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Should You Buy a 2023 Hyundai Palisade? Thorough Review By a Mechanic

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The Car Care Nut Reviews

The Car Care Nut Reviews

Күн бұрын

A Mechanic reviews the updated 2023 Hyundai Palisade to see what's good about it and what's not.
In this video we take a look at the Hyundai Palisade. Many have said that this is a hot model and to a point I agree.
However there's one thing that's unusual about the hyundai palisade. It's powertrain is old school and while some will take that as a good thing, I have some concerns.
We'll do a full technical review, then we'll take a look at the exterior, interior and some things I don't like about the 2023 Hyundai Palisade.
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Under The Hood
7:47 Under The Car
12:57 Exterior
18:45 Interior
32:40 Things I Don't Like
37:15 Final Verdict

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@byronchiu6012
@byronchiu6012 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that someone's reviewing new cars on their serviceability. Even if the audience may not be DIY-ing as much as they use to on older cars, this helps estimate shop labor, longevity, and possible root-causes of common signs/symptoms.
@BrianKenney-wc4qd
@BrianKenney-wc4qd Жыл бұрын
Very unique niche compared to other reviewers, this guy is my favorite reveiwer now by far.
@al151
@al151 7 ай бұрын
A month ago bought a 24 Palisade Calligraphy. It is the most quiet vehicle my family owned. No wind noise and minimum road noise.The tires that come with suv are Hankook and require a break in period with miles on them. If you switch to Michelin tires, they are even quieter. I am a professional mechanical engineer in manufacturing and don’t agree some of the things mentioned in this review. The engine in the Palisade, has been around for many years and even used in Hyundai Genesis models back in the day before Genesis became a separate brand. There has been some revisions made on this engine and it runs very quiet and smooth, even in the winter. Before my purchase, i reviewed all the competition, including Toyota Grand Highlander, Honda Pilot and the Mazda CX90. Thanking god, for me, money was not an issue due to buying it with cash with no payments. I ended with up with the Palisade because it offers the best for the money, in fact it’s hard to believe this suv doesn’t cost more than $60,000. To me, manufacturing in Korea was also a plus. Hyundai makes their own steel and most of their electronics (samsung), they don’t import them like other manufacturers do. That is why the price is lower. Very happy with the purchase and will buy it again, hopefully a hybrid powertrain in the future.
@ericwilliams2786
@ericwilliams2786 5 ай бұрын
Thank you I'm actually trading my 22 genesis this weekend and jumping into a 24 palisade
@Whetherulikeitornot
@Whetherulikeitornot 4 ай бұрын
I picked up a '23 Palisade Calligraphy a year and a half ago. Best vehicle I've ever owned and I've owned many! I added an aftermarket wireless Android Auto module since it didn't come with it. I also had to beef up the stereo but I do that for every vehicle I purchase.
@03kwam65
@03kwam65 4 ай бұрын
Did you hear about the recall for engine replacement
@Whetherulikeitornot
@Whetherulikeitornot 4 ай бұрын
@03kwam65 no why don't you elaborate on that.
@wills2315
@wills2315 4 ай бұрын
I had a 23 SEL Premium AWD, hands down the best car I ever owned. I didn’t even need a limited to get almost all the same features, roomy and comfortable. Unfortunately that only lasted for 1 year and 5 months when hit got hit while parked in a parking lot and was deemed totaled since it got hit so hard went off the frame. I wanted another one easily but my wife wanted hybrid next. Unfortunately there is no palisade hybrids yet, so we went with the Toyota highlander hybrid we got a week ago. So far its a great car since its the regular and not a grand it is a bit on the smaller side which is why i went with the palisade first , its growing on me. Sucks I had to get a limited model just to get 360 camera as with the Hyundai I had that in a SEL premium like the heat and vented seats, you only get that in the front as in the Hyundai you get it in 1st and second rows. But hey both are great quality cars, there is always a trade off somewhere. The plus side its a hybrid and will be saving on gas,
@herczeus9341
@herczeus9341 Жыл бұрын
My dad has been a auto mechanic since he was 20. He’s 80 now. He just bought one of these. And he loves it.
@john12354
@john12354 Ай бұрын
longevity and reliability don't really matter to him at 80
@MrFunkadeIic
@MrFunkadeIic 6 күн бұрын
​@@john12354 I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that's still running perfectly fine. I bought it brand new in 2012. About to take it on a long distance road trip from Florida to Texas.
@eligestetner9627
@eligestetner9627 Жыл бұрын
I understand people don't like the hard plastic seat backs. However the primary market for these suv's are family's and if you have a child behind you having a hard seat back will really help prevent your seat from being kicked in which as an owner of a palisade I really appreciate. Great review!
@rohanvad2802
@rohanvad2802 6 ай бұрын
True, Just the colour could have been matched. Black shows foot prints so easy.
@Marty1857
@Marty1857 Жыл бұрын
This Hyundai Palisade is gorgeous; the reviews have been generally positive, but I felt they were incomplete. I greatly appreciate the objective reviews I see on this channel, as such a thing is becoming more and more rare. You present the good, the bad, and the questionable with solid explanations for each, and that is what I want! You’re not trying to steer anyone towards any destination; you’re simply pointing out the facts, filtered through your professional experiences, and allowing your viewers to make their own decisions on the matter. BRAVO! I’m a happy subscriber, and I hope you continue to give us these unbiased reviews.
@akhere07
@akhere07 Жыл бұрын
Incomplete for what? So palisade is not reliable due to engine if you meant this video is complete?
@tlewatchanon9486
@tlewatchanon9486 Жыл бұрын
@@akhere07probably means the Palisade is incomplete, not the review
@cablebrain9691
@cablebrain9691 7 ай бұрын
@@tlewatchanon9486Clearly the commenter stated that the other reviews were incomplete, and was not indicating the Palisade (although it may be).
@tlewatchanon9486
@tlewatchanon9486 7 ай бұрын
@@cablebrain9691 you were right, my bad
@4ce5bf154
@4ce5bf154 5 ай бұрын
Let's be honest it can't be a 100% "objective review" coming from a toyota service, and it would be the same case for a hyundai service guy reviewing a toyota, it always gonna be bias to their own brands/then countries brands Japan/Korea.
@benjaminkett2223
@benjaminkett2223 Жыл бұрын
Man, this was an incredible review. Nobody dives deep into the internal mechanics that I've seen so far! Please keep up the good work and I look forward to more of your content!
@dwaynescott6281
@dwaynescott6281 Жыл бұрын
I have to say this is a refreshingly detailed review of a vehicle. The details related to the engine, exhaust and suspension, the important info about the plastic oil filter mount...this type of info is what make this review stand out. You know when you have content like this no one has to beg or ask for a subsciption or a like. Keep up the good work
@makowshark
@makowshark 9 ай бұрын
It is a great review.. but many german cars have plastic oil filter housing, the big shock is because its rated for 5,000lb towing.. its one POV but its nice to see a thorough review
@kwangnam9993
@kwangnam9993 Жыл бұрын
This is what many of us were looking for! Not what the car appears to be the first 30K miles but longevity and long-term consequences of owning the vehicle. Keep it up and we'll keep watching! Just subscribed.
@Bryan_Hunt
@Bryan_Hunt 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I buy it though because previous hyundai vehicles that used the lambda 2 engines have actually had good consumer reports with their engines and not many failures even past 200k miles so I'm not sure what's up with the unnecessary hate towards the powertrain. he'll most definitely be eating his words about that one.
@Tragick_Sin
@Tragick_Sin 4 ай бұрын
@Bryan_Hunt hes a machanic that works on the engines and studys common engin failures...he is not paid by hyundai like those consumer report websites,
@gamingwitharlen2267
@gamingwitharlen2267 3 ай бұрын
@@Tragick_Sin How is consumer reports paid? You just made that up.
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 Жыл бұрын
More reviews like this will catapult you straight to 1 million subscribers. This is what is surely missing in KZfaq car reviews. We care about luxury, comfort, quietness, power, safety, features, sound systems and long term RELIABILITY. We don’t care about exhaust noise, steering feedback and other “sporty” nonsense.
@mulleygraves
@mulleygraves Жыл бұрын
this, so much this. It seems like the average car reviewer is the result of a spoiled kid who just loved Fast and Furious ricers and now has a KZfaq channel (see Matt Maran motoring).
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
@@mulleygraves What about him? He likes to actually drive cars.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
This is anti-enthusiasm if I ever see it.
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 Жыл бұрын
Why’d you buy it in the first place if you didn’t care about all those things?
@ozzierabbit587
@ozzierabbit587 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that CR said this about Palisade noise: "The Palisade is pleasantly quiet with good road and wind isolation. There is an unobjectionable engine hum in the background. The sound character is very similar to the Telluride and more serene than several competing models. SEL models and above get thicker side glass to further reduce noise".
@sunildhuri3991
@sunildhuri3991 Жыл бұрын
This review was great and exactly what i was looking for. All reviewers talk about how good this car is, no one talks about the mechanical and reliability perspective. Thanks AMD
@chuckwalla2967
@chuckwalla2967 Жыл бұрын
But his raised concerns are just speculations on his part, not actual facts.
@tabatchoy
@tabatchoy Жыл бұрын
@@chuckwalla2967 Of course not. It's a 2023 model. Given Hyundai's track record, give it 2-4 years and I wouldn't be surprised if his speculations come true.
@dhurisunil
@dhurisunil Жыл бұрын
@@chuckwalla2967 When you are investing almost $60K in a Calligraphy, it is good to know what goes inside. On the Palisade forums i see there are a lot of quality issues reported. Someone reported that their car had name "SADEPALI" on the back because of production mistake , it wasn't even noticed till the time of delivery. If this is the case about obvious things, god knows what quality goes in. I kind of equate Hyundai to Samsung products , glossy and full of best features but once you start using them they just fall apart too fast.
@jeffruebens8355
@jeffruebens8355 Жыл бұрын
@@dhurisunil I am typing this on a Samsung S-8 phone that is about 7 years old, and still works well. See the Carsthatlast videos for older vehicles that tend to be more reliable. If a design has only been sold for 3 years so far, very little is known about reliability at 200 thousand miles plus. Like everything human, some lie and some exaggerate, ask around for ratings. Also look at resale value, the vehicles with a better reputation are worth more used. I looked into buying a used Lexus, and for the one I wanted it had to have over 100 thousand miles to get the price down to a similar Mazda with 15 thousand miles. Mazda reputation is held down by their previous rotary engines and automatic transmissions, that have been dropped or improved since about 2012.
@sunildhuri3991
@sunildhuri3991 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffruebens8355 thanks good to know Samsung has improved. I used to have am S3 which fell apart within a year . True regarding resale values
@kphillips98
@kphillips98 11 ай бұрын
Great review. I just purchased a 2023 Palisade Caligraphy and absolutely love it. I am 75 and like the luxury of a Cadillac so you know where I am coming from. I also have 4 grandchildren and want to have the space of a 3 row SUV. The Palisade blew me away for what I was paying for. Great interior with lots of space and very good technology that greatly exceeded my expectations. The ride quality and performance of the V6 are totally acceptable for what I need. I learned a lot from your video on the engine (hydraulic lifters and carbon build-up) and it does concern me, but the car is garaged (I live in Chicago) so hopefully it won't be a huge problem. The 60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty and 100,000 mile drive train warranty, might help mitigate the problem.
@ralphlazio505
@ralphlazio505 6 ай бұрын
@Kphillips - Direct injection systems require premium fuel (91octane +) I worked for Lexus for over 13 years. When the direct injection system was implemented in Lexus vehicles, we had the same issue with direct injection. As it turns out, people were using regular octane fuel, when they should have been using premium gas. I’m sure that if you use premium fuel you’ll avoid those direct injection issues. Direct injection requires premium fuel. Happy travels sir 👍🏼
@erichubbard7754
@erichubbard7754 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting I have never considered this
@xclusivetheslayer490
@xclusivetheslayer490 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@ralphlazio505Lexus owner manuals claim that normal fuel is completely okay for the engine. It’s optional, but it probably helps
@swissmrkc
@swissmrkc 5 ай бұрын
It definitely. Needs premium.....if keeping car more than 5 years....fill all GDI cars with premium no matter what theanufacturer says, they wanna sell car, saying premium required kills alot of buyers.
@chargedx1
@chargedx1 7 ай бұрын
You have confirmed what I always thought about these SUVs. They can give you such interiors because they cut cost on mechanical. People love shiny things, and people generally don't know about engines, transmissions and their history.
@yomaarka3545
@yomaarka3545 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Car Care Nut, I think you got something here. This is a niche, your ability to perform an unbiased technical review. Much deeper than Savagegeese’s attempt. Keep it up and in no time your channel will be the last step people go to before finally deciding to buy a new or pre-owned car. 👊🏼👍🏻
@davewilson7602
@davewilson7602 Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. It’s nice and in depth, I feel like savagegeese used to do longer videos that were more technical but those parts have been stripped out of newer videos with the same information available nowhere else like description and website. I appreciate how this is much more in depth
@JDMSwervo2001
@JDMSwervo2001 Жыл бұрын
@@davewilson7602 it’s definitely got some bias in here not only that I don’t think he knows this is Hyundais most reliable powertraim combo
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
Does he still do the audio system analysis? It was the only resource for comparison out there.
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 Жыл бұрын
These are good videos but are maybe Asian vehicle specific. American and German products maybe absent for obvious reasons.
@lthemanl
@lthemanl Жыл бұрын
CCN for Engine/Reliability talk, SavageGeese for enthusiast driving impressions and more knowledge on competitive models (team of two and have been reviewing cars for longer).
@studmuffin8859
@studmuffin8859 Жыл бұрын
After watching several of your reviews recently I am beginning to see how I need to move on from the dozen or so other car reviewers that I have highly regarded. You Sir have earned position Number 1 in my car reviewer hit parade. Keep'em coming! Thanks!
@jaqueitch
@jaqueitch Жыл бұрын
Definitely a "detail oriented" guy 👍
@joetang5636
@joetang5636 Жыл бұрын
@@jaqueitch 8:06
@Arcticfox7
@Arcticfox7 Жыл бұрын
He is just another Toyota fan boy. He just bought a Lexus GX lol, an overpriced rip off Toyota rattle box with leather seats and useless navigation
@jaqueitch
@jaqueitch Жыл бұрын
@@Arcticfox7 you're the only one who I've ever heard say anything negative about this guy. He is the best out there
@Arcticfox7
@Arcticfox7 Жыл бұрын
@@jaqueitch all the flaws he mentioned are potential problems. He has no idea those mentioned parts will go bad or cause problems. That’s not how Toyota did it, so it’s bad. That’s his philosophy. Get a clue!!!
@AngiaHarrison
@AngiaHarrison 4 ай бұрын
I purchased the 2023 Palisade in June of 2023. It's been in the shop three times. First time a code pop on the dash. Second time the vehicle turned itself off in traffic. Third time it wouldn't accelerate in traffic. It's been at dealership in Clarksville, TN for three weeks and it still has not been seen by mechanic. Purchased the vehicle to transport my disabled kids to doctors' appointments but now I just think it's dangerous to my family. If I could do it again I would have never purchased this suv.
@EG-235
@EG-235 Жыл бұрын
This channel really provides professional reviews that really help people make good vehicles purchase decisions unlike those KZfaq videos that only discuss the look of the car and take it for a spin, keep up the good work my friend, can’t wait for the next episode.
@theholt2ic219
@theholt2ic219 Жыл бұрын
Probably the best car reviewer I have seen. This is exactly what someone who does research on car wants before making the purchase.
@M.W.H.
@M.W.H. Жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews out there. Please man, do the 2023 Pilot when possible.
@josiahpeterham5441
@josiahpeterham5441 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please review the 2023 pilot! Deciding on the 23 Pilot Touring vs. The 22 Palisade Calligraphy
@Solrak8O
@Solrak8O Жыл бұрын
Really solid car. A family member has a 2022 model and no issues in the 18 months of ownership.There only complaint is it drinks fuel but it's a boxy-shaped, heavy SUV with a big V6 engine, so to be expected! Yes the plastics on the rear of the seats are a cost cutting exercise but also by design. Small kids love to kick up the back of the seats so plastic is a wiser choice, harder wearing and easier to clean!
@user-ys7gb5fu9h
@user-ys7gb5fu9h 10 ай бұрын
We are on our second Palisade and it is a great ride for the family. I call it a Korean FWD Range Rover. The weakest point is the dealerships suck with service. Our included maintenance contract takes forever for appointments and they do not address our minor issues.
@TwilightZoneX
@TwilightZoneX Жыл бұрын
Scotty will LOVE your review, especially the final conclusion. Lol. Honesty but polite opinion from a Master Technician, good job.
@partone709
@partone709 Жыл бұрын
Scotty hates small turbocharged engines, his preference is for larger naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engines that may be more old school proven technology.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
Whi gives a F what a old scotty has to say u scotty sheeps
@Soul_N_Control
@Soul_N_Control 6 ай бұрын
Scott doesn't know everything
@jeaguilar3033
@jeaguilar3033 Жыл бұрын
This video influenced me so much that I decided today to upgrade from my Santa Fe to a Palisade. Thanks so much for the clarity on what is "not the end of the world", ok, good and great... The mechanics explanation was very cool: thanks!!!
@bernardchuachun8494
@bernardchuachun8494 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how the review steps away from the usual 'test drive' or short-term view. Typical reviews don't consider maintenance costs which include how something can break, or how easily or how difficult it is to replace certain parts. Great stuff!
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
The problem is that most of the information he presents about reliability are wrong. Plus Hyundai offers a 10 year - 100K mile warranty on the powertrain.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 10 ай бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw Does a larger warranty automatically translate into higher reliability?
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw 10 ай бұрын
@@mottom2657 No the warranty does not automatically make the car more reliable. Initially back 30 years ago they started that 10 year - 100K mile warranty (offered in USA only) because Hyundai had a reputation of being unreliable, which was true at time. By offering the warranty they forced themselves to make better cars, and if you look at at the rating agencies who measure reliability now, they have good reliability. I have a 2009 Hyundai Genesis with the 3.8L V6 and it has been extremely reliable (but only 80K miles), far better than my 2 Toyotas. But regardless, having the warranty is better than not having it, so long as Hyundai honors the warranty, and in my experience being on many Hyundai owner forums Hyundai does honor their warranties just as good as anyone else. In terms of unit sales, Hyundai is now the 3rd largest automaker in the world only behind Volkswagen and Toyota. Back in 1960's anything made in Japan was junk, but they turned that around. Same has happened in Korea in the last 15-20 years with brands like LG, Samsung, and Hyundai. If people want to live their live looking at the world in their rear-view mirror, I think they are making a mistake, but not my problem. Up until recently the Palisade has been in such demand that dealers have been getting $5K over MSRP for the higher trim levels, and I am hoping that demand moderates and prices come down.
@Jose_cab
@Jose_cab Жыл бұрын
Just got myself a 2023 palisade calligraphy for my family and we love it. Drives great and Super comfortable. Took it on 2 trips already one trip was to Santa Cruz and was about a 800 mile trip (going & coming) and the second was to Salt Lake City and was about a 1600 mile trip (going & coming) and it was snowing in Utah and both trips were easy and smooth. Didn’t have any trouble with anything. I will make sure to come back when my car falls apart because this seems what everyone who drives a Toyota says about Hyundai. I myself like to think part of it is the way the owner takes care of their car but what do I know. Anyone who might be interested in this SUV I truly recommend it. It has space in all 3 rows. I’m not the tallest guy at 5’7 but being in the 3rd row I would say even at 5’10-5’11 you will have enough room in 3rd row to sit for even a longer drive. If you have any questions feel free too ask.
@kuyre2239
@kuyre2239 Жыл бұрын
Hyundai under investigation for recent Palisade windshield wipers’ recall December 18, 2022 Joseph Estabillo Hyundai Recalls Fountain Valley, CA - December 18, 2022 - The U.S. government’s auto safety regulator is investigating Hyundai (NASDAQ:HYMTF) regarding “the scope and remedy” of a recent recall conducted for faulty windshield wipers. The investigation could result in a recall of an additional 126,081 cars, including the following: 2021 Hyundai Palisade 2022 Hyundai Palisade 2023 Hyundai Palisade
@express5079
@express5079 Жыл бұрын
Is it reliable...
@Jose_cab
@Jose_cab Жыл бұрын
@@express5079 I mean I just got it and driven about 3k miles and so far everything has been good but it’s too soon to know but I’m happy for now.
@express5079
@express5079 Жыл бұрын
@@Jose_cab thanks
@aarg2609
@aarg2609 Жыл бұрын
Interesting choice friend. Very interesting.
@nickmartin177
@nickmartin177 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the best car review I've seen on KZfaq. Well Done. Subscribed!
@zackwatson6438
@zackwatson6438 10 ай бұрын
Very excellent points and professional presentation! I would like to mention (as a Toyota/Lexus fanboy) and someone who briefly owned a 2020 Sonata Limited and got burnt, but recently traded in our 2017 MDX (shoddy trans at 101k) for a gently used 2021 Palisade, I prefer the "old-school" PT solely because at this point their 3.8L NA V-6 and 8-spd trans are rather legacy products, but proven and have ideally worked the kinks out compared to their newer applications.
@jinschacko977
@jinschacko977 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to your in-depth interview. The strategy is great. Instead of going to the peripherals first, you begin right from the engine compartment. It really helps people not to be pulled by the other less important aspects such as interior and exterior.
@robgrune3284
@robgrune3284 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ! Finally, someone comments upon the design, engineering, materials of vehicles. The review is yet cursory, but still better than others.
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 Жыл бұрын
These videos give a high level of information, helps us to see beyond the paint and provides an insight into the manufacturer. Thank you AMD, good video.
@1Maineguy
@1Maineguy Жыл бұрын
I just took the family from Maine to Florida and back in our 23 calligraphy. the highway drive was not loud at all. I have seen with some people have complained about the road noise, but it is not an issue in our vehicle.
@medo-he2xn
@medo-he2xn 10 күн бұрын
Bought the 2020 sel new model and have put on 90k miles on the odometer so far this suv has been the most reliable i have ever bought other than normal maintenance (spark plugs and raptured radiator hose ,brake pads ) i absolutely love it .
@lucbelair
@lucbelair Жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone is talking about reliability and not just bells and whistles and 0-60 in 5.2 seconds thank you
@chuckwalla2967
@chuckwalla2967 Жыл бұрын
But he's just guessing, though.
@JDMSwervo2001
@JDMSwervo2001 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckwalla2967 exactly. He’s not fully aware of how durable this powertrain has been. He’s a Toyota technician
@donc6781
@donc6781 Жыл бұрын
With Hyundai’s & Kia’s reputation it’s a very good bet that it will be a piece of junk
@mohammedal-salami8592
@mohammedal-salami8592 Жыл бұрын
Your explanation came from maintenance way and no youtuber discribe like that , i love your opinion about cars that's you present every episode
@billytakoho5046
@billytakoho5046 Жыл бұрын
Because those youtubers got paid by Hyundai. Seriously, when you look at the underneath of the car, you really think it is better than a Toyota/Honda?
@MultiMusicbuff
@MultiMusicbuff Жыл бұрын
@@billytakoho5046 ,even if they're not paid by Hyundai (Savagegeese is a good example),they know something about suspension set-up but nothing about engines & transmissions.After all,almost all other KZfaq reviewers are not mechanics and they sound like academics.
@iana36s
@iana36s 5 ай бұрын
The large number of people that walk into a dealership and fall in love with the interior and gizmos are also oblivious to the value of repairability and long term reliability. Do I really want to stare into my instrument cluster when changing lanes. Hyundai and Kia have figured out this buyer and have focused most of their attention on what people can see. On the other hand you have Honda and Toyota building car that mechanics and owners can appreciate for years to come. What you don’t see doesn’t make it not important as many Hyundai/Kia owners will find out sooner than later. 🎉
@Tom-dz6yo
@Tom-dz6yo 7 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate AMD and his expert mechanical opinions. This channel is one of the few whose opinions on that level that I trust. I'm not a current Toyota owner, but I'm the original owner of a 2017 Kia Sorento, an engineer, and a shade tree mechanic so I feel qualified to offer my opinion on the reliability of the mechanicals of the power train being discussed here. My Sorento has the Hyundai 3.3l V6 engine. It is the exact same engine in the new Palisade. The only difference is the new V6 has been bored out to give 3.8l vs the 3.3l. part of the reason I settled on the 2017 Sorento was because the 3.3l has a long history with Hyundai and Kia, with few problems. Same goes for their 6 speed transmission, now an 8 speed. Yes, this engine can be viewed as 'old school ' because Hyundai didn't adopt hydraulic lifters, but don't view this as a connection to poor reliability. Many Honda engines also never adopted hydraulic lifters. So you should check valve clearances on Hyundai, Kia, and Honda's. No big deal and done every 100-150k miles. My Sorento at 85k miles has zero top end engine noises that would warrant me thinking It has valve clearance issues. I had my daughter get her 2011 CR-V's valves gapped at the dealer at 160k just for peace of mind and no adjustment was necessary. Understand that these vehicles are well maintained and synthetic oil is used and changed every 4k. Other than routine maintenance on both the Sorento and the CR-V there have been no issues or repairs to these vehicles. The 2017 Sorento drives just as good in 2024 as the day we bought it and lm anticipating we'll get the 200+k miles out of it that we're expecting. One other comment. A great Toyota feature/design/innovation is the GDI and PFI as AMD suggests. Hyundai/Kia have adopted this design on their 2.5l 4 cyl., but not the V6. I suspect it isn't on the V6 because that engine is going to get phased out because of the tightening emission standards, just as was the case with Toyota discontinuing their V6 in 2023. Though Hyundai and Kia V6's don't have the dual fuel injection systems, that isn't reason for me to avoid them since the overall reliability of their V6 has otherwise been excellent.
@codygibson3765
@codygibson3765 5 ай бұрын
So in your opinion a well maintained Telluride should last a long time barring any abnormalities in build quality? Asking in case we purchase one
@nowlen
@nowlen 4 ай бұрын
@@codygibson3765 Telluride is made in the US, and Palisade is made in Korea. I got the Palisade.
@Papolucho702
@Papolucho702 Жыл бұрын
Got rid of ours back in 2020 after 5 months for a 4Runner and it is like night and day in build quality. Palisade is a nice place to be, short term, and that’s it.
@harrywalker4922
@harrywalker4922 Жыл бұрын
Ditto, Traded in a Hyundiai Sante Fe less than a year (not the same engine) for a 4runner TRD OR
@curbozerboomer1773
@curbozerboomer1773 Жыл бұрын
Nice...if you are not on a budget!..The extra $20 grand is not worth it, to me!
@al151
@al151 Жыл бұрын
Why 4Runner though? It gets bad gas mileage and can only carry 5 people. It does have off road capability same segment as a Jeep Wrangler. Palisade is a bigger family vehicle with more luxury and amenities. The only problem is though never ever go for a first year production vehicle. It will always have problems. That’s my advice!
@moloono1
@moloono1 Жыл бұрын
4R crew unite! My parents have had their Limited with the 3rd row for a long time. They love it and they love knowing that it’ll get them out of hazardous road conditions and take them on off-roading adventures.
@donc6781
@donc6781 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s an Upgrade! Great job 👍
@Vin3Man
@Vin3Man Жыл бұрын
Unbiased review with a critical eye is what we as consumers need, not all the other channels who just review with kid gloves.... BRAVO! MORE MORE MORE!
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
Why is this an unbiased review. The guy is a Toyota mechanic and owns a Lexus.
@MAXF1P1
@MAXF1P1 11 ай бұрын
I used to own a Pallisade and found the servicing dealers to be a nightmare. I sold mine and purchased a Lexus GX460. Top notch
@yal100
@yal100 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar review!👍 Americans love old fashioned, long in the tooth, tried and tested V6 engines. Hyundai hit it out of the park for the USA. There is a reason the Pallisade and Telluride SUVs sell like hotcakes and are praised in every US publication. Reliability you say, HA! We dont keep them that long anymore. People like me who hold them for 10+ years are a minority.
@cubist12
@cubist12 Жыл бұрын
We're currently driving a 2011 Sienna and a 2015 Odyssey. Was looking at this and the Telluride, but I feel like the way we abuse our cars is going to prey on all the weaknesses that he pointed out. Odyssey has been a total lemon, but the Sienna has been totally solid. May wait to see what the Grand Highlander is like.
@lacloidi2003
@lacloidi2003 Жыл бұрын
💩 🚗 😂
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@cubist12 There is no factual or statistical basis for anything this guy said about Hyundai reliability, other than possibly the carbon build up issue (common to most all GDI engines). He is a Toyota mechanic.
@suzamac3260
@suzamac3260 6 ай бұрын
My Sante Fe 2010 has this v6 engine. 260,000 miles and never touched. Same with transmission. Burns a bit of gas. I don’t drink so I can afford a car that does. But not by much. I can pass everything. Never missed a day on the road. AWD Ploughs through snow and mud. What more do you need in a car?
@shanxxsxx
@shanxxsxx Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best reviews I have ever seen! Please do the same with more brands/ models. Thank you for sharing!
@ronaldbarnett548
@ronaldbarnett548 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen anyone take time to explain an SUV vehicle the way that you do. I will be coming back for more. This is a great idea to give details on different types of SUV. Thank you!
@sagut0
@sagut0 Жыл бұрын
A masterpiece of review. No funny quirks, just wisdom and expertise in a video. 🧠
@zacht678
@zacht678 Жыл бұрын
These videos are some of the best reviews on KZfaq. Keep up the good work
@desertstar223
@desertstar223 Жыл бұрын
This man is so good mannered, he wont say directly it's a nonsense engine. He just leaves bread crumbs all over the place.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
Why is it a nonsense engine?
@sly9263
@sly9263 Жыл бұрын
​@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 because the overwhelming majority of manufacturers have moved to hydraulic lifters as well as dual direct and port injection to keep the valves clean. its covered in plastic and runs hot, which is especially egregious with the housing around the oil filter that will inevitably leak. this isn't some port injected, reliable tried and true engine that you're getting as a trade off for it's age; this is a bad design from 15-20 years ago that other manufacturers already learned their lessons from while hyundai is still selling it and having to throw significant warranty promises to bait people in
@desertstar223
@desertstar223 Жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 just follow the bread crumbs, don't you understand this expression?
@joebrown9621
@joebrown9621 Жыл бұрын
@@sly9263 On the contrary being some what old school is a good thing.. the plastic filter housing has been used on other previous models and surprisingly haven't been a problem .. one good thing if u get some DIY'er that ruin the threads on the housing its so cheap to replace without the need for sealant, cleaning or mess, it bolts on and off in lineral minutes
@joebrown9621
@joebrown9621 Жыл бұрын
@@sly9263 this engine design is not from 15 years ago 😂😅 its way newer .. let be clear lower viscosity oil can be agood however one trade off is that they have a higher rate of burn off.. thus a catch 22 for those who never like check their oil especially has the engine wears in
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
AMD, As it is January 1, 2023 today, it will be easy to keep track of how long it takes Hyundai/Kia to send you another car 😉😉😉
@pn2543
@pn2543 Жыл бұрын
that interior is truly amazing, congratulations to Hyundai designers and builders
@Wootenomics
@Wootenomics 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your detailed, honest reviews. My problem now is that I fear I will never find a car in my price range that has decent reviews. I'm afraid to buy anything.
@ZenaBaywell
@ZenaBaywell 2 ай бұрын
Same here. Some people are claiming they have had good experiences with cars, but others have not. I don't want to be the one paying the car note for a car that can't stay out of the shop
@woonpark9494
@woonpark9494 5 ай бұрын
I bought a Hyundai 2024 palisade calligraphy night edition few month ago and this is a second car from Hyundai which was Santa Fe ,after 180000 miles ,since 2011 . I love every bit of quality Hyundai offered and price I paid for . Thanks for your very intelligent knowledge of car and in-put.
@blazinnyce
@blazinnyce Жыл бұрын
Dude...this is a niche segment that's untapped. Keep it up and you can live off KZfaq earnings. Great videos!
@Zephyrdaze1819
@Zephyrdaze1819 Жыл бұрын
I DID learn something today, thank you. Really fascinating insights on this review. I thought the car’s summation as “A sad dream” was absolutely hilarious. Keep up the great work!
@musclecarsrt2324
@musclecarsrt2324 10 ай бұрын
I just want to say thank you for the honest reviews. When you speak about a engine either having direct injection or direct and port fuel injection, that is excellent advice because there is very little information when tiring to find this information on the web or from a sales person. Keep up the great reviews and from a former mechanic for over 30 years you do a great job.
@michaeln4018
@michaeln4018 11 ай бұрын
Huge thank you for these reviews. The average folk like us have no idea anymore what risks we take when buying cars. The more you expose the more the audience knows what technologies to avoid and what to adopt.
@williamdrijver4141
@williamdrijver4141 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Most car "journalists" have no clue if they open the hood. Many have no idea what they are talking about. So highly informative to finally have someone talking about a new car who actually does know a lot of stuff many viewers don't!
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
The problem is that he is a Toyota mechanic and not objective. For example, BMW, MB, and Audi use the same kind of plastic filter housing as Hyundai, which are far superior to the poorly machined metal ones used by Toyota.
@JPRC
@JPRC Жыл бұрын
Best full review on KZfaq. Keep up your great work. I love the fact you show the underside and discuss long term potential issue in design and all the technical detail. We don’t need to know how sporty the family suv. Your review is on point. Really really well done.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
It would be useful if everything he said was correct, but he is a Toyota mechanic and not exactly objective, and many of things he said are just wrong. For example, BMW, MB, and Audi use the same kind of plastic oil filter cap as Hyundai, because they are extremely reliable.
@simond8620
@simond8620 4 ай бұрын
I am a mechanic too and I love the thoroughness of this review and looking past the right now and looking 5-10 years ahead that he offers. We have an Australian mid-spec model that doesn’t have the heated/cooled seats, but does have auto fold mirrors. As for the power train, I opted for the turbo diesel AWD after researching and driving both fuel options and I found the diesel to be vastly superior, and largely addressed his “old school” concerns (which I shared) about the V6 petrol. The key with any car, and I’ve owned many from new and second hand it meticulous maintenance and servicing - Well-maintained cars rarely breakdown and spending small pennies up front on preventative and routine maintenance saves big dollars when there’s an inevitable mechanical failure if you don’t. Adhere to service guidelines strictly (especially the definition of extreme usage conditions by the manufacturer) and your motoring experience will be virtually trouble free. Skimp and become lax with schedules, and you’re inviting expensive bills. A great review and excellent intelligent expert insight - Now subscribed.
@josiahstearns9615
@josiahstearns9615 Жыл бұрын
First, let me just say that I love your approach. You’re even tempered, you’re contemplative (asking questions that we, as the buyer, should be asking), and you take a deeper look at vehicles that many channels don’t offer. PLEASE PLEASE keep doing these. I know you are primarily a Japanese geared mechanic (mainly Toyota) - but I appreciate the fact that you don’t stay in the lane. You take an objective look at what other manufacturers are producing and help us with our decision making. And it’s not a “don’t buy this car” sort of statement (although i am sure if that car was horribly engineered and had limited reliability you would say so)… but you leave us with things to consider and little warnings to take note of…..”here are some things that you, as the buyer, may encounter down the road, so just bear that in mind.” A couple things I did want to point out is I would like it if you had some links to other videos on certain parts of the engine to help us understand what it does or what a good way of engineering those parts should look like. There were a couple points during the hood segment where i wasn’t entirely sure what would have made it better and i totally understand that with a video that is already nearly 40 minutes long, you can’t take an extended amount of time to explain simple things on every video…. But a little direction to learning a little more on key things in the engine bay would help. The other thing i wanted to say is that - yes, Hyundai did, technically, cut corners with the rear of the driver and passengers seat with not wrapping the seat fully with leather. But i will say that this is something that I prefer in I mainstream cars. Because a lot of common buyers are going to go after vehicles like this…. And those common buyers who shooting for 3 row seats likely have a decent number of kids - and some may still be in car seats…… rainy, muddy days - messy dirty shoes - right on the back of that nice leather > no thank you. I’m glad they covered it with plastic…. Makes it easier to clean and less stressful to think about the fact that the leather now looks awful or continues to look awful because of those kids in the car seats. From the average consumer - that is something I appreciate… That’s a corner i don’t mind being cut. Let them jump into a Genesis, Lexus… etc if they want a more premium feel.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
As you mentioned, Hyundai was not really cutting corners when making the back of seats plastic. Besides, very, very few cars that have leather seats have real leather on the backs of them. Most leather seating "trim" has synthetic leather on the rear and sides of the seats, for almost every manufacturer except maybe those over $100K.
@alittlecomplicated1844
@alittlecomplicated1844 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciated the criticisms of this vehicle. Makes your review have so much more value and credibility in my book!
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he is a Toyota mechanic who owns a Lexus. Why are his comments credible?
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 10 ай бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw u mad?
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw 10 ай бұрын
@@theglowcloud2215 I explained in detail elsewhere in these comments that the guy is a Toyota mechanic working at a Toyota dealer who has no idea what he is talking about. For example, he criticized the “plastic” oil filter cap that is actually polycarbonate and virtually unbreakable and the same one used by BMW, Mercedes, and many other premium brands who use a Mahle Oil Management System. This guy is an idiot who thinks that if it is not the same as the way Toyota does it then in is inferior. Ironically many Toyota owners complain on forums about the poorly machined Toyota filer cap made metal that strips the threads on the oil filter assembly. Almost all of his other comments are equally inane.
@MrGpoulin
@MrGpoulin 8 ай бұрын
Looks like a vehicle where lots was invested on looks, on what will appeal to the average buyer, and shortcuts were taken on the mechanical side - what the average buyer won't see or pay attention to.
@desertmodern7638
@desertmodern7638 Жыл бұрын
Unlike most recent high-end cars (or Cadillacs of the last half-century), the Hyundai/Kia rear auto leveling does not have a separate compressor for the shocks. I believe they've devised a less expensive passive system involving rear shocks that generate lift from vehicle motion when higher loads dictate. I suspect that's why those rear shocks are weirdly large.
@tauijaymin2840
@tauijaymin2840 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata SE with over 135k miles with only two problems electric steering wheel and the coolant thermostat. No engine or transmissions issues at all. I decided to buy a 2021 Santa Fe and it been a great car.
@Katieandcabot
@Katieandcabot Жыл бұрын
Amazing review AMD! Hearing the honest thoughts from a professional reliable mechanic is simply invaluable!
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
He is a Toyota mechanic. I don't think his comments are objective.
@benb2358
@benb2358 Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw most certainly not, that's the vibe I've gotten - Scotty Kilmer with a less abrasive delivery.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@benb2358 Correct, most certainly not objective, since he works (or previously worked for, not sure) for a Toyota dealer as a mechanic. I think he is decent guy, but not an automotive engineer and is clueless when it comes to the way other companies do things, especially those using Mahle oil management systems with a polycarbonate filter cap (which is far superior to the POS system used by Toyota).
@pnketia
@pnketia Жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel because nobody else does in depth reviews like this and this is great to hear from a mechanic's perspective.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
He is a Toyota mechanic, so not objective IMO.
@tugboatjd
@tugboatjd 10 ай бұрын
Beware of this vehicle, ive got a 2020 AWD with 38k and its burning oil heavily. Its been towed in twice. We are about to get rid of it due to the run around at the dealer and hyundai corporate.
@vasilerobitu5401
@vasilerobitu5401 11 күн бұрын
how did you resolve the issue? I have a sorento 2020, with 36,000, that started consuming oil
@paulmacfarland4406
@paulmacfarland4406 10 ай бұрын
From a real world owner of a Hyundai Palisade. Bought it new in 2020 in Limited trim. Absolutely loved this SUV from the point of value for the $$$. Very luxurious, smooth, powerful and good on gas. As he stated the power train is the weak link in this vehicle. After only 17000 miles the engine started burning oil to the tune of (1) quart every 17000 miles. Called Hyundai and they told me that using ONE quart every 1000 miles was normal. Dead serious. Really?? Went from a Toyota to Hyundai thinking they had stepped up their game om quality/reliability. I was wrong. Never again.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 10 ай бұрын
How often were you changing the oil?
@manofsesame3024
@manofsesame3024 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t one quart every 1000miles normal for most of the VolksWagon line ups? Not saying VW products are any sort of bench mark but just saying one quarter/1000 miles is not unnormal
@BucketOBits
@BucketOBits Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! The comment about the interior noise surprised me because I just watched a different video review where a db meter was used, and at highway speeds the Palisade came in at the lower end of the noise spectrum relative to comparable SUVs.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
Some of the early versions of Palisade had wind effect issues with the outside mirror, assembly, but supposedly that has been fixed.
@robertmercer9117
@robertmercer9117 Жыл бұрын
Very surprised that you found highway driving to be noisy. My 2022 Calligraphy is silent around town and quiet on the interstate. I don't remember you showing the storage under the rear floor behind the 3rd row. On my 2020 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium, reliability has been a myth, so I'll take my chances with Hyundai.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
I don't think he drove the car, just looked at it. The early Palisade models had a wind noise problem around the outside mirror leaking into the cabin, but that has supposedly been fixed, so your 2022 should be quiet. Also, as you noted, reliability of Toyota has gone downhill, because they do things like specify 0W-16 or 0W-20 motor oil for better fuel economy, but destroys reliability.
@john12354
@john12354 Ай бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw imagine being this emotional over a Hyundai
@arnie2103
@arnie2103 Жыл бұрын
Good to see a car review channel that's not bribed by fancy vacations.
@BobsGT235
@BobsGT235 Жыл бұрын
The reason the rear window wiper is mounted at the bottom is because it's more efficient and does a better job on that spot.
@whcapital2042
@whcapital2042 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review from a technical perspective! It really shows what Hyundai focuses on and skimps on, which fits what the brand is all about(Fashion over function). Could you do reviews on European cars like Merc and BMW? I especially love the reviews on the engine and under car.
@plmn93
@plmn93 Жыл бұрын
People don't seem to understand that there is no such thing as a free lunch. When I see Kia and Hyundai vehicles offering more features than every other competitor at each price point, I know they must be cutting corners somewhere. They have become experts at cutting the corners nobody, particularly car reviewers, will notice. They allay those concerns with a great warranty, but it turns out getting them to honor warranty repairs is difficult.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@plmn93 What evidence do you have that Hyundai doesn't honor their 10 year - 100K mile warranty on the powertrain. Having been on some Hyundai owner forums, I would say that is not true, unless the owner did not do the required maintenance (which is basically oil changes).
@Mityob67
@Mityob67 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mark-rw3kwGenerous warranty on cheaply made vehicles is not good logic to me.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw 8 ай бұрын
@@Mityob67 I don't know how old you are, but Japanese cars and electronics were considered junk in the 1960's but they improved. In Korea, LG (Goldstar) and Samsung were once junk, along with Hyundai. They are no longer junk and scientific statistical customer surveys have proved that Hyundai has above average reliability. The guy who made this video is a former Toyota dealer mechanic (not an automotive engineer) and now owns his own shop specializing in Toyota and Lexus, and his comments are totally biased, and often absolutely ridiculous.
@bstephens600
@bstephens600 Жыл бұрын
Nice seeing some reviews on non-Toyota products. I think this Palisade gives the Highlander some real competition. Enjoyed this!
@jeff44446
@jeff44446 Жыл бұрын
Honestly speaking, the review is excellent and in details. However, in South Africa we have a diesel engine for this car and that is good. I do love to say, you mentioned a lot of things most journalists ignore. They rush to drive cars and they end up misleading people by their comments. You soldom see a journalist looking at under the body of a car. They always talk of what they don't know. But this review is so good that the engineering guys at Hyundai should be able to take notice. This video has helped me before i walk into a car dealer. Am happy to make an informed decision. And am going to share this review to other journalists that they drop their pride and do the right work. And not saying all journalists are selfish or incompetent. Am saying they lack this degree of doing a thoroughly good job. Thanks again my brother. Bless you.
@seiddascarlett86
@seiddascarlett86 5 ай бұрын
Thank you AMD for your professional reviews! I'm a fan!! I love seeing car reviews and THIS is the info I REALLY NEED!!! I'm doing research for my next car purchase. You are helping me out tremendously!
@aradam29781
@aradam29781 Жыл бұрын
I made a mistake of buying a brand new 2013 Hyundai Azera limited had the 3.3 V6 GDI I sold my 2003 lexus es300 had 177,000 trouble free miles for this, nothing but issues with the engine with carbon buildup and the vvt and cams and at 39k Hyundai installed new cam phasers and timing chains and tensioner after 20,000 miles of cold start up rattle got so bad it lasted almost 90 seconds, the dealer had tried every method engine flushes, brands of oil, weights of oil, new timing tensioner nothing fixed it. I got almost 6k more trouble free miles and noise was back new phasers and tensioner installed again and last maybe 900 miles and engine was not running right they kept car for 5 weeks and discovered the front cylinders were lower compression by more than 30 percent and one was less than 90psi they got hyundai corporate involved and inspected couple weeks later so they sent in a whole brand new engine was $12,700 was total bill but under warranty, less than 11,000 miles on new engine it started all over again with cold rattle and misfires sold car shortly later never again will i buy a kia or hyundai
@marcodarko6941
@marcodarko6941 Жыл бұрын
Oh a 2003 Lexus for that, that's a hard lesson to learn.
@robmalcolm8042
@robmalcolm8042 Жыл бұрын
An Azera? Wth I heard that was one of the most reliable models to come to the u.s!
@robmalcolm8042
@robmalcolm8042 Жыл бұрын
I will Lexus IS more well known to last tho
@TheHansoost
@TheHansoost Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these im depth reviews, especially regarding the drive train and overall expected reliability.
@lordravindra
@lordravindra Жыл бұрын
I like the way he puts it down bit by bit in a very instrumental manner down to the details just like how you make chicken masala. Please, we need this kind of quality yet gentle review. Keep it up man.
@ramez5881
@ramez5881 Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons why I bought a Palisade is because it has "old school engine" that's a good thing people...meaning it won't break down. This is the second Hyundai I bought new and when I sold my first car it had 161k with zero problems.
@aarg2609
@aarg2609 Жыл бұрын
161k eh. That's half life for a older Toyota. Can't say the same for a Hyundai. But maybe I'm just a hater 🤭
@darkivaz-aaa1145
@darkivaz-aaa1145 Жыл бұрын
You are a hater
@ramez5881
@ramez5881 Жыл бұрын
@aarg2609 I was waiting for a comment like this. FYI I still see my old car on the road running like a champ, because it was sold to my neighbor, and she has 194k with zero problems.
@aarg2609
@aarg2609 Жыл бұрын
If you are comfortable with 190k miles in a Hyundai then more power to you. 👍
@ramez5881
@ramez5881 Жыл бұрын
@aarg2609 your missing my point... THE CAR STILL RUNNING. I will try to update you in the near future when the car hits 300k lol I don't know what else to tell you.
@ianholmes2420
@ianholmes2420 Жыл бұрын
I want to compliment you on your extremely detailed care care, maintenance and reviews. I watch many car mechanics, and car reviewers. You are the best of them all. Please keep making videos and posting to KZfaq. I’ve subscribed to your channel, I “Like” your videos and I strongly encourage you to continue reviewing and posting videos about engines, transmissions and cars/trucks in general. You rock my friend!
@bobcook8576
@bobcook8576 Жыл бұрын
New sub, awsome content. The technical aspect of your reviews are awsome. At first I thought I found the official Toyota fan boy channel. The fact that you give unbiased reviews of other manufactures is a great thing. Hoovie ,Kilmer and Wizard are fine for laughs but you are the real deal. God bless you and your family.
@howardshaw3746
@howardshaw3746 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Palisade on order, have owned a 2021 Limited and 2022 Calligraphy prior to this Calligraphy which I will be picking up soon. The guy who did this review did not do these cars justice. My prior two cars were great in every respect. Not an issue with either car. Traded them in for what I paid for one, and a very slight loss on the other. My 2023, will probably turn it in as well before we leave for 4 months this fall and order another. The comfort, excellent. The performance, fuel mileage, superb for this price range. Not one complaint on any of them. There is also an excellent Hyundai Extended Warranty available at a cost. Price is up to the dealer, ranges from $1300 on up. Covers just about 100% of everything for ten years. I pulled a 24' enclosed car hauler with my 2022, no load bars or sway device about 400 miles last year. Trailer was empty, drove at 55 on the 4 lane, no problems. But, would not want to haul it loaded with one of my cars in it. Check it out! It is much better than the review given here.
@dilawerkhan2173
@dilawerkhan2173 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone noted, he is a Toyota mechanic. Cannot be a non-biased review. I am sure there are shortcomings in all new vehicles and will believe his comments on Palisade mechanical shortcomings unless similar review is done for Toyota Highlander or Honda Pilot. Hyundai Palisade beats it’s competitors hands down in many aspects starting with looks, features, value for money, space inside, driving pleasure, etc. all independent reviews so far I have seen put the Hyundai Palisade on top in most aspects and yes it may lack in a few aspects compared to other brands in its class
@AndyFarrell008
@AndyFarrell008 3 ай бұрын
This is the same guy that has candidly shared which Lexus and Toyota models to avoid, and exactly why. He's actually pretty objective IMHO. For example, he has leveled similar direct injection concerns at the Lexus IS250.
@fcg243
@fcg243 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 Kia Telluride nightfall, wife has a 2020 Telluride EX model and the best thing about it is how quiet and refined the ride is. Probably the Palisade is louder on the road but I’ve not experienced that in the Telluride. As far as the engine being noisy at start up I have not experienced that plus I’ve seen Tellurides with almost 200k miles on them doing just fine and no engine/transmission issues to date. I do however agree with most of your review except those two things. Again, I have the Kia version and Kia puts more sound deadening and extra features like folding mirrors etc… Toyotas may be more reliable down the road but the new turbo engines Toyota is now introducing in the Highlander and Tundra are causing some issues. Still if I were to consider Toyota in the future I would get a plug in hybrid, never a turbo engine.
@gary.s7759
@gary.s7759 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The Telluride was designed for the American market while the Palisade was designed for the Korean market. The Telluride will be fine for the first 100k by that time, most people will trade it in or upgrade to another vehicle.
@lorav9893
@lorav9893 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I have a 2021 palisade and I absolutely love it. It runs smoothly and nobody can beat the warranty .
@checopelon2564
@checopelon2564 Жыл бұрын
I think Kia can beat the warranty
@checopelon2564
@checopelon2564 Жыл бұрын
@@MIDLIFECRISIS11 Not true they offer different type of warranty’s
@pierrebeausoleil5885
@pierrebeausoleil5885 Жыл бұрын
I REMEMBER ONE GUY WHO SAID ,THEY WARRANTY 10 YEARS IT MUST BE GOOD ? NOT SO 10 YEARS WARRANTY IS BECASE IT NEED IT.FROM CANADA HERE ITS 5 YEARS WARRANTY AND THE PRIZE IT'S MUCH HIGHER .THEY ALWAY HAD PROBLEM WITH THEIR MOTOR ASKED CONSUMER REPORT.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@checopelon2564 They can match it, but not beat it.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@pierrebeausoleil5885 Some of the old Hyundai's had problems, but new ones are much more reliable. Given the fact that you use all caps, you must be a really old guy.
@jp1087
@jp1087 9 ай бұрын
Hyundai has been using that 3.8v6 platform in various models since 2006. It's a solid and smooth engine. Though for a flagship SUV encroaching onto the luxury side, they should have a power output equal to the Genesis drivetrains, though it is higher than the Highlander and Pilot, but the GM platforms have it beat. The fuel economy is decent, but increasing the power output would make it more efficient than the Highlander or Pilot. The Palisade only has an 18-gal fuel tank, for a total range of only 460 miles, that's tiny. The GMC Acadia has a larger fuel tank at 22 gal, more power at 310hp and better fuel economy. While the Palisade might be slightly larger by a few cubic ft, on family road trips when you want a kid or two in the third row, you're going to still need a roof-rack or hitch carrier, because the cargo space behind the third row isn't as large as a full-sized SUV. If you take into account real world use, the GMC Acadia is better on paper, but the Hyundai warranty would be enough for me to sacrifice some power and economy. Plus, at my local Hyundai dealer, you can purchase a lifetime powertrain and lifetime bumper-bumper warranty, which is what I did for my wife's 2020 Santa Fe.
@hugostiglitz47
@hugostiglitz47 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a car designed by experienced mechanics working together with engineers
@internalharm
@internalharm Жыл бұрын
They did, fabric engineer. Its a hyundia after all. Kill in Action (KIA) and this brand is all looks no go LOL. What we need is a interior of a Mercedes and and reliability of Toyota and add tech of Tesla.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
He is a Toyota mechanic. None of his comments had any serious validity, except maybe about carbon buildup in all GDI engines. For example, BMW, MB, and Audi use the same kind of plastic filter housing as Hyundai, which are far superior to the poorly machined metal ones used by Toyota.
@manofsesame3024
@manofsesame3024 6 ай бұрын
@@internalharm the criterias you mentioned are the 3 points of a triangle. A manufacturer can only stay on a line between 2 of the points. You take 2 you sacrifice the third.
@apirmoh2202
@apirmoh2202 Жыл бұрын
Incredible attention to detail - especially from a mechanical (engine / underside) perspective. Please keep it up - most reviews totally skip that! Please consider reviewing other SUVs (Honda Pilot, BMW X5, Subaru Forester, etc). Keep up the great work! 👍🏽
@shiningyrlife
@shiningyrlife Жыл бұрын
I think most reviewers don't even have the technical knowledge to expand like this guy. A treasure trove of a channel.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
This guy is a Toyota mechanic, so if it isn't a Toyota he doesn't like it. Most of the claims about being unreliable have not basis is fact and are pure conjecture. For example, BMW, MB, and Audi use plastic oil filter caps like Hyundai. His knowledge outside of the way Toyota does things is very limited and biased.
@manofsesame3024
@manofsesame3024 6 ай бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw he talked many bad points about Toyotas as well.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw 6 ай бұрын
@@manofsesame3024 The bottom line is that he is wrong about the welds on exhaust system and he is wrong about the plastic (actually polycarbonate) oil filter cap. He is just a mechanic and not an automotive engineer. He worked for a Toyota dealer for many years and now has his own shop specializing in Toyota and Lexus, so his knowledge of other brands is minimal.
@blazeandcyrus
@blazeandcyrus 3 ай бұрын
I won't buy a kia or hyundai but this guy teaches me things. I really appreciate that, I learn so much about many car makers. No bias either, he is just giving us the good, bad and the ugly of all brands.
@AO-bz6zc
@AO-bz6zc Жыл бұрын
I have this exact car in white. Drives very nice. I put it on Turo and am planning on retiring it at 90k miles. Transmission still shifts nice at 22k, but has a whine already. Engine in the morning sounds scary. Your review was spot on!
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
Thank You for your input, Palisade owner ; I would love having an SUV with this appearance that is reliable enough to be worth maintaining for decades (since that is what I personally do with my vehicles rather than retiring them) but alas, much like their Sonata that I passed up on, I can't seem to justify how this can be a long term vehicle for myself or anyone for that matter. To hammer the point home, I never see any of those 4th generation Hyundais still functioning on the road today either. Darn it, Hyundai; Why do you have to make your cars so beautiful, yet so temporary as tin foil?? Lol
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@bentonrp There is no statistical evidence to back up the claim that Hyundai's are less reliable than Toyota or Honda. I am talking about recent models, not those from 30-30 years ago.
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw How can you possibly gain statistical evidence... from something that will happen tomorrow...?
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
@@bentonrp We can look at the statistical reliability of the Palisade powertrain since it was introduced in 2019 model year, which uses the same exact powertrain (Lambda V6 3.8 GDI and 8-speed transmission) as other Hyundai models since 2012. He is a Toyota mechanic who is very biased. For example, BMW, MB, and Audi use the exact same kind of plastic filter housing as Hyundai, which are far superior to the poorly machined metal ones used by Toyota (many complaints about stripped threads on the Toyota ones on various Toyota owner forums).
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-rw3kw You have some good points; An oil filter housing that needed to be replaced after about a decade because it was plastic is a meager point to complain about. However, "an oil filter housing that shows no intention of reliability built into the design of the auto, because it is plastic" is actually a good point. I don't doubt you when you say Mercedes and Beamers did it. Why are they top of the line then? Probably because of the engine build. These top of the line brands are indeed still susceptible to parts that need to be replaced soon that don't affect performance of the engine, but I don't know what components in Hyundais are built to last. Their engines certainly aren't to the level of Mercedes, Toyota, Honda, or BMWs. On an old Toyota, near everything was built to last. If this guy is biased towards his company of Toyota, he might have good reason to be. I wonder what he thinks of the newer Toyotas that screw up their whole 'dependability reputation' by introducing unproven technology in it like Fuel Flex or their Hybrids. Nowadays, modern Toyotas are cars from just another car company like any other; With planned obsolescence and all.
@markf8256
@markf8256 Жыл бұрын
Many Toyota 4 cylinder engines also have a plastic cartridge oil filter housing. Even when properly torqued, they have a tendency to break at the next oil change. I keep spares for my kids’ 2013 Corollas.
@Lion_King_143
@Lion_King_143 Жыл бұрын
TRUE.
@JakeTerch
@JakeTerch Жыл бұрын
I know the pain from my wife’s Corolla! I believe the torque spec is stated as 20 in-lbs on the housing, but it seems that people tighten to 20 ft-lbs, causing it to be almost impossible to remove without breaking it!
@popaki9484
@popaki9484 Жыл бұрын
So is the palisade’s engine reliable long term? I wonder how it compares to a 2018 Avalon engine
@manofsesame3024
@manofsesame3024 6 ай бұрын
@@popaki9484Hyundai engines can last as far as Toyota engines. But the other parts of the car may not.
@jimiburns6891
@jimiburns6891 Жыл бұрын
Agree about the downsides of direct fuel injection, but honestly, most of this comments he sounded so “concerning” about with the engine (mechanical lifters, etc) , are found on the original honda 3.5 v6’s , which were one of the most reliable motors in existence, much more reliable than newer ones.
@chickerd4928
@chickerd4928 7 ай бұрын
You mentioned the fact that it doesn’t have power folding side mirrors on this calligraphy trim and you’re right. The thing that boggles my mind is the fact that it doesn’t have power tilt and telescopic steering wheel. Other Hyundai cars have that feature. This is the flagship and highest trim level and it doesn’t? Come on Hyundai.
@Tyopozzx
@Tyopozzx 10 ай бұрын
One of the most thorough and honest reviews I have ever seen! The Mechanic needs to do more reviews because he is great and very knowledgeable.
@davidkim2132
@davidkim2132 Жыл бұрын
OMG I was looking for reviews like this!! Mechanic's perspective!! Show us what's under the car, what materials they used, and how durable they are. Thank you for doing this review. I would love to see other SUVs and more!!
@Arcticfox7
@Arcticfox7 Жыл бұрын
Omg
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
He is a Toyota mechanic. I don't know if he has his own shop now, but he used to work for a Toyota dealer. Not objective.
@kennethwalton5582
@kennethwalton5582 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 Palisade Limited, in the same Moonlight Blue color and I like it a great deal. It’s very comfortable and I’ve had ZERO problems from it.
@reviewguy559
@reviewguy559 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, It's bias to review a Hyundai powertrain while you promote Toyota and Lexus (Competition?). Longevity is the question but it will remain a question until it comes. What do you think is the "preferred" powertrain for the Palisade anyways? Where are the evidence for the new generation Hyundai powertrain that went bad? What is the fix on those cold morning warm up that sounded so loud?
@Rado7092
@Rado7092 Жыл бұрын
Nice review Mate 👍🏻 very honest and Frank in so many ways. Well done. We also love our Palisade, but Australian top spec (similar to US caligraphy) has slightly different options such as we get the auto folding door mirrors and I noticed some features the Aussie model doesn’t have eg 3rd Row heated seats or the power third row. Our AWD are all Diesel and all FWD V6. In my research it’s the best bang for buck model on the (Aussie) market, but we don’t have as many options here, eg Telluride isn’t offered as well as few other notable larger vehicles. Also interested if your “Old tech” comment is relatable to new diesel as it seems to be your biggest Con and most sold here in australia would be sold as the diesel.
@nhuff73
@nhuff73 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I will not be looking at ANY Hyundai or Kia after this review. My Toyota and Lexus have always been amazing. Scotty Kilmer knows best.
@donc6781
@donc6781 Жыл бұрын
Start move. I’d rather have a 15 year old Lexus, rather than a brand new Hyundai
@robmalcolm8042
@robmalcolm8042 Жыл бұрын
It’s shame cause they were good from like 01 to 10 at least it wasn’t that much issues for those years regular multi port injection. It seems tho even the Kona with mpi injection still has issues tho. But it seems once they went gdi in 2011 is when they had issues. Even Honda gdi has issues but I heard it was mostly from the extra pressure from the turbo model.
@donc6781
@donc6781 Жыл бұрын
@@robmalcolm8042 You’re right, the last good year was 2010. I don’t understand people going and buying new Hyundai and Kia’s - seems no one does any research
@robmalcolm8042
@robmalcolm8042 Жыл бұрын
@@donc6781 I got a palisade with over 14,000 miles but that is still low. May trade for a 4 runner tho depending. It hasn’t gave no issues and I do deep down feel this is the only or of the few models that are reliable but time will tell from people on forums with higher miles most complaints seem minor with not much anything with reliability or engine related. But yeah we’ll see I do have a Toyota Prius that has almost 250,000 miles as well. This guy fails to mention that the palisade has Otto and Atkinson cycle not just one so the engine actually does get two cycles to help clean the gdi. Of course this probably isn’t a obvious thing unless your really familiar with this model but I thought he would of known without assuming it’s just gdi only.
@brianw.4585
@brianw.4585 12 күн бұрын
I have a 2022 palisade calligraphy with about 47k miles. I don't notice much road noise on or off the highway. My previous car was a Volvo s60, which I enjoyed driving, but was too small for my daily needs. I really enjoy the palisade as a daily driver. I'm not really worried about the engine, or transmission because I will buy something newer long before the warranty is up.
@user-wc6fz5id1p
@user-wc6fz5id1p 9 ай бұрын
Classic "all show and no go" scenario. Thank you! Manual tappets? Yeh, the stuff most people don't see is very questionable.
@Phostings1
@Phostings1 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, i'm glad your channel exist. I always wondered how Hyundai and its sister company kept their cars so cheap. Now I'm reconsidering after seeing all of the plastics on this car. Could you do a mechanical review on the new Genesis G70? I want to make sure I don't make the wrong purchase. Thanks!
@sly9263
@sly9263 Жыл бұрын
thats how hyundai and kia have always been- they're dressing up their interiors (nicely I might add) and selling better but the "hidden" cost cutting is still there. your average buyer doesn't care about what they can't see or don't understand. paint quality and thickness is also an ongoing issue for new hyundais.
@tacocin
@tacocin Жыл бұрын
Don't ... the Avalon or the upcoming Toyota Crown is a thousand times better quality. If you get the G70, do yourself a favor and lease it.
@billytakoho5046
@billytakoho5046 Жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor, stay away from Korean cars. They give you lots of bells and whistles but are they reliable? No. Engine problems, electrical problems even they are fairly new...
@elusivellama
@elusivellama Жыл бұрын
I considered the G70 (and the sister car, Stinger GT), both AWD. I passed on them both, for a couple of reasons: 1) Bucket style lifters. I'm sorry, I cannot pay that kind of money and not even get hydraulic lifters. I'm not sure how much it'll cost to shim them later, but I'm guessing it isn't cheap. 2) This was the deal breaker - the transfer case fluid cannot be serviced. When the fluid wears out and the car throws an error code, the official service manual says to REPLACE the whole transfer case! At that time, the transfer case was $10k USD, not included is the labor, and not having a loaner as this isn't a warranty issue. Owners still haven't found a satisfactory solution to this. In light of the above, and after seeing Ahmed's review of the Palisade, I'm really wondering what else Hyundai Motor Group cost cut out of the G70 / Stinger GT. I ended up with an IS350. It's one second slower in 0 - 60 than the Stinger GT. I don't care, I'm willing to give up 1s in 0 - 60 and get that Japanese Lexus build quality and reliability, and it is as easy to service as a Camry. It isn't exactly a slow car either, once you figure out how to keep in the lowest gear possible when taking off.
@charley95sheridan44
@charley95sheridan44 Жыл бұрын
@@billytakoho5046 If only more people knew this. I always envy the higher feature cars but I'll stick with my 2 Lexus's with less bells and whistles.
@flex5966
@flex5966 Жыл бұрын
I considered buying The Palisade or its sibling since their introduction, but every review so far Praises these Hyundai / Kia twins for their Style, good looks, interior, and interior room. The interior outclasses the Toyota Highlander for 3rd roll seating, USB ports, Leather, etc. Everybody I speak to who owns one of these loves them. Pricing for them is ridiculous because Hyundai dealers are marking them up 10k over sticker price in some cases. CCN, your in-depth review of the Palisades drivetrain and suspension, the pluses and minus is really important information to grasp. The maintenance cost to continue keeping this vehicle on the road over time because of old school valve lash adjustment ( as many Honda owners know plus the timing belt thing ) and plastics that abound the engine, no port injection, and Hyundai/Kia warranty issues with their engine line up have given me pause. Outside of buying to own, I think leasing if available would be the better option.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
The v6 is GDI only but it runs an Atkinson cycle to help with valve cleaning. The Atkinson cycle is supposed to help relieve the valve fouling.
@elusivellama
@elusivellama Жыл бұрын
Basically, it s Hyundai / Kia, it's already going to be much less reliable than a Toyota. I don't know about other people, but I'm willing to give up fluff features in exchange for reliability.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@elusivellama even you have to admit Toyotas reliability isn’t what it used to be. Take the highlander. They’re putting a turbo 4 instead of the v6. Plus the rav4 hybrid and prime have their hybrid cable corrosions. The bz4x that made in Japan btw has its wheels are falling off. Plus the batteries in many 2020 Toyotas have died prematurely
@coloradoboo1071
@coloradoboo1071 Жыл бұрын
I agree…I replace his “interesting” with “crappy”!! 🤪 I didn’t even know there WAS a 2023 engine that uses 5W-30!!!
@elusivellama
@elusivellama Жыл бұрын
Yes, I will give you that. Replacing the 3.5L V6 with the 2.4T is a horrible decision. There's more torque down low, but it's a high strung 4 popper with a turbo that needs fresh, warm high quality oil or that turbo bearing is going to pop. On top of that, the 4 cylinder is rough, unrefined and it sounds awful. There will be issues with the 2.4T, we just won't see them until 4 or 5 years later. But overall, after Ahmed's analysis of the Palisade's mechanical bits (come on, who uses solid bucket lifters in 2023?!), my money is still overwhelming on Toyota / Lexus.
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