Since I have seen way too many comments about bluetooth audio streaming thing, I am going to clarify it here. As I stated in the video, the B8 DOES NOT offer bluetooth media, my B8.5 does come with bluetooth. I use it every single time I drive the car, bluetooth + spotify immediately!

So long story short there’s no actual problems with this car

number 1 worst part of owning an Audi S4 (personal experience): -it's not an RS4

Eddie: "I'm not replacing this anytime soon!" 5mo later: "I'm selling the S4!"

There are no downsides.

so... a 2014 MMI interface seems dated in 2018? Shocking. This car is amazing.

When I used to work for Audi as a tech, I remember a lot of complaints, specifically about the S4/S5 brakes. There were no major changes in what Audi did other that coat the rotors with a “noise resistant” material. I’ve heard going aftermarket is way better to keep the noise away.

I don't understand why people say the wheel goes the wrong way. When you rotate it to the right, AKA clockwise, the image on the MMI rotates to the right AKA clockwise. If you rotate it to the left, AKA counter clockwise, the images on the MMI screen rotate counter clockwise. It only looks a little strange when the selector is on the bottom. However, it rotates the same direction its turned! just strange that that bothered people!

Love my S4!! But when it needs work...the pockets hurt lol

Would have loved it if this was just a 10 seconds black screen video, cause having an Audi S4 has no downsides at all :D

I own a 2015 S5 and here is my list: Not very happy with: noisy disk brakes in the cold; I just replaced them with aftermarket and the issue is gone MMI: very dated and voice recognition is terrible. GPS: always takes me through cities when HWy are available (no avoidances set) What I love about it: I am 6"2 and I have lots of room in it Very confortable great performance for its class Beautiful interior PS: I really like the volume/next track button...

Hi Eddie, I am looking at used s4s and was wondering if you know what to look for when buying and what type of issues/maintaince to expect

Eventually, everything feels dated.

I have a 13 S4 n im starting to love it more then my TT a little

As a B8 S5 owner, the MMI and the brakes I 100% agree with. Can't comment on the size as I bought a 2 door lol. Have had it less than a year and although I do enjoy the car I may be replacing her with something different this year (used as my daily/winter beater). Great vid.

you mentioned the audi rs7 , so why dont you look at early audi A7s with the same engine they are really a steal for a great daily. maybe even an early s7

completely agree as a b8.5 owner as well. Including being 6'4... its really hard sometimes to find that perfect driving position especially on long trips.

My B8.5 Audi A4 brakes squeaks loudly as well when it’s cold outside.

I've owned by B8 S4 for a year also and have to say it's so much fun to drive. Not having streaming bluetooth audio was a quick $60 fix which was well worth the money. All you do is plug a device into the port in the glove box and just leave it in there. I live up here in snowy, cold Minnesota and with over 100k miles on my car I have not once experienced break squeak. My taller friends say that they fit great in the front and feel like they have enough room. However, it is pretty damn tight in the back for them.

I spin the MMI knob the wrong way every day in my B8.5 S4

Owner of a 2011 6MT S4 here. Like you said, arguably best car in price point and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! Nonetheless, things I'm not a fan of are: -rear legroom. I am 6' and generally whoever sits behind my driver seat is not going to be super comfortable -mpg. On a good tank I'll get 23 mpg and I drive conservatively! -stock exhaust is very muted, and in the B8.5 is flat out artificial (Audi Soundaktor). AWE has helped me fix this :DD -not having bluetooth in MMI is really lame. Tune2Air bluetooth adapter fixes this, but you shouldn't have to pay for an $80 adapter...

I thought the MMI knob was backwards, until one day I noticed the display often has a circle-like theme, on the left and/or right. If you look at that and turn the knob, it makes sense. It kinda blew my mind.

The knob doesn't turn wrong. If you think about a pulley system like say on a flag, pulling down on the rope, you pull the flag up. A audi engineer explained the reason why the knob turns the way it does. they changed it to please the consumer rather than being right, physics wise.

Bro I absolutely love the volume switch skip control, I’m pissed they have some wierd ass Haptic Touch on the new ones

I own my s4 2013 since december 2012 and I'm still in love with that car. There is no downside to this car. My only complaint would be the small gas tank. I would have appreciate 10 more liters. And the suspension could be a little bit softer.

My 2014 S4 B8.5s brakes used to squeek also. I switched to the 2 piece rotors and ceramic brake pads and haven't had any issues since then.

The volume knob combined with the skip/replay toggle is pretty insane. I can only imagine how many times I'd go to turn the volume up and accidentally skip to the next song, that would drive me nuts too haha.

I agree. I am 6'4" and feel just a little bit too tall for the back rest portion of the seat. And because it is a one piece seat, which looks great, I can't adjust the headrest to be level with my head. All in all, it's a small price to pay for such a fun daily driver. And, my daily commute doesn't have any stop and go highway driving so I got the 6 speed manual which makes the S4 far more fun and engaging to drive.

About the brake squeal. Get Akebono Euro ceramic pads. No noise, minimal dust. The Audi stock ones are not that good.

I’m looking into a B8.5 Audi A4 (still in Highschool) but I’m concerned about the reliability record of Audi. My parents had a 2013 B8.5 TDI and the turbo blew at only 42k miles. I know the TDI is different than what I would get but I wanted to know how reliable yours is. Great video!

New pads will fix the squeak. I had the same issue before. I upgraded mine to basically a stage one with waffle rotors and steel lines.

Your breaks are squeaking is normal for any ceramic paded break system, if it really bothers you that much just break from 30mph hard and it stops, or just don't buy ceramic pads.

"Its not like i drive this car hard" Dude, are you insane? S4's are literally made to be driven HARD, which is a distinct difference from abusing it...

Worst parts of owning mine. On completely stock car, DSG transmission went out not once, not twice, but 3 times!! $10k each! MMI has no carplay and bluetooth takes about 1 minute to connect with your phone. 1 minute doesn't seem long but when you are wanting to connect, it takes forever. Exhaust flexpipes commonly need replaced. Goes through brakes quickly, control arm bushings need replaced when you get up there in miles or it handles so sloppy. **Upside** There are so many mods for this car with 034motorsports.

I have daily driven B8 and B8.5 S4's since 2010, and the best way I can describe this car is: The S4 is a car that is pretty good at most car duties, but not great it any one category. Rear leg room is OK, trunk space is OK, MPG is OK, handling is not true sports car level. The real areas the car is exceptional are snow driving and value. With snow tires, plus sport diff, the car is a beast in the winter! Retail prices and resale value for the S4 are extremely reasonable. The lack of Bluetooth audio control is frustrating, the brakes, ehhh just brake a bit harder (don't lightly drag) and the squeal goes away. My B8 had adaptive dampers, in comfort mode the ride was much more plush, would really smooth out expansion joints. My B8 & B8.5 and 120k miles combined driving was reliability, only had the B8 in for one warranty stop, the drivers side proximity door sensor failed. Other than that nothing other than regular service and tires.

I open this to hear abt maybe timing chain or breakdowns and this guys speaking about buttons that got moved around 😂😂

I just replaced my S4 Cabriolet B6, fantastic driving car. Once you go quattro you never go back!

B8.5 S4 owner here, also a friend at work has the same car in my spec except with the DCT. Can confirm we both get the brake squeaking in the cold. For me it's really minor, I barely notice it other than light braking at low speeds.

My B8.5 S4 nitpicking: 1. Track up and down via the MMI is stupid. 2. Why is the volume knob on the right. 3. Brakes are too loud when it's cold out. 4. Volume control on the steering wheel should be on the left. 5. Exhaust could be a tad bit louder. 6. Oil consumption, oil consumption, oil consumption. All nitpicking, I still love my S4 and not sure what I'd replace it with? Kia Stinger maybe (I'm not brand loyal)?

i’m looking into a B8.5 Audi S4, i currently have an Audi A4 B7 S-Line edition with 97k miles

I must be weird then, haha. The MMI rotation to me is common sense in my B8.5 and I love the tap left/right of tracks on the volume knob. If you're like me and rest your arm on the center console while driving, the volume/track button actually makes sense. I drive a DSG now, but when I had the 6MT it was super nice since my hand was always on the shift lever, so a short distance to change tracks/radio/volume vs. going backwards to the MMI which is only switch tracks/radio and no volume. Oh, and brake squeal? Totally got it. Super annoying! Love the initial bite, though.

I found with mine that the salt brine pre treat they spray on the roads seems to cause the loud squeal. I actually got pulled over by my town cops for the noise with the cop saying my brakes were bad. Had to inform him no, the pads were 4000 miles old and everything was in working order. My complaint with the car is the seats. I ended up getting a pad for the seats as they are so uncomfortable for long distances. My previous Audi A4 the seat was so comfortable I could drive 1/3 of the way across the country in a day with no issues at all. I also hate that to change the radio or adjust the air you have to go through two steps. In the end for me the cockpit sucks but I enjoy everything else about the car.

Also, i'm 6'3 & i sit comfortably in the car. adjust the seat to your preferance & you should be good. my seat preferance is to the ground, almost laying down & the wheel extended completely outward to me

S4 B8.5 3.0TSFI is a beauty to drive, smooth engine and waft driving experience on a long road but can be a disaster maintenance wise; 1. Mechatronics problems 2. Thermostat problem 3. air conditioning compressor issues. 4. Top engine gaskets problem, coolant mix with oil.

Have a b8.5 S5 in Canada. Breaks squeek all the time when cold. Just something we need to live with. Once warmed up the sounds goes away. Not quite sure why. We are not talking about a high end track focused car here

My 2013 335i brakes squeak in the winter too. You Audi guys aren’t alone ;)

The skip/back button is sick but the wrong way wheel feels so weird

Hey Eddie, fan here from Connecticut with 2012 S4. Well had, just leased a '18 GTI Autobahn, the only thing I miss is the rocket boost from that sweet V6 Supercharged. You're absolutely right about the brakes squealing in the winter. It's actually kind of embarrassing to be honest when you pull up on a stoplight and your brakes squeal like crazy. Anyway, would you recommend to others looking into a Golf R vs a S3/S4? On the VW vortex forums it's a heated debate that usually leads people asking the question more indecisive than when they started.

The brakes! Holy crap yes. I thought it was just mine.

I've finally saved the up enough money to buy a 2010 Audi s4 as a 16 y/o. Would this car be hard to maintain and expensive?

I have a b8.5 s5. With the brake squeak try slamming on them at a good speed. I think they develop grooves which causes the noise. Dealership told me this fix. Worked great.

I've had a B8.5 S4 for 6 months now. The brakes squealing is the annoying bit for me. The MMI knob scroll direction got me for like the first day or so, but I very quickly got used to the direction. I don't use it for bluetooth audio. I thought the skip buttons were unexpected, but made sense. My hand rests near the knob anyway, so I can skip around without looking for a button.

Break squeal is very real and real annoying. Akebono ceramic pads. Not only will they wear your rotors less (claim) they eliminate sound and have a nice feel. The brake dust is also a lighter color resulting in less brake dust visual.

I have a 2013 S4 and I have put over 35,000 miles on it. It’s a great car. I love it for a daily and it has performance to match. I have a Stage 1 tune and it feels even better now. The brakes can be annoying but the car as a whole is the best

The last point about size and comfort is the really only downside I find with my GTI. I'm a bigger guy too (6'3 200 lbs) and while I fit fine, it's just a little small when you get multiple people in there

Dude the car is 4 years old. Sit in a 2018 and you'll be fine.

I have a 15 S4 Technik. Love the car, also HATE the nudging volume button. My gfs leg always bumps it. Also the brakes are soooo squeaky (I work for Audi and even the new ones do this). Other than that, the car has been so fun. I'm at 125,000 km and no warranty so I'm nervous for things to break bc it's $$$ but everyone assures me I won't have trouble. Have a colleague with a 2011 that has 260,000 km and a stage 1 APR and he's had no issues in 8 years.

Sorry but asking us to spend time hearing complaints about Bluetooth audio streaming and squeaky brakes in winter is hardly either core issues or cutting edge motoring journalism, I worked for Ferrari for 2 1\2 years and cant comment on the sound system as I never turned one on, maybe go buy a Lexus,

I have the same gripes mentioned on my 2014 S4. Correct if I’m wrong, I don’t think I can toggle music forward/backward on the steering wheel when I’m connect via Bluetooth.

There's a 2016 s4 premium+ with 92k miles in my price range but haven't seen much on higher mileage versions, what would be the general things to look out for before buying? This would be my first car that I'll be owning with over 100k miles. Good informative video!

Brakes squeaking when it’s cold is pretty common throughout most cars.

I feel you bro, I love my 2013 S5, but I hate the laggy MMI, and also steering is not as precise as I expected

The brake squeal and brake dust on my 2015 B8.5 S4 finally got to be too much for me this winter. I replaced the pads with EBC YellowStuff. The dust and squeal both reduced by 95%. I still get a tiny squeak every now and again, but it's a whole lot better.

Things I dont like about my 2013 S4 are the brake dust! Especially with silver wheels they get dirty SO QUICKLY. The brakes are also a little funky when crawling at low speeds. Also with the DCT, downshifts can be a tad laggy at times. But almost everything else about the car is amazing!

sponsored? a rich daddy ? a fast and furious movie star? who is this this kid?

I also own a 2014 S4 with same color interior and red exterior. My S4 has 28k miles. I had no issues with brakes or anything else yet. The MMI and Audi basic sound system is OK for me. My only downside is ... I wish it would be a little longer. I am 48 and have 2 small kids and feel like the car is too small for me. But other than that I love the car.

Few things: If you tell us the knob turn the wrong direction you gotta show it. How am I supposed to know which one the right direction is? Also, don't tell us you're too tall for the car WHEN YOU DON'T TELL US HOW TALL YOU ARE. I'm 6'3 and thinking of buying this and knowing now that it could be a little small just gave me more questions than I had before. If I'd known how tall you are I could evaluate but no - no information. Great video anyway and the rest was well explained.

Porsche just released a video about the brakes and noise that make. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that they share the same braking system.

got a 2015 s4, manual, same interior as yours. really no complaints (yes breaks are annoying in the winter, but if you break pretty hard it'll get it to go away for a bit)

Had a B8.. sold it, went through a few other sports cars but I think I want one again (B8.5).. the engine was so great!

So you bring up an interesting point about modern cars infotainment. I am on the side that says these screens actually cause these systems cause the cars to age much faster than the old way. BMW E90 3 Series is a great example, the non-iDrive cars actually seem more less dated now! I was in the market for your S4 but decided on an M Sport 3 Series instead. Just more comfortable to me and like it’s still the current model plus it was fully loaded and I couldn’t find a Prestige S4 anywhere. I will be looking for a current gen S4 next year, hopefully they get affordable!

I own a 2015 Audi S4 as well and I have 2 that I have no idea how you missed. 1. The cup holders! One big and one small....the small one is annoying and almost not even usable. Except for maybe a bottle water? 2nd thing, the sun glass holder. Not big enough to hold a mans typical pair of sunglasses. Maybe a super small pair of reading glasses but that might even be pushing it.

Have owned 2015 A4 and ‘13 Q5, brake noise is a real issue, they have redesigned them since of course.... For the 8.5, the rest of your downsides are subjective and I myself actually love the MMI UI design and controls. If you step into a 2018, the controls and screens are extremely hard to navigate and distracting from driving. The UI in cars should not distract from driving.

I have a 2013 with manual transmission and no MMI. It's perfect.

My C7 A6 also had terrible brake squeal under 40 degrees. I swapped pads to akebono and it maintained the same bite and braking power without the squeal.

I have the exact car as you, bought it in July, just hit 30k miles, I've had it to the dealership for warranty work 4 times already. One of the issues were the brakes (they fix the squealing if you bitch enough), steering rack needed to be replaced (notchy/ unresponsive steering (known issue), back up cam stopped working, needed to be replaced, sports diff fault code and ABS fault code along with ABS completely stopped working after sensors got snow pack during a blizzard. I love the car and would like to keep it, just feel I'm taking a major gamble once the warranty runs out in a few months.

Could you make a cost of ownership video? Where you break down all the numbers that would be awesome!

Hey Eddie, I owned an A4 3.0 TDI of the same generation which you can see in my profile picture and sold it because of the not up-to-date MMI. You *can* listen to your music though, there's a very weird AUX-connection in the glove box. Still a great car and often times I regret selling it

As an s4 owner, the downsides are as follows. You bottom out over every speed bump because there are too many women in your car weighing it down, poor gas mileage because you are dusting WRXs all day, lopsided leg muscles from holding your body in place during sick ass corners.

I just got a mint 12 S4 w only about 42k on it w the 50k service done. Lack of the BT streaming is a bummer but I will just by the BT transmitter for glovebox connected to the ancient ipod cable. Other than that I really love the car, its been 3 days , harder on gas but quality is great. Yes the 13 would have been nicer but I just couldn't swing it price wise as I only want to own this one 2yrs. I am coming to the Audi from a premium 6spd 15 WRX thats was modified to stage 2+ and an upgraded Kenwood AA/car Play HU. I definitely miss the tech stuff. however the S4 is just a big jump forward in quality fit and finish, the WRX was excellent for daily but I am gonna like the ride of the S4 more now

I actually enjoy the button to switch music and volume at the same time very efficent for me

I just went to Philly Auto Show and there were 3 cars that I really wanted to have it as a daily for my next car. They were Mercedes C43 AMG, Audi S4, and Audi S5 all 2018s. Would you be able to make review for any of these, Eddie? I've always had a Japanese car, but I'm thinking to try Europeans. I wanted to get your opinion on these cars.

I agree with the mmi being extremely outdated for the b8 s4s, but I don't have any brake squeal issues at all. I live in Calgary, and we get bloody cold at times. The brakes have been absolutely perfect. (I have tracked the car so the brakes are very well bedded in)

I really wish more people knew about your channel

I see a lot of websites saying the S4 is not a reliable car. What do you think? Is it expensive to maintain? Does it need repairs often?

Totally agree with you. Plus also the notchy steering feel. I had a 2015 s4, and i ended up trading it in for a 2013 S7. No regrets.

Freshly Audi B8.5 S4 Owner here🙋🏼‍♂️ got the car for like 3 months now and drove like 3.000 Kilometers on it now and i can say this is by far the best daily that pushes you and ur friends with a big smile in the seats everytime u push the gas pedal a lil too hard😅🔥 its just such a sporty and still luxuries feeling car and u wont find anything else in this price class that is such a good alround beast.. 🥷🏻🔥

My brake squeak too in cold weather.....glad to know it's not just me....

Doesn't sound too bad. I can handle squeaky brakes and the MMI system does nothing for me. more often than not, I prefer the sound of the engine. I'm looking for S4s and S5s right now. Trying to find a deal so looking in the 2008-2012 range. Any suggestions or things to look out for? I've heard timing chain can be an issue. What's your experience so far in terms of maintenance costs? I watched your video about the $200 oil change. Any other expensive issues?

Thanks for sharing! I live in Troy MI, ‘16 S4 manual. Now I know why my brakes squeak too!!! Cheers bro! I need new summer tires, any recommendations?

I love my B8.5 S4. Glacier White with Chestnut/Black interior. There really is nothing that bugs me about it. Good Video, the MMI for some yeah is getting a bit dated but I think the 2018 had some revisions. Anyways.. love my S4.

I have a 2010 S4 with about 71k miles and yes the brakes squeal mad when its cold out. That's normal. Another thing is that you always have to keep a quart of oil in the car because the supercharger burns oil a bit. On average I have to put in a quart or so of oil in over the year in between oil changes (I only put on 6-8k miles a year on the car). Oh and if you haven't had to replace the brakes....its about $2200...yikes!

Bruh how you gon bring up squeaky brakes as an Audi problem and not brake dust!!😂 Audis and BMW’s have the worst brake dust but I guess that just means they work..

My 2017 Volkswagen Golf and my 2014 Audi Q5 both have squeaky brakes especially in cold mornings! As for the rotation direction I'm used to it and it doesn't seem to be weird to me 😂😂

I have a 2016 B8.5 S4, and the sunglass holder annoys the hell out of me. I can't fit any pair of sunglasses in there (including thin oaklies or my wife's eye glasses). Instead of having a spotlight sized dome light, maybe add an inch to the sunglass holder. Unless that tiny thing is supposed to be used for something else? Also, I bought her new in Germany when I was there, and I was disappointed that the S4 didn't come with a lot of the options available on the A4, like the push button close of the trunk, and the auto folding of the mirrors even after opting for the Prestige edition. All of these are minor, I still love the car, but like you, for a luxury car - just a few observations.

B6 and 7 have that brake squeak issue, as well...even the non"S" versions. As for reliability, I'd have to assume that is the US models, as I have never had reliability issues on my Euro models. Standard things like the 8pt front suspension, and the water pump, yes...never had turbo issues, never had trans (tiptronic) issues(except my A6), brake wear was on average with all other brands, never had quattro failures, someone mentioned upholstery issues(?!), never SEEN nor heard of that here....

I had the same issue with the brakes. I switched to a high quality ceramic pad and it has reduced if not eliminated the cold brake squeal. It also cut down the brake dust by 90%. Just and FYI

I am on the market getting either BMW E90 335i or Audi S4, and I cannot stay amazed how it seems biggest issue for people is infotainment system. Are you guys buying infotainment system or a car?

Its sad that they cant figure out the squeaky brakes before offering them for sale. I have an A4 and S6, brakes don't squeak at all.

And I have awesome news: The Toyota Prius just got RECALLED again! 😁 But seriously, the airbags of it and some Lexus models likely won’t deploy in a crash. Toyota is only allowed to fix the airbags of the recalled Lexus cars, as they need to leave the issue in place in the Prius so all will crash, be sent to junkyards, and we would have a Prius-free road sooner than we expected.