That alone is a factor as to why he hasn’t been contacted for mvp vote

Hes most dominant thats why

I think perk does vote

perk voted for embiid over jokic lol

@@sobhansyed4482and that’s a problem

@@samfc23I wonder why?

@@samfc23 If not for Embiid's injury, he would have been the MVP imo, and I am a big Jokic guy that thought he should have threepeated

Is his job bro, its not surprising

From some bizarre reason on a football podcast on the same day 😮

He is the literal worst; stood in the corner waiting for his defender to leave him open for a 3 his entire career...and now wantss to lecture us on X's and O's lol

@@marshall3278just say your a casual. There’s a science on getting open at the 3

@@gabrielrojas5550 There is also a science to making a PB&J but that doesn't mean that a 5-year old couldn't do it

real ones know JJ is trying out to be a coach in Charlotte next season lmao

@@pedrosotil3232 what about lakers lol

This guy is a Jordan hater. Why is Jordan allowing this?. Does MJ no longer has any control on that team?.

@@rayleigh8 MJ sold the team fam

Huge mistake if Charlotte sign him.

LIKE FUCK DUNCAN 🤣🤣 lol na can’t do that to TIM 🦾

Except he doesn't deserve more

​@@ElevatorErnie1you're the ignorance we're referring to. 👍

@@tankeater what years did he deserve it, humor me

@@ElevatorErnie1 second year Nash won in 06 and 07 when Dirk won... Now humor me and tell me how they're better those years over KOBE. You know, an individual award without talking about their teams. HUMOR ME, because I didn't make you laugh... But you sure will make me laugh.

He took shots at Stephen Smith and Shannon Sharpe.

This is exactly what is happening now with the media as voters. They don't watch small market teams and there are definitely media members that hate on specific teams and players

I'm pretty sure the people who have votes have a criteria they would have to follow to have that vote.

@@SupaNatural28 they rly don’t

@4purs how you know? Cause they put in a criteria to where even to be eligible to win an award you have to play 65 games

@@SupaNatural28 its called agendas with their bosses. you know that all black voters put SGA over LUKA (C.broussard was the only one who voted for LUKA over SGA).

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By Shaqs logic MJ is the greatest Washington wizard of all time 😂

Depends how you look at it. History and numbers, Dwight. Shaq looks at it as he's better than Dwight (facts) therefore he was the best big man orlando ever had. Both make sense.

@@Parodyzruslmao he might be

@@Parodyzrus Wizards team so trash since the beginning of time MJ with 1 leg might just be their best guy.

MJ was the greatest wizard he averaged 30 lmao

I thought it was common knowledge that Tim Duncan's the greatest power forward of all time. The reason they probably forget about him is because there's no one else in the conversation at PF

Kobe also deserved at least one maybe both of Steve’s MVPs. I agree Tim needed at least 1/2 more MVPs but voters had fatigue because spurs were one of the most consistent teams from 2000-2014 and I think that in itself undervalued Tim’s performance throughout his career.

@@angelcanez4426 No. he was under appreciated because at one point the spurs were considered “boring.” They won by playing great defense and slow basketball. It wasn’t until 2013 when coach pop opened up the offense and they started shooting lights out from the 3. Plus they played the heat so you had your LBJ haters and then spurs were the team to cheer on to stop LBJ. Spurs went from boring to a beautiful basketball.

@@Benvyious imo it’s because it was Kobe vs timmy. If you had a poll today who had the better career, most will vote Kobe just because they are biased. Fans want the more popular guy because by the numbers, Timmy’s career was wayyy better than Kobes. Only thing Kobe has over Kobe is that he repeated and Timmy never did. How can you consider Kobe’s career better against a guy who NEVER MISSED a playoff game in his career and made the spurs the winningest sports franchise during that stretch. It’s a popularity contest. Timmy finally got his flowers with the public when the spurs went against the heat. The offense opened up when they were deadly as a team from the 3 and their amazing passes. Remember back in 2013-2014, even their passes was ESPN highlights

Ya Timmy got lots of flowers and rings

Because people want to see amazing highlights. Joker is killing everyone but because he doesn’t dunk on people, it’s always considered a “quiet” game even when the dude gets 30-10-8. He reminds me of a new age Duncan. Just goes about his business, and his team wins.

Not the case. Just ironic that a white man is dominating the league and gets all his deserved awards. “Now” it’s all about voting right lmao 🤦🏾‍♂️

Bc he Serbian

Shaq also doesn't watch games and is extremely limited in his basketball knowledge.

@@paralleluniverse99 Shaq still understands the game way more than SAS tho.

⁠@@paralleluniverse99The guy that played for 15 years has limited knowledge? I get he can be a clown sometimes but let's be serious

Alvin doesn’t even get the nba in his country

@@paralleluniverse99 bro even you dont believe this dumb sheet

Fax. Dwight was generational. (Low key)

Lol did you really just try to throw in CP3 with Dame and Melo? CP3 is another stratosphere from those guys and Dwight

Dwight should definitely be top 75 but i feel like dame the only one out of the 3 you named that we can debate shouldn't have gotten in. But howard too 50 frfr

@@HondoHoss77 Yeah, and that's while having one of the worst diets known to man. If only he had actually tried...

Dwight is not above CP3. And CP3 doesn't belong with Dame and Melo, he is significantly better than those guys.

Shaq disagrees (doesn't matter your valid point).

Also it's easier to put up impressive numbers on a trash team. If you shine on a stacked team it's more impressive, or if you are COMPLTELY carrying a team you shine too

That's what the award should be. It should be what's the team's ceiling with player X and what's their floor without them. That's how you'd ascertain their "value".

@@str8nashtygaming466 NASH would go to the bench winning by 20 and they would go down to 2 points. A couple of days ago LUKA went to the bench with the game 15-10...all of a sudden the game turn into 24-10...KYRIE was on the floor and couldnt create anything. MAVS start losing by 33 points and KYRIE starts scoring. Next game KYRIE scoreless in the 1st quarter..later MAVS are winning by 20 and Thats when KYRIE scores 16 points. SO a lot of player have their stats on trash minutes. THATS why VALUE over replacement is a great stat to show who is really valuable or not.

@@onlyfacts3178exactly how it should be because players can’t control if the organization build a good roster around them. For me it’s more impressive and more valuable a player that brings the team from the 15th seed to the playoffs than a guy who makes a 3/4 seed a first spot team, both are superstars and really good players, but one is definitely more valuable. Since the MVP is a regular season award, we can’t take into account the playoffs hence we can’t consider if a player is so valuable to his team to make them win a championship

nah

LOL of those four guys Steph is the only one to be the one to have the most lasting most wide ranging impact on the game. Those other three are top players at their position in the history of the league but Steph is that AND changing the way the game is played.

@@bumshka21 No one's saying Steph didn't deserve it. The point is that those other 3 players also deserved to be unanimous.

@@stevenclark5173 lol all this is is recency bias what of bird and kg?

as he should be lol

I would to when they give a white man my award

kobe got robbed of steve nash mvp not shaq. look it up. the yr kobe scored 81 his stats r insane MJ stats

@@mortystraphouse5077 And Kobe’s team sucked

Except that when Nash won his second mvp Shaq didn’t get a single vote. Shaq is a moron

NFL Top 100 is great. The players give other positions credit and not just glaze QBs.

@@Matthew-xl5bc Last year, the top 31 had 5 RBs and only 4 QBs. In 2023? Let’s say you argue well the list isn’t about value, it’s about best at a position. Why has Justin Tucker never even cracked the top 90 then?

YOU ARE WRONG... KAREEM was the clear MVP because he had more wins than the others (at that time missing the play-offs didnt mean you werent a TOP TEAM) it was by divisons..wich means you could have 50 wins and not make the play-offs while a team with 40 wins could make the play-offs if they were the TOP team in their divison. The rest you are correct..i cant trust someone voting who says ATLANTA is closer to the moon than CHICAGO just because he can see the moon from there and cant see CHICAGO... BUT MEDIA also is BAD...RACHEL said i dont watch WESTBROOK play but i see his stats thats why i am voting for him. AND you can go and check how many black voters put LUKA ahead of SGA...JUST 1.. THE rest only vote for black players at 1st place...some dont even put JOKIC on the TOP... SOME MEDIA is clearly BIASED towards their TOWN and TEAM and if there is a TOP player from that TEAM they will always put him ahead. THATS why you saw SGA last season finishing 5th in the MVP without making the play-offs with just 2 more wins than MAVS LUKA who didnt play LUKA to TANK in the last games . LUKA had a lot more wins than losses. SGA had more losses than WINS. BUT media still goes for TEAM WINS instead of PLAYERS wins. EMBIID got 43 wins last season...SIXERS got 54...

@@onlyfacts3178 Luka has Kyrie SGA has great players but all of them combined have less years in the league than Irving

rudy is the better defender wemby is block hungry he jumps everytime someone goes in the paint which is normal for a rookie or someone at the start of their nba career rudy is the more disciplined defender and the more skilled one for now at least

@@sxyli don't discredit the rookie bcoz he just got more blocks than rudy, how can you say he is a better defender yet wemby is better in all defensive stats than rudy? look at stocks and defensive rating when he's on the court.

Last time I checked wemby was still +1000 for dpoy as of the last month of regular season and that was mind blowing to me, said fuck it and threw a couple hundred on it in case they surprise us and name him

@@BallIsLife353332 yeah boi! let's gooo! 😂

how can you be the defensive player of the year if your team is one of the worst in defence? NO DPOY has ever missed the play-offs... MANUTE BOL leade the league in BLOCKS 5 per game as a ROOKIE (He made the play.offs and still didnt get the DPOY)

In the case of Wemby vs Gobert, it’s actually simple. Imagine having 3-4 defensive stars around you making your life immeasurably easier versus a guy out there playing 1v5. That second dude should not have better defensive stats, since it’s that much easier for the opposing team to avoid one single guy. Yet…Wemby was better and did it all himself.

@@danielpenrodii2389 hence me saying it can be tricky and SOMETIMES not all the times. Have to use critical thinking and be objective because not all situations and circumstances are the same.

I think it should be a mix of head coaches, GM's and media.

I don't think any MVP has ever been voted for much less selected when their team has fewer than 40 wins, much less 20 lol

Basically, skin color lol. And this is coming from a non white person. I've noticed a bit of prejudice in a lot of nba media. The black Americans don't like players that play differently from the black American archetype

Shaq is a very weird Luka hater. When Luka hit that step back game winner in the playoffs vs the clippers in his second season Shaq literally said he was not impressed by Luka and that he seen that before oh and btw Luka dropped a 40pt triple double that game as well. It’s clear as day that Shaq hates Luka. Idk why though

Way more points than Jokic (32 v 26). Similar advanced stats (though much higher relative to position), clutch points, more game takeovers. Jokic is a great player, but don't say there is isn't a very strong argument for SGA.

@@occultsymbolsthis is just a blatant lie cos you’re emotional. I’m a Luka and Mavs fan and don’t see it like that. He doesn’t need to bow down and kiss Lukas feet everytime to prove to you that he likes him, he’s said he’s a great player multiple times and complimented him. Also outside of hoop Luka be hosting him in Slovenia

@@joshb.1118 way more isolation possessions than jokic. Why do ppl give iso scorers more credit than players who move the ball around to their teammates?

The MVP was never the best player. If it was, from 1970-2020, the only MVPs would have been Kareem, Magic, Bird, MJ, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan and LeBron

It's the "who had the most impressive season" award. So the best player might not always have his best season.

It's never been the Best Player award. If it was LeBron would have 8 awards. It used to be the "Whoever is the best player on the best team" award. But I kind of see what you're saying in the sense that narrative seems even more important than it was

@@hardwoodthought1213 I think Malone still would have won it in 99.

@@MistyKathrine Nah. Duncan won a title and was even that season just marginally worse as a scorer (not saying career or anything just that season) whilst being the superior defender and passer.

Except that when they did this for all star the players voted for themselves

That’s true, Shaq doesn’t have a lot of sense, but he’s got enough to not diss Ernie

LOL you remember when they tried this for all star and players mostly voted for themselves? maybe the media could vote to whom is selected and then the cohort you mentioned could vote to decide akin to the oscars but the media members are current with the game

lol no way they bring on a rookie coach with no experience for a bron team he'd want someone proven lol you remember walton?