I know 😞

There's an entire list of places where children were being sexually abused. Shall I mention just one? Rotherham? They new for 10 F@ing years. Even arrested a girls dad who tried to stop her getting raped.

yeah, that part got me worked...

No consolation but the people now in charge of investing these offenders in the area are now far better and motivated to handle cases like this. A close family member of mine is part of that new team and she is relentless going after people like that.

they protect pedophiles

He was missing teeth before he went to prison. Certain drugs (meth, crack) are very bad for your teeth!

The missing teeth are interesting. People have been repeating that he's had no trouble in prison up till now. You will have heard he's now been taken prisoner by convicted killers in HMP Wakefield, stabbed in the neck, and is now fighting for his life as of August 2023.

​​@@mariannehancock8282thankfully he survived. Survived so they can do it all again. Fix him up and send him back in to Gen pop.

Usually mid 30s mentally unstable aging emo girls who can’t get over 2006

Actually IW is vile and should never be released. However, I don't find Joanne to be innocent

Um, apparently it's happened. He's fighting for his life after being stabbed by other inmates.

@@mariannehancock8282 I was hoping for quadraspazzed on a life glug but it didn't happen.

You sound so cool and tough

@@donaldsalkovick396 And you sound like you're sympathizing with a pedo.

@@donaldsalkovick396 I know someone who works in the prison service(is quite high up) I actually ran into him when he was back in Wales visiting his folks one Christmas, I asked him as a joke "did you ever see Watkins since?" he responded "dont go there" apparently dealing with someone like him is the bane of his life because he has to be in protective custody all the time. Well look what happened recently and that was in a protective custody wing.

Agreed, I'm against capitol punishment, but they should never be allowed out and should basically sit in a room alone for the rest of their lives

What I don't agree with is that the women have been granted anonymity. They may have been groomed by him to a degree but they are also serious criminals in all this, they aren't blameless victims

I'd be waiting for the day he walks out of prison

​​@@rorz999 oh come on! The reason they havent been named is because if you name them, in doing so you'll name the babies. And they need to remain anonymous. Poor little mites. 😢

It’s even more crazy these women gave their children to him. Horrible.

@@LoveAngelesMusic yeah that’s crazy idk how a parent could ever do that. A person could put 1 trillion dollars in front of me to have their way with my kid and I would kick that person’s ass for even saying that and after I kicked that person’s ass I would call the cops to tell them that person is a pedo. I hope the women that let him rape their kids went to prison too that’s the most fucked up thing you can do.

@@LoveAngelesMusic My head logic is they were very or relatively young mothers that never intended on being mothers. Irresponsible and still impressionable baby mommas basically, that had a fragile selfish disconnection from their child (if they were, not sure on the identities).

@steven milstead Let's not forget that the offender is a man.

They're idiots, and the world is full of them. This guy should never be released.

I know it’s so gross.

Oh he's deffo going to get shanked in prison at some point. At least I hope so.

Agree. Scary how he could be released within the next 10 years from now. Parents better hide their kids once his parole starts.

Just saw a case, where someone killed a person, and got 80 years. Not defending the murderer at all. Just saying, why didn't Ian get at least that as well?

The UK is a bit too lenient on serious offenders.

That’s crazy. I’m glad that guy is behind bars now

There was rumours in 2004 when I saw them at great hall in the uni but being 14 year olds we took them as rumours.

Send magzy to wakefield.

I'd always thought that fight was over a girl. I didn't see who Magzy was whaling on but he looked pissed off. Now I know why.

@@davidclarke4301 I just remember being stood next to scott from midasuno by the bar he tells me to turn around as I do I see a fist flying towards Ian's head, I also remember magzy getting bungled out of the fire exit by the bouncers before the old bill showed up.

Or have enough hush money

@@fionahamilton7231 equates to the same thing

Yep.. that’s exactly why Watkins did what he did. Elite circles, nothing’s off limits. We live in Sodom and Gomorrah. God would drown us all again if he could.

Except it's not since Watkins didn't get away with it ...

@@jedaaa he did for a long time though. It's not like something was done straight away

100%

He said in the video that most of them were retired so they couldn't be disciplined. Unfortunately!

I know. He should get life imo

the UK justice system is broken, Police protect pedophiles more so than the victims of their vile and nauseating acts.

@@LoveAngelesMusic The justice system doesn't care as long as you can pay them lots of money and you will get away with it.

Lol spot on mate.

Ya it won’t get monetized with ads but i figured it’s best to say what actually happened

The whole thing is crazy. Also the mother giving up their kid to this monster is also super crazy

It's the South Wales Police. Like the Gwent Police they are useless when it comes to real crimes. They are as woke as the Met Police and would rather go after people for thought crimes.

@@LoveAngelesMusic They had the babies deliberately for him to abuse. They were brood mares.

So gross 🤮

Honestly. This whole case is literally so bad that it looks like he was framed. If you wrote a script on how to make someone the most hated person ever this would be it. It’s unbelievable that this happened and that’s probably why this isnt even a bigger deal. You literally can’t even write down exactly what happened, you can go to jail for just saying what this dude did.

That's what mine was for the longest time. Had to change it because it was so frequent

How would you know that ? Part of the same group probably you nonce.

🤢

I know. It’s so disgusting.

Well the justice system in England was WAYYY too soft in crimes like this. And it took YEARS for the police to do ANYTHING about it.

Tax payer, the reason they didn't bust him sooner was that he was making people money.

He will probably never be granted parole. But it's strange that he didn't get a whole life sentence in the first place. Like, if what he did isn't bad enough to warrant a whole life sentence then I don't know what is. I guess because he didn't kill anyone, is the only reason I can think of

In Finland people get anywhere from 0 to 6 years for child abuse related crimes and r*pes, only a few cases have had someone get 10 years(that takes ALOT). Almost all get out after serving half. +Young people get pretty much nothing for violent crimes which is why people move here and constantly do crimes, they know that they get away with nothing🙁 If I could I'd move away from this "understanding"sh*t of a country.

They must have had some suspicions at least. Maybe not to the degree. But if someone is a horrible person. Little things slip out when talking to them.

They knew

They knew for sure. Maybe not all of it.

Some absolute cope by you there

It just goes to show that no matter how much you think that you know somebody, it’s what they behind closed door and out of view that defines them, but unless you’re part of it, how would you know?

Varg Vikernes and Faust straight up murdered people and only did 15 years, Europe is much different then America

Yup

Thanks for pointing that out

I still can’t believe at some point he is getting out of prison

​@@LoveAngelesMusic considering that he was sentenced to 29 years in prison, with eligibility for parole after 2/3 served, in 2013. He could be out in as little as 10 years time. I'm not aware of any further time being added for his attempts at grooming a young woman from prison in 2017, although by rights he should have had more years added to his sentence because of this. Due to the fact that he's clearly not showing remorse or rehabilitating considering the grooming behaviour while incarcerated, I am hoping that it proves to the parole board that he's unsuitable for parole, in which case he would be in his mid-60s by the time he's released, assuming that he's still alive by that time. The guy has proven himself to be a truly disgusting individual with absolutely no sense of morality or conscience and shouldn't be allowed to see the outside of the prison walls ever again.

Oh there certainly is a God and where Watkins is heading is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than ANYTHING he could suffer in this life.

You took the words right out of my mouth. That first record was so different and influential. It’s a shame that it will forever be tarnished by that disgusting pedophile.

Yeah look how long Gary glitter got away with it. And Arenas email still play his music that's a three time convicted pedophile

😂

Thanks. Now I don't have to post it. :-)

@@81bajaj imagine what the person was like who interviewed him for the job 🤣

Yes that is one of the worst part. If the cops just would have taken alittle time to investigate

Ya probably not

He should have gotten life in my opinion

I'm surprised that the guys in the prison general pop, havent dealt with him.

He did get charged with something else. He was hiding a phone in his anus and got 10 extra months added to his sentence, and a 5 month delay on eligibility for parole. True story. Look it up.

@@voxac30withstrat I wish they would throw nonces in general pop. Sadly they don't.

That's a really good point actually, it is surprising that more cases haven't been brought against him, but maybe a fair amount has happened behind the scenes that we don't know of. I'd imagine there is a lack of evidence for a lot of the things he did in the pre-smartphone era, especially sleeping with teenage girls on the tour bus etc

Well in the end I mention that very point about him being the worst singer in terms of evil and not ability. But I never knew this about him until recently. It was so crazy to hear all this

It is worse in some respects but I think the lighter sentences were because there was evidence he groomed/manipulated the mothers. I still think their sentences were too light though

Well I hope I did this video justice compared to your other podcasts. But yes I’m now constantly reminded of him

I know. I first heard of him through Charlie. But I also used to listen to them back on the day. I read those conversations. There are way more but I didn’t want to put them into the video as they are way too much and I feel you don’t need them to get the point across

@@LoveAngelesMusic they were a band who's name i remembered, but music not so much, but one of their singles I hve heard before when I was younger, I'm more of a fan of bands like at the drive in, fugazi, sunny day, rise against etc.. but ian is a sick mf, the dude is completely gone.

That’s terrible. Ya it makes it so much worse when these people are rich and famous and it goes on so much longer just because they are famous and no one wants to say anything

Thanks for the clarification

What about James Corden?

Ya it’s very hard to separate this person from the art. Depends on the crimes they committed. I did like rooftops. But it always reminds me of this act he did now

Speaking strictly from a musical angle, Start Something is one of those rare albums where every song is good and the album flows perfectly (a la Dark Side of the Moon, Pet Sounds, Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Not in the same league as those albums when it comes to the strength of the material, but in terms of flow it measures up). Afterward, Lostprophets basically sold out to the teen scene and never were that good again. There is no defending Watkins. What he did is abhorrent. But I will defend The Fake Sound of Progress and Start Something in a few ways. Watkins behaviour took a dark turn AFTER the band achieved mega success. And most importantly, those records required the creative input of all members of the band to create. Watkins could not have done it on his own. What I would like to see is if someone would be brave enough to fully re-record Start Something and upload it to KZfaq. Like some people have done with St Anger to improve the sound. If Watkins voice was not on the recording, then I'm sure many original fans who were there at the time, like yourself, would be able to face listening to those songs again. A creator named Narokath fully re-recorded Rooftops and uploaded it, and the response he got was overwhelmingly positive. It made a song that meant so much to teens of the 2000's listenable again

Like I used to be a Michael Jackson mega fan. Until his true nature was exposed. Now I can’t listen to him

@@billyb8356 When speaking of these albums and their flow, I must add my favorite album of all time that seamlessly flowed through 21 flawless tracks...1997s transistor from 311.

I remember really liking their Rooftops song back in the day. I totally forgot about them until I did this video. They are banned from Spotify so I haven’t listened to them since.

I'm gonna go to hell for laughing at "Ian Wantkids"

⁠When you get there, kick this bloke in the nuts. 👍🏻

The following year Peaches Geldof died. There were rumours she was about to reveal the names of the two women so someone killed her off.

@@lemsip207 actually she did release the names and got a police caution for her troubles.

@@lewisb85 It was because the children of the two women arrested with Watkins would be able to find out later that their mothers sexually abused them if they had been named.

And?

@@jessiecuster3191 "And" what?

Ya my friends dog got scared and but someone and got put down.

@@LoveAngelesMusic sorry to hear that, such a shame, and yet these animals get protected...

Yes. They should have caught him earlier

To be more relevant i'd say his now ex-bandmates should be sent to jail as well for keeping their mouth shut and letting him continue what he did!

Back in the day I used to open for bands locally. I've opened for a lot of metal and hardcore bands in bars and amphitheatres. I remember eating a pizza with George Fisher after opening for Cannibal Corpse. I remember going to get whataburger with Haste the Day. I remember meeting CJ from Drowning Pool when they were with Ryan McCombs. But I can't remember whose roadie told me this, but they said that there is a massive underground ring of pedophiles that protect other pedophiles. He said it contains actors, politicians, princes, police forces, government entities, so on. I thought he was nuts. Btw, Epstein didn't kill himself.....

Well it’s good to know he is at least behind bars

As the grandfather of a beautiful 9 month old girl I would beat this sick clown within an inch of his life. I'd probably have an argument with my son her dad as to who got first dibs. TBH ANYone who does this to a child deserves the severest treatment.

I know. They must have known something

That's the one where the band are Mr Rogers-style kids TV presenters and Watkins has a group of kids around him almost constantly, right?

Hahaha. That’s seems to be about right

wow really? i've played the roxy a couple times, thats crazy you saw them right before

@@LoveAngelesMusic It was october of 2012. I've brought my ex.

I know, no normal person is completely sane then takes some drugs and starts talking about the darkest stuff ever

The guy was interviewing watkins and he made a pedo joke about Gary Glitter and Ian was laughing with him

Not to defend Ian in any way, I have to wonder if he suffered abuse when he was a child and didn't tell anyone. Or maybe that's my brain trying to make me rationalise this

​@rorz999 yeah, I'm thinking the step dad. There HAS to be a reason he is the way he is

I know. I liked a few of their songs. But they are banned from Spotify plus I don’t want to be reminded of them

@@LoveAngelesMusic banned from Apple Music as well. the only thing about them on Apple is their bio

​@@LoveAngelesMusic All of their music is on spotify. But that may just be UK

I know the feeling. I have tried to go back and listen. Even trying my best to separate the art from the artist. Within a minute I just hit stop and feel disgusted.

@@50milliondownthedraintonym16 It's case-by-case.

😂

Ian was incredibly stupid, having mountains of evidence of the things he did. He STILL didn't get caught until 2012 though.

It just amazes me that the child mother would give up her kid for this terrible thing

Michael Jackson was found not guilty. There was no solid evidence against him, just circumstantial and allegations made by individuals. In the case of Ian Watkins he had two terabytes of child porn and multiple electronic correspondence and two Co defendants. He has never shown any remorse for his actions and actually never accepted he did anything wrong. He makes Michael Jackson look like a monk! I was a massive fan of Lost Prophets but I will never, ever listen to them again. The money I spent on cds, merch and gig tickets enabled him. He is truly vile and deserving of nothing more than castration and the rest of his life in jail.

I was a mega Jackson fan all my life. Until I found out his true nature, any I can’t listen to him. Any admiration I had for him is dwarfed by my feelings of revulsion

Not wrong maybe weird but still I listen to micheal Jackson.

They can't. He's protected from them.

@@hypocrisyisnotbetterthancaring yeah; that’s the big problem with Paedophiles in Prison. They get protected. Shame really. I’d prefer they get to him on a daily basis & make his life hell. Instead we protect these sick evil f*cks from harm. Crazy when you think about it.

very dark

Tbf his name died in 2013 and hes not making much money atm

Hopefully they don’t let him out early

Hahahha yup it’s my other channel

The one with the camera filmed herself touching her daughter

At first they brushed it off

I think that’s what I’d do intriguing about him. It’s like Ted bundy. Looks completely “normal” but is actual a serial killer

Can't help but notice ...this documentary sounds super familiar ... 🤔

My wife got it for me for my bday. Not exactly sure. But it’s a sweet shirt

Depends if u can separate the art from the artist. I mean I listen to micheal Jackson

If you like and enjoy the music, you are allowed to listen to it, i just wouldn’t go around promoting them. And if you cant get passed the voice thats also fine. U shouldn’t feel horrible about it, also you already bought the music as did millions of others so ur good there. Enjoy it or dont there isnt a wrong answer