Just tried it, its awesome

the title says it is AI

@@DiogoSilva-xx8nz my friends call me Al, Weird Al

Code Converter is the best one

Instructions unclear, I now have a to-do list of to-do lists of notes that enclose a weather app. How do fix?😢

5:00 he does say please 🙏

Every time I use chatgpt, I speak to it with this type of caution 😅

Polite is inferred from an emotional state, noone in business cares about politeness, only the feely humans do, they already stay poor and weak when working for humans. Humans already accept weak living standards and working for a boss, so for these people nothing really changes, they already die without owning as much as a home or more than 1 car and have accepted this TODAY already

im fucked up with chatGPT then lol

That's not how this works at all As long as you can reasonably direct the prompts to a specific purpose using information that is embedded in the model (i.e. something the model learned), you can pretty much fully mitigate "hallucinations" - which is still infinitely easier to debug than often minuscule errors. Never mind that you can always just use it as a second step to making sense of code, including its own; if you think AI code is difficult to handle or somehow even remotely worse than man-made stuff, you really haven't been paying attention for the better part of the last 12 months. Use it, learn that you were wrong about it, and put your knee-jerk reaction to it in the past. Or don't, maybe you just really like doing it the hard way, what do I know.

​@@minhuang8848 It's a useful tool for sure, but gpt absolutely does "hallucinate" code and even make up plausible sounding reasons for what it wrote, all the while being completely wrong. I've had it acknowledge specific mistakes, then retype the same code verbatim, then write a specious story about how it's now fixed. It may be helpful for mocking things up but I'd be wary of counting on gpt at this point. Little bugs you miss can build up and cost more time in the long run.

So be smart and learn how to create a tech lead AI to solve the worker AI's problem

@@minhuang8848did you even understand what OP wrote ? He’s talking about all people pumping out AI code for us to fix And u know why I call that job security

Use a second AI to debug hallucinated code of the first AI

Complexity is not in the base, a lot of non-coders already use wordpress or boilerplate code for literally decades. The complexity is and always has been the specific things. All my chatGPT prompts fail where juniors ALSO fail and come to me for irl for help, which are always the very specific things. ChatGPT also fails almost all my codewars prompts, the prompts that my basic human brain could easily handly, so it's not even close yet. Even when I give an accepted solution of a codewar problem and ask for a simple refactor or small change in the assignment it utterly fails

No this will just be another tool to build medium quality cookie cutter no personality brands/websites, just like AI is doing anywhere. AI is not creative, it's only doing what has been done in the past.

for most people, personal websites don't bring money, working on other clients projects does

​@@mskzzzi don't think AI code really has much to do with the outcome of the product tbh. At least in my opinion, it accomplishes same thing frontend component libraries like shadcn do; it makes it slightly quicker to get things out there and takes care of a lot of stuff you already know how to do. A complex code base built by someone using AI generated code (when the person in question has no technical understanding of programmimg) will inevitably fall apart.

how naive can you be

I don't think there will be a need for code per se, you could just input stuff to an AI and it can take care of the whole shebang without showing a single line of code, deploy itself, fix itself, etc.

Nah, The average quality of the Ai creates is based on the average quality of the data it’s trained on, sure in some cases it’ll be unique but the quality stays roughly the same. The reason ai is good at generating code is because of the data it’s trained on, statistically if you feed the ai code to ai, then the average code quality won’t change. Now, Ai doesn’t know what it’s generating, it just spitting out code that’s likely to work in the past because the data it has been trained. If the Ai doesn’t even know what it’s generating, how can the ai debug code effectively 100% of the time, perhaps it can if the data that has been trained on has similar problem but outside of that it will fail and hallucinates. The harder the problem and if the ai is not familiar with the problem, it’ll fail and ultimately hallucinates. I’ve had experience this myself with css where the ai can’t debug it and most of the time, I’m the one who’s able to debug it but it’s still interesting by seeing how ai try to solve it and fail at it, I’m able to eliminate what doesn’t work so I can spend more time on finding what actually works. Here's the point, even if you have infinite ai stack upon each other, if one ai (I'm being generous here) at the most top of the stack hallucinates or fail, *everything else collapse* . Why? Because Ai is probabilistic. Certain factors will lead it too hallucinates more and give inaccurate outcome or just straight mediocre outcome. You want an ai that produce uncertain results while at the same time not able to innovate ( because the outcome quality it produce is limited to the quality data it has been trained on) and not being aware what it's generating? Imagine the time and resources you need to maintain that kind of structure and suddenly everything collapse. At some point you will need human intervention (even if we have to integrate it with our brain, it’s going to be a thing in the future, just look it up) because the ai fundamentally is just statistic.

yep just a toy

We are in the generation of small teams doing enterprise stuff. Unless we loose a day fighting with AI. This window will last 3-5 years. Then the templates that fit your entity will be refined and available for most, they kinda are. Need a thread, need a cart, need a streaming site, etc …still takes knowledge of terms and the basics how things work.

The goal is to replace devs, not help them. From a business standpoint we are a money sink.

​@@Ironicationthe goal is not to replace devs? The goal is to enhance productivity and make programming more efficient. If the side effect is fewer devs, that doesn't mean the aim was to replace devs.

@@chris94kennedy The only goal is to minimize the costs and maximize the profits.

Backend devs are also gonna get replaced. Remember, an AGI is an AI that can do anything a human can do, which we’ll have in about 3-5 years. Your not anything special

if your are replaced by v0 or any other basic ai code helper, your just not a great dev overall

He is a business owner first and developer second. Makes sense that he would be exited.

@@bruv1029 Exactly. He already bragged about how he does not need to hire more devs thanks to Vercel's services. lol

You misspelled HTMX.

they still exist?

If it can make a user interface then it can make a REST API or a Database. I think this means all programmers need to start thinking of AI as another tool in the toolbelt.

Yes

as a frontend developer i'm already obsolete, and was even before all this appeared.

@@buc991 In what sense are they obsolete? (genuine question, not sarcastic) BTW, I am not a frontend (I was a designer in the very old days).

Before we walk, we crawl.

Learn to prompt better. For real. Break down big and complex into smaller and simpler parts, and let your AI tools assist you at that level.

Why is that ?

@@joan.paucar why is what?

Tailwind is regular css, "absolute" is .absolute { position: absolute;}

@@SandraWantsCoke In that sense sure, yes. What I'm trying to get to is, it would be nice to be able to use this AI without tailwind. e.g. not everyone uses tailwind

All we can do is enjoy it while it lasts and be thankful we got to experience pre-prompt-engineering :)

Rely on AI, one day will be hyper productive, the next will be a wild goose chase. I’ve notice the visual aspect in ChatGPT is horrible, it codes well or misses, but the visual aspect of things are hard for it to comprehend. It doesn’t have eyes. You will learn as you correct codes. Some days you will get exact code as needed. “Not bad meaning bad, but bad meaning good” RunDMC How do you teach that to AI?

Stay in back end

Tailwind nonetheless 🤢🤢

The writer of Star Trek told people some 50 years ago, that the future is just asking for a drink and it will materialized in front of you, calling a doctor, and a holographic doctor appears in front of you healing wounds just by pointing a phone like device to a wound. They also walk around with tablets when working, and use bluetooth like devices to communicate The newer Star trek shows actually have "Adaptive interfacing", you just put your hands in front of the control panel and nanobots form around your hands, being calibrated as you move your hands to adjust sensitivity and directional range directly related to your muscles. Telling how things will be is easy, and every sci-fi writer already came up with each idea before you or me were born, it's creating the idea in real life the only thing that people *really* care about

Then again, clicking a button is faster and easier than typing "generate invoice"

@@flipperiflop It doesn't have to literally be text input. The endgame would be voice commands i guess.

@@flipperiflop and thinking it is faster than that saying it or typing it. Makes me think of the "pupil dilation click" they are building into Apple Vision

Senior are also getting replaced soon lol. People don’t realize how fast AI is improving. Do you guys not realize that once big tech companies like Google and Microsoft replace most of their developers with AI, they can become many times more worth than they are now??? Senior devs are not that much better than an average junior dev. Compared to an AI in the near future though, the AI is hundreds of times better. Senior devs are also in the same danger

changing colors and adding images is monkey work compared to everything the AI has already done

@@phillipanselmo8540 Brand is not just colors

come on use your imagination a little lol. LLM + image generation + this + 100M token context window

Yes the irony where every creative MBA is laughed at, will now be revered for "human design" , because humans often care not most about quality, but about authenticity, which AI by it's very nature cannot do. It's why you still prefer pizza in Italy instead of your non-italian local Italian restaurant, even though they look sound and smell Italian, just like chatGPT, very close. It can do the 99% but we care for the last 1% more often than the base 99%

@@xdarrenx sorry, what does MBA mean?

@@xdarrenx Great point actually

@@xdarrenx nah corporations will be using the "cutting edge authenticity models" hahaha

@@avsync-live But u have things in Italy like "DOP" or greek "feta" or french "champagne" . Tech changes, but people often don't. There will be a lot of people also lobbying for certification of proofs, that thigns are authentic, with many lawyers with their own AI army countering it.

@@nateman10 It alive but not in the same way we are. It needs to talk to get the best out of it. Get 4.0 and ask it to act as your product manager. It can make choices and give you the reasons why and even in input and come to add your input. Don't use it for coding. Use it for saving time and dining small things. And figuring out how to build apps the motions the parts.

yeah but thats why you run it through a ai that simplifys it duh

@@emeraldbonsai it is much faster to write the code yourself

@@Guccifer808 Yeah, I've noticed that Copilot mostly gets in the way, for me at least. It's still useful but in most cases ChatGPT just helps me with idea generation and not the actual code.

Agreed. That’s why it should be modular. Each box(div) or tag, can be removed or manipulated. Appending the body or deleting from the body is the way to go. Systems can handle the css inline. It’s 2023. Especially for most simple projects (which most are working on). I agree you’re hired. Guess you must learn React to fix errors or styles. I’d even go as far as including the JS in the divs , though that might get messy depending on the length. I need a team, new bees to write simple css styles for modules. Then a community shares modules. What’s left a heading that tilts? A image in a div with a paragraph and two descriptors? Look at all css frameworks (most) there’s not much there . Why because it’s simple headings, navigation , footers , buttons and forms. Divs or tags with children and there styles is all it is and has been. This hasn’t change even novelty css is not used due to screen real estate, eventually returning to the same look for most sites. Default. So best we can do is modulate. Join my army… new beees welcome. I just need divs from designers though most styles are done, a circle image left , title below, paragraph, small icons to the left, now trap it in a div , include inline css. Now the DOM can add or remove the option. JOIN MY ARMY.

What is at risk?

Explain

Plus one, I don't know what is the hype for? All white collars will be replaced in 5-10 years

@@palyanytsia Nah. Most other professions will protect themselves with regulations and laws. Only IT will be affected in the end.

That career lasts as long as it takes for the LLM to be trained on it lol

Other than that is cool because it embraces the fact that we humans are the ones that do the real work

I mean for now it's using our slow human tools. I think computing down to the hardware is going to become a black box just like a neural network

Which is pretty much the difference between junior/senior already, and is why seniors can pick up a lot of jobs already and junior's complain they can't get their foot in the door anywhere

@@xdarrenxSeniors are also not that far off from getting replaced. Compared to juniors, seniors are not THAT much more skilled. AI though will be many many many times more skilled, less bugs, cheaper, infinitely faster. Yea seniors are also going down the drain

@@Wanderer2035 This is what I hope for, it means I can replace my boss with myself and let the AI develop my company's software, since I have much cooler ideas than my boss, but I don't have the capital to pay devs myself. Free(ish) devs would be amazing

Don't worry, you won't have to debug it, the AI will. (and the horror starts setting in)

Why though so negative about tailwind? You can try it not in an existing project