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Kill la kill saved anime

@@sir.raphimrevelator8644 Kill la Kill is a 1.5/10 at best

Netflix might save horrible, stiff looking, 3D anime.

Friendly reminder that Netflix is a hive of scum and degeneracy (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdN9mtSL0pe8fWQ.html) The best thing they can do for anime is stay the hell away from it.

not like they'll be able to compete with the chinese anyway.

@@BobbyJ529 They defenetly can, they have decades upon decades of experiance, talent and skill iver the Chinese The only place where the Chinese anime industry could beat the Japanese one is in China

@@boltmix7294 Yup. Japanese animation has global appeal. Chinese animation has Chinese appeal. As Netflix's director of Japan & Anime John Derderian has said, "“Japan is certainly among the top two creators of stories in the world with Hollywood." (This quote comes from a Nov 6, 2019 Bloomberg article, "Netflix bets on anime to battle Disney, Apple in streaming wars.") China has to prove it can create much animation with stories which appeal to millions of non-Chinese peoples outside of its borders.

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yea the chinese anime are seriously no joke, none are lacking in talent at all

Thanks! This was a short video, so there's definitely a lot more to cover. Especially regarding the impact of NeZha!

@@TheCanipaEffect for sure. As I said it was awesome to see you not just go in one direction. Mentioning so many things briefly will hopefully lead people to check them out more in depth too. I'm still shocked how few people know how poorly Japanese animators are treated and even more amazed at how long the industry has let it go on for. I'm sure a lot of people who have watched The King's Avatar didnt even realize there is a whole industry of Chinese animation developing either so it was cool to see your handling of it.

It should have been mentioned that China outpaced Japan in production years ago! (in terms of number of shows and minutes of animation) The problem was that most of what was produced was garbage no one will ever hear about. When I first went to China, the government was literally *giving* money away to studios to create content and build the industry. So many studios popped up to take that money, and produced nonsense Flash cartoons that probably cost 1% of the budget they got and they made no real effort to market or sell what they produced. (not that anyone would buy it)

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Overwork Japanese workers is common and this goes beyond just animators. Bigger scope need to be look at.. One of the major factor of the low birth rate and majority of the population are old peoples.

The advantage in political weight that the old generations have over the young, and the inertia of corporations and governments that favours conservatism over experimentation, are a curse all around the world. Name me a place where parliaments and advisory boards are not infested by senile farts yearning for the good old days

I'm sure Netflix will eventualy notice actually nobody prefer 3D anime

They are doing anything they can (the western movie market) to attract the chinese viewers. Because in recent years the biggest income for a lot of movies has been from China. So you can't really blame China for having the buying power.

@@TangSuijin Also, Japanese animated films like Makoto Shinkai's "Your Name" were already huge money makers in China. It makes perfect sense that the same thing which happened with the western movie market will happen with anime.

@@StudioArtFX yea. but that is in no way the fault of china as many of the comments are saying here.

Animated film in China always has style that not my type, I prefer their animated series which mostly done by their own. There are 3D and 2D, both are amazing.

@Huabin Situ i hope that is the case. With more people writing, the more masterpieces i could enjoy.

@@aliasmcgames umm no?, i don't know what are you talking about?, Americans movies ca be about almost everything

Or alternatively there will be a mass exodus of creatives in china resulting in a sudden renaissance in anime related stuff and the industry will experience a boom.

@@gamingrex2930 That's totally unrealistic.

Those wuxia novel are usually written decades ago, mostly from Hong Kong. The recent Chinese youngsters are not so into traditional martial art anymore, the wuxia novel already develop into xianxia(which is a mixed between traditional martial art and cultivation/involved fairy, angel, Demon, heaven kind of things). And for now, the XianXia genre is developed into more fantasy. Which is still has XianXia trace, but more wide, without certain rules. And those mostly written in the form of Web novel. Chinese Web novel can be very long. Edit: And Chinese anime mostly adapted from these Web novel. Soul Land, Battle Through The Heavens, A Record of Mortal Jorney to Immortality, A Will Eternal, Spare Me Great Lord and more.

It's really expensive to set up. And most anime studios aren't exactly rich. So you'll see that Toei has an office in the US that deals with licensing and supervision, but even then, they'd rather dedicated companies deal with dubbing, broadcasting, marketing, and getting it into theaters. Ideally, you've got a system like Aniplex, where as a large Sony company, they can release their own anime overseas. Essentially, it's all about money and most anime studios don't have a lot of it.

@@TheCanipaEffect Question I always wanted to ask. How much will it cost to provide an anime episode if I outsource the entire thing to a studio?

The pirates seem to manage on a near zero budget. One private bit torrent tracker I've used in the past kept track of your upload to download ratio so that they could prevent you from downloading new content if it dropped to low. All the parts necessary to bill someone by an episode file size are there.

China ban anime is beacause they have to protect their own anime industry

@@nanamiyuu7282 no

Because anime, are view by official that usually are old people, they treat anime as cartoon for kids. This is also a problem, Chinese doesn't rated their film, all the show are open from kids to olds. When anime being view by kids, parent always love to complain about it being too violent and blablabla.

@@nanamiyuu7282 Kind of contradictory of China to ban the very art they rip off of.

I agree but hopefully the Chinese government change it policy so they don't have to censor

I agree with this, but there are also things the Chinese audience will like that will influence the direction and development of anime. I’ve read a lot of modern Chinese fantasy and sci-fi novels online, and while there are things I like about them, there are also a lot of common themes and aspects that I don’t want to see become a norm in anime

@@Graestra like what ideas they like

Those are corporations making decisions, not China. China has a right to govern their own country as they see fit. If western corporation decide to bend over backwards for them then blame the corporations.

@@abh5729 no it's government mistake because there use the people like tool and what should corporations do just leave the market and not care about market also I am against any government censorship because it destroy art and leave only politic which most people don't want

Or may go stronger.

I wouldn't be surprised if it lasts for another 50 years.

I don't think this is fair. Western governments have policed media too. Germany is very well known for censoring violence and certain imagery(anything from Nazi flags to Kurdish flags). China is only trying to keep domestic media consumption within their conservative values. It is OUR WESTERN corporations that are being greedy assholes. Don't blame China for doing things the way they see fit. Whatever you think of their style of government they still maintain approval rating up into the 80s due to rapidly improving living standards among other things.

@@abh5729 I think the best way would be for a Western governments to institute laws saying that companies cannot censor their creators a to intentionally court the Chinese market.

@@abh5729 "Western governments have policed media, too." While this is a true statement, in the context of comparing China to the West it's like saying kid frying ants with a magnifying glass and Monsanto are "basically the same thing." @Pandaman "Positive" limits on free speech (i.e. you can't censor yourself) is no different than negative limits. Governments can't be trusted to compel free entities on what they can or can not say.

​@@abh5729 Ah, so conservative value also means suppressing events that make the government look unfavourable such as the Tiananmen Square incident? Also, where did you get the approval rating from? Was it from a state-sponsored census?

@@XthorgoldX Not really. People have been arrested for minor shit like handing out information on contraceptives, anti-war articles(mostly during WWI and WWII), and flying Kurdish flags(In the case of Germany). It's just that western memory of this is non-existent because corporate media serves elite interests in the west just like in China.

In a country that keeps people in barred cages so they don't comit sudoku from the windows due to their appaling work conditions? Aye right.

If non-japanese fans at least support the animators by buying the blu rays because they get a cut from the sales instead of pirating them then all those righteous words are just lip-service.

@@Madhattersinjeans That's fake

Honestly, let's start by not being a hypocrite shall we ? :) how about you ? How do you watch those anime ? Legally or by pirating ? If you want to critic the companies, that's fine and all but you should take a look at the mirror and see whether you have support them financially and ofc legally as well. I for one, have done my best to support the anime by watching them in legal streaming sites and buy blu-ray and action figure toward the ones that I love the most.

Do you think China, the dictatorship, treats their animators better? I highly doubt it.

At older times, it was better than now

well, how much of it is also storyboarded in Korea? Voices?

@@BobbyJ529 Depends on the show, but it can be a lot of it. Of course, there are American artists working Korea too.

@stockart whiteman They used to, but Korea is getting too expensive and they are building up their own, local anime industry now. If you look at current anime, you will see a lot more names from places like Vietnam, Thailand etc. in the credits rather than Korean.

@@StudioArtFX Vietnam staff were involved in lots of 90s and 2000s anime line Dragon Ball Z

@@StudioArtFX No way, really? What's a good Korean anime?

Chinese Animation will rise, then japan will wake up and finally see the competition overseas. Then improve work conditions against a future where their childs watchs chinese media, something I'm sure a lot of japanese would hate. Then, as you said, China will try to convert anime in another propaganda machine but obviously no one is gonna watch that crap, even the young chinese people. In that moment chinese anime will fall apart and a new and stronger japanese industry will rise again.

Sorry for my bad english, but this is what I think will happen.

@@ffls775 Bravo. Finally someone see's the truth.

Don't underestimate how backward Japanese companies can handle things.

It's also not that worth it. The value of the industry right now is measured only in online streaming.

With a dictatorship that bans everything they want and involve politics everywhere I'm sure they won't overcome japanese anime.

Taking over will never be possible if they're not changing their censorship policy. The best thing about anime is its freedom of creativity. They have wide range and everyone with different taste can get "their anime". It has free range to touch any topic and for some people with different cultural and historic background may find certain theme to be scandalous lol. But this freedom exactly the thing that feeds Jpn animation to develop high level of creativity, something that China will never be able to achieve unless they change their way.

I am glad for every region of the world that is beginning to pour its own culture, history, philosophy, and manpower into animation. Japanese animation studios are much more reliant on the domestic market than on revenue from abroad, and as long as there are enough Japanese viewers, anime will prosper. If anything, Chinese dominance in the region will positively ensure that Japan's economy isn't extorted by the American global financial system like through the Plaza Accords

Unfortunately you have to get use to it. But on the positive there so many animation shows to watch from many countries & cultures that at least were not just watching limited to a few.

To be honest, from what I've read, there's a lot of fans in China that don't much like Chinese dubs either. Even the Chinese game Onmyoji brought in Japanese voice actors instead of having it voiced in Chinese.

@@TheCanipaEffect that is funny, but I get it.

We don't like Chinese dub in anime too, just like you guys don't prefer the English dub

Me too. First, the quality as well as the voice variations of the dubbers are just so significant between the Chinese and the Japanese's dubbing. Second which is compeletely biased and subjective, I never really like the sound of Chinese language. On the other hand, I love how the Japanese and South Korean's language sound in my ears.

@@dogeren0096 Assuming anime is created in China, it won't be a dub. The Japanese version will be a dub.

it is, if you have money than you are powerful

That's how it's been for all of history dude From Rome, to The Caliphate, to The colonial Empires and America as well, might makes right in the world.

Yan Ho Cheung they aren’t forced to bow. They want the share in the Chinese market and to make money, if you want to do business there, you do it their way

@Caio Coelho Well, he did say over the last years. Let's not forget the OVA boom of old when lots of weird, original anime got made... just because...

Uh no... China does not decide what manga gets made and adapted, the japanese do. This is ignoring the fact that Chinese companies like tencent are funding a wide variety of shows.

I've pulled historical numbers on this, and an episode of an "average" anime (not cheap but not expensive) will cost roughly $75K-$100K. For comparison, an episode of Cowboy Bebop cost about $200K and Ghost in the Shell: Stand-Alone Complex cost about $300K.

Xi is a massive god-complex james bond villian. He thinks he's doing god's work when in reality he is just erasing the work of people like Deng Xiao Ping.

Depends on the anime. A lot of chinese anime is 3d not 2d. Majority of anime viewers prefer 2d over 3d.

@@BanditLeader Those are old school, youngster now also prefer 3D. 3D if done to safe time, it can be very bad and stiff, but if done correctly, it could be very amazing. Actually quite a lot of Japanese 2d anime nowadays also used some 3d techniques in it. Such as the Doreamon animated film, the highest grossing and successful movie they ever animated for Doreamon, is 3D.

It's literally the only important thing, western anime fans don't buy anime

The magazine is Anime Busience. Combination of "Science" and "Business".

@@TheCanipaEffect Oh. I didn't know that.

Apparently China is paying so much for these (which is boosting anime revenue) that I doubt they'd be able to make a profit if it gets banned. They'd still be entitled to revenue if they invested in the show, but they would likely be planning on success in China.

MR UPLOAD currently they using regional restrictions to make sure that Chinese still watch it(mostly copyright for Taiwan,Hong Kong and Macao ) All they have to do is using VPN to enjoy

@@TheCanipaEffect If the merch does well, since fans will pirate the banned show anyway, they may still be able to make some money that way.

Ok so anime in china is technically bannable. However it requires a significant number of citizens to ask for a ban over a certain show. Or the citizens could literally just use VPN.

He's shocked! He's reacting to Chinese government control and he disapproves!

@@TheCanipaEffect 😅 whew, got me worried there for a second

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Yes. I want my country, the United States, and our president to do what British _Conservative_ leader and Prime Minister Boris Johnson did: Offer millions in Hong Kong the chance to emigrate to the U.K., with the destination in our situation being the U.S. With our current xenophobic, nationalist, nativist president, this isn't going to happen, but with a future president, it might. The United States is a much larger country, size-wise, than the little island country of the United Kingdom, with a much larger population. Therefore, we can accommodate more immigrants from Hong Kong than the British can.

You hit the nail on the head. It showed a child using a firearm in a legitimate case of lethal self-defense. Big no-no over there. Even in the United States, the supposed "land of gun lovers," this is incredibly rare to see. Just 3 years ago, Kevin Sorbo's movie "The Reliant" got slapped with an immediate R-rating because it showed a 12 year old child using a gun to defend himself against a home invader. His production company had to appeal hard to get the movie approved with a PG-13 rating. www.westernjournal.com/producer-christian-film-got-rated-r-no-nudity-sex-bad-language-gore-drugs/

It's used as an excuse to avoid all moral obligations a rational human being should uphold. Typically by Nationalist shills or individuals trying to increase their "social credit score" in China. I wish I was joking.

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This is so stupid. You already have tons of politics in anime already. From Attack on Titan to Full Metal. Maybe it's noticeable because you happen to disagree with them now?

Where?

I don't think that's what he meant. He meant racism because the discussions in question involve Western fans.

@@StudioArtFX Western isn't a race. Caucasian, Japanese and so forth are. Western fans tend to be culturalist more so than racist. I'm not condoning either it's just that the terminology between both get mixed up. Recently people have been attacking other cultures rather than race so I want to use the correct terminology.

@@Flamesofthunder I was trying not to be blatant, but if you look in enough comment sections these discussions almost invariably descend into white folks hating on Chinese people. I won't even get into the names being called. It's racism plain and simple.

@@StudioArtFX I get where you're coming from but that's the thing that annoys me. They hate on Chinese people but they hate on mainlanders. China is big and there are several ethnic cultures, about 53. They're not hating on each of them individually they're the main central representation or ethnic group. However in their targeted attacks they're leaving out other countries that have Chinese heritage for example Taiwan. Therefore I stand by my comment that it isn't racism but culturism. However I understand what you're trying to say it's discrimination and it's tragic people are doing so.

@@StudioArtFX How? No it's not racism when the Chinese government is actively genociding a race of people in it's own borders and uses statewide suppression to stop all internal criticism. And then trying to muscle in on Hong Kong all the while trying to pretend it's somehow the victim. It's poor wee police officers just can't cope with all the big mean protesters who don't want to be beaten and murdered. Police officers who were soldiers a month ago, acting like thugs in another country. Not to mention all the pretence about China being 1 undivided entity like an amoeba. Just ignore what they did to Tibet or Mao's brutal reign of terror on people who were considered intellectuals. To the point where people who wore glasses were murdered. it was the same thing in Soviet Russia, when the Kulaks were oppressed and starved to death in the holodomor. They were done so under the pretense that they were wealthy intellectuals who were somehow different people. All the while, the Chinese government continue to pretend that none of this was wrong or that it ever even occured. And then all the wee nationalist expats get their panties in a twist the moment their glorious motherland is criticised, because they've never seen criticism of their own country before. On account of all the other folks who tried to do so before were silenced and killed. The propaganda is real. You cannot hide behind "but it's racism". When you're talking about a dictatorship like that. China is embracing all the technological breakthroughs of the past few centuries that took years to get used to in other countries while utterly ignoring any social changes that come with it. They never had a renaissance or enlightnement period to adapt to these changes. You look into the history of any "western" country that existed in the 16th century to today. They had massive upheavals that associated social and technological advances, that ultimately helped society as a whole but it took a lot of struggle to get there. You look up the suffragette movement, the coal miner strikes, the move for emancipation. The civial wars that erupted in some countries over slavery But with China there's nothing. Just an empty void. They don't even have proper elections, their citizens have long been brainwashed into thinking alternative governments would lead to chaos. Of course they do, that's what chaos is. Creation. Protests are a sign that your country is doing something right, it means the population are conscious of the rights they have. A lack of them demonstrates a chilling lack of consciousness of those rights. Like robots.

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