I remember Jim Ross saying that no real wrestling fan wants a wrestling company to fail. I agree.

Thank you Simon for being the voice of reason once again in the voice of the crazy. I want AEW to succeed. I want WWE to succeed. I want TNA, NJPW, and every other wrestling promotion to succeed. Everyone wins when there are options.

Thank you, Simon. However, it isn't going to stop. Wrestling fans now a days are the worst. Especially online. Alot of the wrestling youtube channels and wrestling journalists are to blame too.

I agree with you. The whole WWE vs. AEW needs to stop.

People love the tribalism… it’s human nature

There should be no WWE vs AEW vs Impact vs NJPW vs Any other wrestling promotion. Any wrestling fan that says a wrestling promotion should shutdown is flipping stupid. The more wrestling the better. Wrestling fans need to stop telling other wrestling fans they are wrong for being a fan or not a fan of a certain promotion or style of wrestling. Watch what you want and let other fans watch what they want to watch.

I’m a fan of wrestling, I love both companies

I don't like AEW and i rarely watch it. But I don't want it to go away.

The "empty seats" pics are TRULY INSANE. Why? The people taking the pics BOUGHT TICKETS and are CLEARLY THERE 😂

You need to show this to the WC peps as they do this all the time 😂😂😂

Thank you for this Simon. The IWC is out of control.

Simon I don’t always agree with you (I mean I do on this topic of course) but man you seem like just the most genuinely nice dude who really does feel this positively about these things and that kind of authenticity and outlook is rare and appreciated.

Without a doubt if AEW didnt happen then WWE wouldn't have stepped their game up to what it is now, the Bloodline, Judgement Day, Logan Paul as much as I can't stand him prob wouldn't of gotten a chance n so on n so on

AEW are a new and exciting addition to the industry that has managed to battle at the top, I can't see why anyone would think this is bad for such a new company.

I just hope the haters realize if AEW tanks, and WWE is the only televised game in town, wrestling in itself will suffer, AEW fans that came back to wrestling because of AEW wont go over to WWE but will just find something new and go back to going out to indy events. WWE fans need to realize that there are wrestling fans that like the in ring action more than soap opera drama and promos, and WWE really doesnt bring it when it comes down to in ring action, the style is slow and safe. Plus with no competition WWE will get stale, we have seen it before, itll happen again.

AEW has been a blessing in pushing WWE, absolutely. AEW's greatest contribution is the chilling of the smart marks online. This is wrestling, we are all wrestling fans in a era of social media. This should be the most fun and interactive time to be a fan ever. It hasnt been over the last 10 or 15 years. The online has been endless moaning, complaining, looking for a the negative. A entire generation of fans grew up watching endless YT channels whos entire gimmick was, "reported by Dave Meltzer". This generation was programmed to find something to complain about. Then they got their utopia and purely gates in AEW. ALL the online favorite workers, a billionaire owner that was one of them and a TV deal. AEW was the pot of gold at the end of Vince's evil WWE rainbow. Well AEW has had their problems and it hasnt been that dream promotion of endless 30 minute 5 star matches where everyone gets pushed. I believe this has humbled some of the online haters and that has been a blessing. This is fun again.

Simon thank you. You seriously put into words what I never could.

Too bad more wrestling commentary/review channels can't think the same way. So many spread more lies and rubbish causing more bitterness between fans.

Just think of this, without AEW....CM Punk would of never came out of retirement n for sure without AEW...CM Punk wouldn't of returned to WWE!!!!!

This Simon guy gets it.

Simon one of the few YT creators that enjoys all wrestling

Simon, you are the best thing on the internet. Positive entertainment!

These are the same people who think that if a wrestler loses a match that they are closer to getting fired

I love these videos, man. Its refreshing to hear some optimism not only towards the world of pro wrestling, but, on the Internet in general.

Thanks for spreading positivity, Simon. The existence and success of AEW will continue to elevate the industry, which is great for both wrestlers and fans. We can express our opinions online and crisize the products but shouldn't be wishing death to any wrestling promotion.

Love both wrestling from WWE and aew can't get enough of it both have great characters and stars and competition is good for both companies

Loving the videos lately Simon. You’ve been working hard. How are you doing? You seem a little tired in your face in some of the videos and I just want to make sure you’re not overworking yourself. Love ya brother!

Simon miller. Well said. 👏👏

We love you Simon, thank you for always being so level headed about things!

Imagine euroleague fans trying to get the american MLS league shut down, because their league is the best and the biggest thing.

Thank you Simon for explaining to the wrestling fans. Why another company needs to be around and how you don't have to watch another company. You can watch whatever you want. People get so hardcore into the WWE versus AEW and aren't actually paying attention to what's actually going on and what would happen if AEW shut down. WWE will literally go right back to the way it used to be and it wouldn't be as hot as it is right now. That's what WWE fans tend to forget.

As an accountant, I completely agree with you and it's best for all wrestling companies to succeed. That's a lot of jobs between each company.

Thanks, Simon, for being the voice of reason! This tribalism stuff with AEW and WWE is nuts!

I think both companies have their plusses and minuses. I personally get the most entertainment out of NXT. But i love wrestling. Its why i watch WWE, its why i watch NXT and its why i watch the AEW clips I can find. I believe the thing people forget, is having options is good for everyone. As another youtube wrestling personality says, "Like what you like, don't be a dick."

People like being part of a team and that's what this is. That's also what the attitude era was. There are many downsides, but it's also a driver for engagement overall.

I concur Simon👏👏👏 over my lifetime. I have enjoyed all types of wrestling then I take a break then I’m back I preview everything out there and I like what I like at the time. Thank you for entertaining us and I’m glad I found your channel I love watching you because it’s obvious you love what you do and you’re very very good at it carry-on I’ll be watching🎄👏👍 Happy holidays🎄🎄

Thanks for the video Simon, I hope you have a great day.

7:04 - 8:33 This Summarizes perfectly how I feel about this Tribalism stuff. Even if you Hate the WWE or Vice Versa AEW. Let them enjoy it without making fun of the other show CONSTANTLY. Whether its the unnecessary CM Punk hating since he came back, the wrestling sucks, Its too sports Entertainment or this show didn't draw as much as this AEW show or In the case of WWE fans shit talking AEW It's just spot fest wrestling, this wrestler wrestles like shit, This person has no personality, There's no good storylines, Half there arena's empty. Just Shuuut uuuup. It doesn't matter. Its wrestling. If you hate WWE tune or block the entire shows or post about it out. Again Vice Versa If you really Hate AEW. Focus on what you Love. Don't shit talk a product you don't watch nor care about for NO REASON. Its childish and stupid. Let the people who watch those products critique them. And if you watch both critique both, But there's a difference between critiquing a product and saying how you think they can improve versus troll comments that just shit on the company or people who don't like it shit talking matches and promo's that they probably didn't even watch to begin with. If you have nothing good to say about the product say nothing at all and watch the product you love. Let the other people watch and talk about their preferred product in peace. And If you like and WATCH and want to critique all of them TNA, ROH, AEW, WWE, NJPW, MLW, Etc. Then good for you critique them to your desire, but if you don't then don't speak on stuff you only see small clips of and don't truly watch. Sheesh people.

Simon i wish we had more positive fans like you, because fans wishing death on a company are worst than scum

THANK YOU! Competition is everything.

After TV right drama over, wwe fans are going to lose their minds when they realize wwe fail to finish AEW

Simon thank you so much for making this. We really need to have more content creators talking about this issue because the IWC has gotten so out of hand. I got back into wrestling as a dejected fan because of AEW, doesn't mean I hate WWE. I actually think WWE has a great product right now and probably would never have stopped watching years ago if it was of the current quality. That being said, I feel like since all the CM Punk stuff has gone down the IWC has gone even more mad than usual and most of the discourse is around ratings, ticket sales, production issues, etc vs. what is actually happening on our screen. Any twitter/tiktok/social media comment thread under AEW or TNA is filled to the brim with people trashing the product to the point where you can't have any dialogue at all. It's just sad to see people cheering on the failure of a company and loss of jobs. AEW/TNA/NJPW/ROH are certainly not for everybody but a majority of WWE's star wrestlers built their names in other companies (or reinvented themselves there). I just hope we can appreciate the fact that there are multiple wrestling promotions operating on a major scale. I certainly don't want things to go back to the way they were because it makes things so much less interesting

Chris Jericho said that AEW exceeded most people's expectations. But it hasn't exceeded Tony Khan's or his own expectations. So no he didn't just say that AEW is ahead of where they're expected to be.

Thank you Giovanni Vinci, I love your KZfaq channel!

And why should AEW get special treatment compared to Impact, ROH or NWA?

THANK YOU

Simon, it's never gonna stop, not while they're somewhat comparative in things like tv deal or production level. Some people just live to pit two things against each other. We can have a big fight over whether Mars Bars or Twirls are better right now and whoever "wins" out argument, we're not gonna make a difference, the argument is gonna rage on. The only positive thing that could really come out of it is for the loser to not think it was worth it to actually fight over it and the winner also to think the same, though it's harder for the winner, being championed is harder to step down from than losing. The "winner" will have to sort themselves out and understand that "their victory" wasn't of any significance and is holding them back. That's the only way this stuff ever improves, baby steps.

i absolutely adore what wwe is doing right now, im trying to get into aew but i came in late and im still finding it tough to catch up on stuff because of the lack of a wwe network type service (unless i just somehow missed it), but i would say i really like what ive seen from aew too, i was firmly on the side of nxt back during the original black and gold days (quite honestly my favourite period in wrestling history) and when they were basically going one on one against aew i was a pure nxt supporter, but i never wanted aew to fail or be snuffed out because it has benefited wrestling as a whole so much

A lot, not all, of the AEW hate goes away if Tony Khan himself along with his EVP’s, stop behaving like children.

People say AEW and WWE both have bloated rosters yet still wish for one or the other to go out of business. If you were real fans of the wrestlers you'd appreciate more people being able to do what they love.

I don't think it should stop. For so long we suffered having only WWE as the major promotion. Existence of AEW has given us chance to do all types of debates n comparisons which is fun for us fans. It doesn't mean we want one od them to fail.I don't see anything wrong with that

Love ya ya freaking legend

Tony Khan is the creator and ultimate destroyer of his own company. Period.

Feels like a monopoly if Warner knows AEW and WWE shows. Eric told us Warner wanted nothing to do with WCW. Times have changed either we can enjoy both companies either way.

I'm a fan of professional wrestling. Not the WWE or AEW. Lucha Underground was my favorite modern wrestling show. I wish that LU was still around today. Lately I've been watching OVW on KZfaq. When you watch OVW you have to keep in mind that your watching a training school. Those wrestlers are taking the first steps in following their dreams. It's not polished and there are technical difficulties but overall it's very entertaining. In the long run I hope that the people that I'm watching on OVW make to the WWE and AEW.

Couldn't agree more let's just enjoy wrestling for fuck sake. Although wrestling podcasts keep it going because it gets clicks. Conflict=clicks so wrestling media is part of the problem

Many of these agreesive fans use that football hooligan mentality from both companies. They lash out as if there's nothing more important in their lives but to humiliate other fans just because you like a wrestler that they don't. There's a reason these "fans" don't want that Simon Miller positive energy. A recent example is CM Punk returning to WWE. The hate from these loyal fans to vilify Punk and devalue the opinion of Punk's fans has become very intense and from both companies. They don't want another company as an alternative and they force their offensive rhetoric in the most fascist way possible.

The only reason aew existed in the first place was because vince made wwe painfully unwatchable for the last 2 decades. Now that triple h is in charge aew has lost its purpose/identity. At this point aew is existing just to pay dudes who cant get a wwe spot. Which is great! Only trouble is tk sucks owning/booking/being a boss.

I don't watch wrestling anymore but I still follow it because you always make your reviews so entertaining. I wish you'd do ups and downs on this channel so I could unsubscribe from Whatculture.

AEW does need to start booking smaller venues. That would kill the rumors and pictures of empty seats.

You are awesome Simon, i cannot agree more with your wrestling stance, thank you for being a positive pete and making your awesome ups and downs videos.

This video was badly needed. People taking sides businesses they make no money from.

I don't know what's goin on, competition is good for the industry, the war between WWF vs WCW was one of the greatest times in wrestlin!

AEW fans on Twitter were saying Jack Perry is better than Seth Rollins 👀

I just hope the devil reveal is better than the black scorpion reveal back in Ric Flair and Stings hey day.

I want everybody to succeed, but this shit's getting me fed up!!

First commenter! Simon, you're the best. You get the most devastating maneuver on the Internet... the UP!

I watch marky D review TNA matches cause I got really into TNA at a good time in my life and after my grandpa passed I stopped watching wrestling entirely and now that I’m back into it the mix of TNA and humour brings me to a nice place mentally

I don’t watch AEW anymore and I don’t care for the current product, but I don’t want it to go anywhere!! I also hope WWE never buys it. I love this wrestling boom!

Positivity gets an up! ❤

I honestly thought this was gonna be about the Deadline debacle.

Both shows have stuff I like and stuff I'm not crazy about. Honestly they're not really the same product so comparisons don't make sense.

thank you simon

People who participate in “brand battles” are the weirdest bunch to me. It’s like the console wars and how stupid it is to argue with each other around which console is better.

I completely agree with you Simon, but there’s no debate to who Father of the Year is.

Well said

WWE moving to the same network as ECW was the death nail for ECW, they wouldn't want AEW on the same network, history could repeat

The wider world thinks pro wrestling in general is stupid and silly and all of us here have poor taste for liking it. It makes it particularly sad that we then do the same thing to each other and attack each others taste in wrestling.

Competition is healthy for both the talents and companies, it's getting near to the none miss shows of the attitude era. I love it all 👍👍😃

Competition makes everyone better

I just want someone to go back to believable, long form story lines that I can get invested in. It happens way too infrequently.

Tribalistic fandom is ridiculous in any entertainment field, not just wrestling. Other people liking different things to you is not an attack on your personal identity or the things you enjoy. I'll be honest, I find WWE utterly unbearable, but I have this incredible solution called "not watching it". I don't care whether other people watch it and I don't feel the need to go around telling people off on social media for enjoying a different thing to me. The other really frustrating thing about the 'WWE vs AEW' narrative is that it short changes all of the other wrestling that's out there. There are so many great companies and so many great wrestlers across the world, and there's absolutely no need to pretend that only two of those companies matter.

The way some fans talk about wrestling I question if they really even are fans. Their focus isn't talking about wrestlers, matches, or promos they like they just endless talk business like they're an executive. I've even had so called "fans" mock me for referring to wrestling as an artform. At this point I couldn't care less that AEW doesn't have the same ratings as WWE. Is Pepsi an invalid drink because it will never sell like Coke? The tribalism surrounding wrestling just feels so toxic. You can't speak positively about something without inviting people to be mad at you for enjoying something. I mainly watch AEW, but I don't waste my time endlessly shitting on everything WWE does and put down the good talent they have over there. There is this certain type of WWE fan that can't just accept that AEW exists and has fans. They need to root for its failure and endlessly criticize it in bad faith. If they took that energy and focused it on actually enjoying wrestling they'd be much happier people.

I love the content and I am a huge fan of wrestling in a whole, and that means with competition will truly benefit everyone. I do disagree with one point. WWE wouldn't top off if AEW went away and again I don't want that i enjoy both but different leaders at WWE so it would be different. Vince was a problem in the last decade +.

I watch both promotions at diffrent times I prefer one or the other it's a great time to be a wrestling fan 😎

Let's not compare WWE and AEW, but let's credit AEW for WWE's success. Ok sure Simon.

Wwe vs AEW is similar to two passionate sports fans arguing about who's team is Better.and so called Armchair Wrestling executive's who don't know anything, give their opinions based on what THEY want and also based on the lessons of the Monday Night Wars. And also the Toxic Critiques of people Eric Bischoff and Jim Cornette (and Brian last) and Vince Russo and people who feed off that stuff is so crazy

What we often forget is that wrestlers are people too! If AEW gets dismantled, a lot of people onstage and backstage would suffer the repercussions because they would lose their jobs! It's alright to hate AEW because the show is not for everyone, but please don't wish for its downfall.

Comment of the year: "What do I know? Not a lot... I couldn't even keep my hair!!". Next hot Pro Wrestling Tees: Bald man slapping head with same comment!

Does it actually make sense to take what people employed by one company say? What else should Jericho say? I don't think it makes sense to argue about wrestling promotions either but I couldn't care less about what the people employed there say. I think it's a good thing that Vince is gone. I don't have a problem with "outdated" stories but his booking hasn't been remotely consistent for years. Today all WWE shows are enjoyable to me and I simply don't have time for more wrestling.

I don’t want AEW to go away but I think Khan needs a humbling simply cause I hope it’ll make him realise he needs some help running the damn thing and get some writers in to craft some good stories

TBH - I use to watch AEW when it first started - was super hyped for the first All-In... then the debates of WWE and AEW by WhatCulture, WrestleTalk, etc. and the toxicity of AEW fans turned me off. Stopped watching AEW since.

Simon just has life figured out . Love you, man.

when aew came last 2019, i thought wwe will work harder and improve so that both will be neck to neck in the competition to see who’s better, but the storylines in mid-late 2019-2021(apart from nxt’s storylines during that time), yeah aew easily won, but when cody returned last 2022 with the stories in 2023 getting better and the whole controversies in aew started, i have one thing to say, “i do hope aew will fix everything and go back to what they need to do, be tough competition to wwe so that it will be neck to neck and not an easily pure luck automatic win”

Reason why i love wwe so much is because i am use to the brand and the superstars , so if i have to change to aew then it'll suck because i don't want to get use to people in aew , so AEW should just go down

2:16 this exact sentence would be contextually different if it was coming from Jim Cornette ☠️

I hope it will be a 3 way. Rock might need help covering, being away so long from the ring. Cody can finish his story and have another rematch 1 on 1 with Roman afterwards

People need to stop and have the mindset of wwe needs to have everything and become a powerhouse monopoly. Imagine if AEW ended and most jumped back ship and wwe would have to figured out how to managed over 200 wrestlers on tv weekly. We need another major NA company.

But wheres the Up Downs video for Deadline????

I don’t think taking pleasure in the failure of others is healthy. However, that is not the same as being critical of art/the product. As a strong believer in workers rights, I think options for every industry is a good thing. People should have options to negotiate their pay. But live attendances and lower ratings are signs of mistakes. AEW in the last year or so have driven off fans for whatever reason. This is true of any company. I want AEW to succeed. But they seem to have lost momentum and I’d argue their choices are not leading to growth, in the same way that post WCW, WWE’s choices didn’t lead to growth. I want to see AEW turn it around for the benefit of everyone.