade because of ventus it just says that hes asleep in sora's heart

I don’t remember but I don’t think anyone passed the ability like aqua and terra did but sora was chosen because riku turned to the darkness And then the whole thing with ven and keyblade is that he’s the reason sora can hold 2 keyblades in KH2 This technically means sora can’t do that anymore as of KH3s end ( although if kiari could have a keyblade that early on as well it’s interesting that as far back as KH1 sora could have been zoro with 3 keyblades

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@@Unstable_45_degree_angle I had to get it out of my system bro😂😂😂

Just a pancake is watching

@@Genesis-ty8fr I bet he’s proud

To be fair, that's consistent with Eraqus' extremist anti-darkness mentality.

Eraqus has always been training her fight the darkness it makes sense that to fulfill her duty it blinded her in the process

Which three were they again? I forgot so much about this game because, like, all the cutscenes amount to 12 hours and a bog to go through here on KZfaq

@@zero1zerolast393 Cinderella's stepfamily.

Lol Aqua was completely justified Cinderella's fam were jerks Lol nah, I love that cutscene. I was thinking "She was gonna kill them....?? ..... Christ Aqua! Relax!!"

He doesn't just look like Sora, he looks like an *adult* Sora when *adult* Sora didnt exist yet.

You might was well get a new puppet body and regrow your heart while you're at it.

Recom is but bbs is still pretty bad Edit: I meant re:coded

@@nothanksfools no i think most people agree that ReCoded (or the mobile games if you count them as games) are the worst

@@CaleMcGowan fellas, worst games are obviously between BBS, DDD, and KH3. The h.a.n.d. DS games were at least true to what came before. The abilities systems took a portable turn sure, but the combat was smooth and innovative. Osaka started a floatfest, all over their command deck/attack animations being lazily slopped together. They kept the trend going by reusing the same system in DDD, and toned it down making KH3 animations just a LITTLE floaty. The floats ruin the gameplay, ruins pretty much the whole game for me, I haven’t touched those games since I beat them.

@@nothanksfools at least Re:CoM works how it’s supposed to, most just complain about difficulty.

@@mistayoutubah kh3 is no where near the worst game in the series, disappointing? Definitely. I agree with DDD solely because of the stupid dream eaters and the fact that it poorly introduces time travel.

Oh just wait, the reason Ven holds it funny is gonna somehow change how we understand everything whenever Nomura gets around to explaining it in a spinoff trilogy where each platform only gets one of the three games

He was the first weilder to use 2 keyblades.

They should have described Ventus wanting to learn more about himself and his true identity.

​@@ZeranZeranreally?

@@ElevatedScvrecrow Really!

Also random thing. You mention that the VAs didn’t do good in this game because of some reasons that I don’t care about. If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Christopher Lee read the ENTIRE script of KH2 so that he could portray Ansem the Wise the best he could? Whether it’s true or not is irrelevant though, since even if he didn’t, he clearly gave it his all. I don’t know why the BBS team/VAs decided to both write and make the main trio speak in such a way that makes them the audio equivalent of watching paint dry, but boy do I hate it.

It's funny because kh2 has a terrible story. But because it has the Best gameplay ( i almost agree) no one bats an eye. BBS does have some problems from being portable, sames as mgs peace walker. But they are so impresive as portable games that i think they deserve some Slack.

@@Metalgearfox2000 No, people “give KH2’s story a pass” because it isn’t bad at all. What are you on about? As for “give it credit for being a portable game”, reminder that 358 Days came out before BBS, on weaker hardware (the DS), and was still a better game than BBS.

@@pikachufrankie it's terrible, im not Even gonna argue if you like it. Objectively is a waste of time more than half of the Game.

@@Metalgearfox2000 If you think that over half the game was a waste of time, you weren’t paying attention to the story of KH2 at all. Your first visits to most of the Disney worlds isn’t pointless. For starters, you are unknowingly working to help Org 13 by trekking through the Disney worlds, as releasing the hearts helps Org 13 with their goals. You don’t know that until you’re hit with the revelation in Hollow Bastion’s revisit, which wouldn’t have as much of a punch to it if you had known beforehand that you were helping the villains. You’re lulled into a false sense of security; that the game will be very story-lite and it’s just a nice romp through the Disney worlds, until you have the rug ripped out from under your feet. By no means do I think KH2’s story is the best or anything, but it has a reason for being structured the way it is. I prefer KH1’s story, but I’m not going to pretend like 2’s is bad because it’s structured in a way I don’t prefer. Could the 1st visits to Disney worlds have used more foreshadowing and symbolism for Org 13, like how the Experiment enemy from Halloween Town is a clear parallel to the nobodies? Absolutely, it absolutely could have used more of it. Setups and payoffs, friend. Claiming that half the game is “objectively a waste of time” is disingenuous. As for BBS, the game’s story isn’t a “waste of time” in the sense that nothing happens, a lot happens actually. It’s just that what happens is complete garbage, where every character acts like a moron and makes stupid decisions that the game pretends are rational and wise.

Actually good comment. BBS is not a good game but this guy needs to stop spreading so much misinformation

Thanks for this.

The Keyblade War was never mentioned in kh2. Only the secret ending showed a random battle with tons of dead keyblades

Back when kh2 was first released, before bbs was even teased and I thought Sora was going to die in the next game, my first assumption upon seeing an entire field of keys stuck in the ground was that there was a large battle of some sort, hence a war. It definitely carried a largely desolate feeling. It was just confirmed in BBS after that, so it was mostly an implication that was confirmed after the fact. Much like how the hooded figure (Roxas) dual wielding keyblades in the KH1 secret ending implied that there was more than 2 Keyblades which then was answered in KH2

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFallSo, it was mentioned in KH2

​@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall 🤦🏼

Yeah, that sounds like the kind of convoluted lore I would expect from post-KH2 KH. Thanks for the insight, and I hope you enjoyed the video!

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall I really enjoyed and agree, it IS convoluted. The worst thing is that the Keyblade Type explanation is really useful if mentioned by the characters and being shown more effectively. But anyway, Nomura didn't even bother to give Xemnas a Keyblade (even though he had one), so guess I can't expect much from him trying to fill the gaps he made.

@@ilucasz about xemnas I thought it was obvious that he can't use the keyblade since he's a nobody and nobody are just hollow shell with no hearts and you need a strong heart to wield one

Roxas?

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall yea I didn't of him hahaha in that case idk

hey, thanks for being approximately the 400th person to claim I don't know the Kingdom Hearts lore! if you'll direct your attention to my other multi-hour long KH videos, you'll see that I did indeed play the other games, and I'm sorry I came away from them with a different interpretation of some of the worst, most vague and unhelpful lore ever seen in a video game. Enjoy the rest of the video!!!!!!

​@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFallbut you dont understand kh lore tho? Lol you can 100% every game and still misunderstand things( this goes for every game or show or book ever etc)

JACK SPARROW NEXT KEYBLADE WEILDER CONFIRMES

@@d.saunders2506 Donald and Goofy next welders cause of the final trinity

I think the most fundamental disagreement I have that covers a lot of Sight's critiques is this: BBS was a PS2 game that got scaled down to a PSP game and probably had a crapton cut. It is one of the most ambitious PSP games along with FF Type 0, but it is also being compared to some of the best Action RPGs in the PS2 era (some would argue the best ARPG gameplay of all time). I will have my biases here simply because I originally played this on PSP and it was mind blowing in a very early smartphone era (for reference, this was during the Iphone 3G days, a full year before IPhone 4 would show off Infinity Blade) to have something like KH1.5 in my pocket. The glow up going from Days a year prior was simply unheard of. So wihle I agree with many critiques I also excuse them I suppose. Is the camera rough? Yup, but the PSP didn't have a right analog stick. Could there have been more story/playtime? I guess, but a 30 hour RPG on a handheld was already on the longer side, and this thing was one of the largest PSP games as is if you dowloaded an ISO. Are the worlds empty? I guess... but lack of environment detail would be an issue until DDD (Good details and verticality, but the had to make areas HUGE and make it feel empty anyway).

My God, a civil, well adjusted human being. In 2024? I can't believe it. I'm with you in that I don't really agree with all of sights points or opinions, but he does raise some good ones. I'm glad there is some level of healthy discussion, and especially glad that you got pinned. Awesome display of character on sights part for giving light to the people that don't agree with him in a healthy manner.

Arguing your point is different from not being able to handle opinions. From what I've seen, people are just debating their side. Saying things along the lines of "Your opinion sucks, and I hate you" would be not being able to handle an opinion. Saying "I disagree with you, and here's reasons why:" is just debating. A lot of people don't seem to be able to differentiate between debating and not being able to handle differences.

Totally. This is sort of explained in KH:Dark Road where you see the friendship of YX and Eraqus. But even then it's odd Erqaus just overlooks this and is never concerned or does anything to fix it

I'm assuming that first cutscene with Xehanort bodying Eraquis was many years apart to where Xehanort wrote Eraquis apologizing to him and/or bringing Ventus there. Before that happened, i don't think could've really done anything against Xehanort at their clash at the Land Of Departure. Xehanort was pretty strong bit was also growing stronger due to the power of darkness, which has been used many times to give huge amps. Not to mention, there wasn't many reliable ways to track him down. You could also mark it up as Eraquis bring pretty naive to accept his apology too 😅

​@@taecampus That basically is what happened, yeah. Eraqus basically went "Well, he IS one of my only surviving friends and my children, effectively, ARE having a big day, it'd be stupid not to invite him if HE'S willing to reach out, right?" only for things to then break down completely. Great tragery of betrayal and everything Then that was retconned in KH3

@@PixelHeroViish yeah, I love KH3 alot but I wasn't a fan of them switch Xehanort's true intentions towards the end. I know in Dark Road it covers that, goes deeper into that and actually does pretty well with that plot/future intentions.... It was just never really hinted beforehand that he wanted to essentially restart everything. Be just seemed like an old guy who thought darkness was the true essence of everything

@@taecampus It's extra funny cuz the whole "Balance" thing was at some point mentioned BY HIM, I believe, so he was just a straight-up extreme about his methods curious old man Honestly they could've laid the building blocks for his KH3 motivation in this one quite easily

Just because 3D was worse with it doesn't excuse the fact BBS started it. It was just continuing what BBS started, plans within plans, story details meant to sequel bait, taking away the magic of the series. It effectively killed in narratively, and it's gameplay is surprisingly incompetent

@@cryguy0000 "Just because 3D was worse with it doesn't excuse the fact BBS started it." On a core level, sure. Three's some writing stuff that probably carried over and never corrected (except the EN voice drection, that did improve). But on an execution level, I kind of disagree. The thing I hate the most about DDD is what it retroactively does to other games AND future games. Because it adds mechanics that let people mess with the timeline and entire world order. I could do an entire rant on retroactive time travel but I think people watching a 2 hour KH video gets that. What I think is REALLY underhated is the whole "power of waking" ability. Which was a horrible mcGuffin in Kh3 that made it feel the most meandering game yet, and is now a convenient, barely explained excuse to just jump to new dimensions. Also Sleeping Worlds were a meh excuse for new worlds, even if I love Symphony of Sorcery. UX kinda saves some of the hate I had for Dream Eaters, but also angers me as yet another mechanic used to bridge timelines. Cool, now anyone in UX (that didn't *spoiler*) can be in KH4 because they were hibernating (and we know eventually they will find a way to turn dream eaters back. Probably Power of Waking), and the rest of the UX crew has time travel. Good job DDD. While people may not like the retcons in BBS (I like them fwiw), they don't fundamentally change much of the OG trilogy or Days. So even if I hated BBS I can't hate it more than DDD because it's harmless in the grand scheme of things. They could never show the wayfinder trio in KH4/5/6 and it wouldn't really miss much. Even stuff like Bequeathing could be explained by Dark Road instead of BBS (Mark of Mastery is covered by DDD if you skip BBS). It may introduce OG Xehanort, but TBH it would be kinda cool if you skipped BBS and then you get a reveal of the OG by the end of DDD. You'd just miss the chance to see him flex his power like he did in that cool KH2 secret ending)

​@@cryguy0000BBS did start the messy crap, that's absolutely true and there's no excuse for it all, but it's ALSO true that DDD just did everything worse aswell. Both of these suck, but for different reasons Except for getting Magnet or Ars Solum early, that's actually fun at least

KH was only simple in KH1

@d.saunders2506 Say what you will about KH2 overcomplicating things - and there is in fact plenty to say on the matter - all of the information and lore KH2 introduced was digestible and understandable within the context of its runtime, without any additional context required to understand or appreciate what's going on. BBS, in comparison, introduces so much absolute nonsense, and elaborates on... well, less than half of it, with concepts that they actually try to explain still not making sense. Arguably it does this even worse than DDD, if only because it has so many more things that require more context, while DDD mostly just utilizes time travel with the worst execution I've ever seen.

Another one is the Roxas fight, when he calls back the keyblade at the end

I think the true but unfortunate answer is that lending out keyblades was never a thing, and that scene with Riku handing Kairi a keyblade was more or less a narrative mistake. Every other interaction in the series prior to BBS related to keyblades is pretty consistent about the keyblade only being usable by someone it deems worthy, which explains what happens w/ Leon and Jack Sparrow. The anti-theft explanation doesn't quite line up since Riku is able to "take" Sora's keyblade in KH1 (who arguably "took" it from Riku first) and Riku is able to use Roxas' keyblade during their fight. If the keyblade only cares if the wielder is worthy and not if the wielder is its single master, this all still makes sense. Roxas being able to use the keyblade can be explained as him getting that ability by proxy through Sora, which would also hold true for Xion. Riku just handing Kairi a keyblade with its own unique thematically-fitting keychain out of thin air while still having his own is so contrary to the established rules of the keyblade that it's honestly baffling. My guess is that they wanted Kairi to have a more pro-active role towards the end of the story in KH2 and make good on her promise to protect Sora for a change, so they contrived this scenario to make that possible at the expense of the established rules of the universe.

Kingdom Key seems special however, as it's the only keyblade I can remember that another person can even hold, let alone use.

SHHHHH that ruins his arguments!

Honestly, I don't mind there being many Keyblade wielders, but they need to keep the process of getting a Keyblade special. You can't just "give" someone the ability to use the Keyblade. I think this is the biggest problem people have when it comes to the Keyblade. "The Keyblade chooses its master" established in KH1 needs to stay.

Important detail to remember was that BBS was re-written from what was planned originally during KH2. In 2005, BBS was being developed on PS2 with Sora as main protagonist, and it would’ve been a sequel to KH2. The same Tokyo devs/artists/masterminds from KH1 and KH2 were on development. EVERYTHING CHANGED when Square got PS3 devkits in 2006, they sent Final Fantasy 13 from PS2 to PS3 along with FFvs13 and Type-0, and they sent BBS to PSP to be restarted with Osaka. FF went back to AAA status, KH became AA handheld series for 10 years. KHBBS had a separate writer, with Nomura directing with a co-director Square hired on for the first time ever, to “assist” Nomura; which really meant censoring his more dark and mature themes he wanted to introduce to the series via the Keyblade War. He instead was assigned to direct FFvs13, which would give him his creative freedom (somewhat). Now as for WHAT Nomura was cooking with the original Sora BBS? Nobody knows, but it was presumably intended be tied directly to lore established in KH1 and KH2 (which suggested Keyblade wielder’s are chosen ones, although never fully explained). Not only did the BBS restart effect the lore of BBS, it has effected the LORE UNIVERSE in every title moving forward, except for arguably 358/2 Days since that was Nomura’s final time fulfilling the role as sole “writer”, written before BBS as a way to explain Roxas’s Organization XIII drama from KH2. More people with Keyblades WAS always intended via Keyblade War (post KH2)… but it’s worth noting that there was an entirely different continuation of events written to follow KH2, and we are for all intents and purposes in an alternate lore timeline which exists out of sync with KH1’s and KH2’s narratives (as you pointed out). Nomura wrote what he wrote, then they took the wheel from Nomura and changed it and just kept truckin’. I’m sure Nomura’s original plan for explaining multiple wielders (including explaining Kairi’s Keyblade) was at least going to make sense, rather than taking such a sharp and uncomfortable turn into random new wielders spawning out of literally nowhere and not needing to be chosen by the key at all. It went from “the key chooses” to “the master chooses”… only problem with that narrative is that our current MAIN PROTAGONIST (Sora) never had a master choose him (his later adopted “master” for purpose of MoM Exam alone, is Yen Sid - who we’ve never seen with a Keyblade once even as the world is ending) and it also defeats the whole purpose of KH1 Sora and Riku fighting over the Kingdom Key and Sora being left with his wooden sword. I agree with the uploader, and I believe that corporate SE did a worse job of telling Nomura’s story, that Nomura should have told by himself.

@@mistayoutubah You see, the problem with everything you just, is dependent on Nomura having been locked out of BBS and Kingdom Hearts as a franchise and unable to have any control over it. Which was absolutely not the case. Nomura was still in charge of the franchis as a whole and Osaka worked under him and wasn't just some corporate team that took over the franchise away from Nomura. BBS going from a sequal to a prequal was not something forced by SE, that was still Nomura's decision. He decided that BBS would tell the story of the three armored Keyblade wielders from their point of view rather then have Sora learn of it second hand. Also, all the stuff of BBS being a sequal was very early planning and development. It was all early concept with vague ideas and never left that stage before it was switched to a prequal. Also also, my point still stands that there being multiple Keyblade wielders was not something BBS just invented with no set up to it. KH2 set up a past where many people weilded keyblades and set up the armored Keblade weilders having a connection to Xehanort. Nothing in BBS was just out of the blue.

@@kevinbell5674 You see, the problem with all of what you just said is that it is spoken strictly through the lens of an unconcerned product consumer. You clearly have no knowledge of NDA’s or what they are or how powerful they can be to sometimes even control someone’s entire life… but I will save this educational paragraph on NDA’s for after my main correction of your comment. BBS was a year and a half into development on PS2, it was no “very early concept” at all. It began DEVELOPMENT on PS2 in June of 2005, and was cancelled when PS3 devkits came in November of 2006. You saying it was only “vague ideas and never left that stage before it was switched to a prequal” is entirely false. BBS, Coded, and 358/2 Days were all announced together at Tokyo Game Show in September of 2007, less than a year after the hardware/budget change. Also, KH2 did set up Xemnas’s armor to be expanded upon later in BBS; it also featured the three armored heroes we see in the secret movie with the Kingdom Key D, Way To Dawn, and RainFell (Aqua’s Key). This was RETCONNED and CHANGED from what was being WRITTEN and DEVELOPED originally for BBS. No BBS didn’t “invent” new Keyblade wielders, but the WAY they introduced them is thematically incorrect and not in sync with the lore that was pre-established. The WAY is equally as important as the WHAT. An NDA is abbreviation for Non-Disclosure Agreement, which is a contract which you sign promising not to speak or reveal information about certain topics, an NDA can even REQUIRE YOU TO LIE (such as Andrew Garfield lying about not being in Spider-Man No Way Home). If you violate this type of contract, you can be sued for pretty much whatever is in your particular contract and obviously if it’s on purpose you’ll lose your job and career since nobody in any corporate industry will ever work with you again for fear of bad PR (public relations). A recent example was the DOOM Eternal drama with Mick Gordon, the music producer for the DOOM games for years. He was offered hush-money and an NDA promising to take blame for Bethesda even though it was their fault, and he wouldn’t be allowed to speak about it ever or even so much as publicly criticize Bethesda if he’d agreed. He declined their settlement and he’s suing them now, making it all public and Bethesda hates their life. Did you know that EVERY SINGLE employee of Square Enix is required to be contracted under NDA to do ANY job within the company? That’s right, no sign, no job. They’re all working there now because they already signed their NDA’s. Literally almost every game company does this with their devs, designers, artists, directors, voice actors, HR departments EVERYTHING. Furthermore, Square Enix has even gone as far as to hire KZfaqRS under NDA in the past, giving them exclusive access to demos/information as long as they promise not to reveal certain details of the game to the fanbase… You can be contracted under NDA to only speak positively about a product and never criticize it, and most NDA’s don’t allow you to even tell people you’re under NDA. There are very few companies who will allow their devs to go on Twitter and post status updates for their community (these are usually fighting games, since the fanbase is heavily concerned regarding patches/updates). FOR CLARIFICATION, NOMURA HAS BEEN AT SQUARE SINCE FF6 IN 1994. He signed a looooooooong time ago, and continues to sign NDA’s as they pop up so that he may continue his work. So back to your comment about him being locked out of BBS and having basically no control; that is very correct. He could pitch an idea, but he wasn’t even writer and had a co-director credited for doing at least as much as he was… Nomura is the original creator of the series, and now he stands by as the face of the brand to wave in whatever new changes SE feels like. He could leave, but then he wouldn’t be able to continue to do what he loves, and they’d just keep making KH without him anyway. Did you know the “officially stated reason” by Nomura himself for moving BBS to PSP from PS2? He says officially, and I cannot make this up, that HE HIMSELF made the choice to restart the whole game for cheaper on PSP for sake of… Multiplayer in the mirage arena. THAT IS A LIE. PS2 could’ve handled mirage arena fine, and not only that but WHY NOT MOVE TO PS3 FOR MULTIPLAYER LIKE ALL THE OTHER MULTIPLAYER GAMES OF THE GENERATION??? Because BBS isn’t freaking multiplayer outside of 1 single feature that they didn’t even care enough about to bring back for the remaster because “waaah server cost”. It was a budget move. We got screwed. Nomura covered for stinky corporate SE and they payed him for it, because rightfully it was his only option. He is a captive scapegoat for SE cash grabs. SE and Disney HATE the secret movie of KH2 and they HATE the fact that they revealed they were making it on PS2, because of accountability. They made a greedy decision, SE did not “accidentally” save millions of dollars by making handheld games and charging full price. Look at every project they’ve released, every ReMix on every console and PC which failed to feature a 358/2 Days and Coded Re:Make (which they’re capable of), every unplayable $100 Switch Cloud Port KH collection, every Melody of Memory with PS2 graphic model quality, every handheld and every mobile game that should’ve all been console games (Union X especially because it’s the literal lore-seed). Square Enix ain’t ya friends, they want your MUNNY, which you will soon realize as they break out their ridiculous NFT scam later this year (SE wrote a letter to the community on Jan 1st, 2023 claiming they’re delving fully into NFT’s unapologetically). It’s a pattern to be honest.

Check out the kh2fm secret cutscene it's the original version of that song and the video Fate of the Unknown is the song's name. The cutscenes in the game are based on taht short film.

when kh3 is better than all of the games setting it up

@@johangodojolo8652 the logic? Isn’t that how it should be? You expected kh3 to be worse??? What’s your point?

@@sketchtheparadigmyork1217 what

The setup was a bad mess that kh3 had to clean up, overcomplicated mess, too many answers to stuff unto one game, with the questions themselves executed horribly. Should have had half the games we had as 'setup'.

@@jesterjaded73 Again, that's not BBS fault, that's fucking Nomura dude. If KH3 disappointed why are you directing your hate to BBS?

Sounds like you just don't like anime fantasy

What’s even more stupid imo is that shouldn’t it be made from the kingdom key and kingdom key D? Why is it two light keyblades instead of one keyblade representing pure light and one keyblade representing pure darkness like this game suggests as the recipe to forge it?

​@@taputrainer8463and it looks more like a standard sword than a keyblade. They could have atleast put teeths on it. The only keyblades without teeth i can think of are the modern looking ones (fenrir, Braveheart)

@@brotbrotsen1100 Yeah, and in complete fairness, *even those are still explicitly "keys",* they're just shaped like modern keys. The X-Blade is shaped like a sword.

​@@taputrainer8463 I believe that eventually it's going to have some form of lore connection to Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D. It would explain why the two are so different than other keyblades and also why they reside on destiny islands (the place where Ventus was split and Vanitas was born. It only makes sense that when Ventus heart returned to Sora, the pieces of the X-blade did as well.

Then that should have been explained, instead of just "What, there might something be in there? Well, not for me tho!" It's literally as easy as implementing a textbox saying something akin to "The door won't open. Must be locked."

@@lpfan4491 That's true tho, it wasn't hard to maybe say "It's locked with magic"

While the damage floor point was technically true, it's interesting to note that that issue was only fixed in the HD remaster of BBS, and even then, they overcompensated and made level 1 crit one of the easier ways to play by buffing your damage after a certain point. While I stand by my statement that BBS is the worst, perhaps a better way of framing it within the context of the series is that BBS had the most squandered potential. DDD was always going to be subpar with the story it had. BBS had tons of potential, and it was wasted.

You can do fine damage in DDD lvl1. With optimized spirit builds and magic boosts you can do maybe even better damage than bbs. DDD YX lvl1 no commands is one of my favorite kh videos on youtube and it proves this

@@johangodojolo8652 You… do understand that *one optimized fight* doesn’t prove anything other than “being the exception and not the rule?” Anything that requires the time, tedium, and RNG involved in the optimization of the spirits… JUST to make DDD *function like a normal KH game* is not a good defense. You are jumping through so many hoops, just to meet the *base standard* of what your damage output *should have been,* had damage floors been a thing from the get-go. Instead of providing me an *end-game* fight as your “proof,” did you ever stop to think about how *getting to that point* would’ve looked? Please. *Play the game* up to that point and tell me how that worked out for you for every World.

@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic Pls look at my channel. I've uploaded an entire DDD lvl1 no spirits run. I'm well aware of how DDD functions. Pls dont assume stuff you don't know to make a point. I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of sprit optimization tedium. It's a very simple process to get the right spirits for a good build and there's next to no significant rng involved. And yea there is a little but of grinding to get a build suitable for a fucking lvl1 run but that's to be expected isn't it. KH3 has you grinding for star medals and keyblade upgrades. KH2 has you grinding growth abilities and equipment. BBS has the most grindy lvl1 run by miles with its absurdly long command/abilities grinds. I used Young Xehanort as the example here because hes the hardest fight in the game. You can just as easily use a powerful strength build in any other fight in the game to do comperable levels of damage. I'm also not exactly sure why you're using the lvl1 run as some sort of standard for the entire games quality here. Yeah DDD doesn't have very good damage scaling but I'm not seeing how it makes the game on any playthrough thats not lvl1 bad. BBS also has dogshit damage scaling with no damage floor. They just threw in a random hidden ability on 0 EXP to make lvl1 possible instead of actually fixing the issue at its source. Only on the console version tho. PSP has to live with a lvl1 that is incapable of letting you do anything more than the smallest chip damage possible.

I mean...do you really want to do this? Because everything you listed is either wrong, based on your own individual interpretation of eventsand not canonical, or retroactively explained in a future game, with the exception of the Keyblade of People's Hearts

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall From Nomura himself in the Director's Secret Reports XIII: p. 28; Tetsuya Nomura: "There isn't just one Keyblade for the side of light and one for darkness. There are as many Keyblades in existence as there are hearts qualified to wield them. At this stage, the only requirement that has been made clear is that someone must have a "strong heart", but there are other requirements that haven't been spelled out yet which I plan to reveal another time when I have the chance. Riku's Way to the Dawn and the Keyblade Kairi wields are of the same nature as Sora's Keyblade. However, what with one having developed with the Soul Eater as intermediary and one having been handed to Kairi by Riku, I would like you to think that something not fully explained, outside the usual method of acquirement, is going on here."

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall Also, the bequeathing, as shown with Riku, happens through the receiver touching the bequeather's Keyblade. Kairi touched Aqua's Keyblade, and thus, even if accidental, was bequeathed.

So, let me get this straight: you expect me to trust an extra report that came in a limited edition of a Japanese exclusive booklet for the limited edition of KH2FM? From a guy that changes his mind and introduces new out-of-nowhere twists very regularly because he thinks it's cool? You don't have any examples in the games themselves, no argument based on evidence that the games present to us? Where was this information in KH2FM. I read the reports in that game, and there was nothing of the sort mentioned. If it isn't clear, I heavily believe in this: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathOfTheAuthor

See, that's an example of you projecting your interpretation and/or pulling from future entries. Nowhere is that stated clearly in BBS. You might be able to point to future entries, but in BBS and before, there's nothing of the sort.

damn so i was even wrong about what year bbs came out and the system it was released for? wild...

and you were right, because they only spittin truth.

It's like a weird shonen anime series, where the girls usually take a backseat for the guys to be strong and cool. Just a weird quirk

Alternatively, it can be seen as supremely insulting/potentially misogynistic

She beat Vanitas the second fight and beat Terranort and survived as long as she did In the realm of Darkness. KH always makes it's woman look strong.

What....? 😅 Besides given the title of being a Master, she kinda proved it as well mate. Besides trashing the Unversed in the many worlds, helping and saving people in those worlds. She kicks Vanitas butt like 3 times, granted Mickey was there the last time but Vanitas (Ventus fused) had the literal X-Blade. She pretty much beats Braig without resorting to darkness like Terra did. Changed her dying world into another, pretty much saving it from falling completely into the Realm of Darkness, while keeping Ventus safe and out of harms way. Beats up TerraNort, then saves him from falling into darkness. Then, while in the Realm of Darkness (aka KH Hell), she spends like 10 years fighting powerful heartless, saved Riku, got saved from the ROD and still fought evenly with an amped up Vanitas, without even resting. Not to mention the stuff she pulled off in the Keyblade Graveyard. She's far from a damsel in distress and definitely earn her title of being a master 😅

Damsel in distress!?!? She literally yeeted terranort out of the realm of darkness and survived there for years...

The reports still don't answer the question of why there are so many Keyblades of light and darkness now, when there were only pke each before now. Riku gifts Kairi a Keyblade in KH2, she doesn't have one of her own yet. We know there are other realms between light and darkness because of the existence of the Nobodies who exist between them, and they must exist in some space. So, I positited the possible of a Keyblade existing for a realm in-between light and darkness so Riku could use the Keyblade. KH2 never directly refers to Way to the Dawn as a Keyblade either, so my justification is a bit unnecessary anyway. Those reports you mentioned also don't explain the functional difference between Keyblades of light and darkness that would necessitate splitting them between light and dark, which is a whole other issue. Since when were Keyblades made of 'hearts'? That thing definitely made no sense, because they had to invent a whole new category of Keyblade to do so, according to another commenter.

​​@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall did you read my comment? I said that the keyblade of heart is literally made of the Princesses of Hearts' hearts. Watch the cutscene again, you'll see balls of light (their hearts) flying back to their respective bodies If Riku gifted Kairi a keyblade, under the explanation of there only being one keyblade per realm (which there are not; there is merely just a RoD counterpart to each RoL keyblade, not one per realm) where did that keyblade come from? If there is only one keyblade per realm, Sora has the RoL, Mickey has the RoD, and Riku (I guess, in your explanation, even though it's untrue) has the Realm Between. Where did hers come from, if Riku is wielding his own keyblade in the scene he gives her Destiny's Embrace?

​​@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall also, the reports literally say "the first and second families differ only in origin," already explaining the difference between the Keyblades of Light and Darkness, in that there really isn't one, only that one of each is needed to seal the door to darkness from their respective sides (which we see in KH1, and is explained in 0.2 Fragmentary Passage if you want them to outright say it. Probably mentioned in some Nomura interviews at the time of KH1 as well, like with the confirmation that Sora was never the original recipient of the keyblade and Riku was, and how Sora only got the keyblade by reaching for the light in Riku's heart and *not* because Ventus was in his heart; that was never the reason. The reason has always been that Sora reached for the light of Riku's heart, and the keyblade went to Sora because Riku entered the corridor of darkness. Ventus never impacts Sora's ability to wield the keyblade. The only thing it *may* have allowed was his ability to dual wield, but that may as well have also been Roxas recombining with Sora. However, the presence of his heart was never the reason he was able to wield a keyblade, because even now, in the end of KH3, Sora can use Double Form and dual wield without the presence of Ventus, Roxas, or Xion's hearts) (this was meant to go into an edit of the original comment but for some reason it wouldn't allow it)

@@DaybreakTownGSA While I disagree with the rationale of the videocreator on Kairi's Keyblade being some sort of rent-blade making sense, I feel as though that's less contributing to BBS being justified and moreso KH2 also very much sucking interms of lore and story, because it just does whatever. Oh noes, the walls between worlds have been restored, so we can't just fly to them anymore! Do we use some sort of clever way to get there, like opening up the walls again with the Keyblade or sth at the risk of dankness coming in or use Disney Backward's magic to port around or possibly even some sort of advanced technology? Nah, we just write in Deus Ex World-pathways. Pathways that don't even make sense, because they are connected to absolutely random objects in the worlds that sometime didn't even exist 5 minutes ago.(Also, we ignore the fact that by lore, the worlds that Sora didn't visit in KH1 still have the doors to their hearts unsealed.)

@@lpfan4491 I mean, I disagree? The worlds Sora didnt visit likely fell to darkness before the events of KH1 (as is the likely case for most of the princess of hearts' worlds, confirmed to be the case for Beast's Castle as he arrived in Hollow Bastion using a Dark Corridor that destroyed his home world, also same goes for Mushu, Simba, any of the summons in kh1 as Fairy Godmother says they survived their worlds falling to darkness), or during the final stretch of the End of the World, after which Sora defeated Ansem, closed the door to darkness, and all worlds were returned to the realm of light (or in-between in the case of Twilight Town and Yen Sid's Tower), the only ones that weren't fully restored became the sleeping worlds we unlock in DDD After the worlds were restored after KH1, they restored their world barriers, and as defense mechanisms while they were reforming, created gates to ward off darkness and intruders, only being opened by Sora, or someone wielding the keyblade, unlocking them by finding an object central to the specific world or its inhabitants, or that represent the bond Sora has forged with the hearts of said world/inhabitants None of them are just "random objects," they all mean something to either the world's inhabitants or the connection Sora has with them. The only one that is actually random is Atlantica I guess, but KH2 Atlantica also threw out the lore of King Triton knowing of other keyblade wielders so [shrug]

Kingdom hearts 3 explained that

@@MedVZ he questioned it

So, basically, it's whatever makes the plot happen. Got it.

I'm certain that Nomura stated that Ven is not the reason Sora can wield a Keyblade. Up to this point, Sora is the only person we've seen who was seemingly chosen by his Keyblade outright. What Ven's heart actually offered Sora was the ability to wield more than one simultaneously, as a single Keyblade is tied to a single heart.

@@sword_of_dusk Your actually partially right, Roxas actually is the one who gains the ability to dual wield thanks to is connection to both Sora and ventus and once he get recompleted with sora that is how Sora gain access to is dual wield (trough Roxas) its basically the same but with a extra step XD

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Watch my video on Re:Coded and Days for why I think it's pretty good.

Re;Coded's story is the worst and most skippable. Idk about the gameplay

I think it's a light Keyblade. The Princesses of Light are pure of light, shown by the fact that they cannot turn into a Heartless.

Riku-Ansem's "Keyblade of Heart" itself is, canonically, of the type of the same name. Keyblades of Heart, that is. It's the only one we see in the series, and we never even see it complete. Just like the Kingdom Key D, being a Keyblade of Darkness, it's one of those things important for... basically just that specific game slash sequence that never matters otherwise and gets forgotten immediately, at least as near as I know.

@@captaincraftit696 That whole concept is a retcon.

pretty much

Oooh sounds like someone was pissy about the remake... But yea XD

Hey, that's alright. Any joy in this world is a net positive. Keep loving BBS!

I love this attitude. "I just made a three hour video on how much I hate this game, but if you love it that's great!"

I mean, it kind of is a rant. I think that was the point, you don't have to watch if the first minutes turn you off of it. Also, I think game ratings aren't so cut and dry. 10/10 is supposed to be perfect, but there's no such thing as a perfect game. So naturally even a 10/10 will have flaws. Therefore the inverse is also true. Even a 1/10 will have things you may think are good ideas or executed well, but are dragged down by the rest of the game. I'm not necessarily a fan of the KZfaq thumbnail meta either but it is what it is, all these types of videos have thumbnails like that now.

My thumbnail is the way it is because it's easy to make lol. I drag a wallpaper into canva and think of a few words to draw people in. There's not a malicious/greedy motive like you're implying. As for why I put that rant at the beginning of the video, it was to ward off people that were easily offended, leaving the people that actually want to engage with my arguments to watch the rest. In terms of my positive feedback, first off, there's like five minutes out of the whole video of actual positive feedback, and second, of course I want to give it. Like most people that think about media critically, my views on certain products are mixed, not unanimously positive or negative. People that say otherwise either aren't thinking about the product in a holistic and nuanced way, or they're lying to you for clout. As for why I said is was a 1/10, I view a ten scale as a measure how much much 'good' a product does/has. So, a 10/10 does the most good, and a 1 does the least. This is how I view BBS. It's not devoid of good, it just has so little that I can't, in good conscience, score it any higher than a 1.

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall The whole thumbnail still kinda comes off as kinda mean though. Wouldn’t it be better just to say “kingdom hearts BBS Review”, isn’t that what your whole video is about. Well regardless it’s your choice on how you decide to make and represent your video. However, your beginning part does rant, which you have said is on purpose to get rid of certain people that would be easily be offended by your words. Though I still see those kind of people in the comments still, so I don’t really know how successful that plan worked out. Plus wouldn’t your approach not just get rid of those people but also those who don’t want to listen to someone rant for 3 hrs, who would listen to your review and view points. I feel like your getting rid of both kinds of people but that’s all your choice, if that’s how you start your video or videos then that’s how they start with the ones you really don’t like. As for 1 thing and you giving positive feedbacks to the game, when you start off with what you said it gets confusing. I know it was done purposely now but it’s hard not to see the number 1 told to me and those who watched the beginning to be just completely negative with no redeeming qualities. However like you said, you did that purposely and now that I know that, the 1 becomes what it normally is mostly negative with few positives. I don’t dislike your video entirely, in fact you make very good points about it’s story, gameplay, characters, and so fourth. I’m just not fond of the methods you chose to create and present your video about bbs, like I feel like there was a better way. Regardless I’m just giving my intake on what I saw and what you told me, so I wish your videos do well and are able to establish what you wanted them to be. After all mine will always be just an opinion, just like yours.

So, completely unsolicited advice incoming, please do with this as you will: you don't need to apologize/justify every statment with 'I know this is what you wanted to do, but-' It comes off as flaccid. While it's a give or take thing in some circumstances, often it's more effective to simply state your point. I know that I did things how I intended; I don't need you to remind me so I don't get offended by your criticism. Because I appreciate your criticism. There was probably a more generalist and accessible way I could've opened the video, which I'll take into consideration going forward. Tl;dr, type more confidently, and I appreciate you speaking your mind. Thanks for watching despite your issues with the video!

Don't know, don't care. The lore since BBS is dogwater and doesn't make sense lol

Yeah this guy doesn't understand lore and just ranting...

@@quad9238the lore is intentionally obtuse and badly written. This is as a huge KH fan.

The only thing Sora got from Ventus was an accidental inheritance of the keyblade when Ventus heart was looking where to find refuge. The reason why Roxas looks like Ventus is because Ventus heart was inside of Sora so he took that look. And Vanitas looks like Sora cause he copied that form at his creation. Also this guy just doesn't give a shit about anything in the story he himself doesn't pick so ignore him.

@@jhallo1851 don't mind me rolling on floor from laughter

Command Styles are most certainly not more powerful than commands. they're slow, don't deal more damage than normal attacks, or at least don't increase damage by much, get rid of some of your attacks, and are activated against the player's will. Commands are 'press a button and win' if used intelligently. Now, if you're talking Shotlocks, while I hate them, we can at least agree that they're very powerful.

Depends what style commands you use. They actually are a boost up to deal more damage. Getting the command Styles for me Is a must when fighting mysterious figure (can beat him in less than 8 minutes). Shotlocks can take out a couple of bars of a boss so they are extremely good assests for the characters.

You can kill MF in about half that time with surges tho

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall i know that Is the way but they deal less damage when you don't have a style command triggered( the 8 minutes was to give more of an honetly and reasonable time frame; i Remember people spending days on him lol). Even the damage by shotlocks Is greater with the use of command Styles.

That's simply false.

Vanitas is as ancient as MoM. Of tmcourse they are Cryptic jerks and won't really tell people their true agendas

pragmatically, screwing around with Aqua and Terra would help in Xehanort's plan stoking Terra's rage would help his descent to Darkness while giving Aqua a reason to oppose him so strongly just readies her as a substitute pure light for the X-blade in case Ventus isn't up for it

no because nomura hadnt thought of the stupid luxu twist yet

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall Abubub! And that's where you should rethink your life about KH, because Nomura pretty much planned all this shit out, why do you think stuff like BBS showed up in KH2's Secret Ending? Also besides, it's Nomura, he always plans this shit out.

​@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFallHow do you know?

It's funny when people deny Retconning in the series as well. Nomura himself has admitted that he hadn't planned everything out and left a lot of plot points open ended, yet some people in the fanbase truly believe that the first game was always meant to lead up into time travel, puppet bodies and dream eaters.

yes

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall the vid has ended and i understand why now and honestly this has helped while i failed to farm captain hook for 3ish hours tbh i was expecting the vid to be kinda bad and just ranty (the beginning had that feel) but I'm pleasantly greeted with something well thought out, i agree with the video tho there is some points that don't quite match up like the retconning. they didn't retcon the keyblade not picking it's master they just added on other methods in a flimsy way, this series is also just plagued with nomura's way of writing (which i hate) where he splits every idea up into 7000 pieces most of which are featured in the app/browser games (which most of them are defunct now 🙄) that have some of the most important lore bits that explain alot of the nonsense (kinda). some of the lore he just doesn't add into games and saves them for interviews. non of this to say I'm defending nomura cuz i feel like he's ruining the series lol

The only world where that's true is Enchanted Dominion, actually. For post-RG levels, I don't care because I didn't try to argue for that in the video.

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall No not really, 1. Enchanted Dominion 2. Radiant Garden (bigger than Terra/Aqua) 3. Deep Space 4. Dwarf woodland (arguably bigger than Terra’s world)

I have a video on Re:Coded and Days if you want to know why I like it. I personally don't count mobile games into my rankings, because it's too cheap of a judgement. It's a gatcha game. Of course it's terrible and only there to syphon money from fans.

I can't use that backstory because it wasn't presented in BBS proper, nor in a game that came out before it. Just like I can't take Poe Dameron's backstory from Star Wars Episode IX when considering how his character is presented in Episode VII. Knowledge gained from future entries can't count toward the analysis of a product, because the analysis is based on the game as it stood when it released.

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall You don’t need to explain a character story in their debut game, especially since it’s an ongoing story. Ventus was a complete mystery in BBS, we had no idea where Xehanort found him, and now thanks to Union X, we know his past and now we know why Xehanort was invested in him.

Yeah, I even mention that in the video lol

Originally yes but with the Luxu stuff it’s been reconned to refer to the Union X characters.

That would make sense. Still not explained very well lol

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall Agreed. And I also agree with pretty much all you said about this game. Its a cool idea but the story just falls short

All the Wayfinder trio got stuck on a place or situation where they basically won't really age. Soon, that was a wierd expectation at least for me.

@@Snzn18 I mean I get it for Terra, but there's just so many contrivances otherwise. Like why does time in the realm of darkness not work the way it does in the realm of light? Time stands still but if these two realms are two sides of the same coin, then why do they not function on similar rules and laws? And for Ventus, his heart was gone. He was in a state of rest. But you mean to tell me he didn't even kind of age? Not even a little? Why? Ven is over a thousand years old at this point. Give this man a mustache or something??

@@sadboijokes Look at Dizz. A character introduced in KH 2 and if you know his lore. He stayed in the Realm of Darkness way longer than aqua and the dude never aged a day inside there. The realm of Darkness time shenanigans is not a thing BBS made up. It was always like that since KH Chain of memories and KH 2. Same with Castle Oblivion thinks don't just work normal there. Like Each freaking room in their ihas their own kind of logic. And heck even combat system works different in there. And also Ven alone has a lot of ??? To begin with. Like Ven is actually older older. And the dudes been thrown and future timelines got possessed by ancient pure darkness and has been fractured thus producing Vanitas. In some way Ven alone is in a something similar fashion with a Nobody. And since they have a missing piece of them they really don't age after that. So in short the things that allowed these characters to not really age is not a thing made for BBS, they are stuff that already was introduced in earlier games. Ventus was planned to have some sort of mystery to begin with by the time KH 2 decided that Roxas don't look like Sora. Anyways I don't get your gripes with "aging" logic since you have Disney Characters, like Mickey, Donald and Goofy who basically don't age anyway and just "shift in artstlye" depending on the timeline they are shown.

@@Snzn18 I'm sorry but what do you mean? In KH:CoM, we never see DiZ or rather, Ansem the Wise. Like we see him in his red mummy garb, but we never see him without the bandages until KH2. But we had no point of comparison for Ansem the Wise until BBS, which going back to my point, is when I feel like character design took something of a back step. Like I get the arbitrary story reasons for why Ven and Aqua don't age. And I don't expect to see elderly Mickey, in my mind, the Disney characters are aging outside the main human cast. I think I'm just disappointed because I feel like in previous games, characters changed and those changes in appearance were something I kind of looked forward to. My issue with BBS really has to do with its many implications and the retconning I feel it did to the story I originally knew and loved growing up. Cause I've been playing these games literally since they came out. I remember Sora's transformation from KH1 to KH2. I remember BHK and RHG. It felt like every game we were getting a new character or at least a new design and that was so fascinating. And the first time I saw Ventus, I, like literally everyone else thought, "Oh is this an image of the future? Because that clearly looks like Roxas" only to find out that no, it's not Roxas, it's Ventus. And Ventus looks like Roxas because he's been in Sora's heart. But why does Roxas look like Ventus and not act like Ventus or Sora? Who knows? But my issue with this design philosophy is that Roxas's entire arc in KH2 was about having an identity and expressing his desire to be seen as a real person in his own right. So the fact that Ventus is here as an outward carbon copy of Roxas, should raise some kind of red flag for him. This should be an existential crisis all over again because not only is Roxas not his own person, he isn't even his own likeness. But it's not. Roxas and Ventus just look at each other a little confused and the only other person that brings it up is Lea who has basically become like the voice of the KH Fandom in that particular scene I'm describing. Like I could go on and on about that particular story element, but there are soooo many issues with character design that literally make certain elements of this franchise's story collapse. There's no cohesion and that's what bothers me so. It feels almost stagnant in a way.

@@sadboijokesThis is Nomura, they don't put Diz on CoM without really having a decent of amount of bacstory already detailed. And they made him quite mysterious because they have been building his mystery ever since he appeared. Just because they don't shove it in people's faces means it wasn't there. That is basic storytelling. Characters in KH since they one, although the significantly do "relatable" stuff and react in a normal conventional way. The KH world is basically balls to the walls fantastical in nature and even characters don't really get surprised by seeing a talking humanoid mouse, duck amd dog. Talking mirrors, etc. Etc. The writing also don't put emotional crisis usually in the forefront and just give "subtle" context to it. They usually make that more relevant when it's on the breaking point or us relevant to the situation at hand. Different series do stuff differently than other series in general. So don't expect things that some series highlights on to be highlighted as much in other series. KH in general needs to juggle the Disney spirit and Final Fantasy existential crisis stuff in a blender. That is part of what makes the series stands apart form other series. Like I can give explanations about you are queries but I am pretty sure your mind is pretty made up in not reconsidering other perspective on this so I gave up. I am so-so with a some stiff in KH also but usually there is enough context to explain stuff in it whether we will like the explanation or not. Ain't got no time to discuss this further so I am gonna dip

Yeeeees it's such a good game lol

Everyone is just really mad that I say BBS is the worst lol

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall cuz BBS is not the worst legit the worst game is Re:coded but it's your opinion.

@@KonEl17 recoded nah i think rechained is the worst game in the series

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall Nah, I think everyone is mad because you made poor points, and when people point it out to you, you say "NUH UH". Someone who critiques something should at least have some grace when it comes to counter points. You, obviously, do not posses such grace.

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall because Re:coded and the Roxas game exist. You’re literally trolling.

Pretty sure it’s simply because all three characters are playable, which already makes them feel more equal than the original trio. Also the points for letting a female character actually save the day multiple times and be playable.

I'm currently doing a second playthrough on Critical mode this time and it's actually pretty fun. I'm even learning about moves I didn't know about on my first playthrough like Quake, Meteor, and Dark Firaga.

The former two I have a video on, the latter I will have one on as a later date.

At least DDD had protagonists that I was a little bit invested in.

DDD's gameplay was way better made(Re:coded despite the many playstyle changes) and handles multiple characters better, also BBS did way more damage to the story than DDD.

You can play as riku in ddd

@@luiscesarmariafilho9475 You cannot play DDD at level 1 without using balloon/firaga burst, or fight Julius in general, and still tell me that it’s gameplay was “better made.” Graphically better? Yes. Functionally better? No.

@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic I played all of the games on Level 1 and can confirm this is true. Even if we're not including the terrible gameplay, DDD's story is dogwater compared to BBS since it ruins established characters more then any of the other entries.

@@yderga8707 I couldn't have said it better. honestly, I might reference you when speaking about this very thing in the KH2 video. Setting aside that Ventus simply has nothing going on on a personal level, I 100% agree with your reasoning as to why his appearance is stupid and what could've been done to fix it

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall 👍

"awesome" is a funny way of spelling shit

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall It is like one of the best KH games by many fans...But ok, your intitled to your own opinion of course...Just so happens your opinion on the game is vastly disagreed on by a large mile..

@@PilotZaku he’s right tho, this game is all style no substance, only people who like to look at pretty things and not think enjoy this game

@@brujbruh1489 He never even said the phrase "style over substance" in his video. You're putting words in his mouth in order to push your own personal agenda, and that's frankly disgusting. I think he's objectively wrong to call Birth by Sleep "bad", and he didn't make any convincing arguments to prove his own claims at a bare minimum, but the idea that the game has no substance at all to anything is just ridiculous and has an extraordinary burden of proof in its own write. To be very clear, because this community often makes this crucial mistake, the terms "shallow" and "style over substance" aren't synonymous, and the word "shallow" doesn't mean "no depth", it means "lacks depth", or in other words "it has low/less depth". You can think of difference between a deep game and a shallow game as being the difference between the deep end of a swimming pool and the shallow end of a swimming pool. That being said, I would describe KH2 as a shallow game as well. You need more than a semi-decent combat system to make a good Action RPG, and the RPG elements of KH2 are incredibly streamlined and lackluster, more so than any other game in the series, Dream Drop Distance, both versions of CoM and ReCoded included.

@@boyishdude1234 idk how you even think my own statement is me trying to make it seem like what I said is what Sight Avery said. And while you try to say I put words in people’s mouth your next paragraph has to do with something I never said. Why are you arguing with me about what the community says if I haven’t said that, either argue with me or don’t directly reply to me 💀🤡

KH3 may be bad, but it's not AS bad imo

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall you're right. It's worse.

@@JabamiLain KH2 better

@@RyukiAzurite indeed.

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall the problem is that KH3 has awesome combat compared to KH2 level of awesome, but the story was hugely spoiled and when we got to play we had already seen everything in the trailers basically. I don't care what they say about KH3 combat being bad, vanilla KH2 also had it's fair share of bad stuff that were addressed in FM and the same happened to KH3 with RM, so fuck it if anyone says the combat in 3 is bad, it's not. I think we could have some things from other games, like more variety of spells and more defined classes so we can properly play the game as an action RPG, and less flashy stuff like some finishers that we have in both 2 and 3 that are faster in 2 and makes the combat flow really well compared to when I have those moves in 3 (I'm looking at you magnet burst and explosion). The whole rest of the KH3 is equally fun to play, fast paced combat, very cool moves, animation cancelling, the shot lock dash and so on.

Depends on perspective, but imo, not really. Days has combat that actually works and characte-building that's more engaging than collecting commands for 30 minutes to win the game.

it still isn't

@@lpfan4491 "358 Has good combat" I can't imagine being this wrong

@@benpage11 It has combat that is good enough. BBS meanwhile is a lol-fest from start to finish.

@@lpfan4491 if you played on beginner and had no idea what you're doing yes. 358 had combat that barely functioned with some of the worse bosses in the entire series

"Unsatisfying, easy to break combat with little incentive to experiment and get better and a lack of variety outside that lacklustre fighting. " Mini-rant, but even tho COM is my least favorite gameplay... isn't the incentive to experiment just for fun's sake? Like IDK. You don't need to unlock that many commands to beat BBS, but you also don't need to do a lot of things in the main entries that turn out to be really fun or outright broken. I never used summons in KH1/2/3 after first usage but it was cool they were in the game, and how others have used them to speedrun some hard fights. I didn't unlock too many growth skills in KH2 my first time, but in Final Mix they were insanely fun to use. I feel like part of the magic lost in critiques like this is the role playing aspect (and yeah, easy to forget but KH are RPGs). Aqua's Inferno Storm is unwieldy as heck and is never used casually because you basically unlock it at endgame. but MAN does it feel good to use. That's how a lot of those endgame stuff feels. ------ But if you want a more pragmatic explanation for these incentives: I believe the Mirage arena was that incentive. People playing the collections won't know, but the Mirage arena on PSP was an entire co-op battle arena that you could connect locally with friends to play through (or if you jumped through hoops and has a PS3, online). And in the PSP versions they designed the hardest bosses (which are REALLY cool btw, look them up if you never played Mirage Arena) under the assumption you would be using 3 players to take them down. it's a LOT of content that most people in the West would have never experenced, because the PSP couldn't do online multiplayer by itself and I wager 90%+ players simply lacked the friends with PSPs and BBS to do this with. If Pokemon couldn't overcome this gap, KH wouldn't. More importantly, I'm sure that was a lot of time being spend on development. So if you feel BBS was half-baked, you may have the Mirage Arena to blame. A cultural difference where the JP devs fully expected players to come together and duke it out together. Funnily enough, that dream may finally come to fruition over a decade later with Missing Link.

My issue is less with Terra fighting Eraqus and more with Eraqus being an idiot and trying to kill his student

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall I'm pretty sure he believed what he was doing was indeed the right thing to do. We might not see it that way as it's hard to put ourselves in the shoes of someone else. He isn't justified in his actions to us and even admits he was wrong at the end of the fight. In that moment though, he was being self-righteous.

You're giving him far more credit than I would, considering the information available to him, including both how Ventus was acting during that scene (scared out of his mind) as well as the kind person Eraqus knew him to be from his years training him. Under no circumstances should he have acted so rashly, and ghe fact that he did leads me to believe that Eraqus is an idiot

@@WhereIStandIsWhereIFall Eh yea, maybe I am giving him too much credit. But I think it's still best to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to do the right thing, just going about it wrong. I can't call him an idiot for believing what he was doing would save everyone. But of course, it is completely up to our own interpretation of the circumstances to come to a conclusion.