Hi there im between this two speakers???? TANNOY xt6 f vs KEF R300 ? What is your opinion

It's all about which speaker sounds best to you regardless of what everyone else says. Which Tannoy speakers do you have and what amp are you using?

@@TheAudiofool I have Tannoy XT 6 and Mercury 7.2. The room acoustics is very important, then amplifier, CD player, cables etc...

@@daniel85444 I have the XT6 (bookshelf speakers) and to me they are exceptional speakers for it"s price. Musical speakers with good 3D sound stage. I didn't like the R300's. Maybe the new R3 will be better choice than R300.

A more fair comparison would be two tower speakers not a bookshelf speaker vs a tower.

I suppose some floorstanders sound better if played louder or have bigger space to "bloom", but I've had floorstanders that sound good in my room like Zu Audio and Monitor Audio Bronze 5. Also, I tried it a little bit in my living room driven by Arcam A39s and it also lacks midrange vs Dirty Weekends and trounces the Zus at everything else. But again, the XT8F sounds fine as it is, just lacking mids to complete the package for me.

Yep

@@TheAudiofool Even the XT6f would probably be too much for the room (but still better than the XT8f in that room).

Sure and placement change efect

@@TheAudiofool If you ask for professional advice, you will find out that your listening room is ridiculously small, completely wrong setup, poorly acoustically treated and so on...no matter what you, your wife or your neighbor’s dog might say. You can’t cheat physics. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5Oma5aKv9vNg6s.html & kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpuio7qc2cCYcXU.html

Me too. Originally astonished by the speed, the imaging and instruments separation of the Tannoys. But over time the thin sounding really bothers me. Thinking of upgrading but don't know which speakers will have what the Tannoys have but with a more powerful/bolder sound. Any ideas?

They are very enjoyable and I did mention that in my review. What speakers did you compare it to? Everyone has different ears and tastes... At the very least, I hope that some viewers would get to be more critical of the midrange when they do their audition of the XT8F.

man, Ive been eyeing the MF M6si to match with my Tannoys. Glad to hear they're a good match. I might hold off to see if a new model comes out soon though since they have been out for a while now and are also under different ownership. cheers!

@@h2ophilter If you can find a used M6si from someone who took good care of it you could get a good deal - Enjoy

My listening room is about 10'x17'. It's not that big but I don't think having a bigger room will improve the midrange and I can already hear the holographicness of the XT8F as it is. It's true though that the size does affect the speakers as my living room is about 24'x19', and the LS50 does not sound as good there with only a little acoustic panels.

XT8f has a lot of bass extension.. in a small room, sometimes bass frequency can mask and interfere the other range..

@@taeheeyoon6020 They do have a lot of bass extension, and certainly goes down lower than 40hz. In my room, the bass was overpowering in the Alicia keys song, but I attribute that to the response curve of the speakers, since in Trials of the Past, both Tekton and LS50 produce more SPL than the XT8F in the 3 bass notes as I mentioned in my review. But I do get your point, that maybe the speakers need space to "bloom", and should've done more testing in my living room.

my room size is 13 feet * 18 feet

Using RCA 6SN7 on my Freya, I got to improve the midrange a bit, so a good SET would definitely improve the midrange a bit.

I'll be using the Tannoys with a Freya, and biamping with PrimaLuna Prologue Five amps. I'm hoping for the best.

What you recommend for floorstanders then?

Which stands do you use for your LS50’s?

@@craigneumann78 I got metals stands off Amazon and filled them with sand. The ls50s disappear like nobodies business. I can't remember the brand, but they have 4 black square columns and made out of all steel. They were around 140 cdn.

Thanks. For future vids with floorstanders, I'll make sure to review in my living room as well.

Thanks. I agree, and room treatment should be top of mind of all audiofools after getting their amps and speakers. I actually have a video on my room treatment way back, but it may have too much unsubtle humor hahah. If you would like to punish yourself, here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br1yfNKUqs6mooE.html . I have been meaning on creating a new one this time with helmholtz resonators but I've yet to get started hehe.

Hmmm... I haven't heard the Q950 yet, maybe I'll take a listen. Thanks.

That's great! That's inside my recommended price of £820, and brand new to boot!

What do you mean by cable sensitive? Are you using silver plated copper

@@johnsweda2999 I asked other owner and was informed to use AudioQuest Tye 4 was using base Chord option. Did improve definition of music. Surprised impact of good interconnnexts.

@moose 174466 I now have £4500 worth of Avid and Musical Fidelity amplification with Linn LP12 with many upgrades and really enjoying these speakers.

Those Aria are great speakers indeed

Yes, everyone should always try before they buy.

Thank you. Regarding the Tektons, I'm sorry but I don't know which model would fit you best as they have lots of speakers at the price range you mentioned. Best to check with Tekton themselves. Personally, I prefer bookshelves and quite happy with the Impact Monitors, but the Perfect SET looks quite interesting with its 12" woofer. At the size of your room, you probably don't need a subwoofer so maybe try it without first. What are you going to drive the speakers with?

@@TheAudiofool Thanks for the reply. The Perfect SET looks like a good option. I'm considering that and the Enzo XL currently. Both front ported, which I'm looking for since I will be sticking them in the corners. For metal I found a sub is really essential, even if using huge speakers like the Cerwin Vega RE-38's, which have 15" woofers. I am currently using an Onkyo SR702, which is an older model that uses Burr Brown DAC's, 100W per channel, and allows for bass management for my sub. I am considering the Outlaw RR2160 but would like to try the Onkyo first. I am really not fond of bright or fatiguing speakers. Do you think I would experience that more-so with either the XT 8F or Tekton flavors?

@@JPWinters The XT8F is brighter than the Impact Monitor, but I don't find it fatiguing though perhaps at my threshold. Do try it out with the Onkyo first since there's no harm in trying, and maybe you won't find the need to change it.

THanks for watching. Agree. My newer videos have a comparison chart for you to be able to picture the gear better.

Thanks for watching. I agree with what you said, mids are thicker in the LS50s but will have trouble with more complex passages. I do not agree with having a more powerful amp, because I've heard the XT8Fs with 30w tubes and they sound quite better compared with some high powered amps, so it's really more on what amp you like. That said, every speaker is just different and no speaker will be perfect, but there will be a perfect one for you... until you find something better lol.

Exactly the same feeling as I have. The Tannoys are much faster and more transparent. I feel they are levels above the ls50s.

Perhaps. Zu Audio sounds great though.

I haven't had the chance to try the Bouchard S300. Against the Elac UB5, I wasn't able to do a direct AB comparison yet, but from memory, the Impact Monitor blows the UB5 away with its fantastic midrange and deeper lows.

From memory, XT8F is a lot more fun than the SIlver 200.

@@TheAudiofool shucks, that's both valuable and vague. "Fun" could mean many things. Is XT8F less natural, moe colored? MA seems to be quite warm and precise. It would be nice to able to listen to both side by side. That's hard.

@@shashanktripathi960 Yeah, its hard to gauge especially since both also had different gears driving them. By Fun, I meant that the XT8F for me is more exciting (a bit more forward, pricklier highs), and something that I would prefer to listen to over the MA. I consider MA to be more neutral but it might be because a roksan blak was driving it.

Yes, up to a certain point, spending more doesn't really justify the return of sound quality you get, but each person has a different saturation point. In this review, I'm trying out putting a value of how much I would personally pay for the speakers but I'm finding it difficult to make it objective.... Score wise, I should be willing to buy the speakers for $1625 which is a far cry from it's SRP! The 590s look like interesting speakers, and I'll check out the 530s if I can find a good deal on it.

The Audiofool Thanks for the reply! I was playing harp music last night just because, if that gives you any indication on how great these compression tweeters are! Harp Music! And I am not a harp music kind of guy or at least I wasn’t until yesterday!🤓😝😉🤪. Even my wife was like what the F those things literally sound likes Harps. Piano as well! I now myself now need to find 530’s because my Boston Acoustic rears sound way off when playing 5 channel stereo like I sometimes do! The wife drove me crazy last night when she said I should have bought 2 more for the rears! At less than $500 a pop and if I would have known, I would have bought 7 and arranged the room to accept the large center 590 instead of the 520 that I just bought. The 520 center also works and looks great with the grills on I may add! Just do a KZfaq search. You’ll see your competitors/ KZfaq colleagues love them! The only bad thing is that the 590’s are 70 lbs and awkward to move and as you will see, have semi cheap feet!🤔🤫🤫🤫😬🤓😎. The fact that JBL would take them back for free return shipping and all should tell you something! They are as big as the klipsch RF 7 III but weigh 30 pounds less! Anyway great review as always🤗

Do let me know how it goes. Definitely better for classical music.

Had the Tannoys for a few months now and I'm very happy with them. In fact, I put my LS50s back in their box. Also got a pair of Harbeth 30.2s. I'll probably take my LS50s up to my cabin in Montana for use in my system there. The room is smaller.

@@Rickzolla I love the Kef LS50s and share the sentiment that in the long run, especially if you listen to Jazz or classic music, I would go with the Tannoys. The Kef are fantastic, but a bit more jumbled in their sound.

Depending on the recording, yes.

@@TheAudiofool thanks you for answering. Does this even go low to 30 or 40 hz(hearing textures with a subwoofer)? Second question: do ls50 provide bass textures in good quality (even when not so low likr on tannoy)?

@@DragonofStorm The XT8F can easily do 40hz and starts to slowly reduce spl. In my room it can do around 30hz but not as loud as the 40. I was expecting bass textures to be better than the LS50, but it turns out that the LS50 is better rendered above 50hz and then the advantage slowly goes to the XT8F as it goes lower.

@@TheAudiofool but you should be using a schiit Loki then you can dial it in

@@johnsweda2999 Haven't tried the Loki yet, but can't really force the LS50 to go deeper than it can.

Played them with some 90's grunge... Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden... They were a blast. What sort of rumble did they mean?

@@TheAudiofool not sure... I was considering them for replacing my focal 726 but I'll probably have to give them a listen before

@@nukey555 There's definitely a huge jump in terms of fun factor from the 726 but always better to do audition if possible.

For this comparison, yes, I reduce 53hz digitally before sending to the Yggy.

Really? My dealer says they're still active, but I'll look into that. Perhaps it's just the UK factory?

Thanks - update me

They would sound great with Rega, Naim, CXA, and Schiit.... Hmmm... they pretty much sound great with any amp.

@@TheAudiofool what kind of size do you think (watt's)

Sorry forgot to say i have xt8 Tannoys

@@sammason666 What size is your room? if it's not too big, 60w should be okay; more if your room is large.

@@TheAudiofool it's about 18ft x 26ft and fairly low seiling

I can't tell as I havent had the chance to hear it in my room, but sound should be similar. I think I would prefer the XT6Fs as I found the Silvers to be too boring for my tastes, but you may have different tastes.

@@TheAudiofool I have heard Silver 200 & 300 at the same demo & 300s were quite a bit better. Have not heard Tannoys but am aware they have had good reviews. Mids in 300s are supposed to be good. Is it only the silver 200s you have heard ? I may know what you mean about the Silver's there may not be too much going on. Is that why you think Tannoys may be better ?

@@Chris-nd5se The Silver 300s were the ones I heard. They're quite well balanced and all, and they have more solid surefooted bass compared to the Tannoys, but the Tannoy's are livelier, at least in my treated room, and they have a more extended sharper highs and louder looser lows, that makes it a bit more exciting. But if you've heard the silvers, and it's the sound you're looking for, then go for it.

@@TheAudiofool Just wondered whether Tannoy's may be harsher sounding with poor recordings, as with Silver 300s treble is rolled off a little. I did think 300s were good value, also they look nice and have had good reviews but I agree you could say they were a bit ordinary sounding. Do you think one would need more power than the other to get the best out of them, my amp is only 33 watts pc

@@Chris-nd5se It may be a little harsher with poor recordings. As for power, my belief is that power is only needed for reaching your desired volume. If you still have some ways to go before max volume and it's not distoring at that level, then you should be fine. It's more important to have an amp that you like the sound of; for example, I like the sound of my 20w aegir vs arcam a39 120w, vs peachtree audio nova 300 300w, as it gives the best fluidity in the mids. That said, your 33w amp should be able to handle 2.9ohms minimum if you want the Tannoys while the SIlvers are a bit easier needing min 3.6ohms.

It is very fun and musical.

I didnt really find the 8F to be bright, and as mentioned in the review, it was quite enjoyable for me until I compared it to other speakers lol. Great price on the 6Fs, the 8Fs was bought for about EUR 750 and sold at 1k.

@@TheAudiofool I kept my smaller and cheaper Tannoy Eclipse 3 floorstanders because they are much easier to listen.

Thanks for watching. While it is specified as an 8ohm speaker, the impedance goes as low as 2.9ohms @100hz so AVRs and some amps will get a bit hot paired with this speaker.

If you have a large room the R3 would be a better choice. For a smaller room, I would go with the LS50 as I still find it better for vocals, but if you listen more to bass intensive songs, go with the R3.

@@TheAudiofool Thanks, much appreciated.

hi sorry, are you asking if the combination would sound great? yes, if you are looking for exciting sound.

1000 a pair? That's good value then.

My reviews always have a comparison in terms of sound. That way if you've heard an LS50 or Tekton Impact Monitor, you will have an idea on how the Tannoy will sound.

what amp are you using with the 8F?

Musical Fidelity A5 Power Amp

Bass is definitely better in the XT8F as the Zu's have tubby sound and decay is noticeably longer. I find the midrange to be better in the Zus, although the imaging is not as tight. Highs are much better in the XT8Fs although the Zus can be passable if you have the clarity cap upgrade. The XT8Fs are currently in sale in the UK and I think it's worth it at the sale price (not at retail though).

Let me just first clarify that the XT8F goes lower than the LS50 and goes lower than 40hz in my room. I just mean that the LS50 does more bass volume in Trials of the past, as the XT8F does more in the Alicia Keys track. Also, according to hometheaterhifi.com, the XT8F impedance can go as low as 2.9ohms at 100hz, so while it might play loud easily, it will take a lot of amp grunt to make it sing. I tried the speakers out on Schiit Ragnarok, Pioneer M22 and Freya +, Marantz SR5012, Onkyo A9150, all to the same effect. I have not read the Hifipig review, but will check it out. What did they compare it to? I did not mean to be so damning hahaha and as I mentioned, I did enjoy them a lot.

I see. What amp are you using it with?

@@TheAudiofool Sumo Andromeda 3, just for the bass and mid range :)

@@BastianUllr That's a beast of an amp!

Yes, I did. Unfortunately, it was right after I auditioned the 8F in the store so it kinda got drowned out by the 8F. They're still as fun though, but has a slightly sharper and leaner character.

The Audiofool yeah, I imagine it does. I never got to audition the 8F but it’s a larger speaker so it makes sense that it’s got a fuller sound. I was thinking that maybe the 6Fs would be better suited to your room given its size. Anyway, continue reviewing audio equipment, you’re quite good at it. Cheers!

Tannoy is a UK brand, but is currently owned by Music Group/Behringer whose holding company is based in the Philippines; speakers are mostly made in China, except the Legacy series which I think are still made in Scotland.

Non c'è bisogno di attaccare, è una conversazione. Sono d'accordo con te sul fatto che i Tannoy sono fantastici, vedi il mio commento sopra, solo diverso dall'LS50. Ora in materia di gusti, a ciascuno il suo.