Cheap Mercedes C220 CDI - This is exactly why you should NOT buy old Diesels!

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10 ай бұрын

This old , high mileage Mercedes, was always going to be trouble!
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@leemccurtayne9489
@leemccurtayne9489 7 ай бұрын
I purchased a “C220 FROM 2012 WITH 200K ON THE CLOCK” a lady one driver, meticulously maintained. The fuel bill is minuscule and performs better than its petrol equivalent. It reaches it top speed faster than the petrol version, with a higher top speed and on 25% less fuel, WINNER!!!!!!!!!.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 8 ай бұрын
I still miss my old Seat 1.9 TDI 110hp, in the end it was old, had a ton of miles, but the fairly simple engine was so tough. In the 15 years I had it, apart from some discs, bushes and normal servicing, it needed nothing, returned 50 to 60 mpg......it was quick enough after being chipped, utterly brilliant car !
@Termiic
@Termiic 7 ай бұрын
Have my 1.9 tdi 66kw - that engine will live forever. There are good cars and bad cars. You had one of the best of the best.
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 5 ай бұрын
1.9TDI is a very, very understressed engine which is why it lives so long.
@user-je6zh8yd1l
@user-je6zh8yd1l 4 ай бұрын
All the 2l diesels we've had have been tough and unstressed and have covered a lot of miles with little more than fluid and filter changes@@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 4 ай бұрын
I know my 2.0 idi is at 430000km aka 267000 miles@@user-je6zh8yd1l
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 4 ай бұрын
I had a 110bhp Toledo many years back, it was much nicer than the VW equivalent Bora
@chadford6729
@chadford6729 10 ай бұрын
I have the same car. So couple of points the engine will not regenerate the d.p.f if there is 1: an engine fault code present. 2: the fuel level is below 15 litres. 3: the ash content is too high. Fix the air mass first then drive the car it will heat up the Dpf rapid you will know it’s regenerating because it will drive faster than usual and a lot of heat will be felt under the the drivers side. It will clear the Dpf in about 15 miles if in good condition. They don’t suffer from Dpf problems unless the conditions haven’t been met. Good luck
@drewcorbett7603
@drewcorbett7603 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree mate 👍
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
Cheers bud
@BadMuflon
@BadMuflon 7 күн бұрын
Im a taxi driver driving an 2018 c200d om651. The car is doing 99% city driving. Never had any issues it... Maintanance is key and premium diesel!
@Parknest
@Parknest 10 ай бұрын
I have the saloon version of this car on a 58 plate with 219K on the clock and the 6-speed manual transmission. The diesel engines are generally quite bulletproof. The intercooler hoses are prone to splitting but they're not too expensive to replace even from the dealer. It is worth running some Cataclean through the fuel system. I've done it on mine. One big issue with the W204 is corrosion on the rear subframe. Fortunately, this should be covered by warranty. I'm a Topdon fanboy myself and I would definitely recommend their products are they're good quality.
@jamesdavis8425
@jamesdavis8425 10 ай бұрын
If yours is the 200cdi or 220cdi it doesn't have the dreaded dpf
@geoffmyatt9699
@geoffmyatt9699 10 ай бұрын
If good fuel used and annual can of bg44k dpf will be fine ,it’s supermarket syrup that wreaks them
@Parknest
@Parknest 10 ай бұрын
My OM646 is none the worse for supermarket fuel although Costo's offerings are preferred due to the cost. BG products are good. I think you meant BG244 because BG44K is for petrol.
@michaelcavagnaro8387
@michaelcavagnaro8387 10 ай бұрын
Depends how hard you drive these modern diesels. Diesel is over 7 dollars a gallon in Germany so they drive very conservatively and the motors last. Older diesels lasted well. New ones far less bulletproof! Timing chains and oil leaks are a problem.
@user-cs7fy3nm4f
@user-cs7fy3nm4f 9 ай бұрын
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@23toxic23
@23toxic23 10 ай бұрын
I just bought the Topdon Artidiag 600s. You and Car UK have pipped on about their products so much I thought I'd give it a go. Brilliant bit of kit. Cleared codes and solved the problems I'm amazed how it does stuff right in front of your eyes. Its incredible. Saved me £££ that a mechanic would have charged me and I can save again when future issues come up. Glad you and Car UK show us this stuff. And pay you guys for promoting it. Win win all round. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Good kit isn't it! I dint take payment from them BTW. They instead support the raffles with kit.
@23toxic23
@23toxic23 10 ай бұрын
@@ChopsGarage Yeah it's brilliant. I had the engine warning and airbag lights come on. Plugged it in and code for low turbo pressure and driver's seat air bag. Found a split in the intercooler pipe. Saved me loads as a garage charges £50 plus to plug in their machine. And silly amounts on top to fix it. So thank you for pointing their products our way.
@robd9863
@robd9863 Ай бұрын
Is the one you bought, the Artidiag 600s, better than the one linked to in the video description, the AL500B? I'm new to using a proper one and have tried the cheapie ones but they don't show a code for the ESP faulty that's coming up on my dashboard.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 9 ай бұрын
P2463 is probably a result of the MAF being faulty. If the mass airflow sensor isn't reading correctly the DPF regeneration will be inhibited so it will keep accumulating soot. I'd take a gander and say that when the MAF works properly, the DPF will clear itself out during a few drive cycles. MAF code could also be caused by a leaky boost pipe or an EGR valve that is sticking open if it's a performance code.
@T3-RIDER
@T3-RIDER 10 ай бұрын
My old 2.0 diesel xsara is touching on 250k miles What's wrong with old cars lmao? 😂
@Barbarapape
@Barbarapape 10 ай бұрын
You won't get that sort of milage out of todays cars, some engines fail under warranty. The rest fall apart at 100K miles
@T3-RIDER
@T3-RIDER 10 ай бұрын
@@Barbarapape 100% agree, wife had a 2014 peugeot 308 1.4 and the timing chain snapped at 53k miles. Destroyed the engine
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 10 ай бұрын
Pre dpf are fine apart from egr valves but the modern shit the emissions equipment is so bad even worse on the euro 6 diesels especially jaguar land rover there dpfs are melting/cracking at low mileages so a dpf clean wont fix them
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 10 ай бұрын
​@@Barbarapape 2.0 hdi /2.0 tdci ( same engine) are amazing and last past 300 thousand miles if looked after, yeah parts will need replacing but that's maintenance..... everyone moans on about injectors and Duel mass flywheels etc yeah parts need replacing if you can afford that get the bus😂
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 10 ай бұрын
​@@ryanmccormick2150I have that engine in a 2011 mondeo . Its fast and has great mpg. Shame its euro 5 that might be it's downfall as things progress.
@chrisadams6595
@chrisadams6595 9 ай бұрын
We had a 2 litre hdi automatic hatch back , kept it for 14 years used to cruise to south of France in it at 3,600 rpm in top = 106mph by the satnav And 50mpg overall , truly great car
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 9 ай бұрын
They do good MPG for sure
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2006 Citroën C4 1.6l, 16 valve diesel coupé which I bought for €2800 at the beginning of last year. 240K KMs (150K miles) on the clock. Apart from a freak occurence which broke the turbo (€600 replacement), it runs like clockwork. I know it will break down one of these days but is a great drive and gives me lots of freedom. I drive carefully and get 70 MPG from it. If you look after an old car it will look after you.
@tridaks
@tridaks 10 ай бұрын
Bet you can't convince Sadiq!!
@tonygarlingewarren7456
@tonygarlingewarren7456 10 ай бұрын
Sadiq is a moron
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 9 ай бұрын
Turbo failure is a very common problem on those 1.6 PSA diesel engines. The turbo was almost intended to be a consumable part after 200.000km, there is a strainer in the oil supply line which gets clogged and starves the turbo of oil. Fords and Volvos with this engine will suffer the same fate.
@Paulscnccreations
@Paulscnccreations 10 ай бұрын
James I love the Mercedes. Quick note. These cars need a regen every so often. It should do it automatically. Hence the engine management light. Keep up the good work.
@donnapierce8558
@donnapierce8558 10 ай бұрын
I had the intermittent engine light and limp mode that turned out to be the DPF needing a good clean. They told me to constantly keep the fuel over a quarter of a tank. I also had the bulb warnings, that was where someone had put LED upgraded bulbs in, the sensors couldn’t pick up a current. Went back to the old style bulbs and warnings went. I love my 2010 E Class Coupe … I always had big contract hires costing £400 a month so bought this for 5k and figure every month I don’t have a problem I’m building up a decent repair fund. Lovely looking cars and great drive… plus I get 43 to the gallon… but no Satnav was a shocker.
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! If people spent what they pay on finance on a new car on maintaining their old one, they’d have a brand new feeling car in a year.
@andrewmalyon5699
@andrewmalyon5699 10 ай бұрын
Will easily do 200,000 m but like all diesels needs regular long runs, no good for pottering around.
@Thoughts_from_a_Small_Island
@Thoughts_from_a_Small_Island 10 ай бұрын
For anything DPF related have a look at O’Riley’s Autos on KZfaq. He has great success cleaning the DPF, without removing, and I think he’s covered a least one C220.
@fastkeys38
@fastkeys38 10 ай бұрын
I was going to say exactly this. If the MAF is faulty it may be preventing the DPF from doing it's normal regen and cleaning itself. O'Reilly's always says don't clean the DPF until you've solved the underlying issue!
@Ellis_B
@Ellis_B 10 ай бұрын
Yeah he good
@henrykravitz468
@henrykravitz468 10 ай бұрын
Great video and content. I love the Mercedes estate, it has a good service history. I would probably own that Mercedes and look after it. Love the sound of the engine, when it started.
@dannybrasco7928
@dannybrasco7928 9 ай бұрын
Just found your channel today . Easy best car reviewer on the KZfaq. No one reviews like a normal person and you did. Your newest fan 😂
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 9 ай бұрын
Blimey, too kind
@LBytCH1
@LBytCH1 9 ай бұрын
If the DPF is blocked, there's something preventing regeneration - possibly even just low oil quality. If you're getting MAF codes they might be the MAF or due the DPF being blocked... MAF is an easy change and then a DPF clean (not a forced regen). Then re-evaluate.
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 10 ай бұрын
The problems you came across reminded me of one I had on an older Honda with a 2.2l diesel engine. It dropped into “limp mode”, with the engine restricted to 2000 rpm (70 mph in that one). It was a failed temperature sensor, which the dealer replaced.
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 9 ай бұрын
Electronic sensors not fundamentally diesel mechanics
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 9 ай бұрын
In modern systems like that, they are part of it. When they fail you need to be able to buy the replacement and fit it, once the nature of the fault is detected.@@TekAutomatica
@vangestelwijnen
@vangestelwijnen 10 ай бұрын
My 1987 W201 190D 2.5 lasted 500,000km and then I traded it in for decent money. No worries there, back in the days.
@neilmartin5341
@neilmartin5341 10 ай бұрын
When Mercedes made decent cars. Had loads of 190's over the years
@user-zm8ov6hc7s
@user-zm8ov6hc7s 7 ай бұрын
Bought a E320d one year ago for £1950. Very little paperwork, so had full service at specialist Mercedes dealer. Only problem was temperature unit needed replacement plus had auto box serviced. Runs like a dream and just cruised this years MOT.
@voicheck1
@voicheck1 10 ай бұрын
Check the intercooler pipe at the bottom of the engine for any holes or splits as well as that can cause massive issues
@ComeJesusChrist
@ComeJesusChrist 9 ай бұрын
I’ve had a couple of these, one from 2011 in red with the same Sport trim in an estate, but the 200 CDi manual box. Fuel consumption was amazing, well into the 60s on a long run, but the engine had all sorts of annoyances. Meanwhile, my 2008 C180K was running without any problem and was returning 42mpg on average with very sporty driving. Overall, the supercharged petrol one was a cheaper and more reliable car to run. I’ve had a 2013 E220 CDi and I hated the small Diesel engine in that, that car deserves at least the 250 engine.
@Spooky4815
@Spooky4815 7 ай бұрын
The 250 and the 220 is the same engine in the w212
@ComeJesusChrist
@ComeJesusChrist 7 ай бұрын
@@Spooky4815 I know, I meant to refer to the extra power output. The 250 in that car would match my old W211 E320 CDI’s output from six cylinder.
@richardburfoot8638
@richardburfoot8638 7 ай бұрын
I replaced the front DPF sensor on my 2013 E250Cdi with 155k miles, then the MAF sensor failed … once this was done the car was literally transformed and drives beautifully with ample power, good economy and zero smoke.
@Ro32da72
@Ro32da72 10 ай бұрын
You're not alone James it seems: we're suffering with a 2011 Vauxhall diesel bought recently from a dealer. In a few weeks the list is - gearbox replaced (and still having issues), lighting faults, traction control system warning lights, and this morning, just to add insult to injury, is the second day on the bounce it won't start. Rejection is on the cards for us I think.
@tonygarlingewarren7456
@tonygarlingewarren7456 10 ай бұрын
That's because it's a vauxhall, nothing to do with it being a diesel. 😜
@TRD1949uk
@TRD1949uk 10 ай бұрын
I agree with guy above. Vauxhall so your issue there 😂
@hamstirrer6882
@hamstirrer6882 10 ай бұрын
My experience with Vauxhalls is that they arent any worse than any other car brand, but it is a mixed bag- some are bombproof and go forever, whereas some were built on a Friday afternoon and are just never right haha, I like Vauxhalls though
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 9 ай бұрын
So mostly nothing to do with the actual diesel engine. Sounds more like dodgy gearbox and needs new battery/alternator.
@Ro32da72
@Ro32da72 9 ай бұрын
@@hamstirrer6882 - very true, our previous Vx has been surprisingly reliable on the minimum of maintenance over the last 17 years, so I agree it's nothing to do with the manufacturer. Buying a reliable car relies on a large dose of luck, regardless of who made it. I like Vx's too.
@jamesdate8063
@jamesdate8063 10 ай бұрын
Hi James. Just for info the car won’t regen if it has a fault code active. If you sort the mass airflow the dpf issue will probably disappear with a good run. Oh and should have a dipstick back of the engine on the left hand side.
@limpet7r63
@limpet7r63 10 ай бұрын
Yep same applies to all DPF diesels. You can also force a regen with most decent diagnostic tools after the fault has been sorted.
@kimwhitbread2799
@kimwhitbread2799 9 ай бұрын
Generally speaking the dipstick is behind the steering wheel.!!!
@mattbod
@mattbod 7 ай бұрын
I would say the opposite: old Diesels are less trouble than modern common rail, DPF, Ad Blue motors. Any pre Common Rail Merc Diesel is pretty bulletproof if looked after. If anyone has a nice clean late 90s E300 Turbodiesel I’ll have it off of you!
@flashbeaster
@flashbeaster 7 ай бұрын
agreed, I would call an old diesel merc SLK or any pre DPF motor.
@justso1823
@justso1823 10 ай бұрын
Boost leak and a DPF pressure sensor will be the problem. People over complicate DPFs you don't even need to remove them to clean them.
@markclevedon81
@markclevedon81 10 ай бұрын
This is a lovely car with years of life left in it. There will be issues and pricing reflects this but a Mercedes CDI will probably double this mileage. Diesels can be more complicated but this car has the potential to be a reliable one and a joy to own. A DPF clean , Forte or Millers treatment, an oil change and a good run?
@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild
@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild 9 ай бұрын
"Diesels can be more complicated", you say. How? FFS petrol engines are way more complicated, and likely to have even more to worry about at this mileage. Sure the diesels may have some issues, but they're not complicated at all, compared to petrol.
@markclevedon81
@markclevedon81 9 ай бұрын
But inevitably they are - EGR valves, Turbo chargers, DPFs, Add Blue etc etc. Yes there are equally complicated petrol cars but similarly a basic non turbo, 16v petrol engine will be cheaper to run, more reliable particularly when driving lower mileages at lower speeds and cost less to service overall. If we dare to go back to older diesels, they are less complicated. Modern diesels are efficient, economical and are still capable of high mileages but the trade and buyers urge care. Not worth a pedantic argument really but years in the trade and in charge of fleets, points to lower overall costs with a petrol engine.. By the way all three of my cars are modern diesels. Why? I like the economy, flexibility and long distance ability. I am always weary though and therefore maintain my servicing requirements.@@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 9 ай бұрын
​@@An_Idiot_in_the_WildWell for a start, all diesels are turbocharged where some petrols are not. Diesels have dpf and cats whereas petrol will have only cats. Diesels have two fuel pumps. They have egr flaps which petrols dont, they have intake swirl flaps which some petrols dont have. Some petrol engines are complicated but diesels are almost always more complicated
@aamoir536
@aamoir536 8 ай бұрын
Plus good diesel mechanics are thin on the ground, and will charge accordingly.
@keithhooper6123
@keithhooper6123 7 ай бұрын
Very sweeping staement.My older diesel has neither turbo,dpf,or egr.,and it's totally reliable.
@hotandsweaty6057
@hotandsweaty6057 9 ай бұрын
My old fiat diesel fiat stilo estate did over 300k (200k mine) miles before I retired it for an identical 19yr old replacement bought for £700. Blanked off the EGR valve, regularly clean air mass sensor, use Dipetane fuel additive to reduce particulates, 55mpg overall. Old school high mileage diesels rock !
@nekite1
@nekite1 10 ай бұрын
I was fortunate to have a 6 month old 57 plate C220CDI Avantgarde for 5 weeks as a courtesy car when my Saab 9-5 Aero was involved in a RTA and needed repairing. I really liked it, as it had all the bells and whistles, but I was glad when I eventually got the Saab back, as I much preferred the Saab to drive.
@mikenewbold1699
@mikenewbold1699 10 ай бұрын
how do you remember a hire car form 16 years ago lol
@voicevoice2053
@voicevoice2053 9 ай бұрын
My Seat Ibiza diesel ( VW golf engine) is 19 years old and runs lovely. 50 mpg regularly. Starts on the button every time. why change it? No dpf filter thankfully
@waifuracer6516
@waifuracer6516 9 ай бұрын
I my experience high mileage diesels tend to be very reliable... Assuming they arent a bad construction. My b6 passat with a 2.0pd and dsg has 205k miles on it, bough it with 163k. In 3 years never had a major issue with it. Recently rebuilt the suspension because i knew i was gonna keep the car for another 3 years at least and wanted it to ride nice, and done the dual mass as well because I was starting to hear a little rattle, was told i could've used it for at least another year but I wanted it done. Apart from that car has been absolutely trouble free, its loaded with extras and everything works. Just recently had an engine light for glow plugs, which again, just regular maintenance stuff on diesels. Not even gonna take it to the garage, they are easy to do. Many of my friends own bimmer, audi and merc diesels, they are also trouble free. If they were looked after they will outlive most cars. Its just people buy these premium cars and then not do the proper maintenance and drive them into the ground, then someone buys it without proper inspection and when the engine goes because it had bad oil in it or not changed they blame the brand and thats how the bad reputation builds.
@spingybingy5610
@spingybingy5610 9 ай бұрын
Ive had 3 high mileage 7- 10 year old bmw diesels. I didnt even do regular motorway runs. In fact the opposite- mainly short drives. I made sure tank was always over 1/4 and did a longish spirited drive once or twice a month. Never had any issues whatsoever. Only ever had one merc - it was a petrol 2010 and was terrible with tonnes of niggles (still expensive and often needed a specialist). My mate bought one too at same time- c180 kompressor. He spent 2k on it in the first 6 months. Both had full history and low owners. We swore never to touch a merc again (unless it was under warranty). Obviously good and bad in all makes but just my experience. Just remembered his dad had a A class auto that he had to scrap at less than 100k too. Mercs have fell a long way.
@tomasnokechtesledger1786
@tomasnokechtesledger1786 9 ай бұрын
I rented a Mercedes C220 Sedan in Barcelona in 2010. It was a pretty good car and looked absolute dependable when new.
@stephenmiller2349
@stephenmiller2349 10 ай бұрын
That fault code could be a boost leak causing that code and also to do a battery reset you need to be on the terminals
@Clodhopping
@Clodhopping 10 ай бұрын
I had a lovely Subaru Legacy Tourer in silver like this Merc - great car (AWD, comfy, roomy) apart from the diesel engine.... EGR issues then the DPF went and it regen'd so often like James Bond smokescreen that other drivers would get annoyed. Was glad to get rid of the bloody thing and have never been near diesels since.
@MrTherbst
@MrTherbst 9 ай бұрын
Your problem was that you bought a Subaru diesel. They have never been able to build a good diesel engine.
@michaelarchangel1163
@michaelarchangel1163 10 ай бұрын
Old IDI diesels are fine, barring the high road tax. I have a bought from new 1997 Peugeot 1.9TD with 83,000 on the clock. I recall reading of a 405 with the same engine that had over 700,000 miles on it. A mate of mine had one and lamented trading it in for a 307 HDi that was in the workshop more often than on the road. Direct injection diesels have too many sensors and filters on them to be reliable and the savings in road tax are in no way compensatory. Best regards from South Wales.
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 10 ай бұрын
The 406 was the last good Peugeot TBH, I dream of a 2.1 Executive. The 1.9 was the best but a slug, the HDI 110 was a dream. The 1.8 petrol was a dog, and the 3.0 a rich man's globe.
@MrSunnyBhoy
@MrSunnyBhoy 10 ай бұрын
my parents still have a 2008 408 sw diesel, on 120k miles and never broke down. ppl get in it and remark how smooth and quiet it is!
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 10 ай бұрын
@@MrSunnyBhoy I'm glad, they're nice cars, but have a bad reputation. However, maybe if used at high speed enough (110 km/h +) they're ok. They definitely go around bends nicely!!
@OM617a
@OM617a 10 ай бұрын
Agree on the Peugeot xud engine, it is a very good lump and can be tuned to high power numbers. The other engines worth considering are old Mercedes om615/6/7 and om602/3/5/6, all capable of interstellar mileages even when 50-60 years old. The later ones are also capable of big power.
@stgp16
@stgp16 10 ай бұрын
I have this car and have an air con issue. When pressed the AC light flashes 3 times but wont work. Had it regassed and they said the compressor etc are all good but its a controls issue. Any advice would be welcome for next steps.
@stevenmoran4060
@stevenmoran4060 10 ай бұрын
Back around 2004 I bought a Saab 93, 4 years old, petrol with 99,000 miles on it with a full Saab 2 year warranty. I added another 50,000 miles with no problems at all. I only paid £4000 and it had cost over £20,000 when new. The full warranty was handy as I had only a couple of faults sorted out free of charge and it only got sold because it was somewhat thirsty!
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
I find petrol will do the miles and simpler
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 10 ай бұрын
No dual mass flywheels on torque convertor type automatics. The shock absorbing function is done by the torque convertor slip instead.
@BigBawMcGraw
@BigBawMcGraw 9 ай бұрын
Differential pressure sensors are prone to failing on these cars (found by removing the ECU). Change that and put some Wynns in the DPF and you should be good to go. Seen well over 300k miles on these engines.
@Geordie619
@Geordie619 10 ай бұрын
Excellent Top Don advert. I couldn’t understand why the skip advert button wouldn’t come up 😂
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
Me neither
@nmeister67
@nmeister67 10 ай бұрын
I had a blocked DPF on my deisel BMW. Had a MAF sensor code but in the end, it turned out to be a boost leak from crack in the intercooler. Also had to change the glow plugs as it was also refusing to regen.
@dscotuluv6061
@dscotuluv6061 9 ай бұрын
Im on my 4th 1.9tdi 2 golfs and 2 A4s both golfs 200,000 ish and both A4s 250k + my current is 260 k miles, 10 k on new cambelt n pump. Remapped, pulls like a train and has only used a 1l oil top up this year, and is due nice clean oil soon. Im prepared to put this one past 300k miles. PD130 ... best engine ever 💪
@tomsun3159
@tomsun3159 9 ай бұрын
Yes you are right, all the things listed can happen quite soon, as a dealer a big risk. on the other hand that cars are still developed as cabs. If you repair the things as they occur, clean or change the DPF this cars can run perfectly 600.000 km and more, depending on the operating conditions. if you ran them only short trips, never getting them warm you can kill even these cars far below 100.000 km. As a dealer you have to calculate and to gamble , putting a little aside and do the work as it occurs, or repair all in advance, best use it yourself and repair as it occurs,
@Matt-pc5nb
@Matt-pc5nb 10 ай бұрын
I have a 62 plate with 297k on it and other then the turbo hoses splitting regularly, it's been a dream.
@chrisaris8756
@chrisaris8756 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried getting cars like the Merc and Jag Terracleaned? I had my old diesel Jag done a while ago and the difference was amazing. It did a great job on the DPF too. Not exactly cheap but it really worked
@malcolmbriggs4281
@malcolmbriggs4281 10 ай бұрын
Own mk4 mondeo 2011 156 k drives great just had cambelt kit and alternator bearing fitted.plenty of oil changes.
@trevorsbarkingmadchannel4501
@trevorsbarkingmadchannel4501 10 ай бұрын
Looks lovely car. Hope it’s nothing major wrong. Best wishes
@boyasaka
@boyasaka 10 ай бұрын
I’ve just come back off holiday in Crete I used 4 taxis All Mercedes and all had over 500 km miles on clock And we’re still silky smooth
@twiz1084
@twiz1084 10 ай бұрын
So they should having done only 300 miles
@paulmussett94
@paulmussett94 10 ай бұрын
I have the same model on an 09 plate, its a 6 speed automatic box with a torque convertor. No DMF as its auto. Generally they are excellent cars though they switched to a single timing chain around this year.
@fighne
@fighne 10 ай бұрын
if it's had a Mercedes service after 100K miles then there should have been a timing chain inspection.
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 10 ай бұрын
There was no 6 speed torque converter automatic on any Mercedes ever
@willshaw24
@willshaw24 10 ай бұрын
I work on the 651 engines all the time. Prob got a split boost hose or inlet manifold issue. They snap studs in the head off the inlet manifold. These engines do well over 500k abused look after a fleet of 30 vehicles with that engine. Timing chain guides are an issue and can occur at 130k plus but not as common as the manifold.
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
I'm hearing good things re this engine
@ln5747
@ln5747 10 ай бұрын
So you would recommend that engine? Any others you recommend?
@stgp16
@stgp16 10 ай бұрын
Hey mate I have this car and have an air con issue. When pressed the AC light flashes 3 times but wont work. Had it regassed and the garage said the compressor etc are all good but its a controls issue. Any advice would be welcome for next steps. Or tell me to knob off and take it to a specialist 😂
@MarcMorris-wp7ie
@MarcMorris-wp7ie 10 ай бұрын
I've had a few sprinters up to 2006 and all fantastic...my 2011 Vito is a complete piece of shit😂😂😂...dpf,flywheel,broken springs,electric windows,glow plug controller burnt out....unfortunately didn't burn the piece of shit to the ground...I will stop now before I start on bad language😂
@englishpassport6590
@englishpassport6590 10 ай бұрын
Keep lubed and ....Tap the stud before you turn
@SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES
@SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES 10 ай бұрын
I’m loving the new thumbnails James, and as always keep up the good content ❤
@chucklberry
@chucklberry 10 ай бұрын
651 engine in these which are really good, it may have an outstanding recall for the airbags on it and also the rear subframes corrode from the inside out which the dealers will replace under warranty
@chucklberry
@chucklberry 10 ай бұрын
@@Leslie_Horwinkle no they definitely will do them, they need to be inspected 1st but if found to be corroded they will replace
@davidtodd907
@davidtodd907 10 ай бұрын
@@Leslie_Horwinkle uk merc dealers ARE replacing rusted rear sub frames under warranty.
@rmbandy835
@rmbandy835 10 ай бұрын
Oil dipstick is to the rear of the engine near the bulkhead.
@tridaks
@tridaks 10 ай бұрын
13:17 the earth point is in the top right of the pic on the turret top, but you shouldn't be testing a battery through the wiring unless you just want to get a feel for its health. if you want an accurate reading you need to connect the tester to the battery posts.
@joesuijuris6498
@joesuijuris6498 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2008 C320CDI TURBO...I LOVE IT...done 250,000ks...new turbo 5000ks ago, new ignition, DeCarb, it's dam quick. Only thing is the leather seats are not the most comfortable on long trip. Handles really good...I also have 2008 ML 350CDI AMG...new turbo, decarb, had to replace the suspension pump ...248,000ks now...had it for 5yrs now...Awesum driver.. At higher k's I find that the previous owners have spent a small fortune on problems so I get a good run out of them...
@Barbarapape
@Barbarapape 10 ай бұрын
Unless you do a high milage owning a diesel makes no sense. If you just use them for short journeys your DPF will clog up you can only purge them so many times before a new one is required.
@justso1823
@justso1823 10 ай бұрын
As long as the ash level isn't full you can clean them and tell the ECU it has been replaced.
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 9 ай бұрын
There is an additive to buy that you put in the diesel tank that will clean the particle filter. Instructions for such are often that you should gas 3000 RPM for 15 minutes. There is of course more advanced stuff to clean the Particle Felt as well
@Darskeo
@Darskeo 7 ай бұрын
I’m on my second one of these. My last one had 350k on it when I sold it, it’s still running perfectly, my current one is literally the most reliable car ive ever had. I service it every 10k. Nothing else is needed except consumables. This engine is been used in aviation now for the first time using diesels due to its reliability.
@BruceLethal
@BruceLethal 2 ай бұрын
What year please ? Interested in getting one
@BruceLethal
@BruceLethal 2 ай бұрын
Also do you know the engine code ?
@Darskeo
@Darskeo 2 ай бұрын
@@BruceLethal 2014. Keep it serviced and replace any wear items like bushing and ball joints and you’ll have many years of reliable driving
@alansimpson835
@alansimpson835 10 ай бұрын
Furious Driving, fellow youtuber, had one of these as his daily, albeit the manual, and loved it. Did serious miles too He might have some useful intel
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 10 ай бұрын
A friend of mine currently has one of these - a C220d Estate - far sale, as he no longer needs it. His is a 62 reg, and unusually for a Merc, it's a manual, not an auto. He's getting into business on his own, and has bought an Isuzu D-Max pick-up, so no longer needs the Merc... it's going cheap, as he needs to raise a bit of cash for his new business....... he's around 300 miles from you James, so he won't be stepping on your toes.... Your one looks to be worth every penny of £3495 James....the right colour too. My Skoda buggered up just like this James, and it turned out to be the DPF. It had so little grunt, I needed 2 attempts to get over speed humps.....
@jimmyquinn9639
@jimmyquinn9639 10 ай бұрын
Another good video James 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏👏👏
@alanbellwood3902
@alanbellwood3902 4 ай бұрын
Does it have a DMF being automatic. Usually boost leaks and turbo actuators / turbos on the CDI's I've owned.
@In-hoc-signo-vinces
@In-hoc-signo-vinces 7 ай бұрын
Don't buy badly built old diesels, should be the title. I have 3 all on over 400k , my rocky is on 700k and 34 years old
@davidtodd907
@davidtodd907 10 ай бұрын
i have '12 model since new (s204 amg sports plus ) , now circa 135k miles up with 7 speed auto and i can asure you they dont have dual mass flywheels. the fault code could be dpf sensor which is cheap and easy to fix on a dyi basis.
@chrisdyke7580
@chrisdyke7580 10 ай бұрын
160k miles!!, that’s just run in James. My 2.0L 2007 Ford Mondog with full service history has covered 224k miles and still pulls like a train. Still on the original clutch and exhaust.
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 10 ай бұрын
The 2.0 tdci/ 2.0 hdi same engine is the best Diesel going 💪
@boyasaka
@boyasaka 10 ай бұрын
Does this engine have a Dpf ?
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 10 ай бұрын
@@boyasaka yes.
@superseven220
@superseven220 10 ай бұрын
I had a 59 plate, had 242,000 miles when I sold it. Did have a new clutch at 100,000 miles though. But still flew along even with all those miles. Never had anew exhaust either
@JamesSmith-cm7sg
@JamesSmith-cm7sg 9 ай бұрын
Guy at work has a 2011 c220 with 110k miles. He said he's never had a significant problem. They look pretty good for their age.
@exgtt2061
@exgtt2061 8 ай бұрын
2011 Passat 170 TDI 214k miles Original: DPF & EGR (never cleaned) Injectors and full fuel system Clutch and DMF Turbo and full exhaust Engine/gearbox never opened/separated. I get it from a dealers perspective - repairs are costly. All I do is wait till 80 degrees oil temp before booting, drive off boost last few miles before switch off and let it idle 20secs before I turn key off. Also I only use posh diesel. Never supermarket. Another trick to prolong DMF life is to cruise as close to 2k revs as possible, if you spend lots of time sub 1.5k revs the DMF is rattling itself to bits.
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 9 ай бұрын
DPF issue is likely only the DPF sensor. Cheap and easy to fix though access can be tight, it's jammed up by the bulkhead.
@AUDIS3ROB
@AUDIS3ROB 10 ай бұрын
Guy I work with has a 2012 Merc E220 diesel and it’s done 438k miles, it was used as an airport taxi from new
@dongolfnut5558
@dongolfnut5558 10 ай бұрын
Regrettably am in issues with a 2010 BMW 520d 106000 miles bought from a car sales garage and it's used 2 litres coolant in 3000 miles car sales said 3months engine & gearbox warranty Warning light came on 9 days before warranty expired going back to them we'll see if they fix issue
@kamilianos
@kamilianos 10 ай бұрын
good luck. I hope they accept it and that you dodge the bullet. Sell it and get something simple.
@NotRubensDad
@NotRubensDad 10 ай бұрын
My Kia diesel seems to like a tank of BP Ultimate diesel every few months, seems to help keep the DPF demons away.
@keithcrawford6598
@keithcrawford6598 10 ай бұрын
Hi James I have a Vitara with high miles same issue ie Dpf had it bored out and ecu reprogrammed so it’s not looking egr and dpf is this sommit u do on mainland or just a N Ireland solution lol Ps top man love ur vids and ur honesty 💯👍
@doublevisio
@doublevisio 6 ай бұрын
The dip stick is right at the back of the engine near the bulk head. The battery is under the boot floor. Did the previous owner ever change any bulbs?
@sitaylor9322
@sitaylor9322 10 ай бұрын
All the bits you just mentioned are Fairly cheap if you go to the right places and nothing wrong with a Diesel with that mileage on it
@pjohnwilliams6941
@pjohnwilliams6941 10 ай бұрын
1.9 tdi Pd engine in my Passat is still going strong 312k. Best diesel ive opened
@tonygarlingewarren7456
@tonygarlingewarren7456 10 ай бұрын
It's usually the dpf pressure sensor not the dpf, mercs regen really well compared to others . The pressure sensor is much cheaper and quite common.
@stephenrichards5386
@stephenrichards5386 10 ай бұрын
I had to pay €1500 in 2003 on a C class for two blocked DPF
@tonygarlingewarren7456
@tonygarlingewarren7456 10 ай бұрын
Ouch, they don't usually block. Jags however, they do all the time.
@Djpaul-lo1px
@Djpaul-lo1px 3 ай бұрын
@@stephenrichards5386They saw you coming.
@stephenrichards5386
@stephenrichards5386 3 ай бұрын
@@Djpaul-lo1px the German manufacturers see all British coming. I bought many merch while living in France. Never saw a poverty pack. They sell them low here and then screw them with options
@devilmahon666
@devilmahon666 10 ай бұрын
Just a thought. The speed limiter hasnt been set to 60mph has it? Its on the stalk to the left of the steering wheel.
@paulf2529
@paulf2529 10 ай бұрын
Possible but the limp mode also limits the top speed and max revs in each gear i had this before on a 2011 mercedes sprinter with a bad air flow meter. Fixed this and it went back into limp as the EGR hadn't regenerated during the fault so had to do a force regen. Nightmare fault and dangerous if your towing.
@-DC-
@-DC- 10 ай бұрын
Airport company near me runs base model diesel E Classes some of them have over 600k on the clock, Maintenance is absolutely everything.
@mitchie1169
@mitchie1169 9 ай бұрын
i have a faulty MAF sensor on a 2015 diesel Focus mk.3.5 - the engine light comes on then it will go into limp mode after a few more miles - OBD error code is P1103 which is the MAF
@streetfightertutorial
@streetfightertutorial 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a technician but the coolant temperature seems to be a little high for a diesel engine, so unfortunately I guess the problem might be the actual dpf filter.
@stuartfitch7093
@stuartfitch7093 9 ай бұрын
Your correct chop in what you say about old cars. But I would go further and say people need to be realistic when buying any car. There's nothing to say that nothing will go wrong with a newer car. My last car was only 3 years old and had only 35k miles on it when I bought it from a local Peugeot garage. I only drive around 5k miles a year so thought I would have it for a good few years into the future. The next thing the dashboard started lighting up like a Christmas tree. Different warning lights in different combinations would come up at random times. So I would take it back to the Peugeot garage I bought it from and they would look at it, tinker with it, take the lights off, tell me I wasn't using it enough, then I would drive away only for it a few days later to light up again. So I got rid of it again at a loss. That's my rant on Peugeot's done. I won't have another one again after that even though that garage still sends me invites to special car sales events. In total contrast to this, one of the first cars I ever owned was an old Vauxhall Nova (maybe some people out there can still remember them), it had 95k on the clock when I bought it, I ran it for three years without spending anything beyond the usual MOT and service costs. I didn't even have to replace a tyre on it or a light bulb before I sold it for more money than what I originally bought it for. You can get a mid week built car or a Friday afternoon built car. It's the luck of the draw.
@richwilliams9895
@richwilliams9895 10 ай бұрын
A sensor goes wrong and it will prevent DPF regen taking place as the ECU is no longer able to determine whats fully going on so can prevent DPF regen. I did notice its air intake temp seemed to think it was over 60 degrees id certainly hope thats farenhight else that can also cause poor running.
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
So sort sensor first
@stuontwo677
@stuontwo677 10 ай бұрын
People don't like paying a premium for low mileage because often when trading in said low mileage car, it doesn't attract a premium.
@MrSunnyBhoy
@MrSunnyBhoy 10 ай бұрын
lovely Merc. but I was in the market for one of these, petrol version due to ULEZ, saw one down south but on looking at the mot history it was shocking. Corroded brake lines and rust are common on these, i couldn't find one that didn't have these issues for up to £9k and the dealers were selling these at a high price! in the end i opted for a 2010 BMW 320i. I think ppl should have a good think about the kind of driving they will be doing before buying a disel as otherwise you are going to have dpf issues.
@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount
@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount 7 ай бұрын
Just had my 06 BMW 116i MOT’d today. No advisories. Keep old cars alive people.
@jamesward5721
@jamesward5721 7 ай бұрын
Took an Astra petrol to just shy of 500k - a 1.4. Have a soft spot for older 1.4 petrols with no gubbins ever since. They seem to be the sweet spot for "What petrol car will do big miles?" Diesels will do it but there will be big bills. Economy/reliability - pick one.
@leeharrison2746
@leeharrison2746 9 ай бұрын
My 2012 bmw 320d M sport has 246000 miles on had it 7 years never misses a beat
@bathanmark
@bathanmark 7 ай бұрын
Whats the update on the car? What happens when you unplugged the MAF?
@stevesmith581
@stevesmith581 7 ай бұрын
My 2011 c250 CDI has 182k on it, it went into limp mode with full dpf code but it was split hoses, I use a Merc specialist (not main stealer) and once he’d changed the hoses he ran the dpf regen with no issues. Looking at that list of services mine had similar suspension linkage replacements etc. I’m looking at getting 250k out of mine 👍👍🤞🤞
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 7 ай бұрын
Good on you , I love a high miler
@stevesmith581
@stevesmith581 7 ай бұрын
@@ChopsGarage thx, the interior really is like new, car drives very smooth and does 48-52mph. To get a post 2015 one that meets ULEZ needs, I’d need to spend another £12k… I’m much happier to try to get this to 200-250k 🤞
@hallga2
@hallga2 10 ай бұрын
The Earth connector is on the top of the strut as you can see in this video. Its the brass stand up stud on the right.
@snoopy10411
@snoopy10411 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 61 plate Volvo XC60 D5 AWD SE Lux with 153,000 on it for £5k with FSH in January and been really happy with it.
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 10 ай бұрын
High mileage is not a death warranty that people think it is
@MrAlphafang
@MrAlphafang 9 ай бұрын
Does the automatic C220 have a dual mass fly wheel?
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 10 ай бұрын
So why shouldn't we buy a old merc diesel then? I'm left a little confused?
@PaddyWV
@PaddyWV 10 ай бұрын
The door handles on that Mercedes trigger an element of OCD in me. Because they don't appear to be in line. One of the Range Rovers does something similar with its handles. Funny thing is, when a Chinese company manufacturered a clone Range Rover, they actually placed the handles level!
@guitarman63
@guitarman63 8 ай бұрын
I may be wrong! A torque converter gearbox doesn't have a DMF. Only required on Manual or DSG.
@loooodoooog
@loooodoooog 8 ай бұрын
Is it common practice for a buyer to use a OBD diagnostic reader on a car when viewing ? Looking to get a reasonable high mileage A6 Avant.
@barryshitpeas5837
@barryshitpeas5837 8 ай бұрын
Would be wary tbh depend on the car so key cloning etc. Likewise what they plugging in? Definitely not something where they can fuck about with the settings etc, a £15 Aldi one maybe as it’s very basic. But it won’t flag up codes for SAS etc.
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 4 ай бұрын
Always fix every other code before even considering touching the DPF The DPF will not regen if there are other faults present, so any soot codes are often caused by continuing to drive the car when regen is disabled
@ChopsGarage
@ChopsGarage 4 ай бұрын
cheers yes learned this
@Jackthesmilingblack
@Jackthesmilingblack 9 ай бұрын
Can you switch that tester to metric measurement terms?
@Manu-Official
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I previously had a near new 220 in AMG trim for 10 days - not sporty, not good on fuel, rattly, narrow power band (nothing outside of 2500 to 3500 revs) , noisy, 9 speed gearbox didn't know what it was doing, rear lights were letting water in.
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