What if the MCU Was As Poorly Structured as the DCEU?

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It’s been five years since the Infinity Saga came to an end and it’s already quite clear that since then the MCU hasn’t had as good of a structure to it’s releases or even as good a consistency of quality. That being said, it could definitely be worse, specifically, the MCU could’ve had the structure and average quality of the DCEU. In the past I looked at what the DCEU would’ve looked like if it had the MCU’s structure, this time around I’ll be doing the opposite, seeing what the MCU would look like if it was as inconsistent and as messy as the DCEU. This is something I did a few years ago but that video desperately needs an update both because of it’s quality and because the DCEU has since had a few more releases and has since been capped off as well.
00:00 - Intro
0:47 - Counterparts
2:19 - 2013
3:33 - 2014
4:23 - 2016
10:20 - 2017
12:21 - 2018
12:48 - 2019
13:43 - 2020
15:39 - 2021
17:02 - 2022
20:23 - 2023
25:37 - 2024 and beyond
25:55 - The Cancelled projects

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@Rav_Ram 2 ай бұрын

It really puts into perspective how fucked it was, civil war being the second movie and like half the planned movies being canceled

@cybercrasherstv 2 ай бұрын

And people say irl civil war wasn't done at the right time, so this universe's discourse on the meu would be even worse. And keep in mind, civil war was one of the most recent comics when iron man came out, it was a gamble comic book fans even liked him anymore. Having that story be butchered like that when everyone just saw it would be a disaster we really haven't seen in a good while

@claycrawford7 2 ай бұрын

Looking at that original announcement graphic is hilarious. Especially cause people forget they also did at like a company stockholders meeting and not like a movie convention, even though Disney was already doing slate announcements

@Rav_Ram 2 ай бұрын

@claycrawford7 I remember seeing that graphic when it came out and I was like "a cyborg movie? Really?"not to mention the cw flash show premiered AND ended between that announcement and the movie finally coming out.

@claycrawford7 2 ай бұрын

@@Rav_Ram I wish there was a full slate of whatever they had planned during 2020, cause I guess they were just basing everything around Keaton and it’s kind of a miracle they green lit a Blue Beetle movie as well.

@night6724 2 ай бұрын

Except BvS and civil war are nothing alike besides two heroes fighting First of all, do we need ANOTHER goddamn Batman origin movie? People lost their shit just at the OPENING credits of the Wayne’s deaths. Second, this wasn’t about an emotional struggle of two friends. It was about a fallen hero in Batman becoming paranoid about a potential threat in Superman. Like we don’t need a Batman movie to tell us Robin is dead and he’s upset. If LOTR came out today you’d say “why didn’t we get a stand alone Gimlee and Legolas film?

@AintNoWaye 2 ай бұрын

Warner Bros letting Snyder run DC will haunt them for centuries

@AintNoWaye 2 ай бұрын

like how hard is it to stick to comics, make structured built up movies, send your shows to max/netflix etc

@omega9270 2 ай бұрын

That's the thing, he never ran it 💀💀 I don't know what random twitter mf came up with that but if he ran DC he would've made the Extended cut of BVS the theatrical version, and would've made Justice League II parts if he didn't leave.

@jonathanhill3668 2 ай бұрын

@@omega9270he was the creative leader behind the universe. They basically gave him the keys

@AintNoWaye 2 ай бұрын

@@omega9270 a batman superman movie being dark and 3-4 hrs long is a mistake in the first place?

@rbleaks818 2 ай бұрын

WB hiring a director to helm a universe who has NO intention to make a cinematic universe but only five movies with an extremely limited vision caused the DCEU to full reboot

@ptcarbonproductions2013 2 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="377">6:17</a> Zemo's plan should totally include mixing his DNA with Red Skull's body to create Red Onslaught.

@mr.knightthedetective7435 2 ай бұрын

Holy shit that sounds bizarre but kinda badass at the same time LMAO

@captaineri.223 2 ай бұрын

A Marvel Mutant Character?

@night6724 2 ай бұрын

@@mr.knightthedetective7435Why are people against how Doomsday was created in BvS when JLTAS literally had Cadmas create doomsday by cloning Superman?

@ironmaster6496 2 ай бұрын

what? but that's not even remotely close to how Onslaught was crea oooooh

@night6724 2 ай бұрын

@@ironmaster6496 Right because Doomsday’s origin was being grown in a lab by Cadmus. No wait, he was a genetically altered ancestor of Zod. Hold on no it a clone of superman.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1328">22:08</a> I love how the best example of Benedict Cumberbatch's insane antics was him taking a silly selfie. No child literally biting a bullet. No trying to "recruit" an underage girl. Just going on his balcony and facetiming his kid with a silly face. And that gets plastered all over the National Enquirer.

@Nobody44112 2 ай бұрын

i like to imagine in that universe people are very stingy when it comes to being too wacky and quirky

@Neonvolendam 2 ай бұрын

Thousands of moviegoers would boycott Doctor Strange because Benedict's selfie was just too silly.

@Finamajig 2 ай бұрын

@@Neonvolendam Benedict Cumberbatch blacklisted for being too silly

@RTU130 2 ай бұрын

True

@vcom741 28 күн бұрын

Cumberbatch did have tinsiest controversies, but nothing too major lol.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

"A young street rat named Kamala Khan" Okay.... okay now i get why people hate Birds of Prey. I would be livid too.

@cantaloupegodling352 2 ай бұрын

It's really not a fair comparison. Cassandra Cain is a great character, one of my faves of the Batfam, but she's a Batgirl and not even the most well known one. They were never gonna do a Cassie Batgirl. Plus, the hate was completely unwarranted anyway because aside from that one bad character pick the movie is phenomenal. The amazingly shot action alone makes it a top tier superhero film.

@tonythehappynerd7241 2 ай бұрын

In fairness, while it could’ve been more faithful to its source material, Birds Of Prey was a very good movie, and was an improvement over Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad

@arcats9004 2 ай бұрын

@@cantaloupegodling352 understandable, but consider that the assassin backstory is cooler

@darkmyro Ай бұрын

Cassandra cain in the comics: mute assassin that later joins the bat family as a new batgirl thats tough as nails and not afraid to kill in order to fight her father in a bat suit that has no mouth opening since she cant talk Cassandra cain in the movie: petty thief who becomes a sort of a protege the Harley Quinn and swallows a diamond and is basically kind of a McGuffin in the movie for an extended poop joke and wears everyday clothing you decide who's cooler I mean I enjoyed the movie, but they could of named that kid anything else and it would have changed literally nothing in the film. Heck they could have genderbent a robin and it would have been better received. The fact that they named her after a cool character they were most likely never gonna do the cool thing with them added so much baggage to the movie that it really didn't need from fans.

@stellarremnant3597 Ай бұрын

@@cantaloupegodling352 That is still no excuse for them to butcher such a badass character. They could’ve just used a different character or even made up a new one but nope they took a character with an established backstory and perfect design and ruined them completely. The Kamala Khan comparison works perfectly.

@user-xz3pb3dt2u 2 ай бұрын

I think i can understand why Gunn reset the entire universe now....

@Freakcheeks Ай бұрын

Only now?

@ichadpromax Ай бұрын

Yeah. So he can ruin it himself

@AWSOMzombie Ай бұрын

@@ichadpromaxyou know he's the same guy that the made guardians of the galaxy trilogy right?

@kirbattaquesmash5055 Ай бұрын

The dude has a Trump pp do you think he can understand something so simple @@AWSOMzombie

@trickster80 Ай бұрын

@@ichadpromax Yeah man i'm pretty sure it was already ruined before Gunn came on

@Bstroz32 2 ай бұрын

Holy hell you realize how bad DC fumbled their attempt at a cinematic universe when you get to all the cancelled projects at the end😂😂

@XDarksoulX1129 2 ай бұрын

You see how bad it is just from seeing how bad the MCU really could've been

@brunowillich1837 Ай бұрын

Just goes to show you should NOT announce a whole lineup of movies. Keep your cards hidden for a while, see if people like what you're doing.

@SecretMagician Ай бұрын

@brunowillich1837, just like what James Gunn is doing now. Ever since 2022, the only new projects we've gotten announcements for since are the Arkham Asylum series, a Teen Titans movie, and recently a Blue Beetle cartoon.

@starrsmith3810 26 күн бұрын

Cyborg. Just Cyborg. I’m still mad.

@ThePonderer 2 ай бұрын

Bro came for Snyder’s neck and I can’t say he’s wrong.

@_MECHA_ 2 ай бұрын

He is...only on the man of steel part

@night6724 2 ай бұрын

except this video is a straw man

@RTU130 2 ай бұрын

@Brams2777 2 ай бұрын

And Ayer lol

@nicholasaugello2534 2 ай бұрын

@@night6724calling an entire 26 minute video a straw man is crazy when you don't even explain why it is

@shanerulez79 2 ай бұрын

The Wolverine should be staring Daniel Radcliffe who no one thought was a good fit for the role but everyone loved after seeing the movie 😂

@binho61717 2 ай бұрын

I Would've Cast Henry Cavil (Kinda Fits)

@shanerulez79 2 ай бұрын

@binho61717 I was going for the Harry Potter kid becomes Wolverine, sort of like how the Twilight kid became The Batman

@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын

Isn't Daniel Radcliffe also kinda short too? Even better!

@shanerulez79 2 ай бұрын

@BrendanJSmith short and hairy 😆 that's why she's a popular fan cast

@starrsmith3810 26 күн бұрын

So basically just like RDJ as Iron Man and Heath Ledger as Joker?

@jonahrk_rider3602 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for season 2 of My adventures with Captain America it a really good show.

@TheBlackLion001 2 ай бұрын

Young Avengers and Avengers Unlimited are some of my favorite shows ever

@binho61717 2 ай бұрын

There's Also The Avengers Secret Wars Trilogy Which Is Ending The Out Of His Time-Verse (They Acctually Killed Off Doctor Strange In Part One)

@PhineasMoeller Ай бұрын

I'd call it "The Adventures Of Captain America And Bucky" But that Buckys perspective.

@PhineasMoeller Ай бұрын

@@TheBlackLion001 My Favorite Is Spider-Man the Animated Series. The same guy voiced him in the Spider-Man Ravencroft games. Really did him dirty in Thunderbolts Kill The Avengers.

@adora_was_taken Ай бұрын

they really nailed the character of captain america in that. it's such a shame super soldier ruined everyone's view of him

@augustusabram8689 2 ай бұрын

One of these days you’re gonna make a video called “What If the MCU was structured like the Arrowverse?”.

@theinsurance2450 2 ай бұрын

How would do a movie series with a show series?

@marcelinovazquez5128 2 ай бұрын

@@theinsurance2450Aside from using the movies that exist maybe borrow some comic storylines that are closely similar to each season of the Arrowverse respectively. Like how Arrow Season 6 had their version of the Longbow Hunters (I know they weren't called the Longbow Hunters and that was a different team but they're more similar and has bigger roles than the actual Longbow Hunters) a potential Captain America Season 6 could use the Serpent Society. Or the Secret Empire storyline could be their version of the 9th Circle from Arrow Season 7. Or if Iron Man is the counterpart to the Flash in this scenario the Demon in a Bottle storyline could be used in place of Flashpoint since it dealt with the characters trauma.

@connorbrazington-lang2401 2 ай бұрын

I would like that.

@personalover249 2 ай бұрын

If you want to use the same character counterparts from this video Arrow: Daredevil Supergirl: Captain Carter The Flash: Doctor Strange Legends of Tomorrow: Exiles Black Lightning: Luke Cage Batwoman: Ironheart

@marcelinovazquez5128 2 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention the KZfaqr MrEliMac actually did a series on that topic and it's pretty. I recommend checking especially Black Lion never does this topic himself

@LucianoIannotti-ik4md 2 ай бұрын

“The Rhinos” got me dying 🤣🤣🤣

@JustavocomJ 2 ай бұрын

I didn't get the reference

@LucianoIannotti-ik4md 2 ай бұрын

@JustavocomJ They were thinking of making a spin-off of Aquaman about the trench creatures

@JustavocomJ 2 ай бұрын

@@LucianoIannotti-ik4md oh yeah i forgot that shit

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

Then an unrelated action movie sequel based on a novel starring Jason Statham comes out named "Sabretooth 2: The Rhinos"

@juliancaraveo5700 2 ай бұрын

I AM THE RHINOOO !!!! - The Rhino from The Amazing Spiderman 2

@mr_a_dawg 2 ай бұрын

We all know the real reason why you picked a Wolverine movie as an equivalent to the Batman and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine as an equivalent to Keaton's Batman: Wolverine's cowl looks like 2 Batmen kissing.

@goldenfiberwheat238 2 ай бұрын

Why man kissing? Is he gay? Why is he cheating on jonkler?

@mr_a_dawg 2 ай бұрын

@@goldenfiberwheat238 if you look at Wolverine’s cowl for quite some time, it looks like 2 Batman kissing

@goldenfiberwheat238 2 ай бұрын

@@mr_a_dawg oh I guess you aren’t into Arkham community jokes

@sgtroach1510 2 ай бұрын

@@mr_a_dawgis there a lore reason why?

@AzumarillConGafasBv 2 ай бұрын

@@mr_a_dawgis he stupid

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

I'd like to think that in this universe, Tom Hardy pissed in bottles on the set of Mad Max: Fury Road and insisted on staying at a five star hotel in the city, arriving to set in the desert six or seven hours late. Instead of feuding with Charlize Theron, he feuds with George Miller, and gets a bad reputation in Hollywood despite being a massive box office draw, which crumbles when his Venom film is released and it flops. Meanwhile, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson never shaves his head, spends less time in the gym, and thus achieves his true acting power. He is cast in a Sony-produced Black Adam film (with no Shazam) that does amazingly well off the back of Justice League: The Anti-Life War.

@Neonvolendam 2 ай бұрын

But then everything goes to shit once Sony makes "Doctor Sivana" starring Christian Bale, but without Shazam. The movie is a financial disaster and an online laughing stock for months. However, Sony proceeds to make "Lady Blaze", which also turns out to be a huge flop.

@jamesthanoob 2 ай бұрын

The idea of Tom Hardy insisting that Venom will chamge the heirarchy of power in the Marvel Universe is really funny for no reason

@personalover249 2 ай бұрын

*Justice League: Apokolips War, watch the other video

@mikejeffries3333 2 ай бұрын

Now that you say that, I think, if anything, Morbius would have been a better equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it: >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?

@personalover249 2 ай бұрын

@@mikejeffries3333 I get all this but it had to be Venom because Spider-Man is the Shazam equivalent, so the Black Adam equivalent has to be a major Spider-Man villain who got their own movie, ergo Venom as he is the "evil" Spider-Man like how Black Adam is the "evil" Shazam

@sir_ivar Ай бұрын

okay i didnt realize that the dceu was this messed up☠☠

@TheVladMan. Ай бұрын

The DCEU should’ve ended after Justice League came out and flopped hard.

@Ringohulk777 2 ай бұрын

The non existence of Hulk in this hypothetical, while completely accurate and sensible, infuriates me.

@KittyPieVibes 29 күн бұрын

Who is Hulk supposed to represent?

@DukasFiguliras 29 күн бұрын

@@KittyPieVibes martian manhunter maybe? They're both green and strong

@SecretMagician 26 күн бұрын

@@KittyPieVibeshe did say that Hulk represents Green Lantern who barely appeared with one alien getting killed by Steppenwolf/Darkseid and a cut appearance by John Stewart's Green Lantern in Zack Snyder's Justice League. So Bruce Banner/Hulk wouldn't physically appear himself but Red Hulk and A-Bomb would appear but not the actual Hulk, just like the real DCEU did.

@CJDrewlan 2 ай бұрын

Eddie brock totally should’ve been played by The Rock still in this fictional universe

@anubusx 2 ай бұрын

Damn even the teachers would be scared of him.

@averythesuperhero 2 ай бұрын

The Brock

@genericusername3518 Ай бұрын

Or Tom Hardy plays Eddie but the Rock voices Venom

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1465">24:25</a> It should be X-23. Ironheart would be the closest to actual Batgirl. But to stick with the lower budget, the super team, the legacy actor as the mentor, gotta be X-23.

@IllusionMaster17 2 ай бұрын

DCEU is the perfect example of how not to structure a media Universe. The awful ammount of bad decisions they took and way to address movies' order is sickening. I'm so glad that at least the MCU was much better in arranging their projects. Because REALLY, just this video made me imagine things I couldn't ever get over with.

@flasheditz1_ 2 ай бұрын

Make a Marvel version of the Arrowverse

@lucasroque754 2 ай бұрын

I second that

@spiderbat9957 2 ай бұрын

I third that

@aarondx3764 2 ай бұрын

I fourth that

@user-og6ws8ux8d 2 ай бұрын

I fifth that

@Mugshot_Productions 2 ай бұрын

I sixth that

@humberto022 2 ай бұрын

thank god we dont live in a universe where that actually happened.

@bolt7047 5 күн бұрын

Agree, I am glad the MCU is so successful

@KaijuofSteel 2 ай бұрын

The Tom Hardy analogy of The Rock was so funny and so true, trying to turn a B List villain into an A List antihero that doesn't want anything to do with his hero counterpart

@zeno3353 Ай бұрын

Heeeey, Venom isn’t B-List. He’s, like…. A- -List. At least B+-List.

@starrsmith3810 26 күн бұрын

I partly blame The Rock for Shazam 2 failing for real. Because Black Adam is a Shazam villain. Not a Superman villain and he sure as hell ain’t no anti-hero. It probably doesn’t make someone particularly wanna see Shazam 2 when the movie about his biggest rival probably has an actor that wants nothing to do with it.

@SecretMagician 26 күн бұрын

@starrsmith3810 Before the whole Dwayne Johnson issue, I genuinely thought that Shazam 2 would be about Dr. Sivana and Mr. Mind summoning Black Adam to fight the Shazamily and the Black Adam movie would be about his origin story, how he got his powers, releasing the Seven Deadly Sins and being sent to another dimension by the Wizard. I'm pretty sure that WAS the plan until Dwayne got his greedy mitts over it and started being demanding.

@Muicheerio 2 ай бұрын

I’m so glad the mcu was structured as it was

@EduardoGarcia-ph4jj 2 ай бұрын

And thats the universe where halloween was full of elektra costumes

@jpyanity443 2 ай бұрын

I know you said you stuck with the Peacemaker plot because it’s all original so it’s not DC dependent but since it’s a Marvel equivalent I can’t help but point out how well the Skrulls would fit, being aliens who can impersonate anyone

@wickedchild8501 Ай бұрын

"the hierarchy of power of Marvel is about to change" unironically sounds like smt Sony would say to distribute its movies

@concept5631 Ай бұрын

And then fail spectacularly.

@daniel_kb3434 2 ай бұрын

Really love these types of alternate history videos, was a very fun watch great job black lion

@youssefmesrati340 2 ай бұрын

Day 3 of asking to make the Power rangers reboot into a cinematic universe with the structure of the mcu

@G0LDMUS_PRIME 2 ай бұрын

Now that's a good idea

@_Micah_Bell 2 ай бұрын

yes that is what need

@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 2 ай бұрын

That'd be cool

@mr.knightthedetective7435 2 ай бұрын

That would be crazy, you would have to make each individual Ranger unique and set apart from the other by giving them unique gimmicks on top of other things

@LiMe251 2 ай бұрын

Or it would be team-based @@mr.knightthedetective7435

@elius1548 2 ай бұрын

This was the most incomprehensible video I’ve seen in a while. I mean this as a compliment, you really made a strong point about the DCEU

@Beezle66 2 ай бұрын

This was STRESSFUL

@nathaniel201 2 ай бұрын

Blue Beetle was such a weird anomaly that I had to pause the video to think really hard about what Ghost Rider was a counterpart to. As someone who's always been more familiar with Marvel than DC, having Cull Obsidian be the main villain of the Avengers really puts into focus how wild it was that Steppenwolf was carrying the whole Justice League event. Is it weird that I actually kind of like the opening premise of this universe's Civil War (Captain America finding a darker Iron Man vigilante)? The Civil War we actually got never felt like anyone was really at risk of dying and this would have some weight to it. It could be a fun What If episode at least (although obviously dumb for the main movie).

@kingofhearts3185 2 ай бұрын

The set up for his civil war movie makes more sense than the actual BvS conflict.

@gavrilosinaga 2 ай бұрын

That's because the stakes of Captain America: Civil War IRL is less about life & death but more about the team's internal division...

@wickedchild8501 Ай бұрын

Just look at the surnames: Jaime Reyes, Robbie Reyes...

@VDOTU5 2 ай бұрын

"Thor: Love & Thunder also caused controversy due to Jane being resurrected in some random, unamed woman. That woman, while unconscious, was used for a night of passion between Thor and Jane. Ultimately, r-wording her which was never addressed in the movie. The writers and director were never allowed to work in mainstream entertainment ever again".

@concept5631 Ай бұрын

Did that last sentence actually happen irl with WW84?

@VDOTU5 Ай бұрын

@@concept5631 Nope. They are a-ok.

@fabiocxx 2 ай бұрын

I think a female group movie with Deadpool would be very on brand, at least Ryan Reynolds Deadpool

@IronLug 2 ай бұрын

Lady Deadpool

@astraltophat_at Ай бұрын

also gwenpool is a thing but i think she's a bit to obscure

@codey9 Ай бұрын

Definitely

@arthurg.calixto3338 25 күн бұрын

@@astraltophat_at Not nowadays. Only reason she's obscure is because she's not marketed outside of the internet enough

@damarioncoleman6226 2 ай бұрын

I would love to see a video where you do a Marvel Movie Universe where marvel owned all their characters but it doesn’t follow the MCU structure which means iron man, captain America, Spider-Man, x men, and fantastic four and more all have trilogys, you can have tv series and movies at the same time like Hawkeye or Daredevil series during phase 2. And you can go pass 22 films in phase 1-3. Shung Chi, Black Panther and Captain Marvel can appear earlier in the universe.

@LucasHopkins2006 2 ай бұрын

I’d really like to see what he would come up with for that, along with one like it for DC

@anonymousguy7005 2 ай бұрын

Like this comment so he can see this

@lucasroque754 2 ай бұрын

He already did that

@theeggalorianstudios8680 2 ай бұрын

that would be awesome

@personalover249 2 ай бұрын

He did it for the Infinity Saga, but not Multiverse

@trinstonmichaels7062 Ай бұрын

It's amazing how well the first Three phase of the mcu were.

@concept5631 Ай бұрын

Honestly

@marvelking28-mr5mj 2 ай бұрын

I made my own version of this a few months ago. Captain America: The First Avenger Captain America: Civil War Thunderbolts Thor The Avengers Namor Captain Marvel A-Force Thor 2 The Thunderbolts US Agent Doctor Doom Captain Marvel: Space Race Quicksilver Spider-Man Namor 2

@marvelking28-mr5mj 2 ай бұрын

It is actually scary how similar this is

@Dave102693 2 ай бұрын

@@marvelking28-mr5mjikr?

@mrspiderman3188 Ай бұрын

I feel like the Peacemaker show should have been a Deadpool show.

@user-fh6mc9du5n Ай бұрын

And sanity has left the building.

@personalover249 26 күн бұрын

Funnily enough it was in the original, Deadpool was the Peacemaker counterpart for The Thunderbolts and he got his own show, with Colossus being the Vigilante counterpart

@Rmcrace2319 2 ай бұрын

As someone who is a die hard Marvel/MCU fan, and a casual DC/DCEU fan, this video really put into perspective just how bad the DCEU really was. I absolutely loved The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, the Flash, and Shazam, but that’s really it. This was a fantastic video and I’m glad I finally understand what it was like for DC fans

@LucasHopkins2006 2 ай бұрын

Ok, don’t care what Snyder fanboys/people who don’t understand Superman are gonna say to me for this, the digs at Superman’s characterization through Cap was kinda funny to me (edit:make that digs towards many of the DCEU’s weird or dumb decisions, still funny)

@_MECHA_ 2 ай бұрын

I love man of steel. Sydner on the other hand...? eh..... Not all people who like man of steel "don't understand superman"

@LucasHopkins2006 2 ай бұрын

@@_MECHA_ I never said people who like Man of Steel don’t understand Superman, I like it myself, I just said Snyder fanboys at the same time as that cause with the fans of his that defend the stuff he did for DC (all while probably acting like Gunn is terrible for DC and the DCU’s doomed when we haven’t even gotten to it yet) like their lives depend on it, it just feels like at least some of them fall into that category, but not all

@_MECHA_ 2 ай бұрын

@@LucasHopkins2006 oh. Sorry I misunderstood you.

@LucasHopkins2006 2 ай бұрын

@@_MECHA_ No worries, probably should’ve made that more clear myself from the get go

@_MECHA_ 2 ай бұрын

@@LucasHopkins2006 it's alright

@rosewoodsoundradio 2 ай бұрын

The Thunderbolts roster in either movie sounds infinitely more interesting than the real life version lol The rebooted MCU is way better than the actual DCU lineup too

@chavotoons 2 ай бұрын

Don't forger for the doctor strange movie the controversial desicion of having a CGI cameo of Bill Bixby (70s Bruce Banner) and a scene based on a cancelled movie. or maybe a cameo of Captain America from the 1940s serials.

@hifive789 2 ай бұрын

And of course, there were the Devilverse shows: Devil - Ran for 8 seasons Doctor Strange - Ran for 9 seasons Scarlet Witch - Ran for 1 season Iron Heart - Ran for 6 seasons Legends of Tomorrow - Ran for 7 seasons Storm - Ran for 4 seasons Captain Britain - Ran for 3 seasons Kitty Pride - Ran for 3 seasons Iron Man & Potts - Ran for 4 seasons

@binho61717 Ай бұрын

My Version: Daredevil (2012-2020) Quicksilver (2014-2023) Spider-Man Miles Morales (2015-2021) Marvel's Future Foundation (2015-2022) Ironheart (2019-2022) Spider-man and Mj (2021-2024) Armor Wars (2023-2023) Animated Shows: Black Pather (I Don't Know) Thunderbolts (2017-2018) Crossover Events Daredevil vs. Quicksilver Heroes Join Forces World's Finest Secret Invasion Civil War What if Secret Wars House Of M

@julianm.b6397 2 ай бұрын

Now I want Matt Reeves "The Wolverine"

@mdh16off59 26 күн бұрын

Start taron egerton

@personalover249 19 күн бұрын

@@mdh16off59You, keep cooking

@mdh16off59 19 күн бұрын

@@personalover249 for sure

@supamillienp Ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="446">7:26</a> "What are we, some sort of The Thunderbolts?"

@Whyyoulooking45 2 ай бұрын

Bro a Doctor Doom movie…imagine it being nominated for an Oscar

@ernestorivas3764 2 ай бұрын

If Joker talks about depression and society; what would this alternate timeline "Doctor Doom" movie talk about.

@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын

@@ernestorivas3764Probably a bunch of political jargon. He's the dictator of his own country.

@PhineasMoeller Ай бұрын

And the sequel is a pseudo-musical? I'd watch that.

@autisticbuckfan 2 ай бұрын

As a non DC fan this really puts into perspective how bad the DCEU was 😭

@jorginator8524 2 ай бұрын

I always thought that it would make more sense if spiderman no way home was the equivalent of the flash, basically being the first spider-man movie in the MEU and also having the task to reboot the whole thing

@kwproductions6737 2 ай бұрын

Time traveller moves a chair The timeline

@HerbCoswellBornAgain 2 ай бұрын

X-23 is the Batgirl equivalent (or was) because the original plan would be to bring Hugh Jackman Wolverine (and presumably by extension the rest of the Fox X-Men) into the MEU, and in place of Wakanda Forever, we could have it's equivalent could be a proper Cap sequel so at least this universe can come full circle.

@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew Ай бұрын

I can hear the Snyderbro crowd marching with their torches and pitchforks in the distance.

@jamesplayzreviews 2 ай бұрын

"And the fight everyone has always wanted to happen: Captain America vs. Venom is finally teased" I know this is like a creative/fun thing but to be real, if Captain America did fight Venom, he'd likely just barely hold his own against him if not get absolutely destroyed.

@SuperBatSpider 2 ай бұрын

I think Captain America would win. The captain would pull through with pure determination.

@jamesplayzreviews 2 ай бұрын

@@SuperBatSpider Yeah but Venom is the come back king. For pete's sake, he fought his fricking creator. Someone who was said (before he did die) to be impossible to kill and be able to kill anyone in the Marvel universe. Someone who wiped out Sentry so easily it hurt all the Sentry fans that exist. Only way I can see Captain America winning that battle is if he had Mjolnir and even then that's only because of lightning creating fire.

@SuperBatSpider 2 ай бұрын

@@jamesplayzreviews Yeah. Venom is definitely coming back, but Cap is probably gonna win the first match and as he’s a legendary hero he’s definitely at least not getting killed by Venom. I could see him losing a rematch though.

@StarkMaximum Ай бұрын

Venom vs Cap is a difficult fight to sell because both characters are very popular for very different reasons. No matter who wins, a significant portion of the fanbase is upset. It would _have_ to be a standoff and I can only hope it would be a cool one where both parties still feel like they're fighting their best but evenly matched and not a pissy one where it's clear they're both pulling punches because corporate can't let one of them win.

@user-iw5kc1oq8i 2 ай бұрын

would been funnier if it was the rock who played venom

@user-oz3um2ii7o 2 ай бұрын

The Brock

@marianomartinez3008 2 ай бұрын

I forgive you Kevin Feige😧

@mikedrewson5545 2 ай бұрын

You should do a remake of your video where you structure the MCU if they have all their rights.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 ай бұрын

With Feige at the helm, I don't think it'd be that different initially. Some X-Men and Spidey sprinkled in there, but not too much because there'd already have been 4 and 3 movies respectively. The big difference I think would be kicking off with a new Fantastic Four. But it would probably diverge big time in Phase 3.

@marianomartinez3008 2 ай бұрын

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ciwil War like comics, with Peter releved his indentify to finish in One More Day😧

@user-fh6mc9du5n Ай бұрын

Now there's a video I'd love to watch.

@bradyduzeski7412 2 ай бұрын

I love the switch up of Joss Wedon and Zach Snyder, definitely makes sense for this universe lol Also Benedict Cumberbatch being crazy is hilarious lol

@Monkey_Boy9602 2 ай бұрын

It's absolutely depressing that in both realities we will never see the Thunderbolts real origin played out in live action. Why skip over the best part of the story just so we can have Marvel's Suicide Squad?

@davemustang8173 Ай бұрын

This really puts into perspective the difference of Marvel planning a decade of movies in advance versus slapping together a shitty copy over a weekend

@akwilson1676 2 ай бұрын

This is comedic gold.

@zombiefiedjem5113 14 күн бұрын

Honestly, that lineup for the MCU near the end looks really cool for a legitimate reboot to the MCU

@elcorvo4108 2 ай бұрын

Nah, It should be just Super Soldier, no Captain America, like Man of Steel (JK cool video)

@binho61717 2 ай бұрын

I Would've Name It The Man Out Of His Time

@user-fh6mc9du5n Ай бұрын

I could see that being a way better title for that movie.

@touchstonefan0348 2 ай бұрын

Chris Evans shot alternate endings for The Flash movie appearing as Cap. However they got cut and replaced with Dougray Scott as Logan, with Strange asking WTF?! For those who may not know. Scott was originally cast as Logan for X-Men but left due to Mission Impossible 2 having reshoots. So Hugh got it thankfully. Best I could do with replacing the Clooney cameo with something Wolverine related 🤣

@kiwi_arms 2 ай бұрын

i'm obsessede with this timeline's equivalent of dc's huge black adam push, where there's a huge comic event that ends with venom giving EVERY superhero a symbiote to fight the event's villain (who is, inexplicably, mister sinister)

@TheBlackLion001 2 ай бұрын

Dark Secret Wars

@ethancadge2102 2 ай бұрын

Funny thing is that this is probably still better written them the DCEU

@TheVladMan. Ай бұрын

Captain America: “It’s been a while since anyone’s made the world this nervous. Venom, we need to talk.”

@DougieYT 2 ай бұрын

Snyder turned nearly every DC Character into an edgy carbon copy of Bruce Wayne.

@fishmobsmovietv514 2 ай бұрын

You forgot, they were also planning on a Harley Quinn vs The joker movie, so we also needed a canceled Electra vs kingpin movie.

@ulises4241 Ай бұрын

Every so often i forget what type of video i was watching and i was like 'thats so dumb why would you make that decision' until i realise. oh, this is...this is what DC/warner bros did irl

@Miunim 2 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="199">3:19</a> I have a strong urge to post this part on Twitter without context just to see how people react

@starset4life175 2 ай бұрын

Now what if the Monsterverse was structured like the MCU?

@PhineasMoeller Ай бұрын

And I... Am... Godzilla.

@concept5631 Ай бұрын

Interesting

@Uulfinn 2 ай бұрын

One of the worst decisions was having doomsday and the death of superman before the justice league movie. There were a ton of terrible decisions with the dceu.

@Gregsus12345 15 күн бұрын

time traveller: breathes in the wrong direction the timeline:

@mikejeffries3333 2 ай бұрын

Okay, hear me out: while I loved almost everything about this video, instead of "Venom," I think we should have gotten "Morbius," starring Jared Leto as the equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it: >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?

@user-fh6mc9du5n Ай бұрын

BURN.

@tristan5502 2 ай бұрын

This is the kind way to say "hey dceu! You suck!"

@DarianGunawan-ry4fj 2 ай бұрын

"The Rhinos" made me laugh my ass off lmaoooo a movie about rhinos

@somebuddyX 27 күн бұрын

This video was great! I really loved your snarkiness and ruthlessness and I thought it was pretty comedic and had a great concept that was really well thought out! I seriously had a lot of fun listening to this today!

@EsihleMadi 2 ай бұрын

Iv been waiting for this,thank u

@andm9766 2 ай бұрын

If it was really like the DCEU I feel Thor would’ve came in during civil war to show the trinity and it would’ve had to be a stronger villain who appears like doomsday which is one of Superman’s strongest

@danielmonteiro9942 2 ай бұрын

Oh, I see what you (probably) didn't making Natalie Portman the catalyst for Joss Whedon's downfall during The Avengers' production. Well played.

@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын

Explain?

@danielmonteiro9942 2 ай бұрын

@@BrendanJSmith Well, taking that Gal Gadot (of all people) denounced Whedon for his very gross behavior with her during Josstice League's production, I think that, here, Natalie Portman, or, most probably, Scarlett Johansson, would denounce Whedon and that's the conflict that would bring in Zack Snyder and The Snygers. Though Marvel fans would have to be content with having the Frankenstein that the original movie is, because, well, let's just say, its the closest thing they'll get from an Avengers movie until Gunn really kicks in the MU.

@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын

@@danielmonteiro9942 But in real life, Zack Snyder never had any negative claims made against him. So you're not even making any sense.

@danielmonteiro9942 2 ай бұрын

@@BrendanJSmith It's to not kill anyone in the Whedon family.

@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын

@@danielmonteiro9942 nobody killed anybody! Wtf are you talking about??

@simonmann4922 Ай бұрын

I think it’s funny that most of these gritty versions of the mcu characters feel almost exactly like they were ripped even more from the ultimate marvel universe (which is what the mcu is primarily based on)

@Ikcatcher Ай бұрын

It really puts into perspective how surprisingly well MCU was up until Endgame

@photonic00 2 ай бұрын

now i want to see venom vs captain america 🤣

@binho61717 2 ай бұрын

You Will Not Ever See It Tho

@connorbrazington-lang2401 2 ай бұрын

Well since Michael Keaton was supposed to be Batman in Batgirl, I'd go with X-23.

@nicholaswolff2181 2 ай бұрын

This is probably the best parallel I've seen, but deadpool should've been put in US agent as a parallel to Vigilante

@austinallemand1882 2 ай бұрын

You never specified who was in charge of your MEU, so now you're making me want to see a what if Kevin Feige was in charge of your MEU video.

@crookedcaspershorts 2 ай бұрын

One of the funniest titles I’ve seen 😭

@ThatGenericPyro 2 ай бұрын

This is a hilarious thought experiment

@ToaAxiomMan Ай бұрын

why do I get the feeling that in this cursed timeline, this unmade Avengers 2 and 3 would involve some drama involving Stark or Rogers being the dad of Pepper's child just like in our timeline's cancelled Justice League sequel and then Thanos shows up and messes everything up and then in movie three they go to fix what went wrong, big fight happens and then Stark dies along with Thanos and something like that

@chrissqn_aep 5 күн бұрын

Amazing video!!!

@cyber-thundr_ 2 ай бұрын

Their new films are not bad in the past 3 years but NOW their expansion is “complicatedly” structured this time around, and sometimes they terribly added forced story elements. Nobody cares about Thanos’ brother this soon, Avengers Endgame was only 2 years old. Ms Marvel is a good character in The Marvels but you need to know more about her character by watching her series on Disney+.

@hyperthehedgehog 2 ай бұрын

Could please make a video on what the Spider-Man films and sequels would look like without Sony's constant meddling.

@Nenerii 2 ай бұрын

Jokes aside, the world building around this is brilliant

@broimvengeance 2 ай бұрын

Someone needs to make a comparison chart of all the projects he talked about at the end and which ones they relate to because i could'nt follow more than half of it.

@Darragh7 2 ай бұрын

This was hilarious! 😂

@matthewrosenthal753 2 ай бұрын

There is a large flaw in this premise , and it is as follows: The DCEU had a poor structure, is patently untrue. It was simply built too fast and held together with paper clips instead of nails.

@tylerleach8796 2 ай бұрын

…that’s a poor structure.

@matthewrosenthal753 2 ай бұрын

@@tylerleach8796 no it’s not as the structure was “ To tell stories in a connected universe” that in of itself is fine. The problem was in the execution. They had the stories decades of them. We know the characters but you have to take your time. They didn’t so corners were cut and it failed. Gunn’s version will to because they haven’t learned their lesson.

@tylerleach8796 2 ай бұрын

@@matthewrosenthal753 a structure that is built too fast and barely held together is, by definition, a poor one.

@ThibautMahringer 2 ай бұрын

@@matthewrosenthal753 Warner Bros never learn their lesson, never ever

@mikejeffries3333 2 ай бұрын

@@matthewrosenthal753 You're talking about the premise. You can argue that the premise-telling stories in a connected universe-is fine, but the structure being "built too fast and held together with paper clips" is, in fact... a poor structure.

@hansshekelstein9450 2 ай бұрын

I don’t understand Snyders idea of “dark” (edgy), I’ve never gotten who thinks that realistic, edgy stories are full of people who are evil and don’t care about murder or their friends. One of the darkest, saddest books I’ve ever read is the memoir “One Soldiers War In Chechnya”. Its awful, so many terrible horrid things happen. But the main character and his friends aren’t some terrible people. They care about each other where they can, sacrifice sometimes their lives for each other and a generally decent enough people who are put in an awful inhuman situation and war. I think Snyder and a lot of people confuse edgy with dark/realistic.

@azeemtravadi6128 2 ай бұрын

turns out taking an Ayn Rand-ist approach to superhero movies when the comics focus on a much more realistic, hopeful, and less authoritarian approach leads to boring shitty stories about selfish gods and a ton of cancelled projects

@chefboylj4229 2 ай бұрын

Can you do rewriting the dcamu as a animated marvel universe

@candacecrusaderkinklebob_6942 24 күн бұрын

I really like the scene in thunderbolts where taskmaster says to general Ross “What are we your little thunderbolts”?

@venusmilksheep 2 ай бұрын

In this universe, Elektra would be played by Ana de Armas, who would eventually star in Walt Disney’s American Girl movie, which will release in the same day as Tim Burton’s Bohr to get revenge on Burton for leaving them for Universal. Whereas, Margot Robbie would collaborate with Ben Affleck for many movies and also getting nominated for Best Actress for her movie Blonde, which received backlash. Meanwhile, Disney will receive internet backlash in 2023 for shelving Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, while also delaying Percy Jackson and The Lightning Thief Pt. II starring Walker Scobell due to the Writer’s Strikes. Scobell would also play Brown, the prequel film to Back of the Future.