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Sect in Astrology: Day vs. Night Birth Charts

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The Astrology Podcast

The Astrology Podcast

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@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:26 Day and night 00:05:09 Sect definition 00:06:45 Diurnal and nocturnal teams 00:07:57 Sect as foundational concept 00:09:43 Domicile scheme 00:12:37 Aspects 00:14:20 Exalations 00:15:05 Exaltations, sect, and aspects 00:16:59 Planetary joys 00:22:58 Triplicity rulers 00:24:14 Lot of Fortune 00:25:56 Master of the Nativity 00:28:24 Annual profections and sect 00:30:24 Important and pervasive concept 00:33:33 How to tell if chart is day or not 00:41:02 Twilight 00:42:59 George Lucas' chart 00:46:32 Barack Obama's chart 00:48:35 Using sect in practice 00:50:05 Benefics and malefics 00:53:43 Sect alters the mood of the planets 00:57:25 Most positive and negative planet 01:02:49 House placement of positive and negative planets 01:19:12 Example night chart 01:29:36 Ernest Hemingway's chart 01:33:02 Example day chart 01:36:04 Johnny Depp's chart 01:39:40 Lisa Marie Presley's chart 01:42:34 Maurizio Gucci's chart 01:44:11 Elliott Smith's chart 01:46:55 Britney Spears' chart 01:52:30 Planets ruling the ascendant 01:55:24 Alan White's chart 01:59:54 Ted Kennedy's chart 02:04:08 Michael J. Fox's chart 02:10:00 Benefic and malefic in same sign 02:10:41 Kurb Cobain's chart 02:16:00 Christopher Reeve's chart 02:19:25 Philippe Pozzo Di Borgo's chart 02:24:07 Mitigating factors 02:27:28 Rejoicing conditions 02:33:24 Aretha Franklin's chart 02:39:54 Chart of a doctor 02:41:55 Other ways sect is useful 02:51:27 Concluding remarks
@PageTurnersWithKatja
@PageTurnersWithKatja 2 жыл бұрын
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@NinaHProductions1
@NinaHProductions1 2 жыл бұрын
Why are there no house lcoations in your chart?
@Hermesvenus09
@Hermesvenus09 3 жыл бұрын
Chris, this is an excellent lecture and helped me truly understand sect for the first time. It was long and worth every minute. Thank you so much! ✨
@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how sect works out in your chart in the comments section below!
@TeoDaoHK
@TeoDaoHK 3 жыл бұрын
How can we interpret Peregrine planets, can you do a video about it? Thank you.
@lisaparis684
@lisaparis684 3 жыл бұрын
My Scorpio Moon in the 12th has been terrorizing me my entire life. But it is "in hayz", so things work out in the end. 😊
@cataacevedo2645
@cataacevedo2645 3 жыл бұрын
Day chart, retro Jupi in the 2nd. I've never had a lot of money but I lose my jobs only when I have savings. Thanks Chris. I got your book from Chili.
@Natalia_Belenkaya
@Natalia_Belenkaya 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, in case of the oikodespotes being the ascendant ruler, and the chart being a night chart in general where both luminaries are weakened, does it still retain the sect benefic/malefic qualities?
@svemory
@svemory 3 жыл бұрын
I may be forever on the fence re: whole sign houses, though I certainly recognize the truth there. My ascendant is the 29th degree, and events/transits playing out in time absolutely configure more for quadrant houses... But one sect observation: Night Chart: I've got Moon in Pisces in 6th (quadrant) sextile Mars in Capricorn in 4th, which I can see helps the Moon... have had health issues for much of my life, yet also an inherent strength and -- absolute warrior thing going on that mitigates that... A resilience. BUT -- to argue FOR whole sign in terms of sect, for sure Saturn in whole-sign 4th (night chart) and definitely 4th house matters have been a focus for the most challenging stuff. Fascinating. THANK YOU so much for these; an invaluable service, so very appreciated. Truly.
@helenamaal
@helenamaal 3 жыл бұрын
You are a great teacher Chris, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. The doctrine of sect completely changed everything I thought I knew about astrology. Great presentation! I love your Hellenistic Astrology course. I've listened to your lectures over and over. I actually enjoy your in depth and lengthy lectures, must be a Scorpio thing :) To anyone thinking about it, don't hesitate and sign up for Chris' course. It's excellent.
@junemoon8675
@junemoon8675 3 жыл бұрын
A few slides that might help: 58:00 1:00:00 34:38 2:28:58 2:33:15
@HauntedCerebralAstrology
@HauntedCerebralAstrology 3 жыл бұрын
This is an extremely important Podcast, so fundamental and essential! Thank you, Chris, for sharing your wisdom with the astrological community so freely and openly. Your service is beyond appreciated! x HC
@danyshudler9090
@danyshudler9090 3 жыл бұрын
Still watching but really loved your advice for starting astrologers to go outside and observe the sunrise and sunset which is so important since traditionally astrology’s observational practice was a key to understanding the art and science of this beautiful subject and sadly got neglected over the past century with technological innovations.
@DebbieKittnerJohnson
@DebbieKittnerJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished listening to this lecture a second time. As a student of Acyuta-Bhava Das, I was prompted by him to do so and it was so worth it. Chris is an outstanding teacher.
@BigDaddyHugz47
@BigDaddyHugz47 Жыл бұрын
Adam and Chris are responsible for 90% of my Astro knowledge. May the Gods richly bless them for their amazing work
@lesliechapman1173
@lesliechapman1173 Жыл бұрын
This lecture was awesome. Full of great information. Thanks Chris.
@lindag3650
@lindag3650 8 ай бұрын
I know this may not be read by Chris, but I just ordered his book from EBay & it should arrive in a few days. I am so excited!!!
@fangsofmay
@fangsofmay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chris! The Alan White episode was great! He was definitely a character 💖. Just received your book. Can't wait to dive in! 💫
@blesseddanzy8552
@blesseddanzy8552 3 жыл бұрын
You know that was one of my fav episodes! Don’t you know he was a hoot to be around!
@fangsofmay
@fangsofmay 3 жыл бұрын
@@blesseddanzy8552 Awww I'm sure he was!
@carolynpena857
@carolynpena857 3 жыл бұрын
This was an immensely helpful episode, Chris. Watching this lecture gave so much more clarity and has helped me better understand how to read and interpret my birth chart. I look forward to the next video! Thank you!
@Natalia-hf3et
@Natalia-hf3et 3 жыл бұрын
I'm back again, Chris. Your podcasts are thoroughly informative and I love that this one is more than 3 hours. Taking the time to explain things in detail is allowing me to learn so much from you.
@jeniwood9927
@jeniwood9927 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes of yours is the one with Alan White. I thought he was funny 😄a good teacher and someone I would have loved to have had a lecture from
@ailishfarragher5994
@ailishfarragher5994 3 жыл бұрын
Mars in Scorpio in 1st in a night chart (shortly after I was born, my father was imprisoned for anti-State activities/4th House Aquarius) makes Saturn in Gemini in the 8th, opposing Sag Sun in 2nd, the out of Sect Malefic. My first Saturn return coincided with the death of my mother and, consequently, I inherited some money (2nd-8th). Venus in Scorpio in 1st in a night chart - I've had extremes of good and bad in romance (foreigners and men who live abroad). I have had luck - Jupiter in Capricorn in 3rd may be in its Fall but I won a scholarship (other people's money, Saturn ruling 3rd House Cap), through my high school, to college which changed my life - my sister also won the same scholarship #siblings :)
@Gleeb1776
@Gleeb1776 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, worth rewatching. Since you asked for personal experiences -- mine is a Night chart, retrograde Saturn in 1st degree of Capricorn, 6th house, trine Pluto in the 2nd: studious, nerdy youth, worked almost every day of my life, have taken on lots of responsibilities and debts, never a "party animal," will probably never "retire." Saturn is more maleficent than malefic, sometimes. Not that I cannot be lazy, too -- my Uranus in the Leonine 1st is in utter rebellion! Back to work now!
@jenbrown1078
@jenbrown1078 3 жыл бұрын
This was alllll kinds of awesome!! Glad I came across this gem. Thanks Chris!
@andreav2125
@andreav2125 5 ай бұрын
I've just started learning about sect and found this incredibly helpful! Thanks, Chris. I have the book on order, can't wait to dive into it.
@BecJo
@BecJo 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic episode Chris! I appreciate your comments how SECT compliments many of the modern techniques, especially with transits. Can totally relate. I have a day chart with Jupiter in the 12th so I eat Astrology for breakfast and with Mars in the 9th has caused a few hiccups when travelling overseas and also it took me forever to complete my BA in Psych. I am studying a post grad now and I get so easily distracted and very unproductive with this Mars retrograde! One awesome podcast uploaded by the Astrology Podcast and damn there goes another 3 hours! LOL ;-)
@brittanymcnair8238
@brittanymcnair8238 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered your book on line. About time!! Mooching on all your videos made me hungry for more. Thanks for all your time and energy educating and building the astrology community for free. 💜🙏🏾
@deadmeatdec2164
@deadmeatdec2164 3 жыл бұрын
Recently got into astrology. This group is my go to source for knowledge on this subject. Appreciate the care and knowledge imparted in these. Thank you three very much In regards to whether or not a chart is day or night when the sun is within a few degrees of ascendant would Jupiter and its placement not sway the chart one way or the other?
@livinginparallel
@livinginparallel Жыл бұрын
Was so hoping to read an answer😭
@SugasugaSnap
@SugasugaSnap 2 ай бұрын
Hi Chris, loving this lecture. thank you !
@80islandia
@80islandia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this clear, well-organized, detailed lecture on sect. The practice examples were extremely helpful for learning how to identify the most important elements of a day/night chart at a glance. I had a passing knowledge of sect before but had some of the common confusions you identified and clarified. I was born on a winter evening with the Sun hovering less than a degree above the Descendent, so I especially liked hearing your thoughts on the day/night chart "margins"... will now go back in time to review significant events and see whether Mars and Jupiter have indeed had the strongest malefic/benefic impact on my life. Appreciate all you do to help us, Chris :)
@sono869
@sono869 2 жыл бұрын
i just want to come on here and say thank you for sharing your knowledge in the way that you do. the way your podcast has changed my life, my choices, my career and my astrology can not be put into words!
@karenpertot5101
@karenpertot5101 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, thoroughly enjoyed your lecture. It is just what I needed to give me a lead back into your course after having a couple of months off from study due to moving.
@ilcapitanoalexandr8698
@ilcapitanoalexandr8698 2 жыл бұрын
With more and more time I appreciate your work even more, your work it's quality, simply terrific. Well structured, good information, straight forward. Your material presentation it's objective and that's much better because usually it isn't based on an opinion or feeling but simply a fact. Personally I'm not a person of "what you're feeling, what you believe" that's rubbish. You answer where does that Ideology comes from and why it is that way. Congrats Chris, you and Vic diCara are the people that I found reliable when it comes to quality and well structured information. If you got other people to look for that are reliable as well, please let me know. I support quality, so do I support you Chris. Regards
@masondenny9000
@masondenny9000 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up the decedent of Kurt. This is excellent review material of your book. It is clearing up so many of my questions. I just finished your book and I have been going back using the appendix to relearn material. You are giving away priceless info here in which showing your genuine character to help others at what ever cost. I am so grateful. Because of your podcast and book I have excelled my astrology in one year beyond anything I could imagine. I can’t wait to take your course. Night chart. Libra rising. Gratefull for my benefic - Exalted Venus is the in pisces(6 house of illness, injuries) saving me from a rupture in my aneurysm. Malefic retrograde Saturn(detriment) in Leo(11th house of friends, hope) exchanging with sun in Capricorn in copresense with mercury and exalted mars(4th house of parents, home). Not sure if there is mutual reception with Saturn and the sun because of aversion. Need to look more into the qualifications for mutual reception. I have had a rocky passive aggressive life with parents but things are getting better. Also have friends that are disrespectful but close like family. So cool and on point. I still want to try master of nativity starting from my nocturnal moon. And have so much to learn.
@jem2250
@jem2250 3 жыл бұрын
I have a day chart and even though Saturn is the lesser malefic, his condition is not as good as Mars, who is in Saturn's sign and exalted there. So I actually feel that Saturn is in some ways harder for me. However, goal setting has never been a problem for me and when I read charts for night sect folks they do agree that Saturn is more of a challenge for this reason alone - always changing the goal post etc.
@AlanaJ_888
@AlanaJ_888 8 ай бұрын
Your videos are so awesome! Can’t afford to go to an astrologer so I’m trying to teach myself, and thinking about it as a career. Thank you for posting these videos, they are so helpful! 🙏💚☮️✨
@Xhayl
@Xhayl 3 жыл бұрын
Chris, this was amazing! Thank you so much for the content
@andreealovinoficial
@andreealovinoficial 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Chris! Thank you for your free lesson. I'm from Romania. I have a question about exaltations. Have you ever researched hermetic astrology? My mentor in astrology, who is also a great astrology teacher and researcher, discovered hermetic astrology and it seems that hermetics had other ideas about exaltation. These are: Venus in Cancer in exaltation (not Pisces), Venus in Capricorn in fall (not Virgo), Jupiter in exaltation and domicile in Sagittarius (not Cancer), In fall and exile in Gemini (not Capricorn). I hope that my mentor will make the research public, it seems to me that the hermetic version makes a lot of sense. He spoke and demonstrated how this version would be the correct one, maybe he will do the demonstration also in english. About the Planetary Joys, for Mercury it's more simple to explain that in the first house he is in the the house of the head, as body part, so it's very logical for this planet to be happy. Mercury governs thinking and is happy in the head.
@kalinaperez8503
@kalinaperez8503 3 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion sect is one of the biggest losses of modern astrology. Is it just me or have you guys also noticed that for example Saturn Return tends to be harder for nicht charts?
@tricia007100
@tricia007100 8 ай бұрын
Night Chart. Venus in the 12th in Taurus. Saturn in the 2nd in Cancer and Phasis (16 degrees behind the sun). My most positive planet is inactive in the 12th house. My most negative planet is raging and incredibly strong in negative significations. Luckily, Saturn didn't come out from under the beams in the progressed chart until I was 34 so I literally did not feel Saturn energy in any way until my mid-30s. At 36, Saturn took over as triplicity lord of the sect light and because Saturn is so strong in negative significations, it has changed my life 180 degrees. From a comfortable life to poverty, homelessness and restrictions in every way...I have the incredibly bad fortune of having Saturn in the 2nd in nearly exact square with Pluto in the 5th. Would not wish this extreme placement on anyone...it is truly horrific. Yet, being a Gemini I have somehow adapted and found astrology to explain why my life went from comfortable to toilet bowl.
@thefashionskunk
@thefashionskunk 2 жыл бұрын
THIS was so informative. Thank you ,Chris ! I learned so much watching this lecture. 😊
@KaikalaMoon
@KaikalaMoon 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Chris. First though, I saw in recommendations; 3hrs and I was like 'great day', but man did I sit it out from the beginning. Started over after falling asleep on it last night. This was exciting (the joys), interesting (sects), and I learned so much in one podcast. Also like live format, open to questions. Thank you!
@rainydayinsomnia
@rainydayinsomnia 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the informative lecture! i've always had a pretty good time with mars transits without really knowing why since it's not particularly dignified in my chart, but now i know it's having a night chart that contributes this 😁
@sheilac.5935
@sheilac.5935 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris! This was incredibly educational and well presented.
@madeleinem.8313
@madeleinem.8313 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent astrology lesson! It answered so many questions I had about my chart... Thank you very much for your work! :)
@PendragonTarot
@PendragonTarot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up. My sun is at 19 Sag and ascendant is at 20 gemini so I felt this was helpful
@Leeyujhen6
@Leeyujhen6 3 жыл бұрын
You're damn right! Sect is really important to identify the strongest and the dangerous of the chart and to weigh the balance of the native life.
@AmiyaD1611
@AmiyaD1611 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Chris! This was very helpful. My Asc is 24 of Scorpio with my Sun in Scorpio at 23 degree just above my ascendant, making my chart a day chart. Even tough my natal mars is exalted in capricorn, last year when we had the long mars in aries period, with it‘s retrograde it completely crushed me. It was transiting my 6H and even though I have been struggling with anxiety for a few years this time it just blew it out of proportion and made it worse then it ever was in my life. I became very sick during this period and surprise surprise, when it exited out of aries, it was over almost like some sort of weird magic trick. It also made so much sense why I never had SUCH a hard time with Saturn transits. Like yes they are not the most pleasant ones, but at the end of the day I always loved Saturns tough love and always felt like I was protected through everything I was going through during Saturn transits until now. And Jupiter in 4 House yup makes total sense, I always appreciated my harmonious family life, and all the philosophies and ways I grew up. Also growing up and having a home in Switzerland is definitely a lucky place to live. Again thank you Chris, everything makes a lot more sense now! I can‘t believe sect is still not a big thing in modern astrology as it is such a important chart factor. During my Aquarius Jupiter Return this year I actually got into Ancient Astrology and is was the best thing that has happened so far in my Astrology Journey
@genericyoutubeaccount579
@genericyoutubeaccount579 2 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be cool if each planet including Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto was domicile over 2 signs with 1 masculine and 1 feminine and 1 diurnal and 1 nocturnal? Then there would be 18 signs of the zodiac of 20 degrees each. There would be 9 diurnal signs, 9 nocturnal signs, 9 masculine signs, and 9 feminine signs and 18 houses. Instead of four quadrants we would have six sextants. There would be 3 modalities (Cardinal, Fixed, Mutable) and 6 elements like Earth, Water, Air, Fire, Pressure, Volume based on the three dimensional phase diagram. That covers the three states of matter (solid, liquids, and gases) and the three ways that material can be convinced to change its state (heat, pressure, volume). Again, look at the three dimensional phase diagram. Water can become water vapor if the pressure is lowered enough. This occurs during cavitation or at high altitudes when the pressure of the atmosphere is at its lowest. Water can literally boil at room temperature. Additionally, ice can transition directly into water vapor at a high enough volume and low enough temperature and vice versa. Matter can change its phase while temperature and pressure are constant so long as volume is increasing. Again, look at the three dimensional phase diagram. The Egyptian bounds would have to be thrown out but those seem pretty random anyways.
@denzelpugh7187
@denzelpugh7187 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely appreciate this! Helped me understand how to interpret/understand my chart with the most pos and neg planet in the 4th house in a night chart...the spectrum helped me alot! Thanks Chris
@TheNasogastrictube
@TheNasogastrictube 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this, it is so fundamental it's amazing we are not normally taught this ! This blew my mind, shows what an elegant, symmetrical and fabulous art astrology is! I was glued to this, and said 'Wow' so many times! Am definitely going to buy your book! Wonderful exciting info, thank you so much for sharing, you rule!!
@maellesolaya2057
@maellesolaya2057 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, this is soooo insightful ! To your reflection about the Sun being a few degrees under the ascendant but still considered as a day chart because there is already daylight at that time : Maybe the orb changes according to where the person is born ? Because the closer we are to the equator, the faster day comes and goes. Just a though while listening to you. Thank you for this amazing work !
@10whitelilith10
@10whitelilith10 2 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for this free lesson. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge 🙏🏻✨💫
@CarpeDiemTravelerMel
@CarpeDiemTravelerMel 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely enjoyed and appreciate this lecture. It was very insightful and full of great information. Thank you so much!
@tiktik7608
@tiktik7608 2 жыл бұрын
As a newbie traditional asrologer thank you so much for the free lecture
@dawndeeearven1616
@dawndeeearven1616 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your advices thoughts and for the educational aspects 💓🌈🍀
@cristinib7458
@cristinib7458 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much for all that you share! You are a gift. I am learning so much from you!
@eagillum
@eagillum 3 жыл бұрын
I think this applies to how you read the D2 and D4 charts in vedic astrology. I could never figure out which chart I had, ie. if it was ruled by the sun or the moon. The D2 chart is your ability to meet your financial basics, and your D4 is your capacity to achieve wealth.
@WakingDreamCurrents
@WakingDreamCurrents 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Learning a lot about my Night chart Mars and Cancer stellium.
@alainasaur
@alainasaur 3 жыл бұрын
it also fascinates me that some say that the nature of the sextile is venusian (night) and the nature of the trine is jovial (day).
@alainasaur
@alainasaur 3 жыл бұрын
obviously both benefics would be associated with “positive” aspects, but i was just thinking in terms of day/night!
@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Good point! That comes from the domicile assignments in the Thema Mundi, so that is another important and interesting piece here.
@jalynluis6394
@jalynluis6394 3 жыл бұрын
Love your interpretations. You are an excellent instructor.
@VJ_7137
@VJ_7137 3 жыл бұрын
Great session....thank you 🙏 for clarifying the rejoicing conditions👍🙏 great examples 🎉
@princessedelarue1989
@princessedelarue1989 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode, thanks so much Chris :)
@felicehappy
@felicehappy 5 ай бұрын
Regarding the question about Michael J. Fox's Moon in Taurus ruling 6th house which would make you think he had great health but Saturn is squaring that beautiful Moon and is in its sign of detriment (Capricorn). Also to be noted his amazing Venus in Taurus in a night chart in the house of family conjuct his Moon - he has a very happy marriage and a wife he credits with helping him cope with his health issues.
@edwardharvey5839
@edwardharvey5839 Жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for doing this video. May God Bless you.
@Lieve_Saillart
@Lieve_Saillart 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, great podcast, thank you
@James_7y
@James_7y Ай бұрын
May joy shine upon your path.
@kayleighbonel4318
@kayleighbonel4318 Жыл бұрын
Chris words things in a way that makes it sound like the helenistic astrologers made astrology rather than uncovered it through observation. For example "they assigned these benefics to this sect", it makes it sound like they decided to assign it and from then on it was an astrological effect that started happening. That seems really illogical to me at first, except that I do see sort of a quantum mechanic observer effect going on in other areas of astrology... like Pluto for ex, being such an arbitrary candidate in terms of size and orbit but yet so fitting for all its astrological significantions it was assigned.
@VJ_7137
@VJ_7137 2 жыл бұрын
Great examples 👍 beautifully presented 🙏
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL 3 жыл бұрын
night chart. Venus and Saturn in square. fwiw all my benefic + malefic planets are in difficult sign placements. When I began studying astrology 30 years ago, i recall feeling as if a multitude of very complicated, nearly incomprehensible internal conflicts began to resolve.
@annamariac4451
@annamariac4451 Жыл бұрын
Traditional astrology is fascinating and far richer in its application than some modern concepts. However, with regard to Exaltations, Porphyry seems to have ignored the square aspect that Saturn forms with Capricorn - the first sign of its domicile. Likewise, with Mars in Capricorn, which shoots a square aspect to Aries - the first sign of its domicile...
@unforeseenawakening
@unforeseenawakening Жыл бұрын
@ 1:36 ~ There is so much more that we know with Johnny Depp's 2nd house mars now, so interesting. BTW, your teaching is excellent. You explained this technique better than the actual class that I'm taking. I need to take your class 😀
@eveosiris3039
@eveosiris3039 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to have found you
@ezekieldavidlarosa32
@ezekieldavidlarosa32 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great presentation! A couple questions as to how to interpret a planet when sect contradicts rulership and fall. Example: In a night chart with Mars the lesser malefic in it's fall in Libra and Saturn the greater malefic in it's rulership in Capricorn, would Saturn still be the more difficult malefic? Also in a night chart with Leo rising and Sun being the chart ruler, would the Moon still in this instance be a more powerful planet?
@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience sect is primary in describing where a planet falls on the benefic-malefic spectrum, and essential dignity then acts like a secondary mitigating factor that can modify that. So in your example Saturn would still be the most difficult planets in the chart because it is a night chart, although it would have some mitigation so that it is not worst case scenario because it is in its own sign. With respect to your second question, that is kind of complicated because both luminaries would end up being important in describing your personality, with the Moon as your sect light and Sun as your Ascendant ruler. I'm not sure that I could say that one is more powerful than the other in that instance, but they both just have slightly different roles to play.
@ezekieldavidlarosa32
@ezekieldavidlarosa32 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAstrologyPodcast That's helpful, thank you.
@SarahOpossum
@SarahOpossum 3 жыл бұрын
My DS is in the 3rd degree in Gemini, and my sun is in the 2nd degree, this should mean my chart is ruled by the moon. But the official sunset time on the day I was born is five minutes after I was born, which would mean that my chart is ruled by the sun. So I'm so relieved that you included the segment about twilight charts! I wonder if looking up the calculated sunrise/sunset time for other super close charts might shed some light on this discrepancy ❤
@astraeusgodofthestars676
@astraeusgodofthestars676 3 жыл бұрын
This is soooo informative. Thank you so much. ✨✨✨✨
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for all of this INTERESTING, and complex information!!! Perhaps you could explain how these "signs, and "celestial bodies" move?!... how is this best understood, when looking at these circular charts??!!... Explain all of the "rotational movements", and "rates" of movements, and, so forth.... How do you "Start" analyzing such a "chart"??!!...
@carolrosim2239
@carolrosim2239 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chris. Very helpful!
@michellerizopatron1521
@michellerizopatron1521 3 жыл бұрын
I am a night chart, born at 1:15 am. I have curious conjunctions, though. Venus and Jupiter conjunct, AND THEN Mars and Saturn conjunct. LOL
@gldlks219
@gldlks219 2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally watching this episode on 10/11/2021, one year after it was recorded.
@VJ_7137
@VJ_7137 3 жыл бұрын
Great session Chris 🔥🎉🙏👍
@sarahojamae
@sarahojamae 2 ай бұрын
My sun is above my ascendant in my first house by ~15 degrees, which would definitively suggest a day chart, sun over the horizon, but my lived experience of sect--of the greater benefic, of greater malefic is powerfully that of a night chart. I do not suggest this to quibble, to question, only to share anecdotal experience that may somehow be of value to someone.
@isanderfreiman2110
@isanderfreiman2110 3 жыл бұрын
Delineating profections by sect light as an alternative to the ascendant sounds really interesting. I hope there will be a podcast on this one day - I have questions! :D (F ex do the houses keep their original qualities or will the second from the sun just be the second house, even if its f ex the 7th from the ASC?)
@blesseddanzy8552
@blesseddanzy8552 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this sounds interesting 🤔
@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
The houses keep their original significations. I do go into profections from the sect light a little more in the lecture on profections in my Hellenistic astrology course.
@junkjournalguy
@junkjournalguy 2 жыл бұрын
i noticed brittnay spears when Saturn in Libra (exaltation)the first house (its Fall) depositor of Venus in Capricorn (Saturn ruled) malific and Detriment in 4th House and benefics are in reception by sign they are at the same time in detriment, fall or domicile reception by house
@metheiam5714
@metheiam5714 Жыл бұрын
I think i read from some astrology book that the Sun's diameter (or was it even perhaps radius?) is about 3° of the chart space, so even if it's marked to be 1° below the horizon, it should still be visible.
@TheScalesWillPrevail
@TheScalesWillPrevail 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this knowledge, very informative…
@lynnroots7556
@lynnroots7556 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very confused Yet inspired to persevere Chris 💕L March 9th 2022 Thank you 🧚🏻‍♀️
@miriamborne2469
@miriamborne2469 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ~ you are so clear and illuminating 🙏💚💫🌎👌
@ealtan
@ealtan 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, this was again an extremely well prepared and presented lecture, my appreciations for your time, energy and will to share. In my chart, which is a night chart with Sun in Aries, below DSC in 7th House, actually, Venus rx and Saturn are also in conjunction in the 7th WS House. :) Both in Aries. The lesser malefic Mars is in Sagittarius in the 3rd House and the ASC is Libra, Jupiter rx is in the 1st House too. And it demonstrated itself as exactly as you stated. I always had an interesting charm to find partners but I divorced twice and now I am in my third long term relationship, we've been living together for 7 years, no plan to get married and quite happy. My Mars always kind of pushed me for learning, it is as though I can not get enough of it.
@alanakayla42
@alanakayla42 2 жыл бұрын
lol the way i have a night chart and a satrun-venus conjunction.. greaaaaatttttttt we luv that
@Christhyfy
@Christhyfy Жыл бұрын
1:10:40 funny that you interpreted my (day) chart jupiter and saturn placements by chance and its painfully accurate with saturn in 11th
@sparklemint2458
@sparklemint2458 2 жыл бұрын
My theory on day or night is that people born in the morning are morning people & people born at night are night people.
@AlexJohnson-rk5qe
@AlexJohnson-rk5qe 3 жыл бұрын
15:05 what is the logic in Mercury being exalted in Virgo?
@TheAstrologyPodcast
@TheAstrologyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
See my previous episode on the origins of the exaltation scheme: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rK6CdaaEy7yXYGQ.html
@AlexJohnson-rk5qe
@AlexJohnson-rk5qe 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAstrologyPodcast thank u
@EarthAstroGirl
@EarthAstroGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Venus in Taurus today. Good for JD! 28 degrees 10th house. Kismet
@marilynzeinel-abidin1027
@marilynzeinel-abidin1027 Жыл бұрын
This presentation is So Good and Si Thorough. Thank you!!!!!! I feel like Saturn is positive and prominent in your chart. Would love to know!
@cynthiaswan6498
@cynthiaswan6498 2 жыл бұрын
very informative! thank you!
@nickischneider6771
@nickischneider6771 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Do you have a beginning on line course I can sign up for ? I resonate with your teaching style and have been looking forever for a teacher that I feel I can learn under . Great video again.
@capablecareers
@capablecareers 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent! More like this :D
@galacticrosepriestess
@galacticrosepriestess 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Thank you, Chris! I appreciate all that you share with us!
@marianajimenez8208
@marianajimenez8208 Ай бұрын
I'm barely getting my feet into this so I'm a little confused, in Ancient Astrology vol 1. in the Sect chapter says the greater diurnal malefic is Saturn, and the night greater malefic is Mars. Are there any sources explaining this discrepancy?
@MaaarSmiler
@MaaarSmiler 3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Thank you
@Selene-Moon-Light
@Selene-Moon-Light Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's technicalities beyond this because as a day chart. I definitely experienced my Saturn way harder than my Mars.
@rcwalls2010
@rcwalls2010 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! This technique explains much in my own chart and others. Thank you! Would be interested to know if day people with day people....and night people with night people....typically do better together in relationships (parent/child, marriage, boss/employee, friendship)? Do you see a lot of relationships where one is a day and the other a night? As I look back on my own experience, the troubled relationships I have are where the person is the opposite sect from me (I am day and they are night).
@malcolmmacqueen2340
@malcolmmacqueen2340 Жыл бұрын
Excellent quality lecture
@nehaagoyal
@nehaagoyal 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this, but what about those born in the afternoon?
@kellz83
@kellz83 Жыл бұрын
When you're talking about the issues you're running into when the sun is within a few degrees of the asc or dsc, I wonder if the advent of daylight's savings time has anything to do with this, and if the charts reconcile themselves when you account for that?
@mooniebjones_
@mooniebjones_ 3 жыл бұрын
I get asmr tingles when you talk 😅😭🤣 it’s the T’s and S’s
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