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I know who Malice’s barber hates the most.... 😂

Cynicism is a psychological protector. It's role within the system is to protect you against experiencing anything bad. It is a pre-emptive strike against a perceived threat. If I tell myself that 'all women are bad', then I'm less likely to seek a relationship with women and, as a consequence, I'm never going to feel the pain of rejection. If I tell myself that 'everything is shit' or that 'things will never get better', then I am excused of ever having to try at anything. The upside of never trying is never having to feel the pain of failure.

When I was young and under-employed I was sent to a job seminar. The woman running the thing was a hard bitten cynic. She went around the room asking everyone what they wanted to do for a living. After she had all the responses she went on an angry tirade about how we were all just dreaming and that none of it was going to happen. I remember thinking "Well, it won't happen with that attitude." Years later, having pursued a long career in exactly what I told that grouch I wanted to do, it occurred to me that maybe she was trying to motivate us through some sort of "I'll show you" mentality. But in the end I think she really was just a mean, cynical grouch incapable of viewing things in terms of what's possible and she spread that like a plague.

The first time I heard Michael Malice say "the bad guys are ridiculous people and they will not win.", genuinely made me cry, he is absolutely right, life matters, and so does the will to go on!

Balance... everything in life is about balance. Blind optimism is the root cause of three quarters of the worlds anger and rage. There's nothing as scary as seeing an optimist hitting that wall of reality. Because optimists are children and children have two settings... blind optimism and blind rage. It takes life experience to grow a balanced outlook and a reasoned judgment on your own abilities.

Michael’s haircut gives me life

man Michael just punched me in the oversized gut. I am 310Lbs right now right back to where I was a year and a half ago. I lost 60Lbs in 6 months with a low carb diet but I was still 250 Lbs and family was asking things like "so how much longer are you gonna not eat carbs" because my family shows love by making food and wouldn't know how to work around that and they wanted to go to restaurants and bake me a cake on my birthday and things like that so I kinda just stopped it. I'm gonna go back to low carb because even though I was still fat at 250 I felt so much better and if I stick to it I will be where I want to be. thank you Michael, and Chris.

As much as I love Malice's shitposting, it's refreshing to hear him speak so earnestly about something on occasion. Keep doing your thing, Michael.

As someone who used to weigh 400 lbs and is currently "down to" 255, I agree.

My late wife would angrily ask me "Why are you so cynical!?!? Why are you always predicting what's going to go wrong?" and I would answer her. "No one will be more overjoyed than I when things come out right. Only by foreseeing the bad outcomes, can measures be taken to guide events toward the best possible outcomes."

Oh my God, I remember in my late twenties when I got into jogging again and I didn't want to tell anyone because the first question they would ask me was, 'are you gonna run a marathon?' There was no just doing something for fun, to improve, to get outside, and to enjoy the sunshine, to get energized, to say hi to your neighbors. Martha Stewart did the same thing with entertaining. She set the bar so high that everything, even little kid's birthday parties, had to be huge, involved, creative-to-the-max events that people had to be all in on. And so people just stopped entertaining because it was too expensive, too time consuming, too pressurized, too much freakin work and no one wanted to have their guests come into their home with a Martha Stewart score card to rate their party on creativity and presentation and hours that went into planning and prep, etc, etc, etc. It's supposed to be fun. Life is supposed to be as fun as possible as well.

Being blackpilled guarantees you can't be accused of naivete.

Showing up to a podcast with a freaky haircut and a beer bottle lapel pin is just peak Malice.

Michael Malice...the missing Peaky Blinder

I’ll be less cynical when powerful people are held accountable.

Been a cynic for quite some time. Believe me, its nothing more than a defense mechanism. And a terrible one at that.

My father used to say, "Always expect the worst, then you can only be pleasantly surprised "

I have to admit, despite my best efforts, that my cold, dead, cynical heart would have to agree that there is indeed some small sliver of joy to be found in some of the examples Mr Malice gave. Stop making me feel joy Mr Malice!

Always here for Michael Malice

I've always thought hope and optimism were overrated. I used to be mistaken for those when I was actually the opposite; truly hopeless. I have no use for hope, because here and now is enough. This is particularly hard to make sense of when you are suffering deeply, but you could suffer and also embrace the reality of your life and path. Hope and cynicism (the way Michael defines it here) are both denial and resistance of reality. Sure I have suffered at times like many people do, but I don't deliberately cling to it when the time comes for letting go and inner peace, or some other mode of being / responding to life. I guess I've always been disinterested in hope because I see it for what it is: suffering. As Pema Chodron says: "Hope and fear come from feeling that we lack something; they come from a sense of poverty. We can’t simply relax with ourselves. We hold on to hope, and hope robs us of the present moment. We feel that someone else knows what’s going on, but that there’s something missing in us, and therefore something is lacking in our world. Rather than letting our negativity get the better of us, we could acknowledge that right now we feel like a piece of shit and not be squeamish about taking a good look. That’s the compassionate thing to do. That’s the brave thing to do." - Pema Chodron, When Things Fall Apart

I get the impression he’s being cynical about cynics and all that suggests to me is that it is something about himself that he doesn’t like or hasn’t liked historically

Please just release the full vid... I beg of thee. Michael Malice always has some incredibly based takes to deliver

"Pessimists sound smart. Optimists make money." -- Nat Friedman

I have to admit I was already in a bad place when the lockdowns hit. I had forgotten that white pill was an option. Thank you Michael for doing the work to remind us. I'm with you on this 100%

1:50 love the contrast, lol When you have to host your classy guest but had to hit the gym beforehand

Lex Fridman is now Michael’s barber.

Michael Malice is a hilarious dude. He reminds me of a real life Tom Yates from house of cards

Really odd to hear Mike arguing for hope. Haha. Never struck me as that guy. If Malice thinks you're too full of despair, pay attention.

LOVE THIS!

Mike Malice is awesome.

Simple Jack’s really gotten a handle on that stutter

I had a cynical friend who would let out this caustic bark of a laugh if she heard anyone say anything hopeful or optimistic about the future, or share a dream or passion, or be vulnerable. And then she would say something dismissive and nasty. Her favorite quote, from a Sturgill Simpson song, is "I don't have to do a Goddamn thing except sit around and wait to die."

@3:00 did Michael say Dave is very failed comedian lol

Malice sounds pretty cynical when it comes to cynicism. Me personally, I am positively enthusiastic about cynicism and think it’s great.

The analogy at 2:00 is perfect

That was uplifting. I absolutely agree.

That's pessimism not cynicism what he's describing.

Michael fookin' Shelby

Where is the full episode?

Nice of Chris to dress up for this one.

Why are they laying on their sides on the floor conducting a podcast?

I think people lose hope and rather than lambast them for it, when many have lots of good reasons for feeling this way, it would be better to try and give them hope or show them your more hopeful perspective while you show them empathy for theirs. I think it's a shame there's so much cynicism, especially if that motivates people to give up trying for better, but I also understand why there is such a feeling of hopelessness.

I resemble that episode. A pessimist is never disappointed if it's a bad as they thought, well then ok, but if it turns out even the least bit positive, it's a win, win.

My favourite combo ❤

The type of person I hate the most are grifters who live off being an “expert” in a political philosophy that could never be implemented. They might as well espouse the politics of My Little Pony.

I suppose there are degrees of cynicism, and I think being cynical about everything is terrible. But, I think it's reasonable to be cynical about certain things. Michael says that "as long as you have one counter-example, the thesis is disproven" (0:35). I don't agree with that at all, because you can be cynical about something if your odds are bad, or if the amount of work isn't worth the outcome. For example, I'm cynical about winning the lottery. There are real examples of people winning the lottery. But it's not worth the time or money to purchase lottery tickets. This tells me that the "as long as you have one example of a success.." logic is flawed.

Michael Malice is definitely an optimist with that hair cut!

We got a malice episode coming soon too? Happy days

Having courage is very important, I believe Michael Malice has both "Moral, and Physical" courage...Do I agree with him all the time, NO! Do I respect him, YES!

Is helplessness/efficacy a main difference between cynicism and nihilism?

The truth is a double edged sword

I have many films, songs, TV shows that I like.. but none of were made after about 2010.. I think nearly everything made after that does suck. If that makes me a cynic then I don't give a toss

Stating that you hate people who think differently than you has never ended poorly in the history of the world. It always ends well and always helps.

I love Michael

We call those “buzz kills”

Im gonna make a book. I want to call it: if you dont do something you wont fail 😂

Personally I do not hate anyone , there are only some behaviors that to me are without any sense or meaning so I try it avoide them in my personal life .

The cynical might more often be correct by critiquing systems that do same thing and deceive the many into thinking this time will be a different result. Cynicism toward systems of gasslighting and deceipt are wise to be distrustful. I do not see cynicism as lacking mental acuity. In fact constant disbelief is the basis of rational questioning and not being lulled into false beliefs.

bowlcut on point.

In work i over promise to have something, some target where I can achieve the impossible, I cant get there without the pressure of expectation and delivery. In my personal life......the exact opposite. I expect nothing good of anyone and then when I meet people of value (few and far between) im blown away. Go figure 🤷‍♀️

Assuming the worst case scenario seems like a pretty rational strategy to me vs merely believing stuff will work out on it’s own.

I've never met anyone like this.

Good game.

Very happy to see that the Leprechaun of Lviv has taken a break from the front lines in Ukraine to give this interview

A person spending money on the Lotto knowing the odds is a fool unless he wins. Being positive in impossible odd is not a winning strategy.

I hate professional victims who hide behind loaded pity, nihilism/deconstruction logic, and misinformation to exist

I think he’s talking about feelings and thoughts of apathy or sloth. Most people do this when starting a goal. “It’s pointless I’ll still be fat” etc is a feeling of apathy. I think it’s just the subconscious mind rebelling in the face of a new goal. The mind will lie to you and show up when you set a new goal. Fear apathy and anger usually the first to show up. Same as the lust for results. People get stuck in fantasies etc

I always thought cynicism was more about believing that humans are easily influenced and have self-serving motives. So I'm cynical in that regard, but not in the regard he's talking about.

While Malice isn’t wrong about extremist cynicism, the whole “this is the absolute reality of the world and nothing I do will never change it” types. But the fact of the matter is a lot of societies cynicism is more than justified given how the leaders of our country (USA) as well as other leaders across the world run their respective countries. Especially here in the US where money is essentially the only law that matters and fvck the middle class. Most cynicism generally operates from a position of “prove my worldview wrong, give me a reason to believe that we can/should be hopeful” which I’d argue is a far better position to approach this harsh world we live in vs just being blindly hopeful and optimistic.

4:44 The way forward is not something I feel equipped to answer. We don't want society to devolve into brutality, sane people don't want authoritarianism, but we seem to run into this endless quandry of "if I die for my beliefs, does it matter to anyone but me?". Does choosing a hill to die on have an effect when someone else is sitting on the bottom checking their watch, waiting to make a parkinglot out of your hill?

When you try to hold someone's feet on the ground, sometimes you end up burying them.

Clearly he was overtly optimistic of his skills when he gave himself that Lloyd Christmas ass haircut!

Malice belongs as a faction boss in peaky blinders.

Why is Malice trying to look like Moe Howard? LMAO

I also hate people who rely on suppressing art to exist. They're almost always the same group of people as my last comment though so ig 2x1

Cynical idealism: the world is hell and life is suffering, but we can create heaven on earth with reason, science, and technology. Acknowledgement without acceptance.

Have Nick Rekieta on

What Chris mentions at the end about movies is the opposite of what I employed once. I went to IMDB and looked for some of the worst, lowest reviewed movies ever. I found one and enjoyed watching it just to spite the commenters on IMDB who said the directors should be imprisoned for releasing the film 😂 The movie wasn't great but it far exceeded the descriptions in the reviews.

Never piss off your barber mid cut

I hate everybody equally and unconditionally

Cynicism isn’t about everything being bad. I don’t fully get the argument. For some sure but that's not it's definition

Hollow words all considering

This dude should be more cynical about the person who cuts his hair.

Conan O'Brien made a great speech about cynicism during his final moments as the tonight show host before getting replaced by Jimmy Fallon.

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It sounds like Malice is confusing nihilism for cynicism, no?

You will never change this for the better with government or beaurcy

How can anyone be cynical about life, and still be alive?

I see what your titles guy did there...

''Modern cynicism has been defined as an attitude of distrust toward claimed ethical and social values and a rejection of the need to be socially involved. It is pessimistic about the capacity of human beings to make correct ethical choices, and one antonym is naiveté.'' this is the first definition of cynicism that shows up on google. Sounds amazing to me and Id like to make some informed cynical friends :) I am happy and a cynical so it works great for me! lets decriminalise this cute word.

I came to the video simply because I thought the thumbnail had to be photoshopped... I was wrong

Im here

Perhaps Mr Malice and Mr Hitchens should have a little chat about defeatist cynicism.

Its easy and gives people an excuse to not try

I really liked what Michael had to say, despite his bad haircut. And my man Chris appeared to be a litte under-dressed for the occasion. I forgive you Chris! Lol.

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He’s angry because he got a bad haircut 💈

That haircut🫠

In my lifetime, cynicism has been alternately considered cool (ex: grunge era), sad, pathetic and realistic. Never cared, but I think I'd be considered a cynic. I also don't think I'm using it to avoid undertaking the thought processes that should get me to "hopeful." Based on what I've seen, cynicism makes the most sense...it IS my conclusion, my "doctoral thesis," if you will. Yes, another philosophy probably would make me a more productive citizen, maybe even happier; but my conclusion is my conclusion. Just saying.