What if the MCU Was As Poorly Structured as the DCEU?

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The Black Lion

The Black Lion

Күн бұрын

It’s been five years since the Infinity Saga came to an end and it’s already quite clear that since then the MCU hasn’t had as good of a structure to it’s releases or even as good a consistency of quality. That being said, it could definitely be worse, specifically, the MCU could’ve had the structure and average quality of the DCEU. In the past I looked at what the DCEU would’ve looked like if it had the MCU’s structure, this time around I’ll be doing the opposite, seeing what the MCU would look like if it was as inconsistent and as messy as the DCEU. This is something I did a few years ago but that video desperately needs an update both because of it’s quality and because the DCEU has since had a few more releases and has since been capped off as well.
00:00 - Intro
0:47 - Counterparts
2:19 - 2013
3:33 - 2014
4:23 - 2016
10:20 - 2017
12:21 - 2018
12:48 - 2019
13:43 - 2020
15:39 - 2021
17:02 - 2022
20:23 - 2023
25:37 - 2024 and beyond
25:55 - The Cancelled projects

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@Rav_Ram
@Rav_Ram Ай бұрын
It really puts into perspective how fucked it was, civil war being the second movie and like half the planned movies being canceled
@cybercrasherstv
@cybercrasherstv 27 күн бұрын
And people say irl civil war wasn't done at the right time, so this universe's discourse on the meu would be even worse. And keep in mind, civil war was one of the most recent comics when iron man came out, it was a gamble comic book fans even liked him anymore. Having that story be butchered like that when everyone just saw it would be a disaster we really haven't seen in a good while
@claycrawford7
@claycrawford7 26 күн бұрын
Looking at that original announcement graphic is hilarious. Especially cause people forget they also did at like a company stockholders meeting and not like a movie convention, even though Disney was already doing slate announcements
@Rav_Ram
@Rav_Ram 26 күн бұрын
@claycrawford7 I remember seeing that graphic when it came out and I was like "a cyborg movie? Really?"not to mention the cw flash show premiered AND ended between that announcement and the movie finally coming out.
@claycrawford7
@claycrawford7 26 күн бұрын
@@Rav_Ram I wish there was a full slate of whatever they had planned during 2020, cause I guess they were just basing everything around Keaton and it’s kind of a miracle they green lit a Blue Beetle movie as well.
@night6724
@night6724 26 күн бұрын
Except BvS and civil war are nothing alike besides two heroes fighting First of all, do we need ANOTHER goddamn Batman origin movie? People lost their shit just at the OPENING credits of the Wayne’s deaths. Second, this wasn’t about an emotional struggle of two friends. It was about a fallen hero in Batman becoming paranoid about a potential threat in Superman. Like we don’t need a Batman movie to tell us Robin is dead and he’s upset. If LOTR came out today you’d say “why didn’t we get a stand alone Gimlee and Legolas film?
@AintNoWaye
@AintNoWaye Ай бұрын
Warner Bros letting Snyder run DC will haunt them for centuries
@AintNoWaye
@AintNoWaye Ай бұрын
like how hard is it to stick to comics, make structured built up movies, send your shows to max/netflix etc
@omega9270
@omega9270 Ай бұрын
That's the thing, he never ran it 💀💀 I don't know what random twitter mf came up with that but if he ran DC he would've made the Extended cut of BVS the theatrical version, and would've made Justice League II parts if he didn't leave.
@jonathanhill3668
@jonathanhill3668 Ай бұрын
@@omega9270he was the creative leader behind the universe. They basically gave him the keys
@AintNoWaye
@AintNoWaye Ай бұрын
@@omega9270 a batman superman movie being dark and 3-4 hrs long is a mistake in the first place?
@rbleaks818
@rbleaks818 Ай бұрын
WB hiring a director to helm a universe who has NO intention to make a cinematic universe but only five movies with an extremely limited vision caused the DCEU to full reboot
@ThePonderer
@ThePonderer Ай бұрын
Bro came for Snyder’s neck and I can’t say he’s wrong.
@_MECHA_
@_MECHA_ Ай бұрын
He is...only on the man of steel part
@night6724
@night6724 25 күн бұрын
except this video is a straw man
@RTU130
@RTU130 25 күн бұрын
Ye
@Brams2777
@Brams2777 23 күн бұрын
And Ayer lol
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 23 күн бұрын
​@@night6724calling an entire 26 minute video a straw man is crazy when you don't even explain why it is
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
"A young street rat named Kamala Khan" Okay.... okay now i get why people hate Birds of Prey. I would be livid too.
@cantaloupegodling352
@cantaloupegodling352 25 күн бұрын
It's really not a fair comparison. Cassandra Cain is a great character, one of my faves of the Batfam, but she's a Batgirl and not even the most well known one. They were never gonna do a Cassie Batgirl. Plus, the hate was completely unwarranted anyway because aside from that one bad character pick the movie is phenomenal. The amazingly shot action alone makes it a top tier superhero film.
@tonythehappynerd7241
@tonythehappynerd7241 25 күн бұрын
In fairness, while it could’ve been more faithful to its source material, Birds Of Prey was a very good movie, and was an improvement over Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad
@arcats9004
@arcats9004 24 күн бұрын
@@cantaloupegodling352 understandable, but consider that the assassin backstory is cooler
@darkmyro
@darkmyro 20 күн бұрын
Cassandra cain in the comics: mute assassin that later joins the bat family as a new batgirl thats tough as nails and not afraid to kill in order to fight her father in a bat suit that has no mouth opening since she cant talk Cassandra cain in the movie: petty thief who becomes a sort of a protege the Harley Quinn and swallows a diamond and is basically kind of a McGuffin in the movie for an extended poop joke and wears everyday clothing you decide who's cooler I mean I enjoyed the movie, but they could of named that kid anything else and it would have changed literally nothing in the film. Heck they could have genderbent a robin and it would have been better received. The fact that they named her after a cool character they were most likely never gonna do the cool thing with them added so much baggage to the movie that it really didn't need from fans.
@stellarremnant3597
@stellarremnant3597 5 күн бұрын
@@cantaloupegodling352 That is still no excuse for them to butcher such a badass character. They could’ve just used a different character or even made up a new one but nope they took a character with an established backstory and perfect design and ruined them completely. The Kamala Khan comparison works perfectly.
@Bstroz32
@Bstroz32 Ай бұрын
Holy hell you realize how bad DC fumbled their attempt at a cinematic universe when you get to all the cancelled projects at the end😂😂
@XDarksoulX1129
@XDarksoulX1129 21 күн бұрын
You see how bad it is just from seeing how bad the MCU really could've been
@brunowillich1837
@brunowillich1837 19 күн бұрын
Just goes to show you should NOT announce a whole lineup of movies. Keep your cards hidden for a while, see if people like what you're doing.
@SecretMagician
@SecretMagician 9 күн бұрын
​@brunowillich1837, just like what James Gunn is doing now. Ever since 2022, the only new projects we've gotten announcements for since are the Arkham Asylum series and a Teen Titans movie
@user-xz3pb3dt2u
@user-xz3pb3dt2u 28 күн бұрын
I think i can understand why Gunn reset the entire universe now....
@nobody-wz7lw
@nobody-wz7lw 21 күн бұрын
Only now?
@ichadpromax
@ichadpromax 7 күн бұрын
Yeah. So he can ruin it himself
@AWSOMzombie
@AWSOMzombie 3 күн бұрын
@@ichadpromaxyou know he's the same guy that the made guardians of the galaxy trilogy right?
@kirbattaquesmash5055
@kirbattaquesmash5055 Күн бұрын
The dude has a Trump pp do you think he can understand something so simple ​@@AWSOMzombie
@trickster80
@trickster80 19 сағат бұрын
@@ichadpromax Yeah man i'm pretty sure it was already ruined before Gunn came on
@ptcarbonproductions2013
@ptcarbonproductions2013 Ай бұрын
6:17 Zemo's plan should totally include mixing his DNA with Red Skull's body to create Red Onslaught.
@mr.knightthedetective7435
@mr.knightthedetective7435 Ай бұрын
Holy shit that sounds bizarre but kinda badass at the same time LMAO
@captaineri.223
@captaineri.223 Ай бұрын
A Marvel Mutant Character?
@night6724
@night6724 26 күн бұрын
@@mr.knightthedetective7435Why are people against how Doomsday was created in BvS when JLTAS literally had Cadmas create doomsday by cloning Superman?
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 26 күн бұрын
what? but that's not even remotely close to how Onslaught was crea oooooh
@night6724
@night6724 25 күн бұрын
@@ironmaster6496 Right because Doomsday’s origin was being grown in a lab by Cadmus. No wait, he was a genetically altered ancestor of Zod. Hold on no it a clone of superman.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
22:08 I love how the best example of Benedict Cumberbatch's insane antics was him taking a silly selfie. No child literally biting a bullet. No trying to "recruit" an underage girl. Just going on his balcony and facetiming his kid with a silly face. And that gets plastered all over the National Enquirer.
@Nobody44112
@Nobody44112 28 күн бұрын
i like to imagine in that universe people are very stingy when it comes to being too wacky and quirky
@Neonvolendam
@Neonvolendam 25 күн бұрын
Thousands of moviegoers would boycott Doctor Strange because Benedict's selfie was just too silly.
@Finamajig
@Finamajig 25 күн бұрын
@@Neonvolendam Benedict Cumberbatch blacklisted for being too silly
@RTU130
@RTU130 25 күн бұрын
True
@augustusabram8689
@augustusabram8689 Ай бұрын
One of these days you’re gonna make a video called “What If the MCU was structured like the Arrowverse?”.
@theinsurance2450
@theinsurance2450 Ай бұрын
How would do a movie series with a show series?
@marcelinovazquez5128
@marcelinovazquez5128 Ай бұрын
​@@theinsurance2450Aside from using the movies that exist maybe borrow some comic storylines that are closely similar to each season of the Arrowverse respectively. Like how Arrow Season 6 had their version of the Longbow Hunters (I know they weren't called the Longbow Hunters and that was a different team but they're more similar and has bigger roles than the actual Longbow Hunters) a potential Captain America Season 6 could use the Serpent Society. Or the Secret Empire storyline could be their version of the 9th Circle from Arrow Season 7. Or if Iron Man is the counterpart to the Flash in this scenario the Demon in a Bottle storyline could be used in place of Flashpoint since it dealt with the characters trauma.
@connorbrazington-lang2401
@connorbrazington-lang2401 Ай бұрын
I would like that.
@personalover2498
@personalover2498 Ай бұрын
If you want to use the same character counterparts from this video Arrow: Daredevil Supergirl: Captain Carter The Flash: Doctor Strange Legends of Tomorrow: Exiles Black Lightning: Luke Cage Batwoman: Ironheart
@marcelinovazquez5128
@marcelinovazquez5128 29 күн бұрын
I forgot to mention the KZfaqr MrEliMac actually did a series on that topic and it's pretty. I recommend checking especially Black Lion never does this topic himself
@shanerulez79
@shanerulez79 Ай бұрын
The Wolverine should be staring Daniel Radcliffe who no one thought was a good fit for the role but everyone loved after seeing the movie 😂
@binho61717
@binho61717 29 күн бұрын
I Would've Cast Henry Cavil (Kinda Fits)
@shanerulez79
@shanerulez79 29 күн бұрын
@binho61717 I was going for the Harry Potter kid becomes Wolverine, sort of like how the Twilight kid became The Batman
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
Isn't Daniel Radcliffe also kinda short too? Even better!
@shanerulez79
@shanerulez79 28 күн бұрын
@BrendanJSmith short and hairy 😆 that's why she's a popular fan cast
@mr_a_dawg
@mr_a_dawg Ай бұрын
We all know the real reason why you picked a Wolverine movie as an equivalent to the Batman and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine as an equivalent to Keaton's Batman: Wolverine's cowl looks like 2 Batmen kissing.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
Why man kissing? Is he gay? Why is he cheating on jonkler?
@mr_a_dawg
@mr_a_dawg Ай бұрын
@@goldenfiberwheat238 if you look at Wolverine’s cowl for quite some time, it looks like 2 Batman kissing
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
@@mr_a_dawg oh I guess you aren’t into Arkham community jokes
@sgtroach1510
@sgtroach1510 29 күн бұрын
@@mr_a_dawgis there a lore reason why?
@AzumarillConGafasBv
@AzumarillConGafasBv 26 күн бұрын
​@@mr_a_dawgis he stupid
@LucianoIannotti-ik4md
@LucianoIannotti-ik4md Ай бұрын
“The Rhinos” got me dying 🤣🤣🤣
@JustavocomJ
@JustavocomJ Ай бұрын
I didn't get the reference
@LucianoIannotti-ik4md
@LucianoIannotti-ik4md Ай бұрын
@JustavocomJ They were thinking of making a spin-off of Aquaman about the trench creatures
@JustavocomJ
@JustavocomJ Ай бұрын
@@LucianoIannotti-ik4md oh yeah i forgot that shit
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
Then an unrelated action movie sequel based on a novel starring Jason Statham comes out named "Sabretooth 2: The Rhinos"
@juliancaraveo5700
@juliancaraveo5700 Ай бұрын
I AM THE RHINOOO !!!! - The Rhino from The Amazing Spiderman 2
@KaijuofSteel
@KaijuofSteel 24 күн бұрын
The Tom Hardy analogy of The Rock was so funny and so true, trying to turn a B List villain into an A List antihero that doesn't want anything to do with his hero counterpart
@jonahrk_rider3602
@jonahrk_rider3602 Ай бұрын
Can't wait for season 2 of My adventures with Captain America it a really good show.
@TheBlackLion001
@TheBlackLion001 Ай бұрын
Young Avengers and Avengers Unlimited are some of my favorite shows ever
@binho61717
@binho61717 29 күн бұрын
There's Also The Avengers Secret Wars Trilogy Which Is Ending The Out Of His Time-Verse (They Acctually Killed Off Doctor Strange In Part One)
@PhineasMoeller
@PhineasMoeller 7 күн бұрын
I'd call it "The Adventures Of Captain America And Bucky" But that Buckys perspective.
@PhineasMoeller
@PhineasMoeller 7 күн бұрын
@@TheBlackLion001 My Favorite Is Spider-Man the Animated Series. The same guy voiced him in the Spider-Man Ravencroft games. Really did him dirty in Thunderbolts Kill The Avengers.
@adora_was_taken
@adora_was_taken 6 күн бұрын
they really nailed the character of captain america in that. it's such a shame super soldier ruined everyone's view of him
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
I'd like to think that in this universe, Tom Hardy pissed in bottles on the set of Mad Max: Fury Road and insisted on staying at a five star hotel in the city, arriving to set in the desert six or seven hours late. Instead of feuding with Charlize Theron, he feuds with George Miller, and gets a bad reputation in Hollywood despite being a massive box office draw, which crumbles when his Venom film is released and it flops. Meanwhile, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson never shaves his head, spends less time in the gym, and thus achieves his true acting power. He is cast in a Sony-produced Black Adam film (with no Shazam) that does amazingly well off the back of Justice League: The Anti-Life War.
@Neonvolendam
@Neonvolendam 25 күн бұрын
But then everything goes to shit once Sony makes "Doctor Sivana" starring Christian Bale, but without Shazam. The movie is a financial disaster and an online laughing stock for months. However, Sony proceeds to make "Lady Blaze", which also turns out to be a huge flop.
@jamesthanoob
@jamesthanoob 25 күн бұрын
The idea of Tom Hardy insisting that Venom will chamge the heirarchy of power in the Marvel Universe is really funny for no reason
@personalover2498
@personalover2498 24 күн бұрын
*Justice League: Apokolips War, watch the other video
@mikejeffries3333
@mikejeffries3333 22 күн бұрын
Now that you say that, I think, if anything, Morbius would have been a better equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it: >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?
@personalover2498
@personalover2498 22 күн бұрын
@@mikejeffries3333 I get all this but it had to be Venom because Spider-Man is the Shazam equivalent, so the Black Adam equivalent has to be a major Spider-Man villain who got their own movie, ergo Venom as he is the "evil" Spider-Man like how Black Adam is the "evil" Shazam
@flasheditz1_
@flasheditz1_ Ай бұрын
Make a Marvel version of the Arrowverse
@lucasroque754
@lucasroque754 Ай бұрын
I second that
@spiderbat9957
@spiderbat9957 Ай бұрын
I third that
@aarondx3764
@aarondx3764 Ай бұрын
I fourth that
@user-og6ws8ux8d
@user-og6ws8ux8d Ай бұрын
I fifth that
@Mugshot_Productions
@Mugshot_Productions Ай бұрын
I sixth that
@EduardoGarcia-ph4jj
@EduardoGarcia-ph4jj 23 күн бұрын
And thats the universe where halloween was full of elektra costumes
@youssefmesrati340
@youssefmesrati340 Ай бұрын
Day 3 of asking to make the Power rangers reboot into a cinematic universe with the structure of the mcu
@G0LDMUS_PRIME
@G0LDMUS_PRIME Ай бұрын
Now that's a good idea
@_Micah_Bell
@_Micah_Bell Ай бұрын
yes that is what need
@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964
@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 Ай бұрын
That'd be cool
@mr.knightthedetective7435
@mr.knightthedetective7435 Ай бұрын
That would be crazy, you would have to make each individual Ranger unique and set apart from the other by giving them unique gimmicks on top of other things
@LiMe251
@LiMe251 Ай бұрын
Or it would be team-based ​@@mr.knightthedetective7435
@CJDrewlan
@CJDrewlan Ай бұрын
Eddie brock totally should’ve been played by The Rock still in this fictional universe
@anubusx
@anubusx Ай бұрын
Damn even the teachers would be scared of him.
@averythesuperhero
@averythesuperhero 26 күн бұрын
The Brock
@genericusername3518
@genericusername3518 3 күн бұрын
Or Tom Hardy plays Eddie but the Rock voices Venom
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
24:25 It should be X-23. Ironheart would be the closest to actual Batgirl. But to stick with the lower budget, the super team, the legacy actor as the mentor, gotta be X-23.
@IllusionMaster17
@IllusionMaster17 26 күн бұрын
DCEU is the perfect example of how not to structure a media Universe. The awful ammount of bad decisions they took and way to address movies' order is sickening. I'm so glad that at least the MCU was much better in arranging their projects. Because REALLY, just this video made me imagine things I couldn't ever get over with.
@Ringohulk777
@Ringohulk777 26 күн бұрын
The non existence of Hulk in this hypothetical, while completely accurate and sensible, infuriates me.
@humberto022
@humberto022 25 күн бұрын
thank god we dont live in a universe where that actually happened.
@daniel_kb3434
@daniel_kb3434 Ай бұрын
Really love these types of alternate history videos, was a very fun watch great job black lion
@jpyanity443
@jpyanity443 Ай бұрын
I know you said you stuck with the Peacemaker plot because it’s all original so it’s not DC dependent but since it’s a Marvel equivalent I can’t help but point out how well the Skrulls would fit, being aliens who can impersonate anyone
@damarioncoleman6226
@damarioncoleman6226 Ай бұрын
I would love to see a video where you do a Marvel Movie Universe where marvel owned all their characters but it doesn’t follow the MCU structure which means iron man, captain America, Spider-Man, x men, and fantastic four and more all have trilogys, you can have tv series and movies at the same time like Hawkeye or Daredevil series during phase 2. And you can go pass 22 films in phase 1-3. Shung Chi, Black Panther and Captain Marvel can appear earlier in the universe.
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Ай бұрын
I’d really like to see what he would come up with for that, along with one like it for DC
@anonymousguy7005
@anonymousguy7005 Ай бұрын
Like this comment so he can see this
@lucasroque754
@lucasroque754 Ай бұрын
He already did that
@theeggalorianstudios8680
@theeggalorianstudios8680 Ай бұрын
that would be awesome
@personalover2498
@personalover2498 24 күн бұрын
He did it for the Infinity Saga, but not Multiverse
@Muicheerio
@Muicheerio 25 күн бұрын
I’m so glad the mcu was structured as it was
@Rmcrace2319
@Rmcrace2319 27 күн бұрын
As someone who is a die hard Marvel/MCU fan, and a casual DC/DCEU fan, this video really put into perspective just how bad the DCEU really was. I absolutely loved The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, the Flash, and Shazam, but that’s really it. This was a fantastic video and I’m glad I finally understand what it was like for DC fans
@nathaniel201
@nathaniel201 Ай бұрын
Blue Beetle was such a weird anomaly that I had to pause the video to think really hard about what Ghost Rider was a counterpart to. As someone who's always been more familiar with Marvel than DC, having Cull Obsidian be the main villain of the Avengers really puts into focus how wild it was that Steppenwolf was carrying the whole Justice League event. Is it weird that I actually kind of like the opening premise of this universe's Civil War (Captain America finding a darker Iron Man vigilante)? The Civil War we actually got never felt like anyone was really at risk of dying and this would have some weight to it. It could be a fun What If episode at least (although obviously dumb for the main movie).
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 25 күн бұрын
The set up for his civil war movie makes more sense than the actual BvS conflict.
@gavrilosinaga
@gavrilosinaga 25 күн бұрын
That's because the stakes of Captain America: Civil War IRL is less about life & death but more about the team's internal division...
@wickedchild8501
@wickedchild8501 19 сағат бұрын
Just look at the surnames: Jaime Reyes, Robbie Reyes...
@marvelking28-mr5mj
@marvelking28-mr5mj Ай бұрын
I made my own version of this a few months ago. Captain America: The First Avenger Captain America: Civil War Thunderbolts Thor The Avengers Namor Captain Marvel A-Force Thor 2 The Thunderbolts US Agent Doctor Doom Captain Marvel: Space Race Quicksilver Spider-Man Namor 2
@marvelking28-mr5mj
@marvelking28-mr5mj Ай бұрын
It is actually scary how similar this is
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 26 күн бұрын
@@marvelking28-mr5mjikr?
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Ай бұрын
Ok, don’t care what Snyder fanboys/people who don’t understand Superman are gonna say to me for this, the digs at Superman’s characterization through Cap was kinda funny to me (edit:make that digs towards many of the DCEU’s weird or dumb decisions, still funny)
@_MECHA_
@_MECHA_ Ай бұрын
I love man of steel. Sydner on the other hand...? eh..... Not all people who like man of steel "don't understand superman"
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Ай бұрын
@@_MECHA_ I never said people who like Man of Steel don’t understand Superman, I like it myself, I just said Snyder fanboys at the same time as that cause with the fans of his that defend the stuff he did for DC (all while probably acting like Gunn is terrible for DC and the DCU’s doomed when we haven’t even gotten to it yet) like their lives depend on it, it just feels like at least some of them fall into that category, but not all
@_MECHA_
@_MECHA_ Ай бұрын
@@LucasHopkins2006 oh. Sorry I misunderstood you.
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Ай бұрын
@@_MECHA_ No worries, probably should’ve made that more clear myself from the get go
@_MECHA_
@_MECHA_ Ай бұрын
@@LucasHopkins2006 it's alright
@rosewoodsoundradio
@rosewoodsoundradio Ай бұрын
The Thunderbolts roster in either movie sounds infinitely more interesting than the real life version lol The rebooted MCU is way better than the actual DCU lineup too
@fabiocxx
@fabiocxx Ай бұрын
I think a female group movie with Deadpool would be very on brand, at least Ryan Reynolds Deadpool
@IronLug
@IronLug 24 күн бұрын
Lady Deadpool
@astraltophat_at
@astraltophat_at 13 күн бұрын
also gwenpool is a thing but i think she's a bit to obscure
@elius1548
@elius1548 23 күн бұрын
This was the most incomprehensible video I’ve seen in a while. I mean this as a compliment, you really made a strong point about the DCEU
@Beezle66
@Beezle66 Ай бұрын
This was STRESSFUL
@HerbCoswellBornAgain
@HerbCoswellBornAgain Ай бұрын
X-23 is the Batgirl equivalent (or was) because the original plan would be to bring Hugh Jackman Wolverine (and presumably by extension the rest of the Fox X-Men) into the MEU, and in place of Wakanda Forever, we could have it's equivalent could be a proper Cap sequel so at least this universe can come full circle.
@jorginator8524
@jorginator8524 29 күн бұрын
I always thought that it would make more sense if spiderman no way home was the equivalent of the flash, basically being the first spider-man movie in the MEU and also having the task to reboot the whole thing
@jamesplayzreviews
@jamesplayzreviews Ай бұрын
"And the fight everyone has always wanted to happen: Captain America vs. Venom is finally teased" I know this is like a creative/fun thing but to be real, if Captain America did fight Venom, he'd likely just barely hold his own against him if not get absolutely destroyed.
@SuperBatSpider
@SuperBatSpider Ай бұрын
I think Captain America would win. The captain would pull through with pure determination.
@jamesplayzreviews
@jamesplayzreviews Ай бұрын
@@SuperBatSpider Yeah but Venom is the come back king. For pete's sake, he fought his fricking creator. Someone who was said (before he did die) to be impossible to kill and be able to kill anyone in the Marvel universe. Someone who wiped out Sentry so easily it hurt all the Sentry fans that exist. Only way I can see Captain America winning that battle is if he had Mjolnir and even then that's only because of lightning creating fire.
@SuperBatSpider
@SuperBatSpider Ай бұрын
@@jamesplayzreviews Yeah. Venom is definitely coming back, but Cap is probably gonna win the first match and as he’s a legendary hero he’s definitely at least not getting killed by Venom. I could see him losing a rematch though.
@StarkMaximum
@StarkMaximum 19 күн бұрын
Venom vs Cap is a difficult fight to sell because both characters are very popular for very different reasons. No matter who wins, a significant portion of the fanbase is upset. It would _have_ to be a standoff and I can only hope it would be a cool one where both parties still feel like they're fighting their best but evenly matched and not a pissy one where it's clear they're both pulling punches because corporate can't let one of them win.
@Whyyoulooking45
@Whyyoulooking45 Ай бұрын
Bro a Doctor Doom movie…imagine it being nominated for an Oscar
@ernestorivas3764
@ernestorivas3764 29 күн бұрын
If Joker talks about depression and society; what would this alternate timeline "Doctor Doom" movie talk about.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
​@@ernestorivas3764Probably a bunch of political jargon. He's the dictator of his own country.
@PhineasMoeller
@PhineasMoeller 7 күн бұрын
And the sequel is a pseudo-musical? I'd watch that.
@elcorvo4108
@elcorvo4108 Ай бұрын
Nah, It should be just Super Soldier, no Captain America, like Man of Steel (JK cool video)
@binho61717
@binho61717 29 күн бұрын
I Would've Name It The Man Out Of His Time
@user-fh6mc9du5n
@user-fh6mc9du5n 2 күн бұрын
I could see that being a way better title for that movie.
@mikedrewson5545
@mikedrewson5545 Ай бұрын
You should do a remake of your video where you structure the MCU if they have all their rights.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
With Feige at the helm, I don't think it'd be that different initially. Some X-Men and Spidey sprinkled in there, but not too much because there'd already have been 4 and 3 movies respectively. The big difference I think would be kicking off with a new Fantastic Four. But it would probably diverge big time in Phase 3.
@marianomartinez3008
@marianomartinez3008 24 күн бұрын
​@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ciwil War like comics, with Peter releved his indentify to finish in One More Day😧
@user-fh6mc9du5n
@user-fh6mc9du5n 2 күн бұрын
Now there's a video I'd love to watch.
@autisticbuckfan
@autisticbuckfan 25 күн бұрын
As a non DC fan this really puts into perspective how bad the DCEU was 😭
@fishmobsmovietv514
@fishmobsmovietv514 23 күн бұрын
You forgot, they were also planning on a Harley Quinn vs The joker movie, so we also needed a canceled Electra vs kingpin movie.
@Monkey_Boy9602
@Monkey_Boy9602 Ай бұрын
It's absolutely depressing that in both realities we will never see the Thunderbolts real origin played out in live action. Why skip over the best part of the story just so we can have Marvel's Suicide Squad?
@mikejeffries3333
@mikejeffries3333 22 күн бұрын
Okay, hear me out: while I loved almost everything about this video, instead of "Venom," I think we should have gotten "Morbius," starring Jared Leto as the equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it: >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?
@user-fh6mc9du5n
@user-fh6mc9du5n 2 күн бұрын
BURN.
@user-iw5kc1oq8i
@user-iw5kc1oq8i Ай бұрын
would been funnier if it was the rock who played venom
@user-oz3um2ii7o
@user-oz3um2ii7o Ай бұрын
The Brock
@TheVladMan.
@TheVladMan. 2 күн бұрын
Captain America: “It’s been a while since anyone’s made the world this nervous. Venom, we need to talk.”
@EsihleMadi
@EsihleMadi Ай бұрын
Iv been waiting for this,thank u
@kwproductions6737
@kwproductions6737 28 күн бұрын
Time traveller moves a chair The timeline
@akwilson1676
@akwilson1676 Ай бұрын
This is comedic gold.
@danielmonteiro9942
@danielmonteiro9942 Ай бұрын
Oh, I see what you (probably) didn't making Natalie Portman the catalyst for Joss Whedon's downfall during The Avengers' production. Well played.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
Explain?
@danielmonteiro9942
@danielmonteiro9942 28 күн бұрын
@@BrendanJSmith Well, taking that Gal Gadot (of all people) denounced Whedon for his very gross behavior with her during Josstice League's production, I think that, here, Natalie Portman, or, most probably, Scarlett Johansson, would denounce Whedon and that's the conflict that would bring in Zack Snyder and The Snygers. Though Marvel fans would have to be content with having the Frankenstein that the original movie is, because, well, let's just say, its the closest thing they'll get from an Avengers movie until Gunn really kicks in the MU.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
@@danielmonteiro9942 But in real life, Zack Snyder never had any negative claims made against him. So you're not even making any sense.
@danielmonteiro9942
@danielmonteiro9942 28 күн бұрын
@@BrendanJSmith It's to not kill anyone in the Whedon family.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
@@danielmonteiro9942 nobody killed anybody! Wtf are you talking about??
@Miunim
@Miunim 29 күн бұрын
3:19 I have a strong urge to post this part on Twitter without context just to see how people react
@hifive789
@hifive789 23 күн бұрын
And of course, there were the Devilverse shows: Devil - Ran for 8 seasons Doctor Strange - Ran for 9 seasons Scarlet Witch - Ran for 1 season Iron Heart - Ran for 6 seasons Legends of Tomorrow - Ran for 7 seasons Storm - Ran for 4 seasons Captain Britain - Ran for 3 seasons Kitty Pride - Ran for 3 seasons Iron Man & Potts - Ran for 4 seasons
@binho61717
@binho61717 16 күн бұрын
My Version: Daredevil (2012-2020) Quicksilver (2014-2023) Spider-Man Miles Morales (2015-2021) Marvel's Future Foundation (2015-2022) Ironheart (2019-2022) Spider-man and Mj (2021-2024) Armor Wars (2023-2023) Animated Shows: Black Pather (I Don't Know) Thunderbolts (2017-2018) Crossover Events Daredevil vs. Quicksilver Heroes Join Forces World's Finest Secret Invasion Civil War What if Secret Wars House Of M
@Nenerii
@Nenerii 29 күн бұрын
Jokes aside, the world building around this is brilliant
@matthewrosenthal753
@matthewrosenthal753 Ай бұрын
There is a large flaw in this premise , and it is as follows: The DCEU had a poor structure, is patently untrue. It was simply built too fast and held together with paper clips instead of nails.
@tylerleach8796
@tylerleach8796 Ай бұрын
…that’s a poor structure.
@matthewrosenthal753
@matthewrosenthal753 Ай бұрын
@@tylerleach8796 no it’s not as the structure was “ To tell stories in a connected universe” that in of itself is fine. The problem was in the execution. They had the stories decades of them. We know the characters but you have to take your time. They didn’t so corners were cut and it failed. Gunn’s version will to because they haven’t learned their lesson.
@tylerleach8796
@tylerleach8796 Ай бұрын
@@matthewrosenthal753 a structure that is built too fast and barely held together is, by definition, a poor one.
@ThibautMahringer
@ThibautMahringer 24 күн бұрын
@@matthewrosenthal753 Warner Bros never learn their lesson, never ever
@mikejeffries3333
@mikejeffries3333 22 күн бұрын
@@matthewrosenthal753 You're talking about the premise. You can argue that the premise-telling stories in a connected universe-is fine, but the structure being "built too fast and held together with paper clips" is, in fact... a poor structure.
@DarianGunawan-ry4fj
@DarianGunawan-ry4fj 23 күн бұрын
"The Rhinos" made me laugh my ass off lmaoooo a movie about rhinos
@starset4life175
@starset4life175 28 күн бұрын
Now what if the Monsterverse was structured like the MCU?
@PhineasMoeller
@PhineasMoeller 7 күн бұрын
And I... Am... Godzilla.
@kiwi_arms
@kiwi_arms 23 күн бұрын
i'm obsessede with this timeline's equivalent of dc's huge black adam push, where there's a huge comic event that ends with venom giving EVERY superhero a symbiote to fight the event's villain (who is, inexplicably, mister sinister)
@TheBlackLion001
@TheBlackLion001 22 күн бұрын
Dark Secret Wars
@DougieYT
@DougieYT 24 күн бұрын
Snyder turned nearly every DC Character into an edgy carbon copy of Bruce Wayne.
@davidfeltheim2501
@davidfeltheim2501 26 күн бұрын
What sucks is that Marvel has now totally dropped in DCEU quality, Guardians 3 and The Batman being standout films while Quantumania and The Flash being almost unwatchable.
@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew
@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew 5 күн бұрын
I can hear the Snyderbro crowd marching with their torches and pitchforks in the distance.
@marianomartinez3008
@marianomartinez3008 24 күн бұрын
I forgive you Kevin Feige😧
@photonic00
@photonic00 Ай бұрын
now i want to see venom vs captain america 🤣
@binho61717
@binho61717 29 күн бұрын
You Will Not Ever See It Tho
@touchstonefan0348
@touchstonefan0348 27 күн бұрын
Chris Evans shot alternate endings for The Flash movie appearing as Cap. However they got cut and replaced with Dougray Scott as Logan, with Strange asking WTF?! For those who may not know. Scott was originally cast as Logan for X-Men but left due to Mission Impossible 2 having reshoots. So Hugh got it thankfully. Best I could do with replacing the Clooney cameo with something Wolverine related 🤣
@chavotoons
@chavotoons 24 күн бұрын
Don't forger for the doctor strange movie the controversial desicion of having a CGI cameo of Bill Bixby (70s Bruce Banner) and a scene based on a cancelled movie. or maybe a cameo of Captain America from the 1940s serials.
@azeemtravadi6128
@azeemtravadi6128 22 күн бұрын
turns out taking an Ayn Rand-ist approach to superhero movies when the comics focus on a much more realistic, hopeful, and less authoritarian approach leads to boring shitty stories about selfish gods and a ton of cancelled projects
@supamillienp
@supamillienp 21 күн бұрын
7:26 "What are we, some sort of The Thunderbolts?"
@andm9766
@andm9766 Ай бұрын
If it was really like the DCEU I feel Thor would’ve came in during civil war to show the trinity and it would’ve had to be a stronger villain who appears like doomsday which is one of Superman’s strongest
@bradyduzeski7412
@bradyduzeski7412 26 күн бұрын
I love the switch up of Joss Wedon and Zach Snyder, definitely makes sense for this universe lol Also Benedict Cumberbatch being crazy is hilarious lol
@wombatpandaa9774
@wombatpandaa9774 18 күн бұрын
Bro, Gwenpool as a counterpart to Harley with her own female anti-hero movie would be sick though
@ethancadge2102
@ethancadge2102 25 күн бұрын
Funny thing is that this is probably still better written them the DCEU
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
10:52 I laughed so hard 😂 This video brings me immense joy. As an MCU fan who is genuinely worried for the future of the franchise and was very disappointed by Thor 4 and Quantumania (and Secret Invasion was atrocious)... yeah, could have been much worse.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 28 күн бұрын
Fantastic Four is our only hope.
@Uulfinn
@Uulfinn 24 күн бұрын
One of the worst decisions was having doomsday and the death of superman before the justice league movie. There were a ton of terrible decisions with the dceu.
@nicholaswolff2181
@nicholaswolff2181 25 күн бұрын
This is probably the best parallel I've seen, but deadpool should've been put in US agent as a parallel to Vigilante
@cyber-thundr_
@cyber-thundr_ Ай бұрын
Their new films are not bad in the past 3 years but NOW their expansion is “complicatedly” structured this time around, and sometimes they terribly added forced story elements. Nobody cares about Thanos’ brother this soon, Avengers Endgame was only 2 years old. Ms Marvel is a good character in The Marvels but you need to know more about her character by watching her series on Disney+.
@Cupy_Official
@Cupy_Official Ай бұрын
What a sad time-line 🙁
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 15 күн бұрын
It's amazing how well the first Three phase of the mcu were.
@ThatGenericPyro
@ThatGenericPyro 25 күн бұрын
This is a hilarious thought experiment
@razorback9999able
@razorback9999able 24 күн бұрын
The reason why Warner Bros failed the DCEU is because they envy Marvel's MCU at that time
@VDOTU5
@VDOTU5 22 күн бұрын
"Thor: Love & Thunder also caused controversy due to Jane being resurrected in some random, unamed woman. That woman, while unconscious, was used for a night of passion between Thor and Jane. Ultimately, r-wording her which was never addressed in the movie. The writers and director were never allowed to work in mainstream entertainment ever again".
@venusmilksheep
@venusmilksheep 22 күн бұрын
In this universe, Elektra would be played by Ana de Armas, who would eventually star in Walt Disney’s American Girl movie, which will release in the same day as Tim Burton’s Bohr to get revenge on Burton for leaving them for Universal. Whereas, Margot Robbie would collaborate with Ben Affleck for many movies and also getting nominated for Best Actress for her movie Blonde, which received backlash. Meanwhile, Disney will receive internet backlash in 2023 for shelving Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, while also delaying Percy Jackson and The Lightning Thief Pt. II starring Walker Scobell due to the Writer’s Strikes. Scobell would also play Brown, the prequel film to Back of the Future.
@austinallemand1882
@austinallemand1882 Ай бұрын
You never specified who was in charge of your MEU, so now you're making me want to see a what if Kevin Feige was in charge of your MEU video.
@crookedcaspershorts
@crookedcaspershorts Ай бұрын
One of the funniest titles I’ve seen 😭
@hansshekelstein9450
@hansshekelstein9450 23 күн бұрын
I don’t understand Snyders idea of “dark” (edgy), I’ve never gotten who thinks that realistic, edgy stories are full of people who are evil and don’t care about murder or their friends. One of the darkest, saddest books I’ve ever read is the memoir “One Soldiers War In Chechnya”. Its awful, so many terrible horrid things happen. But the main character and his friends aren’t some terrible people. They care about each other where they can, sacrifice sometimes their lives for each other and a generally decent enough people who are put in an awful inhuman situation and war. I think Snyder and a lot of people confuse edgy with dark/realistic.
@broimvengeance
@broimvengeance Ай бұрын
Someone needs to make a comparison chart of all the projects he talked about at the end and which ones they relate to because i could'nt follow more than half of it.
@bismarsyauqie7885
@bismarsyauqie7885 Ай бұрын
You know as much of a mess the recent structur instalment of the MCU nowadays, i agree it can get really worse. Heck, at least with the MCU, there's a slight hope that the franchise can be saved if Feige & Iger get their shit done (Which i'm glad that they did with how Feige admit how they mess up around this past 4 years, and try to make ammends of it). With DCEU however is pretty clear that the franchise need a full om reebot rather than a sof-reebot like the one James Gun prefered
@The_Vizo
@The_Vizo 27 күн бұрын
This video is mindbending.
@doriandaykin2747
@doriandaykin2747 Ай бұрын
My equivalence is this: 1. Super Soldier (Baron Zemo) 2. Civil War (Norman Osborn, Winter Soldier) 3. Thunderbolts (Enchantress, Baron Zemo) 4. Thor (Loki, Laufey) 5. The Avengers (Ebony Maw) 6. Black Panther (Killmonger, Klaw) 7. Captain Marvel (Ronan The Accuser) 8. Deadpool And The X-Force (Mister Sinister, Juggernaut) 9. Thor: The Dark World (Malekith, Kurse) 10. The Thunderbolts (Fin Fang Foom, MODOK) 10.1. U.S. Agent (Flag Smasher) 11. Doctor Doom (Mephisto) 12. Captain Marvel: Fury Of The Kree (Supreme Intelligence) 13. Scarlet Witch (Magneto) 14. Ant-Man (Yellowjacket) 15. Black Panther And The Lost Kingdom (Namor, Attuma, Namora) I'm happy with pretty much all of them except Captain Marvel as Shazam. I cannot find a better fit, and I'm not using Spider-Man because he is my counterpart for The Batman universe. My choice of Scarlet Witch for the Flash movie is based on how similar the concepts of House Of M and Flashpoint Paradox are. Also we can use Quicksilver as the counterpart to annoying young Barry.
@mrspiderman3188
@mrspiderman3188 11 күн бұрын
I feel like the Peacemaker show should have been a Deadpool show.
@user-fh6mc9du5n
@user-fh6mc9du5n 2 күн бұрын
And sanity has left the building.
@Darragh7
@Darragh7 Ай бұрын
This was hilarious! 😂
@RABartlett
@RABartlett Ай бұрын
Something funny about Wakanda Forever/Lost Kingdom: Because Namor is the antagonist in of the former, its plot isn't too too far from the latter, so I say just let it play out. As for Venom, maybe use the Fraction/Alred FF, or here's a nutty idea, make it an adaptation of Maximum Carnage without Spidey, basically Iron Fist for Dr. Fate, Deathok for Hawman, Firestar for Cyclone and hmm, the last one's a little tough, maybe bring in a new Ant-Man either way.
@ulises4241
@ulises4241 14 күн бұрын
Every so often i forget what type of video i was watching and i was like 'thats so dumb why would you make that decision' until i realise. oh, this is...this is what DC/warner bros did irl
@PhoebeTheFairy56
@PhoebeTheFairy56 Ай бұрын
7:30 I love it when earth-12041is brought up
@iamraviolo
@iamraviolo 8 күн бұрын
okay i didnt realize that the dceu was this messed up☠☠
@TheVladMan.
@TheVladMan. 2 күн бұрын
The DCEU should’ve ended after Justice League came out and flopped hard.
@Anupamprime
@Anupamprime 7 күн бұрын
Meanwhile In another Timeline:- Superman The Incredible Flash Superman 2 BATMAN The First Member The Justice League
@user-fh6mc9du5n
@user-fh6mc9du5n 2 күн бұрын
KILL ME NOW!
@daniboypicazzo
@daniboypicazzo Ай бұрын
I want a video with him giving the plot synopsis and castings of the cancelled projects
@goodchristianboys6842
@goodchristianboys6842 13 күн бұрын
Love how you kept the Rock's narcissism
@ExtraMichael
@ExtraMichael 27 күн бұрын
Bahahahah Jesus this was a rough watch. Great job
@hyperthehedgehog
@hyperthehedgehog Ай бұрын
Could please make a video on what the Spider-Man films and sequels would look like without Sony's constant meddling.
@connorbrazington-lang2401
@connorbrazington-lang2401 Ай бұрын
Well since Michael Keaton was supposed to be Batman in Batgirl, I'd go with X-23.
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