I want to make it ***VERY CLEAR*** that any time I say "pound of air" in this video, I'm referring to the mass flow rate of "X" pounds of air per minute. NOT "X" psi of boost. Also, I messed up a bit on the time stamps, here are accurate links: 1:50 How to Read a Compressor Map 16:18 How to Install a Turbo Speed Gauge 20:26 How to Hook Sensors up to Megasquirt 22:45 Test Pulls 24:03 Analyzing Surge 29:50 Making More Boost 31:36 Analyzing Choke 34:21 Trying to Overspin The Turbo (Myth?)
@michaelbull69064 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video forever, awesome video man
@matthewbican66004 жыл бұрын
I liked the comment about 18psi I am spending way too much time on that site and on your channel. I want to do something very similar to your car for track use. Keep up the great work.
@braydoncoate95834 жыл бұрын
PIN THE COMMENT GREG
@TheCarPassionChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@braydoncoate9583 weird, it came unpinned
@braydoncoate95834 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarPassionChannel understandable 👍
@DeffectiveMirrors4 жыл бұрын
The data you provide is underrated man. For the amount of effort you’ve put in it’s sad you don’t have as much recognition as the you tubers with all the flashy cars.
@Bad_handle4 жыл бұрын
+1
@ross.dot.e5693 жыл бұрын
100%
@Huwberts_Emporium4 жыл бұрын
420hp to the wheels in a Miata must feel like 700hp in a new car.
@TheCarPassionChannel4 жыл бұрын
It's about as fast as a 700hp Hellcat in terms of roll-on acceleration. But it feels like about 3000hp in a car made of tin foil and bubble gum
@jefftoonstra50874 жыл бұрын
TheCarPassionChannel will you ever get a chance to drag race one? The only ‘ stang to give you trouble now is the new 500 😎
@TheMaroth4 жыл бұрын
@@jefftoonstra5087 Not realy. If that boat with that much Power and so much traction barely beats the Miata on 0-60 (3.5 Seconds) 60-120 will be roughly 8 seconds due power to weight. 0-120 the miata easly wins.
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei4 жыл бұрын
and THIS my friends is why I've been subscribed for so long! sweet sweet technical content explained for dummies!
@PistonsAndPetrol4 жыл бұрын
I listened and bought an NA Miata. Thanks dad.
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei4 жыл бұрын
about time!
@ayynuk4 жыл бұрын
samee. Bought one last week
@FDB774 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what any of this means but I'm still interested lol.
@Mr6Sinner4 жыл бұрын
Turbo spinny ok go fast
@dougsfan99844 жыл бұрын
On same boat
@john-martin4 жыл бұрын
Up down turn around jump clap. Up down turn around jump clap
@themmiatadays1764 жыл бұрын
Did I just watch a tv show long TheCarPassionChannle video... yep and I enjoyed every second 🤙
@philjones57284 жыл бұрын
Greg, this is without doubt THE BEST turbo compressor map video. A perfect real-world explanation (with actual data - no bluffing or fudging figures). It was even better than Brett's video, from GFB, on the MCM channel. Simply brilliant. Thank you. (Huh.....how can anyone give this video a thumbs down? Shame on you!)
@PANTYEATR14 жыл бұрын
finally, an understandable explanation on how to read a surge map. thanks so much bro.💪
@jannevot85154 жыл бұрын
13:49 I smashed the like button so hard I broke my screen. Thanks for the content Greg.
@usafsmoky10803 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible service. Sitting with a turbo’d NA that I built along side your videos, you’ve got the motherload of content that I bet other cars platforms wish they had.
@mikespencer99134 жыл бұрын
Making the complex understandable! Bravo, Greg!
@4399daniel4 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally sat in engineer lectures and I’ve never had such a quality of knowledge and data provided. Outstanding! 👏👏👏
@edwardbusbin98474 жыл бұрын
Loved the longer technical side of it, keep it up man!
@khawajadotd4 жыл бұрын
I just learned SO MUCH. Would love to keep seeing in depth technical stuff
@madmiata18873 жыл бұрын
Came back to watch again after a few months. Great job simplifying the fancy engineering stuff. My brain has a hard time comprehending engineering technical documents. You made it easy. Thanks man!
@rokudrifter3 жыл бұрын
you just answered something that I think about everytime I consider turbo. driving two hours to get it tuned without the turbo plumbed.
@xm52964 жыл бұрын
I thought this was TheCarPassionChannel? or is it TheCarPassionChannelxEngineeringExplained? Down with either!!
@Nasonix24 жыл бұрын
It's the car engineering passion channel explained. Duh
@al123j4 жыл бұрын
Epic video, love the more detailed format.... You are going to end up getting less power to weight ratio if you keep adding sensors 😂
@Hartbreak13 жыл бұрын
Now I finally understand compressor maps, every time I went into a forum trying to grasp the concept I was welcomed with comments with more mathematical and technical jargon than a Apollo mission to the moon. Now I need to understand the exhaust side of the turbo 😂
@blackinblue114 жыл бұрын
13min of technical content.....and I promise you..we are gonna install..the flux-capacitor on a miata..and see...... Killer! :) This was insane, good explaining skills and the passion
@SuperDizzy134 жыл бұрын
I could watch these videos all day lol. Very informative and also fun. Hands down my fave KZfaqr 👌
@FDB774 жыл бұрын
Man I've been binge watching pretty much all your videos lately and I'm so happy to see a new upload! Keep up the great work Greg!
@pisgahwrestler1193 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. We have a running joke at my job "pumps don't make pressure" because people don't understand flow vs pressure. Thank you for an awesome video!
@234Nick4 жыл бұрын
Craig and Craig is the most under-rated auto team on youtubes.
@reecelee10884 жыл бұрын
I watch KZfaq all day everyday and this man is my favorite. I loose it when I see Miata dad with a new video!
@FiveFiveGarage4 жыл бұрын
Vids like this make me excited to put my car back together. Its like a rolling science experiment! I want to put sensors on everything! This info would have been cool to see back when you swapped compressor wheels on the old build. Time to start shopping for an EFR 6258 😂
@MrCrash121904 жыл бұрын
We ❤️ you Cragita!
@ThisMarv4 жыл бұрын
Been watching for years and can't believe you still only have 105k subs and I've been trying to find a patreon or something to support you (other than the shop). Insane information, both in video and on your website. I didn't have a Miata for 2-3 years for personal reasons and I don't think I would've bought one again just now without your channel. 5/7 would pump money into Craig/Kreg/Grag/or any other variation if you had a patreon
@fernandohood55422 жыл бұрын
Yes you can with out watching the ending of the video. Excellent turbo selection.
@pontiacg4454 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg! Also, pretty sure you can wire the frequency output of the BW sensor up to pt4 on a MS3x, it has an option to use hardware timers on the main processor, so it should manage to read 160K from a 6258 no problem. 0-5V only. Little to no documentation on it though, about to try it myself. Or, you can also wire it to MAF input on maybe any MS3 and config it as a frequency MAF and do some math on the datalogs after the fact. No need to actually run MAF, you can just log it's frequency.
@slandon19774 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@pontiacg4454 жыл бұрын
I wired up the EFR speed sensor direct to PT4, configured for high speed input 1.75 teeth/rev on my MS3x. Seems to work fine. It quits reading around 2K RPM and I haven't maxed it out at 140K+ RPM yet either, around 1/10s update rate could be better but still plenty workable. I log a MAF while running SD and it's still working fine too. Going to make a frequency generator and send a fixed signal just to make sure I'm getting correct data and see where it caps out.
@802Garage2 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Covered a lot of ground here in an easy to digest way. Really demonstrated how beastly the EFR is too. Love the Southern Hooning shirt. That's a throwback. As for the over spin, I think it's that whole shop vac concept. It actually spins faster when there is a restriction. I forget the exact physics law, something something stall. You get dangerous overspeed when the car is under heavy load and a boost pipe suddenly blows though, I believe.
@blago63 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best explaining and favorite car stuff channel i am watcing your videos since the "garden hose" times and man does you upload quality stuff keep it up Greg i wish some day i meet you.
@daleabono36163 жыл бұрын
You spun my brain right up to the choke line. Luv'n it. Thank you.
@nice1149ss4 жыл бұрын
That was a great online lesson for my upcoming test for API source inspector for rotating equipment
@miatasman95944 жыл бұрын
Currently searching turbo sizes to replace a 2554r on a 1.6, Cram all the knowledge in my skull miata dad Love this video hopefully more technical videos to come
@JAWGolfinguitarist4 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I don't think it's "overly technical" at all. You do a really good job of explaining concepts and then exhibiting data to show what you mean without getting lost in the weeds. Your videos are more useful than my engineering degree when it comes to a lot of this stuff. Super interested in an rpm-variable boost video.
@kingbryant56734 жыл бұрын
Man I love that intro with a passion. Also was that a compound set up for a 2v Cummins
@cdsprech4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss a video where you changed shifters? Love the content here Greg, you present so much technical info in such an easy to digest way. Keep it up!
@Nasonix24 жыл бұрын
It's a bmw shifter if I'm not mistaken. He did a video about it maybe early or middle of last year is my guess
@vsilvanivs4 жыл бұрын
Man.. your content is way better than tons of other youtubers's! Keep on! Your car and project is a total "boost" for myself!
@dutchdreammiatabuild88084 жыл бұрын
Awesome video on the more technical side of things. Eventhough I'm an N/A guy for now, I really loved it man!
@JDARJISJ4 жыл бұрын
You are a great educator. This format is great for you.
@jayvee8948 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great video explanation. It’s making me want to enjoy my fluid mechanics & thermodynamics class more than I want to.
@fireonmytarget89372 жыл бұрын
I watched this a few months back and had a hard time w all the terms. I have been reading maximum boost by corky bell and now this video is way more fun to watch.
@adriantaylor9535Ай бұрын
Excellent presentation, easy to understand and useful data. 👍👍👍
@codllc4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that this would have been a great time to do a collaboration with Engineering Explained.
@TheOnlyToblin4 жыл бұрын
Peak nerdiness. Good shit. Thanks for this Crai....Greg! I definitely enjoy these technical videos! Even though I'm supercharging my car for low-end oomph rather than high end zoom-zoom (even sporting that Broke&Boosted sticker) this is hella interesting and useful!
@trunksbriefs84344 жыл бұрын
Name a better duo than Greg and Craig, wou guys rock 😍
@taion98364 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff, thanks! I much prefer learning through your technical video than angry forum posts!
@victorivansson32474 жыл бұрын
Long Technical video approved, definitly want more!!!
@realweston4 жыл бұрын
yes i absolutely loved the shared knowledge, although its not something i want to watch while im laying in bed trying to sleep. because now my mind is racing with the possibilities! man i cant want for my turbo so i can also " keep on boosting"
@1987RX7TII4 жыл бұрын
I’m subscribed to tons of car channels and none of them make me half as excited as I get when I see activity from this channel.
@lordflufffluff4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much. I want to modify an ND Miata now.
@ReubenHorner4 жыл бұрын
Nice one brother. Interesting topics, I don't know much about it haha. I do have a mate who overspun his Borg and it blew up haha. He went up a couple of sizes and now runs a speed sensor for safety. He was simply making more power than the turbo was rated to
@shinobi12034 жыл бұрын
Talk about a knowledge bomb!! Thanks for your research miata dad!!
@facamary4 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming Mr. Peters! Amazing videos...
@isaacfarmer71384 жыл бұрын
My man Greg out here like engineering explained. Love the amount of knowledge this guy just has sitting in his mind
@MarcelTM4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! Love the "every day astronaut " Tshirt...
@yp3604 жыл бұрын
I want more technical and long videos like this. Very informative and very entertaining. Thank you so much
@indopleaser3 жыл бұрын
like this type of video. something new, and technical with measurements. get that thing in the wind tunnel and go full time attack
@harrisdoesthings4 жыл бұрын
I don't have an MX5 anymore, but I still watch Craig's videossss xoxoxooxx
@niccolomendoza73824 жыл бұрын
Very thorough, well explained! Thank you Greg!
@arturo7624 жыл бұрын
Our boy dropping knowledge on them foos
@slayerxi4 жыл бұрын
The 18psi comment was a gem! Great work Craig, keep it up my dude!
@joshuaphelps3224 жыл бұрын
This video is a gold mine
@beagle0554 жыл бұрын
Man alive. You have become a scientist! Nice work!!!!! I’ll have to watch this a few more times to digest it. Awesome content!
@danconzett47344 жыл бұрын
This is really good stuff! As an engineer I really enjoy these in depth technical videos. I hope to see more in the future! Keep it up!
@seanday612722 күн бұрын
Good video. I like the deep dive videos and you did well.
@lepystudio89744 жыл бұрын
Your data is somehow "scientific" and i would approve it as a scientific experiment regarding to airflow. Very educative video too, enjoyed! Keep up!
@austingrimm29964 жыл бұрын
Loved, loved, loved this video. The way you break concepts down into edible chunks and deliver fantastic entertainment is why you're the best dad on youtube 😁
@TheSkattin4 жыл бұрын
Dude this video is seriously so amazing
@decamun3 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite video I've seen of yours. Love the technical depth. I learned a lot :)
@thomasd52484 жыл бұрын
so about that 30psi in the mid range.. also, have you thought about doing a 1/2 mile or standing mile event?
@jrgoldbach4 жыл бұрын
I really like the presentation of this video as compared to many of your previous videos. Keep up the great work!
@StreetracerJunkies4 жыл бұрын
Today I learned more than by going to University :D thanks man keep it going
@MihaiZavoian7 ай бұрын
finally putting this info to use for my drift miata!
@SonnyRao4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Been researching turbos and compressor maps, and I was a bit confused about the hp to flow thing and your videos really explained all of it so well. I think I'll also buy a speed sensor for science :-)
@GTFour2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I’ve over spun a Turbo already running near its limit that then had a slight charge pipe boost leak. It’s to do with the engine load like you saw with the street vs dyno logging. Something else for you to test/prove!
@karlkiernan68632 жыл бұрын
This video was very helpful as I have not found much info on the BW turbo RPM gauge. Thanks.
@fl_interception Жыл бұрын
You have to simulat the overspeen the turbo with a small leak! Because you need the strength off the engine to speen the turbo, but the leak for the turbo to spool up and over spean
@vasek9874 жыл бұрын
overspinning topic: If you don't use compressor like you did, there is less airflow compared to when the engine is charged so overspinning can't happen. It could happen in case you completely removed compressor rotor - there won't be any appiance which would use power generated by the turbine. But this is not the case. You are still spinning compressor wheel which is powered by the turbine and you are compressing air and blowing it back to the atmosphere. And yeah setup you tested for overspin did propably about 120-130hp because of that added extra „restriction in exhaust“ ;)
@MrJasons94 жыл бұрын
Love these longer more technical videos, Keep up the great work man !
@shawnroxby32572 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting and informative! Bravo
@cre8tivegarage1574 жыл бұрын
have to say this helped me understand a lot more thanks
@badfish2184Ай бұрын
great job bro , keep it going
@mrmohr23 жыл бұрын
@TheCarPassionChannel I suspect that with the turbo disconnected (Running NA) not nearly as much air flow is passing in, and therefore Out of the head and into the turbine side of the turbo. So, there just isn't enough air to spin it up to 168k rpm. Super big thanks for all the research you have done, and more importantly, summarizing it so that we who are not quite as bright, can understand. I have looked at turbo pressure maps before, but had no idea what they meant. Now, to get more than 210hp from my garrett SR20DET...
@PainfuIIcookie4 жыл бұрын
In terms of using the dyno readout and boost log for the Compressor map, you mention a calculation to figure out Flywheel bhp. Maybe one way to make the compressor map more accurate would be to use a Dyno that measures transmission losses, as yours must be extremely unique! 😁 Awesome video as usual though bro ✌
@Dystyrbed4 жыл бұрын
Dig the technical details, man. Still need to get you a video of my crappy flatland riding. :-)
@chippyjohn13 жыл бұрын
Compound is large turbo feeding small turbo on compressor side. With regards to overspeed, factory cars are usually smaller turbos and made of cast aluminin meaning they can reach max rpm easier in NA and the cast aluminium has a lower tensile strength. Your wheel is billet an has a higher tensile strength, though aluminium still suffers from fatigue. Running a wheel at its limit may not shatter straight away, but eventually it will, everytime you hit redline line you have put tremendous force on the wheel. If you calculate the centrifugal force of only 5grams of aluminium at a radius of 31mm at 180,000rpm that little piece of 5gram aluminium is experiencing 5500KG of force try to pull it outwards. You should displace the compressor wheel in water and calculate its volume and mass of each fin, as well as the back and entire wheel to calculate how much force it is going through. Thats 5500kg for 5 grams. That is why they make the housings so thick in case a wheel breaks.
@mattbriers55864 жыл бұрын
Your videos are such good quality
@XCSEDAN4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid dude... really well done. Now... lets see how efficient your intercooler and intake system is... Add a map pre intercooler then post intercooler but pre throttlebody. It'll isolate where your limiting factors are. Fantastic chanel man, good on you for schooling people. Also high boost in the mid-rang then tampering it off.. guess how modern high performance turbo cars work? (Ie GTI, S3, 1205i etc) Boom. You got it baby! Make the turbo work in its most efficient range constantly. Makes for an efficient engine.
@livin4dasnow4 жыл бұрын
I love this series!!! Greg you're the best at making things easily accessible and giving a good foundation to learn from. Love your channel, helped me start learning how to boost my Miata!
@dougsfan99844 жыл бұрын
Speechless
@TomIsTerrible4 жыл бұрын
Now this is quality content 👌
@ReinierKorth4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very informative. Learned a lot. Thanks.
@mikegarbrandt4 жыл бұрын
Dr Greg Peters awesome video! Thank you sir!
@TankRust4 жыл бұрын
Great video Greg! As a fellow Miata nerd, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Thanks for putting out such great content!
@dgugge74 жыл бұрын
This is easily one of the best videos out there describing compressor surge and compressor maps in general using all the measuring equipment you would want to know the "whole" story. Big props for that! I'm driving the same engine with the same turbo and your setup is making the same sounds as mine when at full throttle and around 4500rpm (23:10 and 23:25). Its a short whistling sound in the video which can be longer if in a higher gear. I always was worried this is surging. But obviously it is not. Thanks for showing that! Do you have an idea where that whistling sound is coming from?
@IL_tech_4 жыл бұрын
That´s invaluable data, thank you very much
@vkotis4 жыл бұрын
Great editing, tons of info...you should have so many more subscribers. I’ve been subbed for a while now and your vids have helped me throughout the years. I always look forward to a new video.