Founding ISB & Ashoka, Working With Governments Across The World and The Problem With IITs

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In this exciting new episode Shantanu sits down with educational entrepreneur and McKinsey veteran, Pramath Raj Sinha. Join the conversation as they delve into Pramath's journey from his childhood to his successful career at McKinsey, and his return to India to establish multiple educational institutions like ISB, Ashoka, Vedica, and Harappa. Tune in to gain insights into entrepreneurship, leadership, and the power of education, all while enjoying an engaging conversation between two accomplished professionals.
Introduction: 00:00-2:30
Pramath’s childhood and being an only son: 2:30-7:48
Why he left consulting: 7:50-8:22
My grandfather, father have all been writers and poets: 8:36-10:08
Printing press business: 10:10-14:54
All my life I was told to not do business: 14:55-16:16
Sister Manjari Jauhar: 16:24-21:08
Fighting a civil case and becoming IPS: 21:51- 23:53
Traditional thinking and changing ideas 25:16 - 26:50
Being involved in writing: 28:32 - 29:40
IIT and studying engineering: 29:45 - 35:10
Being in college: 35:12 - 39:08
IITs are like liberal education: 39:10 - 39:42
Learning programming and problem solving: 39:40 - 41:53
CAT 42:00 - 43:50
Getting a CS job: 43:00 - 44:50
Getting into UPenn 45:15 - 46:56
Financial support 47:00 - 47:59
Why have you come here?: 48:00 - 49:00
Jobs on campus 49:10 - 51:45
Choosing courses 52:16 - 54:30
Robotics: 54:36 - 55:43
Getting a scholarship: 57:00 - 57:15
Doing CS PhD 57:33 - 1:01:20
Applying to Mckinsey: 1:01:21 - 1:10:14
The India story: 1:10:26 - 1:11:06
Imbibing a work ethic: 1:11:11 - 1:12:00
The Russians and an elevator pitch 1:12:20 - 1:20:53
“Did I screw up?” 1:21:00 - 1:25:50
How to make others successful: 1:25:52 - 1:30:54
Mentorship: 1:30:55 - 1:33:20
Building a new school: 1:33:40 - 1:36:40
ISB: 1:36:42 - 1:39:47
Working with Wharton and Penn : 1:39:51 - 1:43:44
Just do it: 1:45:22 - 1:47:21
Ensuring outcomes in education 1:48:50 - 1:51:23
Break the problem down for ISB/ ‘aha!’ moment: 1:51:25 - 1:53:12
Having stellar faculty: 1:53:55 - 1:56:20
What does faculty need? 1:56:15 - 1:57:05
Collective philanthropy 1:57:10 - 1:59:10
Early days of Ashoka: 1:59:20 - 2:00:00
Visiting faculty/Block teaching model 2:02:10 - 2:05:00
Online learning 2:05:10 - 2:08:40
Women are still getting left out: 2:09:16 - 2:09:54
Getting away from grades and privatisation: 2:10:10 - 2:15:24
Problem of scale and higher education: 2:16:35 - 2:20:47
Rajat Gupta: 2:25:40 - 2:47:00
Conclusion 2:47:00 - 2:49:07
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@sanketgole6344 Жыл бұрын

This is the first episode in which shantanu is just listening. It's that engaging ❤

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

Read Rajiv Malhotra's books Snakes in the Ganga to know more about how Indian Corporates are a funding Breaking India forces including the likes Ashoka University to funnel Western Woke agenda into India..Dont just go by the trappings of resumes of these people

@Fun_and_Knowledge_ Жыл бұрын

@@airyanemvaejah3221 The Ashoka University episode is very sad

@AlexanderIsDead Жыл бұрын

If only he restricted himself to drinks!! I mean, the crunching noise while he was snacking was irritating, don't ya agree?

@main_stream_media_is_a_joke 8 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderIsDeadCrunching?....I thought those were barber farts....

@shivayshakti6575 Жыл бұрын

I studied at Ashoka my sister studied at Naropa on a full scholarship, they didn't ask what caste I was, only on the basis of needs and merit. Thanks to this visionary🙏!

@kaulkaul8898 Жыл бұрын

they do not have caste quotas ?

@shivayshakti6575 Жыл бұрын

@@kaulkaul8898 As private institutions caste-based reservation is not there but need-based support is immense!

@shubha987 Жыл бұрын

@@shivayshakti6575 wow need to said😊! I hope this becomes reality in our country....

@rakshit8570 Жыл бұрын

They wont ask for ur caste but will play a huge role to define why ur oppressed in every way of life by imaginary someone, they will make concession for gender fluids rather than a normal person, also the more woke u r the more money/ sponsorship u will get. Also not opposite view of extreme leftist will be tolerated there. - Welcome to Ashoka University our one and only woke university where we all will shit on India and embrace Christianity and Islam otherwise if Hindu u r automatically are intolerant. Also we are civilized by Brits - according to professors of university, and dont dare u challenge it otherwise u will suffer ur whole time. Also we take funds from foreign NGO to run propaganda in India with the likes of Gerorge Soros, and many agencies which are always anti india.

@adisj5696 10 ай бұрын

its woke af though. and you dont need ashoka, alot of private universities dont have reservations even before ashoka

@tejaswi1995 Жыл бұрын

The art of story telling by Pramath is unparalleled. Thank you for this wonderful podcast!!

@sarthak7617 Жыл бұрын

The eating in between feels sometimes wierd, but the podcast of this guy is one of the best on YT

@rohitmehta1216 Жыл бұрын

Shantanu jyada chaba rha hai..😂😂

@amarpabalkar2677 5 ай бұрын

@sarthak7617 thanks for talking my heart. He was distracted while talking something really interesting…Shantanu should take care of this next time.

@aveekbaruah5023 Жыл бұрын

The best Barbershop podcast till date, and probably one of the best interviews I have listened to ever.

@ksaha6387 Жыл бұрын

This is one interview I'll probably be watching multiple times over !..😂 A life lived to the fullest !

@mandarsalunkhe09 Жыл бұрын

He was Lucky to get such professor. Love his perspective and experiences. Thanks Shantanu for bringing him on this podcast.

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

@prashant9267 Жыл бұрын

damn top 5 podcasts of my life, I am not very vocal bout my bihar roots but ppl like Pratham sir, make me wanna say it wid pride. Thanks ps- if possible get rajat sir on the podcast

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

@TrisomyTwoOne Жыл бұрын

Few months ago I read 'Madam Sir', it was fascinating and inspiring. Now knowing about her brother is equally impactful. Thanks a ton Shantanu and team for bringing such a great podcast. 💝

@kartikeysingh2705 Жыл бұрын

Great interview! Kept me engaged right till the end - valuable lessons in institution building. As an ISB alum, will always have great respect and gratitude for our Founding Dean :)

@raunakrander5887 Жыл бұрын

The cat has nine lives, and this man had 90, it's interesting how many changes a person can through, and leave a lasting legacy behind.

@drpratik_sahoo Жыл бұрын

The conversation just blew my mind!!! Such rich insights from a person who has “made things happen”. Thank You Shantanu!

@Mulkitron Жыл бұрын

Absolutely inspiring. This episode has single-handedly provoked me to reinitiate my education and reevaluate my professional life. Thank you Pramath Sir, Shantanu and the team at Barbershop for creating this.

@sayantanic7005 Жыл бұрын

Thank you would be an understatement to bring up this episode with such a personality having unimaginable wisdom, intellect, experience and an attitude to adore. It's a multi time watch. Shantanu, I would request you to bring episodes on the Indian education system especially higher education. It would be highly appreciated. Thank you, keep doing the fabulous work. Best wishes.

@yvekm Жыл бұрын

Every one should go through this video. Story of the person behind a great institution like ISB & Ashoka

@shashanknaik1604 Жыл бұрын

This channel is the best Indian podcast channel by far... Beerbiceps comes nowhere close

@utsavpatodia1085 Жыл бұрын

Mind = Blown! This is pure insight @Shantanu and @Pramath. Keeping me hooked for ~3 hours in an attention-span era of shorts.

@vikashrkeshri8484 Жыл бұрын

The Barbershop with Shantanu was a great session; I enjoyed listening to each and every word by Pramath Raj Sinha. As someone from Patna, the narrative of his early days was very nostalgic. Also, as public health researchers, we also hardly focus on the great ideas and lessons that business and consultancy can offer. As a sequel to this podcast, I listened to many interviews of Rajat Gupta; what a gem of a person; his every word sounded like a chapter. Next, I am eager to read 'Mind without Fear' Thanks for opening a new worldview and helping in giving a new lens to our critical thinking

@rohitmane1402 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes it feels Shantanu is for movie where he is liking popcorn than the movie😂😂,however as a listener i am glad to watch this great interview

@ketanjain6731 Жыл бұрын

As a YLP admit, this makes me excited to join soon

@akshaybharadwaj2383 Жыл бұрын

just phenomenal shantanu .. top stuff.. amazing story telling and engagement .. really enjoyed it

@vaidyapraveen Жыл бұрын

This was worth spending more than two hours, listening to him was great education itself🎉

@sunitanair6659 Жыл бұрын

Wow wow.what a conversation..thank you for getting Parmanth Sir on

@drishtantkaushal Жыл бұрын

What a masterpiece this is! Absolutely loved it Shantanu!

@iamshantanumishra Жыл бұрын

Absolutely blown my Pramath journey, I can only say one word that is wow. Great Work Shantanu

@varunnair2663 Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely a brilliant podcast. Kept me engaged for all 3 hours. All the anecdotes, everything so engaging. Thanks for that, and a great touch with the emotional part of the video, added a very human touch.

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

@rajjain3357 Жыл бұрын

Hey, this is great episode, I've seen all the episodes of barbershop and I take incredible amount of value out of it. Thanks for doing it! Just a small point of feedback - i listen to this on headphones while walking or in leisure time, and the sounds of eating is slightly annoying from an experience point of view. Not a deterrent though, but wanted to point it out.

@khilanathsharma2756 Жыл бұрын

One of the best podcast I have ever listened to. So much of learning, lessons, insight and understanding of everything in life. Thank you Shantanu for bringing him.

@abhishekjha18 Жыл бұрын

Loved this episode. When are you getting Rajat Gupta? That’ll be a BIG one!

@preetijain2570 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely a visual and audio treat. All the anecdotes are thoroughly inspiring. Thank you for bringing him on board.

@rutvikpage5394 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this boss; I don’t think I could have spent a better evening.

@shrutikumari5815 10 ай бұрын

So privileged to have studied at AshokaU. And even more grateful for having taught by this legend Pramath Raj Sinha. Grateful to be mentored by him through my career.

@prashant9267 Жыл бұрын

Every time I listen to <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="146">2:26</a>:00 it just brings sadness n pain, like why & how does legacy of a man who in a way built world's most powerful consultancy firm is put through such trials of court & life.

@rakshit8570 Жыл бұрын

haha, if u know how to play victim and cry after running ur institution from foreign anti india funds, also from extreme leftist and woke funds given by US with the likes of Geroge soros who funds most with CIA to create unrest.

@vaidyaray8041 Жыл бұрын

One of the best Podcasts I have ever heard. Was having a bit of existential crisis on the weekend - however listening to this recharged my senses. A must listen!

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

@vedantagarwal1918 Жыл бұрын

I study at UC Berkeley right now and I’ve faced the exact same problems that he talked about facing at IIT Kanpur and till day there hasn’t been a solution found for accommodating for each student at universities

@typicalindian1238 3 ай бұрын

Go bears! 🐻

@user-tp2dt6eq5j 11 ай бұрын

Pramath is every inch a typical kayasth..full of street smartness and shrewdness, made an extraordinary career out of less than ordinary persona(including intellectual part). Amazing success story of an ever evolving gentleman!

@familybihani4389 Жыл бұрын

Loved this podcast and very well spoken human he is. Looking to see similar videos like these 😊

@rkanagala 8 ай бұрын

Oh, my goodness! this is such an intense and influencing podcast. Thanks Shantanu for bringing this to all. These podcasts are your biggest contribution to our society. Much respect..

@abhishekkumarsingh290 Жыл бұрын

High quality conversation... absolutely brilliant

@impracticaldev Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. You have contributed so much to my growth.

@harshitgrover128 Жыл бұрын

Very insightful enjoyed every piece of it .keep up the good work shantanu and team

@lakshaygupta2816 11 ай бұрын

Hello Shantanu, new to your channel and I highly regret not knowing about it earlier... The content is just so enriching in terms of knowledge and life exp that there's no substitute for it.... God speed!!

@RB-nh8lf Жыл бұрын

Looking for chapter 2. As Shantanu rightly at the end i was actually looking for more on how he built ISB and other institutions. The first half of the conversation was his personal life story, although it was interesting in bits and pieces, but it wasn't value adding for me. But i am definitely looking forward for chapter 2 where you would discuss around ISB and other higher educational instituitions.

@rakshit8570 Жыл бұрын

If u want something knowledgeable better to avoid him and Ashoka university, all u will get extreme left views with nice wrapped up words to destroy ur own culture and celebrating the woke stuff added with islamist and Christianity, also u can research on the university urself and there professors.

@jayanthjayaprakashjj4796 Жыл бұрын

Superb learning! Thank you Shantanu!

@rupendra6104 Жыл бұрын

Dear BarberShop team, please bring more guests like Pratham who have played and are playing a big role in building India. This was really a rare, one-of-a-kind learning experience watching this episode. The guest is definitely a gem but Shantanu who thought of inviting such a guest and asking the right questions is also a gem....keep inspiring

@digvijaysingh6515 Жыл бұрын

Such insightful discussion. Loved it!

@jayanthjayaprakashjj4796 Жыл бұрын

Yes Shantanu we need another episode.

@RaviKannankr Жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Interview. Lot of wisdom Lot of takeaways on education. Must watch.

@HVTSpeaks Жыл бұрын

This is the best one. So much learning!!

@fonty58 Жыл бұрын

Amazing episode!!! Hope you get a chance to do this with Rajat Gupta as well - less about the incident and more about his shaping years!

@adityadang6048 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the only episode in which listening to every single word is worth gold!

@stutiagrawal1018 Жыл бұрын

Made us hook for 3 hours w/o a second thought! This is amazing!!!

@airyanemvaejah3221 Жыл бұрын

@pitbuk5537 Жыл бұрын

what a podcast man, brilliant!, it was worth every second, and also Now I want to join McKinsey

@shivayshakti6575 Жыл бұрын

Tech is today's McKinsey

@rajeshreeshihag8926 Жыл бұрын

Amazing, inspiring, loved it

@nautic522 9 ай бұрын

cannot believe I watched the whole thing. Great storytelling skills by Mr. Pramath.

@vasumanchanda6979 Жыл бұрын

Damn inspiring. Thank you.

@1856parth Жыл бұрын

Profound conversation !

@jerrypartners 5 ай бұрын

First podcast from Shantanu I listened the whole 2 hours.

@shriramerande6199 Жыл бұрын

Thank you shantanu for this wonderful podcast!!!

@riyasharma8767 Жыл бұрын

what a lovely conversation!

@sukhda Жыл бұрын

BRILLIANT EPISODE!

@anuragsiddhu465 Жыл бұрын

this was an excellent conversation. inspiring to say the least

@yhisaria Жыл бұрын

All ISB Alums give me a cheer 🔥

@ashankbhandari Жыл бұрын

Represent!

@shobhitshrivas6636 Жыл бұрын

Great Video! Loved it

@dreamsdocometrue2628 6 ай бұрын

I am going to meet Pramatha and Rajat hopefully in this lifetime...ISB and Mckinsey, here I come!

@rohitmane1402 Жыл бұрын

Loved it❤️❤️

@dhoomketu731 Жыл бұрын

I have something to say about what Sinha ji said at @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1800">30:00</a>. I am not sure about other countries because of my limited exposure but it does seem to me that in India, choosing to pursue engineering is all about getting into a branch that offers the most lucrative placement opoortunities. It is completely bereft of genuine academic curiosity. Is it a coincidence that year after year, top rank holders choose Computer Science over any other branch? How can top rankers be only interested in Computer Science? Doesn't anyone among them want to become a nuclear physicist or an aerodynamicist or a weapons designer or a chip designer. I do understand that for an average Indian middle class family, children's education is nothing short of a sincere financial investment but we must also find ways of addressing the problem which is that IITs have been reduced to placement agencies rather than centers of technological excellence. I felt really sad when Sinha ji said that bottom rankers were either assigned metallurgical or aeronautical engineering. Our country lags badly behind the West and China when it comes to critical jet engine technology and hypersonic missiles. Streamlining our elementary science curricullum in a way that arouses curiosity in young minds towards technologies of strategic importance to our nation is one way to deal with this problem. Another way would be for the government toinvest heaviliy in sectors of strategic importance to us like semiconductor fabrication, high stress metallurgy and make it even more open to the private sector.

@abhishekpandey6419 Жыл бұрын

Mid way of the interview only thing i did was ordered the book Madam Sir

@jhitman3351 Жыл бұрын

So good, I had to subscribe from two channels to do it justice.

@PV-vm9cl 7 ай бұрын

Great interview! Pramath was my senior at St. Michael's High.

@aniketsharma272 Жыл бұрын

From the first second I vibed with this podcast. The vibe between the guest and the host is perfect. The guest is an OG.

@omkarsawant7933 Жыл бұрын

This is a masterclass in edtech, my eyes are teary while writing this. 🥂🥂

@Saksham1109 11 ай бұрын

This episode is a gem!

@gauravkaushik859 Жыл бұрын

This one was so engaging till end.

@enclave100 Жыл бұрын

Rajat story sank my heart

@taniya1982 Жыл бұрын

Such an inspiring one

@vmm4658 Жыл бұрын

"Crunchy foods are overrated! Soft and squishy foods are where it's at. Who needs all that noise and effort when you can have a smooth and easy eating experience?" 😂👌

@rohanmadan4998 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true😂

@daksheshthacker1419 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic episode but his final punchline on reimagining/changing face of higher education is opposite to what he tells Shantanu's team members in the beginning. Felt slightly contradictory.

@nehatickoo1195 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful session

@cinephilicminimalist9519 Жыл бұрын

The only hindrance/distraction in this interview was Shantanu's continuous munching. Absolutely loved Mr. Sinha's journey.

@Rahul-uy8xo Жыл бұрын

Man, This is actually a reallllllllll golllllllllllllllldddddddddd!

@Shannukunku 10 ай бұрын

He gives the Perfect Leader Vibe 1hr spent insightful

@aryansuri8452 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible if you can get Rajat Gupta on the show???

@shubhamdave9656 7 ай бұрын

Best episode

@raghavrajsaluja4926 11 ай бұрын

A great man!

@TanmayvMukim Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this podcast just like a story, I would like to know more about Rajat.😊

@joydaboi-ds9ck Жыл бұрын

Well said it’s something very learning episode and middle of that host eating. All the time it’s really look wired.

@traveller1988 Жыл бұрын

Great choice of guest!!...but I have to say. Divorce was not easy. Shantanu: Waaaooo... We were from traditional family. Shantanu: Waaaoo...@Shantanu If you don't have anything to comment then just dont😂😂

@munafshaikh6125 Жыл бұрын

Hope to see shantanu interviewing Rajat Gupta the legend....one day

@adityagupta1973 Жыл бұрын

Shantanu saying "ohh wow" 😂😂

@piyushjain886 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow

@debm09 Жыл бұрын

Do 1 more episode with him

@sandeepjha3949 3 ай бұрын

Would love to see something similar in Digital Health for India if Shantanu can bring some one in Podcast who can revolutionise Digital Health in India. Bring some challenges in table and give some policy level changes which india need to do and how Govt and private both can follow. There is no regulatory body in Healthcare and many things. The way currently india is taking steps via NHA is not collaborate and somehow the governance is also very poor and then people like global tech company don’t believe in India healthcare policy etc etc …..we need someone to solve this big problem

@afreenkhan1470 Жыл бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2270">37:50</a> Hi Shantanu! Please refrain from snacking in front of your guests and it does seem distracting to them and viewers as well! Apart from this amazing interview !!