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Ranking Every Legendary Special Weapon in Destiny 2 for Endgame PvE

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Aegis

Aegis

Күн бұрын

Before we move on to power weapons, ranking all the special weapons together was a highly requested video, so I decided to make one before we do machine guns!
Tier list: tiermaker.com/...
Scoring sheet: docs.google.co...
DPS spreadsheet: docs.google.co...
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No timestamps for this one since some weapons are talked about for so little time that KZfaq will not create chapters for them

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@Vike4-10
@Vike4-10 10 ай бұрын
"I don't want this video to be 3 hours long" I mean... I would watch it. But I know it's a lot of work. Thanks for another great video!
@iESCAP1SM
@iESCAP1SM 9 ай бұрын
I just played this upload on .25 speed and it basically does the job
@FrenchieHugo
@FrenchieHugo 10 ай бұрын
I’d argue for Heritage to be in S tier as it’s good not only for damage, but for tanky yellow bars too, universally just good
@frederikm.christensen8898
@frederikm.christensen8898 10 ай бұрын
same for succesion honestly
@zageri
@zageri 10 ай бұрын
seeing it lower then fucking supremacy is WILD
@TrainerCameron
@TrainerCameron 10 ай бұрын
@@frederikm.christensen8898I think ever since updated supremacy came out succession became a bit worse even if they are both rly good
@nadeemg1831
@nadeemg1831 10 ай бұрын
@@TrainerCameron I consider supremacy to be a dps sniper and succession to be a major buster. Since snipers arent really a go to dps weapon i give the win to succession
@TrainerCameron
@TrainerCameron 10 ай бұрын
@@nadeemg1831 fair enough
@Rios-ov3xi
@Rios-ov3xi 10 ай бұрын
He knows his destiny gun names like some people know Pokémon.
@emeraldsaiyan4953
@emeraldsaiyan4953 10 ай бұрын
I know em too 😼
@brain.exehasstopedrespondi9832
@brain.exehasstopedrespondi9832 6 ай бұрын
They are just so dang unique
@Monty2017
@Monty2017 10 ай бұрын
I love the list and content you’ve been putting out. You truly deserve the come up. I think you’re too focused on the void 3.0 perks on hollow denial. Lead from gold make the weapon a far better replacement for a primary than you give it credit for, especially since this is an end game tier list and you’re much more likely to run out of ammo with the other far higher placed traces in this list if you try to bring them into a master raid or grandmaster.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Lead from Gold is fine but that's still not enough to push it over the traces above it
@lolicomics
@lolicomics 10 ай бұрын
I mean you can just use cenotaph and the other traces and use heavy xD
@ryanrobins945
@ryanrobins945 10 ай бұрын
@Monty2017 Special finisher makes lead from gold not that good
@lolicomics
@lolicomics 10 ай бұрын
​@@ryanrobins945 huh? Im saying that you should USE other traces, not pick hollow over them. edit: mb didnt see your edit
@ickoxii
@ickoxii 10 ай бұрын
"i probably wont order the bottom two tiers within each tier" immediately proceeds to sub-order the next 6 c and d tier weapons
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
LMAO
@fartmicrowave
@fartmicrowave 10 ай бұрын
Babe wake up my opinion on special weapons just got uploaded
@boez_
@boez_ 10 ай бұрын
Real and true
@707imperial
@707imperial 7 ай бұрын
😂 TRUE
@Ryan_JMC
@Ryan_JMC 10 ай бұрын
Bro the consistency of quality content you’ve been pumping out is really impressive
@fpgamemearray
@fpgamemearray 10 ай бұрын
top tier video as always, might be subjective but well executed An idea for a future video might be damage strategies for every raid boss. I know the spreadsheet has suggestions for speedrunning, but it would be nice to recommend something to the average joe in the average LFG that is not thunderlord.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
I have a video in the DPS series that covers this, but I'll probably update it at some point
@NTO4GPredator
@NTO4GPredator 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic more than that im more excited for a Solo focused damage rotation video or even a Duo focus for low man things or just so you dont rely on others or if you dont have people to play with etc
@jazzcat2639
@jazzcat2639 10 ай бұрын
Wake up! New aegis video!
@yurpcrusher123
@yurpcrusher123 10 ай бұрын
Yall sleep a lot Lol
@jazzcat2639
@jazzcat2639 10 ай бұрын
@@yurpcrusher123I wish. I’ve been up for 5 hours so far
@FeelGoodDivine
@FeelGoodDivine 10 ай бұрын
Babe died
@jazzcat2639
@jazzcat2639 10 ай бұрын
@@FeelGoodDivinebabe will be deeply missed 😭😭😭
@Deschained19
@Deschained19 10 ай бұрын
I’ll make the coffee
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
Just a random observation: it's funny how Hollow Denial's usefulness is so tied to Volatile Rounds. In S20 we had Volatile Flow from Orbs of Power, and so you could just splash Hollow Denial into any build and suddenly you're getting an overshield on almost every kill with a borderline infinite-ammo trace that also does a bunch of AOE damage, making it easily the best trace rifle unless you specifically need Shoot to Loot. When that's not there, it suddenly becomes really niche--basically need Gyrfalcon to take full advantage of it, or maybe a really good Void grenade build.
@max73916
@max73916 10 ай бұрын
voidlock on contraverse is def my fav build and i use hollow denial with echo of instability
@DerpsterIV
@DerpsterIV 10 ай бұрын
Contraverse used to be my favourite for voidlock but now I'm having a ton of fun with the new voidlock gauntlets from this season
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
@@DerpsterIV Which, I guess given the mass weaken you'd be putting out, likely also means a lot of Repulsor procs. Good thinking
@lazykb
@lazykb 10 ай бұрын
Sword breaker had a place in this seasons meta by being strand which will enable Monochromatic maestro for strand titan melee DPS. Mono got fixed tonwork with strand recently!
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Yep! Looking forward to grabbing one for Caretaker and other similar bosses
@Strange-xc4qn
@Strange-xc4qn 10 ай бұрын
In the current meta glaives are highly underrated, with a mix or great survivablility and good overall boss damage a glaive is always a great choice. whenever im running my lfg strikes I always get top score with my triton hunter build. It really destroyed first encounter of crota of day2 (day1 was too hard)
@RabiaGunslinger
@RabiaGunslinger 10 ай бұрын
To add to what you've said, since most glaives are legendary they open up your heavy slot for thunderlord which makes for a deadly combination
@bofa722
@bofa722 10 ай бұрын
​@@RabiaGunslinger☠☠☠☠☠
@masonwillms2542
@masonwillms2542 10 ай бұрын
​@@RabiaGunslingerforget thunderlord, queenbreakers bow is meta now.
@mabaxb
@mabaxb 10 ай бұрын
I cannot believe you left that one weapon from that one activity in that rank. Smh
@DadsThermostat_
@DadsThermostat_ 10 ай бұрын
love that youre getting the recognition you deserve
@boez_
@boez_ 10 ай бұрын
Nah, he deserves way more
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
I'm going to make the same comment as in the fusion list about Nox Perennial vs Eremite: If my goal is to dump all my energy special ammo at a boss because I've blown through all my rockets or whatever (which seems to be the best-case scenario for Controlled Burst--if doing a swap rotation, why pick a fusion?), there's an extremely obvious better alternative in Merciless. If my goal is to dump all my kinetic special ammo at a boss instead, I don't think there's nearly as obvious a 1:1 replacement. Forerunner maybe? Supremacy? A shotgun? Pound-for-pound Eremite is the better gun (entirely because of solar heavies being king rn), but because the competition in slot is so stiff, I'm not actually sure I'd rank it higher.
@harbinger7976
@harbinger7976 10 ай бұрын
Love how after all your previous ranking videos you put all the pieces together. Great stuff!
@milogorden6400
@milogorden6400 10 ай бұрын
I know it would be a lot of work but i definitely would love and watch a 3 hour vid of you going in depth and ranking every single special weapon
@elito7023
@elito7023 10 ай бұрын
Really happy with Xenoclast being up there! I use it on arc hunter with lead from gold/one-two
@aidenflynn7917
@aidenflynn7917 10 ай бұрын
Personally I’m a big fan of the Shepard watch with genesis/sympathetic arsenal. It absolutely melts redbars in strikes and can two body dregs in gambit.
@JUJU13392
@JUJU13392 10 ай бұрын
a sniper rifle "melts" "red bars" in "strikes"
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
@@JUJU13392 whoosh
@nathanflinchum1153
@nathanflinchum1153 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely a hidden gem fr
@bofa722
@bofa722 10 ай бұрын
Bruh cooked and made Gordon Ramsay jealous 🔥🔥🔥
@icmonster2174
@icmonster2174 10 ай бұрын
could be interesting to get multiple content creators to rank weapons like this and then take a overall average rank for each weapon, get an idea for what the community as a whole rates these weapons and hopefully remove some of the bias from each individual's ranking. would also be interesting to see pve Vs PvP opinions
@matthatter3353
@matthatter3353 10 ай бұрын
Yesss keep the content comin! Just subscribed a few weeks ago cause of this similar series and you are literally my top 3 watched Destiny KZfaqrs rn. I usually have trouble wondering what to use and these are helpful guides. You should do legendary primaries and heavies too
@RagnellAvalon
@RagnellAvalon 10 ай бұрын
I'll look forward to rewatching this when I understand enough about Destiny 2 to appreciate it
@Kaeiand
@Kaeiand 10 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, I know the weapon damage modifiers got removed but Voltshot still seems like an interesting inclusion on some otherwise mundane weapons (Sole Survivor SR, Unexpected Resurgence GV, etc). Do you think proccing Jolt on a boss with them to start a swap/B&S rotation is a non-starter? Or just overlooked/underrated?
@joshuaandrachek492
@joshuaandrachek492 10 ай бұрын
I would imagine that the time it takes to get a kill,reload and then apply jolt would not be worth it dps wise compared to using a good special with frenzy or vorpal. Maybe if you could get the kill and reload before the dps phase begins. Also if anyone else is using gathering storm or another source of jolt it would be pointless for you to have a weapon with jolt.
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
Jolt is worth about 5k dps according to the spreadsheet. By way of comparison, holding down left click on Divinity with Cenotaph is almost 29k, and that's the weakest gun on the entire "Single" tab. Even if it were good dps, you could also get it from something like Gathering Storm or a grenade. Voltshot's basically only good on primaries and POLR these days, and not for boss DPS reasons. (It's super nice for wave clear and overload stuns, though.)
@Kaeiand
@Kaeiand 10 ай бұрын
@@joshuaandrachek492 Yeah, I would never try to proc Voltshot and apply it mid-phase, I would only use it pre-loaded before the phase begins, similar to Golden Gun.
@Gage-tp9ix
@Gage-tp9ix 10 ай бұрын
A few people already answered, but also keep in mind you would be better off just throwing a grenade to proc jolt rather than setting up voltshot as well.
@Kaeiand
@Kaeiand 10 ай бұрын
@@Gage-tp9ix Ideally, yes, but in low-man content or if you've an abundance of Solar/Strand/Void, I could easily see a world where there just isn't a source of Jolt already present.
@pigs_luv_bacon5624
@pigs_luv_bacon5624 10 ай бұрын
This is what I needed in my life!
@Ysl489
@Ysl489 10 ай бұрын
Great video once again, actually surprised that u as a speedrunner give glaives so much credit. I actually use glaives from time to time in solo gms if unstop glaive is a thing but for me not a single glaive would make it into B-Tier. I basically never use them in other endgame activities.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Before I became a speedrunner I played pretty much all the endgame content there is (lowmans, contest, GMs, SF dungeons, etc.) so I have an appreciation for the different aspects of what people choose to do once they've grinded everything out, I'm lucky enough to still be in touch with a lot of my friends that do still participate in a lot of that content as well :D
@lucienmoolman8017
@lucienmoolman8017 10 ай бұрын
I would not mind a 3-5 hour version of this video, considering you upload when I go to bed so I get fall asleep to most of your videos
@mexicanwithahat6064
@mexicanwithahat6064 10 ай бұрын
auto loading lead from gold wave frame in c is a sin
@uhhhh_hi
@uhhhh_hi 10 ай бұрын
not the first to say this but I really think it's more important that a weapon serves a (at least fairly common) role notably well than having a versatile perk pool; ex. I'd value having the best pair for tractor swapping (comedian) over having another one of five shotguns that's just Pretty Good at both dps & major killing
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm restructuring the list more around best roll vs. diversity next season
@SenorGermaine
@SenorGermaine 10 ай бұрын
So an arguments I would pose in favor of wastelander and swordbreaker maybe being bumped up a tad still within the A tier is lightweights are just the best shotgun for one-two punch builds because of the movement bonus. You aren't getting damage from the shotgun, so that doesn't matter as much as with other weapons, and with builds like AC hunter or a syntho/banner of war titan being reliant on being very mobile, you'll just want to have the shotgun out most of the time. Plus swordbreaker and wastlander have passive reload perks which just makes for better up time. But yeah, they're solidly A tier
@max73916
@max73916 10 ай бұрын
i think rapids are better slightly cus they get crazy amounts of ammo and u can proc 1-2 punch more often
@SenorGermaine
@SenorGermaine 10 ай бұрын
@@max73916 That would be beneficial if you needed to proc 1-2 punch a ton, but tbh you really aren't using it a ton. I don't tend to ever run out of ammo with lightweights. I think rapids are probably the next best option for 1-2 punch shotty's because of the higher handling but lightweights just kind of win for passive bonuses and consistency
@max73916
@max73916 10 ай бұрын
@SenorGermaine lightweights have higher handling though so ig more of a reason lol
@dabtasticcharizard9817
@dabtasticcharizard9817 10 ай бұрын
Holy moly. EVERY LEGENDARY WEAPON? now thats ambition
@TheShadowPhoenix
@TheShadowPhoenix 10 ай бұрын
I’m ABSOLUTELY here for a deep, long video about endgame Special discussions, but praying you don’t overwork yourself
@OneBadBandit
@OneBadBandit 10 ай бұрын
Your content is amazing! I would loooove a movement tech video too, since your one of the best speed runners :)
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
I have some basic movement stuff in my Starting with Speedrunning guide
@Solxr7
@Solxr7 10 ай бұрын
Me when Tacofraud exists. (I too love Aegis).
@marekr.1384
@marekr.1384 10 ай бұрын
great video! would love to see one about heavies and primaries as well keep it up my dude
@stinkydinkyps3
@stinkydinkyps3 10 ай бұрын
Finally the video we were all waiting for
@georgewashington9445
@georgewashington9445 10 ай бұрын
been looking forward to this exact video
@shiftym1
@shiftym1 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you dislike deliverance since it is pretty good with chill clip.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
If Riptide didn't exist I'd like it more
@dtps_champion6016
@dtps_champion6016 10 ай бұрын
probably shouldn't have spent time reordering d tier my brotha. minor nitpick! loving the content
@notrecruitnow
@notrecruitnow 10 ай бұрын
These videos are such a banger that I want to get married to aegis now. When’s the wedding?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
My goodness gracious what in the crabcakes
@notrecruitnow
@notrecruitnow 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisReliclast I checked that’s not on the calendar 😊
@angelotomasi9413
@angelotomasi9413 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisRelicso there will be crabcakes at the wedding? Do you have a swordbearer picked out yet? I mean a ringbearer..?
@xtreme_d2
@xtreme_d2 10 ай бұрын
gonna be the soundtrack to my back workout, thank u aegis
@Bakedbeans87
@Bakedbeans87 10 ай бұрын
I haven’t taken off my dead weight since light fall dropped
@paul2725
@paul2725 10 ай бұрын
opening yt seeing a 45min aegis vid and knowing the day is safed 🙌
@Gage-tp9ix
@Gage-tp9ix 10 ай бұрын
Prodigal Return would be amazing if voltshot applied jolt to everything the voltshot chained to, but you often end up 1 shotting whatever you shoot so you can't abuse the jolt bursts like you can with path of least resistance. Prodigal with voltshot is a lot of fun in content where the jolt surges actually kill things, regular difficulty raids, standard strikes, etc.
@imwyll1647
@imwyll1647 10 ай бұрын
Doing the Lords work but turns out you are the Lord.
@slime_ism
@slime_ism 10 ай бұрын
The demo/osmo SUCC was so good for lost sector burns before they added overcharge weapons for every single anti-champ mod.
@sureoutlaw822
@sureoutlaw822 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the vault cleaning guide lol
@elliekerstiens1916
@elliekerstiens1916 8 ай бұрын
Nezarec whisper belongs up with the other glaives in b. Great option on arc
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 7 ай бұрын
Glaives are being reevaluated this season :P
@Pharthrax
@Pharthrax 10 ай бұрын
Just as a reminder, Silicon Neuroma is Agg Frame. It’s still a non-starter because Succession is infinitely better in every way, it’s only downside not having Adept Big Ones, but I just thought I’d mention that.
@ColorDragon
@ColorDragon 10 ай бұрын
What would be you recommend for a boss damage special in the primary and energy slot?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Two pellets or Izi + GL
@gibbedhead
@gibbedhead 10 ай бұрын
I rate this D2 channel "S+ Tier"
@bung_us7207
@bung_us7207 10 ай бұрын
all of these videos are cracking down on my load out 😭 you leave my likely suspect ALONE
@Eztra326
@Eztra326 10 ай бұрын
I can understand Iterative Loop not being in A but it 100% deserves B-Tier. Being able to put voltshot on any target that doesn't die the the initial burst is a nice add-on when not on an Arc Subclass and Nano Rockets does help dps a fair amount. Just because Voltshot on fusions got gutted doesn't mean the whole thing is garbage
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Redoing fusion list :)
@Eztra326
@Eztra326 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic Looking forward to it
@ElMigol_
@ElMigol_ 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this, I know it's a lot of work but it's al worth it at the end. Also just wanna say that a friend of mine didn't believed me that wilderflight is used for dps and that the moon shotgun is a good one-two punch shotgun, now I can shut his mouth lmao.
@masonhart4458
@masonhart4458 10 ай бұрын
WE'VE BEEN BLESSED! 🙏
@AstonCulf
@AstonCulf 10 ай бұрын
Watch on 0.75x speed if you don't want him to sound like he's on cocaine
@Deschained19
@Deschained19 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, anything in C and D I feel frees up those weapons to be crafted/kept with more fun/experimental roles.
@soraneptune4178
@soraneptune4178 10 ай бұрын
This is going to be a bit off topic for the video but I have recently been really redoing the dps maths on lament and stumbled across a combo that I really haven't seen anyone else talk about. Which is the 2x1x0, this does superior dps and total dmg compared to the more common 3x1x2, 2x1x1 and 2x1x2 combos. I would love a video going over lament again, as I don't think this is a commonly known combo (in fact I am not even sure this was a possible combo before the sword changes). The combo is literally just (start with 3x1) then looping 2x1x0 with 3 lucent blades. There is 0 manual delaying and is an auto times combo and I really do think it is the most optimal lament combo. (though lament probably isn't the best sword even with this new combo.)
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
The period you have to wait to do 2L you may as well fill with a regular light
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
just FYI, Lament was special-cased and left unchanged by the sword guard rework
@scubasteve8859
@scubasteve8859 10 ай бұрын
Honestly you should’ve done just the s tiers and like best in slot for each element
@koraysahin8778
@koraysahin8778 10 ай бұрын
rank all your rankings next pls
@yurpcrusher123
@yurpcrusher123 10 ай бұрын
Bro. Thank u. Cant wait to go home ans clean my vault
@GMurph2336
@GMurph2336 10 ай бұрын
Another S tier Aegis vid
@GrandmaDestiny
@GrandmaDestiny 10 ай бұрын
With the proposed buff to snipers, 15%, does this mean snipers jump over many other weapon types?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Nah
@Cristian_ss
@Cristian_ss 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate all the work you put in Aegis. Nice video!
@Deschained19
@Deschained19 10 ай бұрын
Could we get a “so you don’t have a bait and switch weapon” video? Lol
@devincuthbertson155
@devincuthbertson155 10 ай бұрын
Might it be possible to do a boss dps tier list for specials? Glaives, adaptive snipers, precision shotties, etc wouldn't even need to be considered. Stuff like that could automatically be eliminated because why talk about something for boss dps that would never be considered? Easily half of the weapons on this list wouldn't need to be tiered at all. Just the meat and bones of damage. I guess the idea would be someone could easily look to see what is viable for boss damage from a quick look. Real simple like and unconfusing. I understand that weapon A is good for general use but not really a dps choice. That kind of mentality is what I mean but no matter what the case, your content is fantastic for any level of guardian and I appreciate all that you do 👍
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
I have an Equipment tab in my DPS spreadsheet that is basically this
@devincuthbertson155
@devincuthbertson155 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic that's fair, I do reference this routinely. My biggest problem with that spreadsheet is only having access to half of those weapons and looking for alternatives can get confusing. Without remorse being one where I've been running presage numerous times since it's release but still not being close to crafting it because there's so many weapons in presages loot pool. Riiswalker has been annoying and sojourners.... I mostly did dares last week and never got an optimal roll. The week prior for tumulus was pure agony, I only saw 2. I'm talking a ton of dares too ... and yes I understand bad luck is a thing but it's truly been a struggle. A few dozen focused empty vessels and not one truly viable. Stuff like this is making me look for alternatives and that's where I'm at. That's why a dps tier list sounded good to me. Funny enough I got a god roll dead weight first engram focus lol. I played D1, started D2 and quit. When the game was free I picked it up again so I'm still playing catch-up a lot. I know not everyone is there but some weapons are such a pain. Again thank you for the response and imma keep referencing that spreadsheet for dear life lol 😂
@daniel-lm8gr
@daniel-lm8gr 10 ай бұрын
i hope you do this with heavy weapons aswell
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Wait about 10 minutes
@VespertineGG
@VespertineGG 10 ай бұрын
Cataphract + Nox lowkey cooks
@WGG-01
@WGG-01 10 ай бұрын
I think supremacy should only be s tier just because kinetic slot options for special weapons are abysmal, it has enhanced kinetic tremors which is arguably the best perk on a sniper in terms of damage and versatility and ease of use, is a rapid fire frame, lead from gold for essentially infinite ammo, as well as the benefit of extra damage for being a kinetic weapon. I'd say riptide was S before the chill clip nerf but now chill clip is essentially a useless perk on everything except riptide. spike/disorienting grenades wilderflight with autoloading frenzy should also be S tier as if it is a blinding gl it still does normal if not higher gl damage on direct impact so you have no blinding nade downside or with spike nades it just is just a monster.
@x7eroXx
@x7eroXx 10 ай бұрын
Primaries next? Great work as always
@1votdopeningfan138
@1votdopeningfan138 10 ай бұрын
defeats the point, all primaries will stop around low a tier or so. they arent very useful
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Most likely not
@bmoney20608
@bmoney20608 8 ай бұрын
My opinion has arrived
@Wondle8
@Wondle8 10 ай бұрын
Cartesian is so good
@scalarmotion
@scalarmotion 10 ай бұрын
Are you planning to cover Exotic weapons at some point? I know most of them aren't really viable, so maybe you could rank only the ones that have some use and just dump the rest in D with no explanation.
@TheSilviu8x
@TheSilviu8x 10 ай бұрын
I have the Militia gl, with ambitious assassin, frensie and field tested. Blast radius as the weapon mod. Kinda stupid powerful to clear ads and not only!
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
Someday, when you get a crafted Forbearance, you are gonna fall in love with that thing. I can tell :)
@darky1374
@darky1374 10 ай бұрын
y not use salvager salvo? it does the same thing but better and is u can get it easily
@darky1374
@darky1374 10 ай бұрын
id say salvo does what ur doin rn but better and its easier to get then militia
@garbageman4709
@garbageman4709 10 ай бұрын
Heritage S tier by far
@stealthmovements8569
@stealthmovements8569 10 ай бұрын
Mmmmm Aegis data 🍽
@lucaricci1987
@lucaricci1987 10 ай бұрын
@TheAegisRelic what legendary special weapon is the closest in dps to merciless?
@max73916
@max73916 10 ай бұрын
a 5/5 nox perennial
@lucaricci1987
@lucaricci1987 10 ай бұрын
@@max73916 what role is 5/5?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
There isn't anything close but if you had to pick something it'd be a rapid fire shotgun
@CharlesSpadina3030
@CharlesSpadina3030 10 ай бұрын
Hollowed Denial with LFG/Repulsor on Void Warlock or Gyrfalcon’s Hunter is very sexy, those use cases alone should put it in at least B
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Too niche
@nathanflinchum1153
@nathanflinchum1153 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d argue it’s not niche at all, extremely good ammo econ and strong ad-clear. It’s no forbearance ofc but it definitely has a place
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
If I'm picking a trace for general gameplay it is definitely not Hollow first
@nathanflinchum1153
@nathanflinchum1153 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic it sounds to me like if you wanna take a more meta option you’re just taking the path to least resistance (haha get it cuz like…. Nevermind…)
@alcapone117
@alcapone117 10 ай бұрын
Honestly the only problem I have with this list is succession, probably just my bias but I think it deserves mid to high A tier
@brandonn9698
@brandonn9698 10 ай бұрын
Until it’s return is definitely right next to dead weight in A tier
@jeremyhays9433
@jeremyhays9433 10 ай бұрын
Now that you have all these spreadsheets put together. Could you make one with all the important ones the perks you choose and why.
@jeremyhays9433
@jeremyhays9433 10 ай бұрын
Like maybe a synergies video like these three guns accomplish this. And don't waste your time on DT or CT cuz no one's going to use those thank you for your time
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Gonna do a perk tier list
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO 6 ай бұрын
A kinetic/primary is more important that a secondary/Special weapon being decent because of the Zpecial slot being more powerful. Its why clowns use Primary fusion rifles. It's also why an exotic must be decent because you only get one weapon slot
@user-dd9ji5ky5k
@user-dd9ji5ky5k 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand why Iterative Loop is in D tier....it's not that bad in my idea
@josh100150
@josh100150 7 ай бұрын
So whats the name of the unnamed shoot to loot trace rifle?
@thesoup4174
@thesoup4174 10 ай бұрын
Wait why are rapid fire shotguns so high? I thought pellet swapping consisted of lightweights for damage rotations, and aggressives for support rotation?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Rapids are good for boss DPS, great for roam, and excellent for major burst
@achryllic2607
@achryllic2607 10 ай бұрын
another vid to listen to at work lesssgoooo (aegis is still a cutie)
@nelsonomarvalencia-garcia3403
@nelsonomarvalencia-garcia3403 10 ай бұрын
Why do you value shoot to loot so highly?
@LyuSapphire
@LyuSapphire 10 ай бұрын
So...I know you put some weapons high up for utility for speedrunning and killing ads quickly and all but...If you need someone on tractor cannon, what would you recommend is the best special DPS you can bring to the table, and with what roll? I've still been rocking a old fusion rifle roll that used to be pretty good at the time, but I never stopped to think about updating it to something different and more recent, so I wanted to see what you recommend the most.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Two pellet shotguns and something like Rain of Fire or The Dragon's Shadow
@pjusttheletterpreally.noth2995
@pjusttheletterpreally.noth2995 10 ай бұрын
Why is Deliverance in D tier?
@malodtre1255
@malodtre1255 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I was just wondering in which situation do you use trench shotguns for dps, cz personaly I dont, but I feel like I'm missing something so I just wanted to know where it would be great for me to try them. Btw another great video thx for the content, that's very interesting ans even though I feel like I know a lot about the game you still learn me things that I didn't know about si thanks a lot for this❤
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Pretty rare, basically when you can't swap
@BeeBeeBeeLol
@BeeBeeBeeLol 10 ай бұрын
Iterative Loop and Heritage definitely should be higher haha, otherwise I agree with most of this
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
I'm gonna redo this better next season nw
@JustAJauneArc
@JustAJauneArc 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, sniper rifles in PvE could be INFINITELY better if, for the love of God, the extra damage actually went through a shield-break directly into their HP if they land a precision hit. If it makes them busted, who cares, lmao. People like sniper rifles, let them be good.
@LordTonzilla
@LordTonzilla 10 ай бұрын
How TF is Pardon Our Dust a tier lower than Ignition Code? It has Auto Loading and Ignition Code doesn't
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Ignition has Slideshot
@topherthegopher3115
@topherthegopher3115 10 ай бұрын
I would like to know where Braytech Osprey is on the DPS list, just because it has envious and bipod, which Aegis did say bipod isn’t far behind from BnS, love to see where it stands
@darky1374
@darky1374 10 ай бұрын
bipod itself is fine, what isnt fine is the archetype. braytech is high impact which deal 15% less dmg than the current meta wpn (apex) or even hothead
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
It's a high-impact so it's not worth using (-10% against adap/agg)
@jedihotdog9890
@jedihotdog9890 10 ай бұрын
Prodigal would be good if it could roll demo volt, but now it's just worse than salvage
@joeybrez1
@joeybrez1 10 ай бұрын
I got to drop a Envious Assassin+Controled burst Charge time MW Nox Perennial, I'm a fusion enyojer 😎
@life-destiny1196
@life-destiny1196 10 ай бұрын
What's it like having world first on that?
@harrygreenaway
@harrygreenaway 10 ай бұрын
Can someone elaborate on why GL's and trace rifles tend so high in this list? I've never used a trace rifle (excep maybe agres or the navigator) in high end content.
@cyclo_17
@cyclo_17 10 ай бұрын
12:11 Nox Perennial certainly isn't underrated just isn't dropping for people(I havent seen one nor heliocentric since the season dropped)
@DerpsterIV
@DerpsterIV 10 ай бұрын
I got one (1) drop of the pulse rifle. No fusions
@cyclo_17
@cyclo_17 10 ай бұрын
@@DerpsterIV I’ve been getting more last season drips this season than current season drops
@SlongestKongest
@SlongestKongest 10 ай бұрын
Curious why traces are rated so much higher then snipers. They have pretty close dmg to primaries but have very limted ammo and remove ur abilty to run a second special weapon. Running 2 speicals descrses ur ammo drops by like 3x or somthing.(80ish special kills for 1 brick) while you only need like 20 for primaries. Imo traces are usless and are hurtful to someone's loadout since it kills heavy drops and has poor ammo Imo all traces belong d or c at most The only exception is if ur running ceno but thats not the weapon thats an exotic
@1votdopeningfan138
@1votdopeningfan138 10 ай бұрын
they enable double special more than you think. for master and gm level stuff with high amounts of champion spam, traces are essential in the cenotaph heavy spam strategies which means they are high tier just because of that. in low mans and speedruns, trace rifles are great in situations where there are limited adds so that waveframes are overkill and might even work less efficiently but they still outperform all legendary primaries. in that situation you run a trace and something for minibosses like a heritage or whatever. ammo is not a big problem in speedruns (atleast not in a conventional way) because everything gets onephased. for lowmans, you might get longer encounters but the willingness of people to minmax means they will run aeons and cenotaph to optimize ammo economy there aswell. since double special is viable still, just more workintensive, traces do well rn.
@SlongestKongest
@SlongestKongest 10 ай бұрын
@@1votdopeningfan138 double special is viable. But it something like a master raid or gm most players aren't always running a heavy exotic which kills dounel special. Wit a primary you are making 4x heavy and way more special Aswell. My point is the trade off of a trace that does slightly more dmg then a primary isn't worth the trade off of having to use ur exotic to make heavy instead of something else. Imo
@jollax
@jollax 10 ай бұрын
Aegis got tired of speedrunning destiny and started speedrunning tierlists instead
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 10 ай бұрын
Gotta do something while my teammates are away lol
@flopre9213
@flopre9213 10 ай бұрын
Loop enjoyers hate him: find out why
@danilakruglov57
@danilakruglov57 10 ай бұрын
Ranking every sunset weapon in endgame :)
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