Really? Prove you are a physicist. How many bananas do you need to create a blackhole?

Not to be crass but this demonstration is exactly what I would call a nonsensical analogy rendering incorrect predictions of actual experiments. It has a place in the history of quantum mechanics (proposed by deBroglie), not quantum mechanics itself. Edit: this is explained in the video of course, but for a lot of people the picture of that vibrating ring will already have latched on to their mind.

No, his titles and thumbnails, unless you watch his videos, almost seem boring, but they are always good, not like the titles that tell you Elon musk did something he didn't, or that space ships in orbit around earth are lurking and acting suspiciously.

@@rutger4131 stop being a crasshole, no analogy is perfect if you want to be pendantic about it.

​@@digitalcitizen4533 I'm not being an asshole, ironically you are the one calling names. I'm pointing out that the thumbnail claim 'this is an electron' is really the wrong picture. I agree, no analogy is going to be perfect. But you can weigh the benefits and the drawbacks and I would say that with this analogy the drawbacks outweigh the benefits in a way that will inhibit future learning. I like Action Lab videos, that's why I'm here. A slightly different angle ('could this be an electron' or 'why this isn't an electron') could've worked out very well.

My favorite is his onlyfans

@@wulfrache holdup

I learn so much so quickly from his videos.

been watching for 5 years and hate his content

@@bloodakoos Been watching 8 years and I spy on him from the bushes every night, waiting for my moment to pounce.

If you'd like a deeper dive, the "electron in a box" exercise was what I saw in undergrad chem to make the connection.

@@AySz88 Cool, thank you!

Im wondering if the odd vs even modes could be extrapolated to say something new about the visible universe

They are not equated to standing waves, this is just a thing how to visualize them. Reality is much more complex.

@@steveunderhill5935 It does, Unfortunately it dives into areas of quantum physics that are frankly beyond what chemistry is really capable of looking at. There are both odd and even half-wavelengths depending on what exactly you're looking at, and I reccomend looking into the principles behind Electron Spin if you want to know more about exactly what all that's about.

incomplete would be fairer it's not that you get taught the wrong thing, it's just not really worth going deep on a subject with kids that are mostly just being taught how to learn stuff.

Been following this channel since when i didn't even know what an electron was. Today, I was able to tell every single thing before he even started explaining. The schooling is not at fault but the student might be. (Answering this based on indian education system)

Oversimplified to the point of being wrong. 100% would watch that.

I definitely remember all this stuff about waves in the orbital at school.

The right word would be "approximate". Approximations are not strictly wrong--the human mind constantly thinks in terms of approximations. It's what makes physics a uniquely human endeavor, in spite of all the math.

This a is core problem with both chemistry and physics, assumptions get taught as fact. In a way I get it, if you have a model and the assumptions work, at least you can still get results. There is a major flaw in the logic still, but it works. I just wish when it gets taught there is a disclaimer of 'we actually really have no idea but maybe it's this'.

if you think the ring is cool, look up steve mould and his chaldani patterns (i probably spelled everything wring there) but its essentially standing waves but with plates of metal instead of rings, with grains of sand on top. the sand will naturally travel to the spots on the wave that are static and aren't vibrating, creating some sick patterns

@@kingcosworth2643 I mean whenever I've taught physics or astronomy when it comes to energy levels of electrons I do give a disclaimer that I'm using an "incorrect Bohr model" but tell them it's considerably easier to comprehend the ideas. But I think the bigger problem is simply because the "reality" isn't something that really is observed, we're simply told "here's the math that says this is how reality works but we can't show you that it's working" is a hard concept to swallow. I remember taking quantum mechanics as an undergrad and in grad school and it largely felt like all I was doing was math problems with no real connection to reality. Also don't recall any experiment told to us about experimentally recording the position of an electron multiple times to actually show those "electron clouds" other than computer simulations. Now I have seen experiments done with a 2 slit experiment where you can actually see the electron interferes with itself as it goes through either slit (both slits at the same time/wave nature), but other than that nothing of evidence was put forward. And IMO that is a big problem with any type of science, the whole "trust me, this math is right your perception of reality is not"

You do not localise the electron or the photon when you measure them. What you're localising is the interaction with measurement device. When you use a thermometer or an infrared camera to measure the temperature of a macroscopic object, the effect of that interaction on the measured system's temperature is negligible when compared to the desired precision. This is not the case when measuring quantum phenomena. We do not know how to make a measurement with negligible effects on the measured quantity. The electromagnetic radiation has a wavelike cyclic behaviour, the interaction energy is what is quantised not the radiation itself. Hense the non local properties of certain interaction like a "single photon" interfering with"itself" or "two entangled particles" instantly reacting to "each other". Non of the quoted expressions are meaningful. What we refer to as "a single photon" is the minimum quantum of energy that produces the emission of electromagnetic radiation which behaves the same in a double split experiment as radiation with larger energy.

Think you might appreciate this guys channel. @HuygensOptics

So vibration has an effect on matter? (Scratches chin like a Tibetan monk)

@@badguacamole3709 Quantum shenanigans; just like tunneling, they are probability fields. _that was my takeaway at least_

@@badguacamole3709 there's nothing else than vibrations / waves in the Universe - matter is just another mode of electromagnetic vibrations as shown by this experiment

I am not sure but this is exactly what I got in my textbook in physics lessons, I thought it is a common demonstration with de broglie wavelength

@@fireblossom8544 Oh really?!

Apparently they don't obit but just vibrate and make a wave that doesn't move

I was going to comment, I'm wearing my Ducktales T-Shirt...must be 80s kids day today.

right on, but who wears TWO T-shirts at the same time?

ignore this comment 🙃

Ignoring the comment for a moment, that pfp is so cool!

Looks like a shirt 10yo kid wears🤓

Then how about positrons :)

I thought technically they had a positive charge because Ben Franklin had a 50/50 chance and was incorrect?

Isn't that dangerous?

Yes, stay well within your orbit and don't go nuclear on your loved ones

Thanks man hope my day gets better it's been going rough :)

I have an idea to simulate the double-slit experiment for electrons. Using tennis balls to simulate the electrons, is anyone interested in doing such a simulated electrons’ double-slit experiment? The double-slit is made of tennis balls, and you will shoot tennis balls through such slits. A tennis ball hit through this slit will collide with balls on its borders. Consequently, the direction of balls coming out of these slits differs from theirs entering it. You may also move the tennis balls on edges randomly and periodically to simulate the distribution of electrons around nuclei. I expect you will produce the so-called interference pattern. Of course, most balls that go straight through the middle of the slit are unharmed. The double-slit experiment for water waves fundamentally differs from a similar experiment for electrons since an electron is too small to compare with a water wave. The edges of a double-slit made of atoms may be continuous and even smooth to a water wave for its long wavelength. However, to our electrons, the similar edge is not straight and sure not smooth due to their tiny size. So, I guess that electrons passing a slit will interact with the electrons on the edges of a slit. Since the electron’s distribution is dynamic, these interactions differ from electrons and time, and their accumulated efforts eventually produce the so-called interference pattern. Of course, photons’ double-slit experiment and their so-called interference pattern are the same.

@@user-vp1vl6yp9t and if we try to measure the tennis balls location and velocity is it passes through the tennis ball slit it always goes straight through without the interference pattern?

@@ewmegoolies It depends on the energy you use to measure the tennis ball's position and velocity. In other words, is the energy large enough to change the trajectory of the tennis ball because measuring the position and velocity of electrons and photons has an effect on those electrons and photons. A tennis ball is too heavy to feel the energy from a radar or laser speed gun, but electrons and photons can.

​@@user-vp1vl6yp9t Do it.

@@lookupverazhou8599 yes, i will try to write a program for it. the edges of the slits are definitely an active part of the electrons' double-slits experiment, unlike in the case of water waves， where the edges aren't.

Use water

Technically you're seeing it in 3 dimensions, your brain just ignores the third dimension because the circle is too thin

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​@@user-zn4pw5nk2v Dude no shit, that would be dope af ngl

another clue that people who believe and trust "the science" are cretins. scientific knowledge constantly changes. what we believe to be indisputable might be laughable to people in a hundred years

The world is even simpler. There are no quarters, electrones, atoms, molecules, chemical compounds, cells, algae, worms, amphibians, fauna, mammals. All these are standing waves and they change under the influence of the composer who creates live concert here and now There are no cases, there are laws that create our illusion of the world.

same, actually. I think he's trying to time videos with the school curriculum to get more views? or just a lucky coincidence

Thanks for adding! I have a question, because electrons can only be excited by a specific amount of energy, if each orbital is a standing wave, when energy is released the electron drops down to the next stable harmonic frequency?

No, the jumps is as instantaneous as it can be... and it's impossible to measure an electron "during the transition", for Heisemberg among other reasons Stop pls

It's not a jump. It is an emergent event. The electron exists not as a ball but as a cloud (of probability) around the nucleus. That cloud takes certain shapes based on harmonic oscillations at each "orbital” (better is envelopment). Just like what was shown on the ring, the shapes manifest as discrete forms at each discrete envelopment level. There is no continuous transition taking place whereupon one shape transitions (morphs) into another (at a different orbital).

@@raeStrong Yes, but the process is not instantaneous. As the electron releases energy in the form of a photon, it simultaneously moves to the lower state. The electron loses a specific amount of momentum to the photon. By E=pc, the massless form of E=mc^2, and conservation of energy, the loss of momentum is a loss of energy. Because the electron now has less energy, it is no longer stable in its current orbital. Think of orbitals as specific shapes, and electrons orbiting atoms behave more like waves. That shape is not stable for a lower energy wave, so the loss of momentum “swooshes” the wave into a different shape, which is a gradual process (very fast though).

@@TheChzoronzon The jumps are not instantaneous. The evolution of an electron through time is given by the Schrödinger equation, which is continuously différentiable for all finite potentials. As the electron behaves more like a wave when captured by an atom, its state necessarily changes gradually. The amount of time that the transition takes is inversely proportional to the energy lost/gained. In natural units, it is apparent that for the transition to last one Planck time, a change of one Planck energy is required. I’ll let you infer how much energy is required for a zero time transition. What you may be confusing it with is the measurement of the electron state and the electron state itself. We can only measure an electron’s energy at discrete values because during a transition, its energy is not well-defined. It is only well-defined once it has settled into a stable state. In-between states are definitely possible, but they are unstable, which is why we cannot measure an electron as being in those states. Also recall that by interacting with the electron, which is required to measure something about it, you disturb its evolution through time; can you then see the slippery slope that implies that measurements are instantaneous?

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Indians learn engineering in highschool

@@WHITEDEVIL-zq5hi lol yeah

@@WHITEDEVIL-zq5hi False, it's not even close to the E of engineering However still near the half E And before you say anything else, I'm Indian myself

@@iacAon arre, just sayin like, we are taught too much than required....words pe nai emotions pe jao bhai

@@WHITEDEVIL-zq5hi Your words were more than enough misleading to cause deviation of one's thoughts from trying to understand you

yeah I think it's phase change. It explains why every type of phase change goes against thermodynamics.