Appreciate how you showed this to help others learn. Too many people get caught up in their own egos and wouldn't be willing to show their failures as well as their successes. Respect.

Whether you win or lose on grading, those cards look better in tuxes!

SGC centering standards for a 10 is 55/45. PSA is 60/40. So if centering is off, you arent going to get a 10. SGC is tough but fair. All the best.

Honestly, a majority of those grades fell where they should but overall it was still a very good submission especially on 80-90's stuff. Your Elway & Mattingly RCs are both gorgeous as is and loved seeing all of your Decade of Excellence/Star Reprints/FL 20th anniversary Jordans. Good stuff!

“Does the coating effect the surface?” It 100% does because they’re grading the coating as the surface so if there’s any surface “damage” on the coating that is being accounted for. Also it only seems like y’all are accounting for centering but surface was probably a big issue on most of these if y’all didn’t check underneath a light with a magnifying glass

That was rough to watch. Keep the heads up, the hobby needs more good ppl like u guys as we move forward!

The raw reaction was great. Keep on keeping on fellas, I would definitely buy a lot of these cards

Pro tip y'all, check the centering before you send in a card. A majority of these cards are off-center both front and back

Sorry for the results but great vid, thanks for sharing. Very cool you are sharing the hobby with your son. Better luck on the next submissions!

If it makes you feel better, I did see Centering Issues on a lot of your 9's. Another thing is, Even on Modern cards, Fresh out of the Pack, You are probably looking at Mostly 9's if you sent them Directly to a Grading Company. Lastly, There is a Reason why 10's are worth so much. There much harder to get then People think. I'm a 25 year Dealer and I have been Bulk Grading with PSA for Years, Up until the Shut down and I still miss things from time to time (with the Naked Eye). I think this was overall a Solid Return. I don't think you wasted your money. Most of those cards are worth more in the Grade they came back in with the Grading Fee then they were Raw. One tip when looking at your cards is, get a 50 watt black light and look at then in a Dark Room under a 15x Magnifier. Any Flaws (besides Centering) will stand out like a Sore Thumb. I hope this Helps.

Loved the video! Weird I go to Mikey B’s too! Just moved up here in April and love that card store! Good luck with you future submissions.

Awesome cards! In all fairness its really tough to get 10s on those cards you submitted. I always wipe my cards down with a microfiber cloth and look at them under magnification in a bright light to look for surface defects! Love the vids

Nice video! I'm not surprised you got low grades tho. most of the cards you sent off were vintage or just really hard to grade in general. I noticed alot were off center, also you said you didn't check the surface which is a big no no. But all in all some nice cards! Better luck next time!

A cards worth doesn't have to be in terms of money but more on how the cards valued. Fall in love with the card not the grades.

Going into the archives! 😂 I love the 80s and 90s basketball. My fave was the MJ 1991 Fleer. Thanks for sharing gentlemen.

10's are super hard to come by that's why they demand such a high price love the 69 Mantle and the rookie cards from the 1980's

Loved your sense of humor. This was a learning experience for sure. What a great title for the video. You've done great with over 22K views. Cheers!

SGC is tough on centering most and surface second. Corners and edging issue they seem a little more lenient with. IMO from what I’ve gotten back. Nice vid.

There’s a reason the average SGC 10 is nicer than a PSA 10, they are crazy strict

You got some good ones their bro.. Educational video on the grading process & standards. I have a mountain that I am going to be sending. Mountain is about to be downsized to a scoop. Lol!! Gonna test it first. Good stuff. 🤙🏼

Hey guys. Love your videos. Please keep the content coming!

You didn't get any 10s or as many 9.5s as you wanted but on the flip side you didn't get too many terrible grades. I agree with everyone else you need a good loupe/ magnifying glass with a little light on it. Along with that, small microfiber cloth to wipe your cards down and get finger prints and stuff off the cards because they will ding you for that. You gotta remember these guys are using really high end equipment to examine these cards so you want to try and look at them the same way they are. The good news is, submissions like this only help you learn and make you better in the future. Looking forward to seeing future submissions and how good you guys get. Love the mantle!

SGC is a tougher 10 than psa

Your son has an amazing memory…calling cards from months ago…”Kobe, yellow patch”… “oh, you bought that at…”. Pretty rough but hey, it’s sports cards, you’re sharing time with your son passing on your love for cards…that’s a pristine 10 any day. You’ll get that grading eye. Great upload!

I'd love to buy that Jerry Rice 6 from ya! Lol. Awesome video brother, God bless u guys!

its funny how when you but a card behind the black SGC case's, it brings out things you did not see at first. Thanks Pop1.

I feel your pain my friend. It's rough buddy. But let your son know I died laughing when he said, "God gave you a 8." Yes He did son, yes He did....

Ouch, and that was a large submission too. I just got back another submission from SGC today and I was disappointed only getting on 10 out of a relight card order. I think the only cards I’ve been really disappointed on were my 1968 Nolan Ryan, I was expecting a 6 or 7 and it came back a 4.5. But, the more modern cards and ultra modern that I pre-screened have all come back no lower than a 7.5.

Just got a Jordan Halo back, and it was a tough grade as well. It had to be something with the surface.

Can you tell me what kind of software or method you use to record your Picture in Picture synced up like you do? Thanks guys, just subbed.

May I offer some advice? 1) if you’re subbing to a new company for the first time it’s wise to send maybe 1-5 cards so you can get a feel for how they grade 2)SGC is one of if not the toughest graders. They are not like PSA who gives 10s like candy so if you’re subbing to SGC please, please, please inspect your cards so you don’t have a situation like this where you don’t get any 10s. 3) SGC is very tough on centering, edges, and corners. They’re lenient on surface. With the exception of scratches and dents. Sometimes I’ve had it happen and so have some buddies of mine get away with print lines. 4) a 8 or was it 8.5 on that Kobe relic is not a bad grade at all. Relic or cards that are a little bit thicker than normal are really hard to grade bc edges and corners are usually dinged up. So an 8 on a Kobe relic isn’t bad at all. I’m a huge advocate for SGC. I hope you guys give them another shot. Customer service is unbeatable and overall a fantastic company. Lastly your video was very entertaining I really enjoyed getting to watch it and it’s super neat you guys do this as a father son duo. Best of luck to you guys!

The cards you submitted are all tough to gem. I think you did a pretty good job, the average grade I see on most 90’s Jordan’s submitted to us is 8-8.5. 25-30 years is a lot of years of in and out the top loader and binders, or in a shoebox. The market loves to grade cards, so when you’re buying cards to grade unless you’re buying something that does well in a lower grade, or the card is under the radar and you think it has future potential to grade, nearly every card you purchase has already been evaluated to grade by at least one owner and they determined grading it was not worth it. A good place to buy cards to grade is comc, because you can compare all copies of each card they have for sell on the same screen at the same time. This makes it easy to narrow down Because immediately you can eliminate all off centered copies. The zoom in on each one and check the corners edges and surface. Their scans aren’t super high quality, but for the majority, you can identify which one has sharp 90 degree corner, if the chrome cards have scratches or dimples in the surface, and whether or not there is edge damage or chipping on the darker border cards. I just had about 200 cards sent home from there to grade and use as giveaways to our customers in their returns as a thank you for submitting with us. When buying the cards I had a minimum grade in mind for each card to grade and be useable as a giveaway and when they arrived about 70-75% of them were at least that. 50-60# of the cards that arrived in worse condition than they appeared online were paper cards with a holo finish to them. For example last year I bought nearly all the 2018 miles bridges chronicle cards that were shiny and has parallels for $1 or less and even some serial #’d for not much more. (Marquee,studio,essentials, etc) the shiny surface on the paper cards hides imperfections really well. I’m guessing the lower quality scans and the shiny on the card reflect the light and hide them. It’s probably not a great site to hunt for 10’s on but if your strategy is, I need a certain grade on every card I buy in order to purchase, then go look up what that card looks like in that grade and then go pull it up on comc and compare multiple copies of it and find the one that looks just as good or better online, and you’ll have a decent shot at achieving your goal. If you’re hunting 10’s. Go buy starstock A’s or open packs. Starstock A’s and packs I would say at least give you a 50/50 chance at getting a 10, with starstock probably being the better option, because at least you know what cards you’re buying not relying on luck to pull the player or players cards you’re searching for.

That was a fun return! Nice vintage stuff, loved it.

For vintage, those grades are pretty damn good. Id be very happy with those vintage grades. Modern is too much speculation ond overproduction.

Thanks for sharing. I found it helpful buying a magnifying lamp and looking over all corners, edges and surfaces. It definitely helped improve my gem rate.

It’s a shame that SGC doesn’t provide sub grades. If they did, at least you would have a better understanding as to why the card received the grade.

Using magnification is the only way to find surface and edge issues. I personally look at a 9.5 and 10 from the internet and then look at my card right afterwards to help me with centering. Remember SGC looks at both sides for centering and imperfections. Tough to get high grades on anything 2010 and earlier as cards were not protected like they are now. Great video!

His son said - That's like the highlight of the video 🤣🤣🤣 his son makes the video pop

I made mistakes about leaving the protective coating on the cards. They'll grade the coating and always ruins the grade. Always take them off before sending them in.

Nice video. Wow SGC tough but them slabs look amazing

Your David Robinson wasn't graded because SGC doesn't authenticate autos,they will grade the condition of an auto that's pack pulled which is already authentic. Also on your Jordan 4.5 look very closely at it to see if there is a slight crease,I had a couple cards I sent in that looked great,centering,surface,corners but when they came back low grades like that I examined even harder and found a very slight small crease.

Rip Mikey B.. I enjoyed trips to his store. The fleer metal jordan, I just recently got one those back at 9.5. Enjoyed video.

Awesome video, really enjoyable

I know that these are for your pc and its nice to have them slabbed. Especially the 89 D robinson shirt rookie. That was a hard pull back in the day wasnt it lol nostalgic. I have been buyin most those cards for in sgc slabs for under $20 on ebay. Throw those reprints in the garbage. You can send cards to a person to that will go through your cards and look them over and pregrade them before you send them in. Sorry it turned out this way for you maybe the montana rookie is a lil over the price of grading. I only buy 9s and higher on ebay for $20 range I wouldnt actually buy any of those cards for over $30. I enjoy your content sorry the truth hurts a little. I think some of those cards are under graded great video tho keep on keepin on good luck to you and your family

Siri, how do you flush $1800 down the toilet? Rough one guys. Better luck next time.

Would love to buy one of those stadium club chrome reprints

Sorry one more comment, the NO is for cards normally outside their submission requirements. They would normally put the card in a Authentic graded slab, but my guess is that either they couldn't verify the autographs authenticity, charge more for that service and it wasn't fully funded, or they assumed it was a Star Pics autograph from a pack. I know I had pulled a star picks auto of another player back then, I believe it was Larry Robinson. I think the sets came with one autograph of a random player, not sure if Robinson was part of the autos. So they might have not had information on the card, and to cover themselves sent it back with the NO on it. Hope that helps.

lesson learned don’t let your kid submit your cards for you 😂

New subscriber here. Some of those cards that are >20 years old are tough to grade. I’ll gladly take some of those 8 or 9 MJs off your hands. What’s your eBay store?

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Hang in there, I say resubmit all the cards just to see if they grade differently….😋….. nice selection of cards you submitted though. We must be in the same age range 👊🏼👍🏽

Wasn't quite as bad you think. The 69 mantle, Montana rc, Henderson rc, and the rice 7 are solid cards. And the melo 9.5 is sweet. Thanks for sharing

I made the same mistake sending a card that I got autographed myself, didn’t realize they don’t slab cards with add-on autos

New subscriber 👍. Nice cards

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You need a flex neck lamp and a jewelers lens and take your time looking at each card. So many channels or videos on KZfaq to help you begin cleaning your cards. Surface issues plaque a lot of cards so multiple light sources are great to see scratches or printing defects. Hope this can help you and wow you have some really awesome cards and you can always crack them out and resubmit or send to a different grader. PSA is way more lenient than SGC on centering so on the cards that are slightly off centered I’d seriously consider cracking and send them to PSA!

If you dont clean them before you ship them they wont wipe off prints that could be one issue the take off for finger prints in case you dont know this.

That was brutal man … damn

They were tough on that 67 Aaron it looks a lot better than a 3.

When you look at cards with the naked eye, you are not really seeing the imperfections on the cards that result in a lower grade.

If you dont have a 10x magnifying glass get one and you’ll see any surface issues. They can kill a grade

Sgc basically x rays ur card and there could be damage underneath the foil or something completely not visible but still affects the grade received

The Jordan TSC dunking on Ewing is beautiful. Not sure if its worth much but its a gorgeous card.

Usually if it just says NO they don't grade that type of card . I sent in a blank front proof and got back a card saver that just said no so I called and asked.

That was hard too watch. Better luck next time

I just got a 3 from sgc on a 1960 mantle that I was expecting a 5 or a 6. Perfect centering . Great gloss. No edge or corner issues. I’m dumbfounded. I may crack and send to psa.

TAG is the best to see "why?" grades, sadly they don't do vintage among other cards, but for standard modern, TAG is the new best grading. That '67 Aaron is always a really tough card, not many high grades at all, even your 3 is a great card. That '74 Aaron is my favorite, hard to find. Many of those 9 Jordans are great cards. Does suck, no 10's but still part of a great collection.

Rice and Elway are tough grades, I have sent in 10 Elway's (highest grade 8.5) and the Rice sent in 6 and the highest was a 9 that I swear was a 10. Thanks for sharing.

Sweet Elway rookie

SGC doesn't do hand signed autographs they only do pack inserted autograph authentication

SGC is crazy strict. It's a bit ridiculous

The wont grade star cards anymore. You can probably get them to grade just the auto that's about it

SGC is very tough on grading. You must be picky on what condition and level of cards you send to them. At $25 a card for me even a low to mid end perfect looking card isn’t worth the risk of grading. Getting SGC 7-8.5’s is a good way to lose money. You also have to understand the market is behind on these slabs for now. So even the same grade slab sells for less than PSA.

If you didn’t check for surface issues you really can’t be surprised at any low grades. There can be stuff going on you really wouldn’t notice unless you look verrrry closely.

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I just went through the same thing you did. Their grading and quality control is horrible. It was my first order with SGC. I flushed $2K down the drain. As a bonus, 1/4 of the cards had flecks of dirt or dust under the plastic. One card has a eyelash under the plastic. The jerks have been tone deaf about my complaints. NEVER, EVER again. The card grading game now is just plain thievery. Sell your cards raw. You’ll be surprised.

You really gotta inspect the cards first. Wipe them clean if possible. SGC is really tough with grading.

Aw man! It happens

u didnt microfiber clean them?

I love SGC. I will always use them. You have to check your cards before you send them no matter who they go to.

Click bait Grades are actually very fair Just because their disappointment doesn’t mean it was the worst grade submission I have to be a dummy if you’re gonna send in 80s card to SGC sgc grades tough 80s cards were notorious to have song and surface issues

Surface is getting you on all of those cards. Buy a magnifying glass with an led light. $10 on Amazon.

Is there a way to tell SGC that if there’s a card under 20 yrs old that’s graded under a 7, don’t case it? I wouldn’t want newer cards come back as a 4.5. Forget all that stuff. Older cards ok but not new ones.

if u expect a 10 youre in for a bad time

A lot of times, once a pack has been fanned through then its a 9. The simple rubbing of the back of the card in front of it in the pack while looking through the pack for the first time is enough to add surface issues. Though some modern stuff still can be buffed out if they havent been handled too much. I think the best way still is lifting the top card with rubber gloves and then straight into a soft sleeve. Also using a Centering Tool will really improve results as centering quickly caps what grade a card can even achieve if everything else is perfect. Hope this helps, good hunting!!

@19:07 the disappointment and confusion needs to end. @12:40 TAG is the future. Graded cards in the future with no explanation as to why they are graded as such, will be bunk. Boycott PSA! Accountability people!

Resubmit them to PSA for them easy 10s the community loves.

9.5s are pretty good for older cards. 9.5s in general are pretty good:

Sgc are known for tough grading

OUCH !!!!!!!!

awesome share!! Appreciate you posting this. The difference between an "8" and a "10" is CRAZY small. difference between a 9 and 10? you're talking SMALL SMALL scratches only seen under certain light conditions and magnification. The naked eye will only catch so much. Sadly, while the actual difference is almost unnoticeable the PRICE difference between a 9 and 10 is HUGE.

Ouch.

Slabs Slabs And More Slabs !!!

Sgc. Grade really though!! Especially on vintage, that is sgc forte

Grading cards is the biggest scam in sports cards today ! its a tough lesson that just because you think a card is a 10 doesnt mean its a 10 and when it comes back a 8 or lower your basically at raw card prices on the resale i like your video hate to see the disappointment

Why bother if you can see they don't have a chance at a high grade??

Not all new out of the pack cards will gem

Thats why l had rather buy a 9 instead of a 10. Ninety nine per cent of the time you can't see the difference. Just depends on who graded it and what kind of day there having. For the difference in the money its not just worth it. I'll take a 9 all day. ( JUST SAYING )

I'm a go 8......gets hit with a 4.5 lol

I believe the no means they couldn't authenticate the autograph.