Ability to scrap/reimburse/recycle engineering would be a very positive step if FDev are willing and able...o7 Edited to reduce salt 😂

Something to make engineering slightly less of a chore would be nice.

That was one of the most thought-out videos and really put some of the nuances and arguments at rest that we see within the community. You've done a great job explaining community progression here. Thank you, love your stuff.

They should up the weekly arx limit from 400 to 1000 imo

I am coming back to the game having been away for just under a year fighting the Big C. Now i am in a better place i coming back to a better game by the look of It.

Totally unrelated but each time I tune in to witchspace news, I always say "I'm Commander Burr" whenever it gets to that part 😅

I am very happy with everything, very much looking forward to the future. ***One*** thing I wish they would do. Have my carrier recognize me as the owner. .

Greetings from Spain, commander. Of all the channels I follow for Elite Dangerous information, yours stands out as the best by far. Here's one more follower for you, thanks for your videos. I hope to keep watching them for a long time.

I see good things for Elite and Frontier as long as they continue to invest in Elite and not try to push out more crap.

I didn't realize until now that I started using it more, but SCO is a way bigger gamechanger than I thought at first. Trading, exploring, bounty hunting (hunting down pirates for contracts for example is a lot more combat and a lot less cruising to signals) or fighting in combat zones are all much more convenient now. Even for smaller distances, giving a boost at the start feels great. It's not just faster and a lot less tedious to move around in system, but also more engaging. And also, seeing that a station or objective is 50k Ls away, doesn't produce the same groan it used to. It's not a huge change, but SCO had a very positive impact on everything I do in game. You hit the nail on the head here. I hope your conclusions about the future are just as correct.

The new opening screensaver is probably good. But the menu screen - a burning hangar - is already boring. It's time to put out the fire in the hangar. Yes, recycling mechanics have been needed for a long time! And the ability to recycle improved suits and weapons.

While FDEV struggle to sell cosmetics SpaceBourne 2 developer Burak Dabak has released version 4.1.0 and 4.2.0 is in preview since 29 March. Check out the content features for the stable version 4.1.0 and remember it's one guy, possibly a bit more by now but not done encumbered by Braben.

I think the price increase is entirely the wrong approach. What they NEED to do is add stuff that is actually worth buying. I am currently sitting on some 40.000 arx but there is nothing I'd consider worth buying. I have the paint jobs, weapon and engine colors I want. Most of the ship kits are bleh and the thargoid kits are not transformative enough. They need to figure out things that are both cool and fun. Like space fireworks, alternative horn sounds, light decorations, etc. And just imagine the things they could sell you if you could decorate your ships interior, not just your cockpit with some lame bobbleheads.

I would love to see those of us that have paid cash for some of our ARX to have them increased by a multiplier averaged out from the rough increases in costs. It just feels like the amount we paid doesn't have the same purchasing power as when we purchased them.

Despite the previous failures and downfalls of frontier devs regarding Elite, I'll be buying the Python Mk2 and a bit more arx just to express my support and desire to have Elite Dangerous grow into the future and to give it yet another chance to give us, the players, the features we've always been dreaming of.

Great work team Buur. Crammed a lot with a comprehensive summary as always. As ever, my go-to place for update catch-ups. O7

I bought the ship. I’m happy to pay some money if it means the game continues in development

I think it was about a year ago when you made a video about a financial report by Frontier, which had me worried. The game made money and they expected it to keep making money for a few years, but looking at it, it also seemed like the sort of thing execs would say "keep the game running as long as it's profitable but wind down support and updates", essentially abandoning it. Glad to see they chose to keep updating the game instead and maybe realized that there is a lot that the game is great at compared to competitors. As for the monetization, I don't mind actually. The game has to make money if we want any attention on it, we can't have our cake (of minimal monetization) and eat it too (get updates to the game at this stage). And this is not too bad of a way to do it. I hope this new push is successful and this really is the start of a new era for the game.

I just made it to Rho Cassiopeiae and back in a Diamondback Explorer with no shields, what a brainstorm getting back !

Pretty amazing how much more quality development has taken place since FD cut staff...

Python Mk2 needs one more 5 size to be really useful

Id love to be able to get mats in a WAY easier way... and quadruple the amount mined via SRV.

Thanks for the News! For myself, I say that FDEV certainly did catch my attention, and they seem to have put much more thought into the first new ship they released, when compared to the slightly bulkified cardbord copies of the past that were Viper and Cobra 4. Still, they have a long reputation of false promises to make up for, before I am willing to pay anything more than attention to them, and the ARX store prince increases are not going to speed this up.

Cargo running has definitely got a much needed shot in the arm with the SCO. Those long distance in system jobs that pay out might now be viable, without being able to cook and eat a meal in the time it takes to make a delivery to a 100k + delivery or pick up site.

I would pay all the money for ship interiors.

Now all that is needed is either worlds or moons with flora and fauna, and atmospheres and clouds, ala either Star Citizen or No Man's Sky and Elite would be back to being something special.

I completely agree, "...school of hard knocks..." isn't bypassed by a zero re-buy for a basic+ ship. It's enough to frustrate a newbie; while, at the same time, allowing them to review their tactics and figure out a better tactic. Thanks for the news.

Thanks for the call-out.

It's cheaper to buy the deluxe edition of Elite Dangerous + a Pre-Built ship, than it is to hop into Star Citizen. Long term players might forget the game isn't easy to just hop into and start, there's a lot of complexity to it. The Pre-Built options just offer an easier way for new players to get into the game, which is good for everyone. Frontier doesn't have the insane budget the triple AAA studios have. Great video!

They could add Salvage missions.

I do like the scrapping unused engineered modules for materials return idea. Havent had time to play 18.04 but curious about the Mk2 Python. If i buy early access is it a single ship and I buy a second from the in game shipyard or is it just unlocking it so I can buy as many as my heart desires in the shipyard?

If i was to play elite again i wish they would implement : More and more ships More content New things to explore On planet mining Better fps gameplay for odessy. Ai is horrible,feels like im playing star citizen. And finally a good ol rebalancing while reducing the horrible grind. Hope the engineering rework they say they are implementing will fix the balancing issue. Finally can we please get some sort of ship interiors. Doesnt need to be star citizen quality ones. Just let us walk into our ships before sitting on the damn chair.

I bought the new python and have no regrets! Also, the engineering scrapping idea sounds fantastic, even if you get maybe half of the mats back.

Bought the Python Mk2 and fell in love with it. From the sound to the sleekness to the hardpoints its a beast of a ship. That "Inhale" just before the roar of the boost as it slices through the asteroid field of the titans, baring its 4x large AX weapons upon the titans heart

I got myself an SCO FSD for my 'vette last night, I got at least a whole light year's extra range over the Sirius FSD I engineered years ago, it may not sound like much, but when the jump range on your tank is abysmal to start with, you take all you can get, plus the ability to make supercruise trips way shorter is a massive plus, the cons don't really matter, those are easily mitigated.

The thing about increasing the price of cosmetics is this: increasing (in some cases doubling) prices can generate more revenue. But only if people continue to buy items at the higher prices! It will be interesting to see how this works out for them. The patch 18.04 discussion has some truly outstanding footage! I'm starting to think that Rheeny needs to be nominated for an Oscar in cinematography.

By the time ED gets ship interiors I'll be able to play it on a holodeck. I don't mind buying ships... I do it often for a lot more money with Star Citizen. I do however expect a higher quality of ship and interiors if I'm going to do so. Its too bad also, because ED is/was a lot of fun, especially in VR. Very deep map screen and trading system also. The biggest problem for me is no ship interiors and I really don't have much to do anymore after acquiring all the ships, most engineered after all these years. Without more immersion like exiting and entering full ships that are a little more detailed I can't see me returning.

Great Video. This was on balance a good update. A Scrapping mechanic would of course be welcome but we all know that with Elite, all too often, the Grind is the game. Back to swapping out my 30+ already fully engineered FSDs. Busy, busy, busy. o7

o7 Haven't played for years.. that learning curve would hit me hard again. But I'll give it a go I'm commander Darth Sidious Alpha Backer.. Cheers

im keeping my old FSD drives. i think sirius corp is going to come out with extra upgrades for those... i wonder if there will be 2 types of drives? SCO for local business like powerplay 2.0... and the updated FSD drives for looooong range exploration??? we will see

So the important question is... did the Python MK2 come with new unique engine sounds or is it the same as ye ol Python? I am a huge fan of Elite's audio in general and curious of how they handled the new ships...

I would very much like to see the ability to scrap or recycle engineered modules; but I'd love to see an auction house for materials and engineered modules too; but it's PowerPlay restricted & make/model restricted. Grades 1, 2, & 3 are restricted to make, Grades 4 & 5 and Experimental are Make & Model restricted So I can get 6A Thrusters with Dirty Drive at Grade Three from a Dropship and put them on a Gunship; but when they go to Grade 4, they can only be used on the Dropship. Also, the auction houses for Imperial, Alliance & Federal Space are all different, in order to access all 3, it has to be on a Fleet Carrier or Jameson Memorial. I think that would keep things usable and make sense in-game.

I had gotten some midnight black paintjobs (for some ships i didnt even have yet) the past few years so those prices dont affect me, but i still hope they get a decent sale around black friday still

Don't even bother buying any ARX. I literally just try to buy some just to get some stuff. They charged my card but never issued me the ARX stating there was an error. Pending reply from support but don't give a dime to them. If you are going to fix up your store, at least make sure you can actually do a transaction properly.

I'd like to see arx rented warehouses in stations, so commanders can store their commodities rather than being dependant on the size of their cargo holds.

looks great. Are you using any reshade or graphic mods to make it look like this?

Im coming back to this game for the first time since 2016, what id like to see (from the perspective of a noob) is some more guidance in the game of where to go and what to be doing. Its very difficult to learn without asking other players right now.

they have adopted the Star Citizen model, shame the ship it not explorable on foot and has a working interior like in Star citizen.

yes add the scrapping and recycling method of engineered parts

Base building and crafting would be nice additions to the game

Powerplay 2.0, the new unannoucned feature for later in 2024 and the SCO drive might bring me back to Elite later this year :)

I’m going to have to fit one of those new FSDs to my ship

Lots of Paint jobs have been removed as well!!!!

Scapping sounds attractive, also for other modules that didn't prove quite as useful as imagined. Returning between half and a quarter of the materials involved would certainly help shorten the inevitable grind.

5:24 that corvette handles like a bicycle, remebers me to get back to engineering, but I guess I will wait for the balance changes

Monetization of short-term vs. long-term players is a fair point, tbh.

a scrapping mechanic? yes please!

I wasn’t gonna buy it but I think I’m changing my mind 🏴‍☠️

The P2 is fun! Mine's barely engineered but I see a lot of potential. If the next few ships are of this quality, I'll happily throw a few bucks at FDev for early access. I'm not, however, super happy with the move to make Sirius FSDs completely obsolete overnight. I said before that the SCO drives should either come in A rating OR be engineerable, not both. Now that they're both, there's zero reason to ever use a normal FSD. They're just clutter in the outfitting menu now, right with E rated hull refs and C rated internals.

Maybe it will be good time to get back to Elite soon, but for now there is still helldivers 2 and upcoming Homeworld 3.

Bought both regular and stellar, I just like to upgrade the regular bit by bit and it is satisfying. Always sold back the stellar one such that I can deploy it any time I want just feel so cheating and I mostly wont upgrade the stellar one for this purpose

13:50 "As yet unannounced new feature"... wasn't this related to the ships? Wouldn't this be SCO? If they're dropping something even bigger and more meaningful that'd be fantastic!

2:29 how you do that flip?

I'm more hopeful for Elite's future than I have been for years! Even seemingly simple things like the SCO drive are already showing the immense possibility for new gameplay vectors, and while I was concerned about pay2win creeping in, I think they've handled it as well as anyone possibly could; nothing that can be bought outclasses what a veteran can acheive in a fully engineered Adder. The future of the bubble is looking bright right now.

SCO drives are interesting. I think its a mistake to have them superior in every way to the old drives though. Making a module that is so prevalent obsolete overnight seems like a ham fisted decision. I think there should be pros and cons so people think and deliberate over their options.

I'm starting to come back often into the game, but for how long ? I'm starting to play with the power play too, "doing my part" for the faction that I support. Also, gaining reputation to buy later my corvette.

Nice!

I've bought Stellar Edition but I'm on expedition and don't have time or need to fly it.

SCO is so fucking fun, I can't stop yeeting myself around systems

What about the other ships they said were comin? I want a new exploration ship

I can get onboard with a scrapping mechanic, as long as it’s only available at an applicable engineer.

as a deep space explorer i did not buy my self in to the new phython mkII, il just buy it when i get back to the bubble

i just logged into the game from like a year ago and i was wondering why theres none of the big content creators already explaining this and tbh im still a little confused

I like the sound of the SCO and Python changes, I think Frontier over did it with the Arx but Im not going to lose sleep over it lots of other games do it too. However Odyssey on foot content remains completely blocked off to me as a VR user and exploration gameplay whilst ok for new players remains shallow low low for experienced players. Scrapping is a good idea there is no good reason not to have it is my view.

@TheBuurPit what are your thought on Lifetime Expansion Pass owners? Should they be getting the purchasable ships given to them? I feel LEP owners have been completely forgotten about.

i would pay a full price game as dlc for interiors

The sco drive has better stats than a double engineered on tons stats but jump but still jump less far

They didn't just increase the Arx cost per item, they devalued the Arx we already had in our wallets. Cosmetics in game should be cheaper, not more expensive. If Fdev had any sense, they'd realize this is about volume and mass sales. They need to incentivize buy ins, not make them even less tempting. Personally I'm resolved to not play Elite again until the Python Mk II becomes available for credits in game. Tread carefully, Fdev.

Nearly saved up enough Arx for......nothing now.

Are custom, unique paintjobs a thing? Ship kits? Selling advertisements on those giant holographic billboards? More better merchandise? Ammo refills for $ 100😧? New Expansion? If someone wanted to throw more money at Frontier, there isn't a whole lot of options, other than cosmetics and extra accounts.

Some of the flying in this video was truly concerning

Five and a half years is way too long a wait for a new ship in a game based on said ships.

I am very on the fence regards buying ships for ARX. Having said that, the Python MKII is a fantastic ship and well worth the money in my opinion. If this is the future of ARX purchases then I am on board. I have zero interest in the pre built ships at the moment. I also hope they do something with earning ARX, especially the 400 limit for those who have zero interest in the Titans.

Any non-A-rated SCO FSDs are potentially bugged as their stats are all over the place, e.g. B-rated is not heavier and not any more durable than A-rated, D-rated is the same as B-rated only lighter, making the latter useless straight away, and the C-rated, that was in the game since 2 weeks, should have the same stats as non-SCO C-rated FSD but added overdrive and 0.2 or around max-fuel-per-jump added, but it's nowhere resembling the Sirius module.

While I don't like artificially holding back content that's ready to release to make some cash from it, I don't really care about the rest. I've been charged two times after purchasing the main game back then in about 10 years of constant updates. We got a _lot_ for free and I think many people just forget that or are more comfortable with complaining. At the moment I think, someone told Frontier to monetise their only live-service game more effectively, and I also think it's either that or Elite going into stasis. So yeah, I rather take store price increases and gameplay stuff for sale over Elite being forgotten.

Well done. Yes to everything team Burr said. I've long been a voice calling for engineering refunds when scrapping/selling mods (I'd sell half of my 200 stored modules if I could do that). As for everything else, change is always going to be divisive. Lets all take a minute, have a cup of tea, and not resort to game self-sabotaging review bombing.

Soon we'll have two galaxy spanning sims to play. I hope they push each other.

Oh. CMDR Burr? I thought first it was John Oliver!? :P And then to the content: Oh! Be best contributor for your faction, and earn whopping 500 ARX! *WoHoo!* Lets see. You can earn that weekly 400 ARX by playing 2-3 hours. To be a best in faction, at least 2-3 days? Combine both, and you have earned amazing 900 ARX, and with increased prices you can't buy even cheapest paintjob with those, that are at 1600 ARX that I have seen. Gotta be enormous rush to be a best in faction soon? :P :D And there already IS material recycling system for engineered FSD drives! If you pop an elite NPC ship that had engineered FSD in it, it leaves behind some mats! :P

I'm waiting for them to make Engineering more assessable before I get back into the game.

They could just add the SCO ability to every FSD drive, but then we wouldn't have to drive more... Also the game has now many obsolete modules, why?

It's all good

Starfield being such a dud and Helldivers being so big is a HUGE opportunity to implement some likeness to what works and updates to the gameplay loop.

My python mkII is already engineered for AX combat. Earned a half billion this morn.

Need to bring all this ti console

One neat thing about the new paid ships is that even a new player who can't pay for them (or isn't sure yet to sink more money on the game) still serves them, by showing what modules and ships are interesting for that type of activity, being an indirect introduction to ship configuration without the need of a tutorial. About the scrapping, I don't believe that's a good idea. That could cause slight problems with the storage limits (unless FDev lifts or drastically increases them), or just cause a player to have to cycle between scrapping and engineering and keeping an eye on levels. That feels too much micromanagement through screens and menus for me (unless the changes above are taken before that). Worst part is deciding how to approach that from a balance perspective, since it's unlikely FDev tracks how many rolls were needed for each part to reach the point where they are. This results in one of three situations depending on the material return rate: a very good roll could mean a higher return of materials (if the return rate is high); return rates are low enough to prevent that to the point that the scrapping system feels like a such a shortchange that after interacting with it once to change FSDs, no one is ever going to interact with it again; or, eliminate randomness from rolls (which fits their description of making it so there is less variation on engineering) and make the returns from scrapping fixed (still could lead to people feeling shortchanged if the amount of rolls is too low). Putting a mechanic on a game that is designed to not feel rewarding and will only be used by players extremely sparingly feels like a bad design decision. That would also kill one of the most interesting uses of scrapping itself, which is to test out builds without having to guess what will work. Efficient Beam Lasers are nice on distributor power but you overestimated your capacity of keeping under 500m from the target? Scrap for a full return and try another engineering. It would make more sense to rebuild the engineering system in a way that allows easier exchange of engineering configurations without the extra grind. Maybe by making it so unlocking the grades for each type requires a way large amount of materials (compared to engineering one module) but allow that engineering to be applied with only credits going forward. Balancing that would be easier, since FDev already knows what is the acquisition rate of materials in the playerbase. All left is to crunch numbers into what is a feasible time frame to get a particular one to G5, and set those targets. Doing it like this would end the need for scrapping, since you're not throwing out materials anymore, you're throwing out credits. Will give players a slight bad taste at the start, sure, but long time players have the stocks necessary and means to acquire materials fast in order for none of that bad taste to actually matter in the long run. And new players won't even have to know what "rolls" or "95% is enough, don't spend another 5 rolls just for that shiny 100%" means. Better to remove the bullet as a whole than trying to break it into fragments and remove them bit by bit.

This game just required a live economy. Let players sell and buy stuff (including ships) from each other. Would also be nice to increase the insurance fee, 5% is ridiculous. Commanders have tons of credits, and basically nowhere to spend it.

As a long time player, I've already got 40 ships. one of each of the 37, plus an extra one of the big three. Why would I care about this? I don't

this game died with me when any progression on story was locked behind updates and not actual exploration or something a commander or group of commanders does.

First new ship in 6 years and they copy paste interior of python mk1 sad.

What is a "toast rack"?