6 years later: "just put a Micro switch trigger in it." love coming back to these. Helped me tech on my markers since I started playing.

I finally completed my build yesterday. 13:1 SHS gears, shs high torque 16tpa, btc chimera mk2, m110 spring, and then everything else is lonex. Around 30ish rps at 380fps with a .2, Trigger response is ridiculous, literally a polarstar or very very close to it. Using a 11.1v 4500mah 30c

You seem like the nicest tech in airsoft lol Good video man, keep up the good work

Interesting video. Thanks for the info. I recently built my Lonex gun gearbox again using an ASCU2 trigger unit/FET and because I use the Lonex A1 motor, I got to delete the anti-reversal latch. The gearbox sounds so much better now! Love it. I also combined a SPEED trigger lever with the ASCU2 FET, low resistance wiring and a set of 16:1 gears and the gun it so fun to shoot now! Yeah I could trade out some of the parts and increase the trigger response a bit, but I'm done spending money on that gun and honestly, its a lot of fun to shoot! I think the biggest factor in gaining trigger response is the MOSFET you use. Not all FETs are the same. The FETs that also include the micro-switches that take the place of the horrid, old school trigger contacts are the best. The old, arching trigger contacts are the worst part of any AEG. They always fail. And if you play a lot of MILSIM type games like I do where full-auto is only for SAWs, then having a micro-switch trigger system will save you a lot of pain and broken guns. I have two guns now with the micro-switch systems. Both are dreams to shoot.

Great vid. Confirms my theories and scribblings. Buying some bits from AirLab in the UK next week. Thanks chief

Great video and yes there is a difference in trigger response with different battery voltage. I have a 13:1 shs gears and shs ht motor with m120 with btc and its the bomb. Normally run a 7.4v and for more ROF 11.1v. Keep the good videos rolling. . Thanks for them.

When you reference another one of your videos, put a pop up link for it in the corner or in the description. Also, products you recommend for certain builds, put them in the description, makes it easier for us. You’re very knowledgeable and I am learning so much, thank you and keep it up! 🙏🏼

That suppressor sounds just tickles my ear. :)

thanks for these videos, ill be doing a trigger response build in my Cyma AK-105. at around 350, gonna go with a Gate titan.

How to trigger response Step 1: Install a Gate Titan Step 2: Done

My main used to be a valken pdw allow. First airsoft gun ever. Ran 11.1 in it for 3 months cuz they said I could. It broke one day at the field, didn't touch it for MONTHS. Eventually decided I'm gonna fix my gun since I couldn't afford a new one at that time. And your videos basically got me where I'm at almost a year later. Taking it apart I saw the bearing on the bevel was missing balls and the piston head, air nozzle and tappet plate were SHATTERED. 18/1, delayed chip, bushings, reshimmed, regreased, 16awg rewire with a gate nanohard mosfet, micro switch, new piston head and new air nozzle. On a 7.4 (will never run a 11.1 again) I achieve 16 rps at 384-389fps. And I mean if I shoot thru my chrono 30 times the only two number that show up are 384 and 389. It just jumps back and forth between those two numbers and it blows my mind! My indoor spring was 357.5 LITTERALY 15 shots in a row. No deviations. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE!!!! Also it was a random kwa motor I pulled from a broken gun and it turns out they run 45-60 dollars and it's a high torque! Makes sense. I have like damn near the same set up in my indoor gun, weaker spring but has the ics 3000 and it only gets 13rps.

What if you used a high rpm motor like a 16 - 22 tpa motor with precocking? Would it take a noticeable amount of time for the motor to spin up if it's already precocked? Seems like you could get a higher rps with the same gears as long as you're using precocking and a relatively lower tpa motor

hella nice. can u make a vid on ur battery set up? exactly how i wanna do mine

Thanks for the info, my build for trigger response and an RPS below 30 is similar to yours, a frankentorque motor, 12 or 13:1 gears, and an 11.1v lipo

I corrected the AOE on my ICS PAR MK3 after installing a new piston,nozzle and cylinder.removing one tooth from the piston to correct the AOE. however some times i notes that my fps is around 150 fps. And other times its 300 as it should be consider I'm using .30g BBs. I never seen this in any other gun i have. What could be doing this ?

Why did you not short stroke 3-4 teeth with an m140 ? Would you not get much faster cycle with similar fps

Hey, how do you feel about the BTC spectres precocking feature? I recently got one, i aswell really love trigger response, but i heard the precocking feature puts more stress on the parts.

great video! iv'e been in the market for teching on my G&P for a balanced build. Do you think the G&P M120 high speed motor would cut it in a build similar to this (with the low ratio gears) ? Cheers !

Good day, spec'd my build with your recommendations on this video. 13:1 supershooters, lonex supreme, just missing the mosfet unit. What was it again? Do you have a video for it? TIA and a happy new year too. Never mind found it :)

This is pretty helpful. Thanks man.

😂😂😂 you rocked back like there was recoil.

TRIGGERED

Do you find that precocking wears your parts faster or destroys the internals?

I think the balanced build is like a 40+ rps and 360+ fps?

0:33 Nice job sanding the grip bro. Ive done that as well

I've got a build that I'm pretty happy with, and it is not an angled build at all, just a straight up high performance build that gives me lightning response (faster than 2012 Systemas) on a 2mm trigger pull (it's like clicking a mouse). 38 bps RoF at 440 FPS on an 11.1V, 3000mAh, 40C LiPo battery. It's essentially this: Chimera FET 12:1 Gear Ratio (SHS) Dream Army Ultra Torque motor Shimmed trigger (the Chimera FET uses a micro switch button) 11.1V, 40C LiPo Overall reinforced components, hours of shimming and a very, very, very airtight cylinder/piston/nozzle, cylinder ported to the barrel volume + 25%. Rifle itself is a VFC 416, not that it matters... I use it exclusively for semi-auto shooting since I hate players who hose away bbs and end up hitting someone 50 times in the face, but the RoF is still there for punishment ;)

hey bud awesome video. just quick question does your motor get really hot. just wondering if they are normal. Some people say check my shiming. I have a high torque motor, 18:1 and I use a binary trigger. just wondering if you've experience that before.

What mosfet would you recommend if my budget is low? (For trigger response and preventing damage)

This is the most polarstar-Esque aeg I've ever seen and heard.

Take a shot every time he says trigger response X'D But in all seriousness, great video man, love your build!

A completed dsg build=instant trigger response

1. Get that Mini Tamiya out 2. Install Dean-T 3. Install GATE TITAN/ASTER 4. Shim your gearbox 5. Use 11,1 V Lipo 6. ??? 7. Profit

Can you give me a good list of internals for a ver 2. Gear box? I have a g&g ETU and mosfet. My srs has great response time but i have 2 of those rifles and ones alittle worn out. Ive never seen an AEG sound like that. awesome vids man! subbed for sure.

I'm looking for high trigger response for a semi auto dmr (Scar SSR to be exact). It will be pulling around an m130 spring. and i will be using a Nukefet complete for a mosfet. How should I go about executing this build?

do you know of any cheaper programable mosfet's that offer the main two of cycle completion to avoid half cycling the cylinder and lipo cut off? anything under 100?

Would a kwa high torque motor work for the first setup you mentioned?

I would love to build something with a good trigger response, about 350fps and 20-25 RPS on a 9.6Nimh, do you think this is possible? The trigger response is nice in combination with a very snappy trigger.

Am I right in saying that I would be fine with a ZCI high torque over an SHS one? some say its the same basically

Im a huge gun/airsoft fan. This is very good info

Loved your video man, it was pretty informative! I do have a few questions though. What would the torquiest stock (non-frankentorque) motor you would reccomend TPA wise that could handle a Prometheus M170 spring with relative ease? I'm currently working on a dmr build and want to make sure I get a motor that is strong enough, keep in mind the motor will be paired with either 100:200 or 100:300 ratio torque gears and a high discharge 11.1 lipo. Also, is there any way you would possibly be willing to make and sell a short type 32 TPA Frankentorque motor for the right price? I appreciate the help and hope you will see this comment.

What would you recommend for good response with 400+ FPS and off the shelf parts. (IE don’t want to build a motor)

with 18:1 ssg gears, would a tienly 40k motor or a zci high torque work better for trigger response?

I have a krytac crb and I want to increase the trigger response but I know the internals in the krytac are amazing and I don't know what I should replace or do. Please help

With the zci motor, and the 12:1 gears, how heavy of a spring can I run?

Trigger response is vastly under-rated by the air soft world. We call this lock time in tactical bolt action rifles...and the best rifles now have lock times of around 1 millisecond....Compare that the time it takes for the mechanicals to active and send the bb is a stock air soft rifle! What 1/2 second? lol This is why so many airsoft snipers use bolt (spring) actions. Yes they are a little more accurate, but more important is being able to send the BB at the exact microsecond the sight crosses the target. Any improvement here is welcome! The quality and the consistency of the trigger break are still none existent in air soft...A clean and consistent break is fundamental to marksmanship in that is creates solid and repeatable muscle memory. Muscle memory is what allows us to quickly and accurately engage a target without thought. Any improvement here creates a more consistent, more accurate, rifleman....Gun be damned, the nut behind the trigger is always the decisive element....Food for thought!

What abou x-asr mosfet in Specna Edge? Is it good? It it too good for it? Or need some triger things?

May you do a video on how to prevent much motor heat, my gearbox is hitting around 30 rps and gets very hot.

I’m gonna put some shs 12:1 gears and a high torque motor in my rpk to get a high rps. I do t want to do too much tho, so I’m gonna leave cylinder (I’ve already tested air seal and it’s pretty good), spring, and HopUp alone. It’s gonna be sweet

Technically, couldn't you get a m170 or m190 and SS the piston/sector gear for a faster trigger response? Oh wait derp I forgot about your spectre fet. But without a precocking mosfet would that theoretically me faster?

I need some feed back on my gun because when I lightly pull the triger it doesn't work but when I pull the triger really hard it works. can someone tell me the problem with my gun

please make a parts list

Where did you get the 10:1 gearset? I have found dual sector gear gearsets that are close, but not any regular ones. Also, are 12:1 gears close enough, even with a slower motor?

Great work but.. my thing is how does a mag feed that fast I have problems with feeding on not so high speed. Brand new mags of different types and brand new guns.

would shs ht with 13:1 and 11.1v battery pull m170? aiming for 550fps

yea i love when my trigger responds to my finger when i pull it back

how much tpa does an big dragon m160 motor has?

I get about the same trigger response with an 11.1 lipo, without having done any mods on my replica. Cost a little more though lol

@TheAirsoftTech, if you were to build a semi-only CQB build, would you prefer DSG or short-stroking? Which one is best for semi-only trigger response and which one is better for RPS?

I run 12:1 shs gears with an asg boost 40k and a GATE Aster and I get some great trigger response with that setup

how do you make your gun sound like a Polarstar??

dumb question but how can i know how powerful battery my gun can run

I wish you listed the parts in the description

I forgot to ask what is the name of your intro song it's very catchy great pick on it

How did you get into teching?

The content starts at 9:22. Chap, you don't need to tell us the same boring background story over and over and over and over again.

this is the airsoft tech that should of went viral

I'm running shs 12:1 gears, high torque motor, swiss cheese piston, clean shim job and a 11.1 20c battery. It shoots around 27rps, 420 fps and trigger response is crazy fast, one step below a p* imo. Idk how long it's going to last as I play semi only but I'll be running this set up for awhile haha. Trigger contacts will probably be the first to go but whatevs. When that happens, I'll upgrade the wires and put in a mosfet

That 14.8 sounds like a monster

Nice! Would a g&p gearbox combined with a shs high speed(swiss cheesed) piston,super shooter 13:1 high speed gears, lonex titan speed&torque motor, nukefet complete mosfet and 11.1 lipos yield a snappy trigger response and a pretty good rof? I play with lots of p*s that shoot very fast.

Very good video by the way!!!

But doesn’t dsg can damage your gear box?

rof doesnt matter to meet at all really, 20 is more than enough, as it saves ammo, and semi is just fine. i build my guns with range and accuarcy, i refuse to use a gun before i stick in an r hop

My favorite trigger response build is 14:1 DSG paired with a spectre fet so I can lower the ROF to avout 26rps :D

Your assumption that higher TPA motors yield proportionally faster trigger response is false. There is a point that more torque is slower on semi. If you do some research on Airsoft Mechanics, youd find that the fastest trigger response is achieved when your gun almost double shoots (precocks after one shot). If you keep increaseing the torque, you will get less and less overspin becuase the motor RPM is slowing down. I built a 32 tpa motor with neodymium magnets and it was SLOW, i would need a DSG to get the same trigger response i have now. I shot my AEG along side your 7.4, 11.1 and 14.8v and my trigger response with a 7.4 was about the same maybe a bit faster, my 11.1 was faster, and when you used the 14.8v it was exactly what mine was with an 11.v 50c 3.3 Amp. Build list: shs 15t m110 spring 18.72 to 1 gears ZCI 22 tpa (actually 19 tpa) apex python mosfet (16 gauge wire) I almost get double shots on semi with an 11.1 (never do though), so it precocks at least halfway with an 11.1), can't get much faster than that. I spent $30 for the ZCI hightorque, and 34 for the apex python, maybe $20 for the 11.1, and tuned everything perfectly. rate of fire with 11.1 is 25 rps.

what suppressor is that? It sounds really nice.

This eletrônic contacts fits on g&g m4?

hey I have a question I'm going to be getting the g&g top tech tr4.mod blow back gun I want to upgrade the motor to a higher torque and high rpm one so I can use a higher battery volts like 11.1 would I have to change anything else like gears anything like that I heard some one say for the gun I'm getting not to go higher than 9.6 or 9.1 basically the battery they recommend not sure volts off the top of my head but my feld I play at can't go higher than 400 fps I'm trying to get the gun to shoot as close to 400 as possible it's 380- 400 is what it's capable of most of the time it's shooting around 380-375 on videos I've seen of it but I want to get as close to 400 with a good triger response as well as a longer lasting more powerful battery and motor so I can have a faster snap and a better feel to the blow back. so motor and battery is what I will be doing will that help me achieve what I'm trying to do and sorry for the long book I'm new to this and I'm only learning from what I'm watching on KZfaq and I don't know anybody that plays Airsoft so I'm just trying to ask certain people I come around videos that I think know what they're doing. to help me do what I'm trying to do that's best for my gun thanks I appreciate it.

do you think a g&p m180 satan motor or a tienly gt45000 motor will give the same trigger response with a siegetek 10:1 gearset???

Hey bro I know I’m late, but by low rof you mean in Full auto?

That is exactly what i am going after in my Custom M4! Question, what motor, gear set, and spring do you run in your gun? P.S. You make great vids and i have learned alot from them! Keep up the great work! :)

Mine has about 400 in internals its got almost everything new and upgraded internally. It is for trigger response 18:1 gears asg 22k infinity motor m120 spring a speed trigger gate aster 2 mosfet should hopefully get a really good trigger response

Hey I want to get into teching what would be a good way to start.

How do u get your gun to sound soo satisfying?

so basically you're saying I can send in my kwa to you and you'll build it internally and I'll pay for everything?

Where did you get a 32tpa motor?

That’s crazy, your AEG has that HPA pop haha

post the notes as you talk please? awesome info! hard to keep up so post some notes and numbers for us to look at while you talk? thanks man!

Dam!! aeg's can get technical! that's one of the things about stock aeg's that trigger response. my ics m4 is so slow compared to my ghk m4 gbbr. I know we should not compare the two but firing a gas rifle feels much better than electric gun. nice video dude.

I have a Sailent Arms Gry and i want better trigger response what do i need because i know the internals are good

Hey what silencer is that and did u put foam in it

Hi AirsoftTech - I have the Krytac CRB but have been a little disappointed with its performance, a low 320 fps even with m120 spring, not the best trigger response and the range is pretty poor, do you have any suggestions for improvements? I saw you had a Krytac video so would like to see your take on it. Thanks :D !

What are u using to make your gun have that pop

@TheAirsoftTech, how can we contact you?

Awesome vid!

Thinking of doing a trigger response build, sense I already have a microswitch, will a mosfet improve trigger response at all?

What motor would you compare to the one in this build?

what gearbox shell are you using?

Bru how do yuh make the aeg have that soft pop sound

I don't think you really need a 32 tpa motor for something like this. I got a gun with just as good trigger response as your gun (but not with precocking) with 12:1 shs gears and a Matrix Godzilla 5000 motor.

I get its a video about trigger response, but you said it in every other sentence. other than that, very informative.