Kess, Dissident Mage | EDH Budget Deck Tech $50 | Combo | Magic the Gathering

Kess, Dissident Mage | EDH Budget Deck Tech $50 | Combo | Magic the Gathering | Commander

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Command your budget! The Commander’s Quarters is your source for everything budget Commander! On this deck tech we brew with Kess, Dissident Mage as our commander. Use Kess to recast powerful spells and combo off in a multitude of ways!
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@addambarcelos 4 жыл бұрын

didn't know her price got that low. that reprint made a good job

@txag007 4 жыл бұрын

What great timing! I picked up Kess recently to brew a deck!! I think she would be an excellent choice for the $200 budget series! ;)

@shallow2479 Жыл бұрын

200 aint a budget lmao most people by far consider 100 max as a budget

@brettsutherland8390 4 жыл бұрын

Naru Meha + ghostly flicker + sunscorched desert as well, great video

@snprshot2315 4 жыл бұрын

I was literally brewing a kess deck this morning, I have a karador and wanted to get spells from the grave to XD thann you for the timing

@EmeraldSphreez 4 жыл бұрын

Mitch, your timing is impeccable! Just yesterday, my friend that I recently got back into magic through commander decided he wanted to build a deck that was vastly different than the only well built deck he has (angel tribal led by Karametra). We went over some archetypes and he decided he wanted to try a spellslinger/combo deck, and because of her art and really cool effect, he decided on Kess. I can't wait to show him this!

@vincentperon2950 4 жыл бұрын

this deck looks fun and interesting, for the price point, it's awesome. Good job on working this out.

@hunterhiestand 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your consistent, high-quality content Mitch! I tend to shy away from infinite combos that are repetitive or unfun, but this deck avoids those pitfalls! Setting aside some of my paycheck now.

@searchfire3350 4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Mitch, your videos are amazing and they’ve helped become a much better magic deck builder and player. Thank you so much!

@sarahtekh 4 жыл бұрын

Mitch please. I NEED that Volrath decklist! PLEASE! oh yea, good decklist!

@altietiam1957 4 жыл бұрын

Oh my God yes. I just picked up a Kess but wasn't sure how to build her. Thank you

@Phelps285 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome deck! It looks pretty consistent! However, I'd also look at Demonic Consultation and Laboratory Maniac. Cast Consultation for Lab Man which gets Lab Man to hand. Cast Lab Man and then recast Consultation with Kess's ability but this time, name something that isn't in the deck. This will exile your whole deck. Cast a draw spell now to win.

@fixituplefty3730 4 жыл бұрын

Aiden Phelps that’s the cedh deck it is fun

@Phelps285 4 жыл бұрын

@@fixituplefty3730 I know. That's why I suggested it.

@krisdaschwab912 4 жыл бұрын

@@fixituplefty3730 there is literally nothing fun about Labman combos.

@FlynnApollo 4 жыл бұрын

@@krisdaschwab912 "Winning isnt fun"

@andrewsparkes8829 4 жыл бұрын

And then curse as Lab Man is in the top few cards, every time ;-)

@thehonker8846 4 жыл бұрын

This looks like an awesome deck along with the general tazri one

@alanparana6899 3 жыл бұрын

It really is. I’ve tuned this deck and it’s pretty unstoppable I feel bad playing it

@Sh-kl8gy 3 жыл бұрын

@@alanparana6899 would it be possible for you to send it here? I’m really interested to hear if it doesn’t trouble you.

@michaelatkinson88 4 жыл бұрын

Kess is fun in a variety of builds, mine is semi-budget and all steal and sac stuff

@alastar414 4 жыл бұрын

I will most definitely add the infanate Mana combo with ghostly flicker into my kess deck amazing work around with this commander it's nice to see something different ur perspective brought me some light to my build with her ❤️ commander quarters

@KoiBoiRoi 4 жыл бұрын

Took her out of my Arcane Wizardry deck and I've been looking for a solid budget deck for her. Thanks!

@masongrae5010 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this guide and ended up using the decklist as a guide for about half the cards i use in what ive come to call Spellslinger (i went least amount of creatures most amount of beneficial instants as possible)

@ryebread1787 3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend using fewer combos and adding more counter spells and board clears. This deck is also missing some mana ramp that makes it hard surviving the early game. The deck falls a little short on card fetch, but its okay considering the low price. All in all a decent beginner deck I would say.

@PawzBrownMTG 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool deck tech love these break downs

@ryanlinkous3812 4 жыл бұрын

currently building a Kess deck with Torment of Hailfire as the main wincon. It is by no means a budget deck, it is a Cedh deck but this build is very nice for budget!! I love combo decks, and this is inspiring enough it ALMOST made me change some of my strategy. My main strategy is to storm off with rituals into the torment, or tutor for a Notion Thief or Narset Parter of Veils and hit wheel effects to gain a huge advantage, also utilizes Waste Not and Liliana's caress for a glass cannon strategy to make sure i can 1 shot with the Torment.

@grantdotcom 4 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, my favourite commander!

@louisstructure359 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been interested in this commander, but still unsure of its capabilities. This changed my mind!

@user-iu7qp7lm6y 4 жыл бұрын

id love to see the brawl decks upgraded into commander ones

@troya.tellinghuisen619 4 жыл бұрын

Mitch you mad genius I love it.

@quingo7526 4 жыл бұрын

This is definetly my sort of deck, i love playing decks with alternate wins to just direct damage, and This deck gives the choice of mill or ping depending on your draw. Definetly want to gives This deck a go when i have some spare cash, especially as i have little success with tri colour decks :)

@PhazonOmega 4 жыл бұрын

Final Parting! YES! Kess was my first EDH deck I built when I really got into EDH, and I realized how good Final Parting was! An excellent budget card to say the least, and one of the last cards to remove when optimizing, I would expect! One VERY important thing...this was CLEARLY misprinted. Obviously, this was meant to be Final Farting, what with the wafting purple smoke around Liliana's legs and everything, and how your opponents will feel ill soon after it resolves. :P

@echoesvayne9790 4 жыл бұрын

Behold the beyond is my pet card for kess that I cant bring myself to remove

@killacash22 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome deck as always man! Ive been using the Hapatra budget deck for awhile and the $50 budget is amazing. Also i feel like Xenegos is an incredibly budget deck besides the commander being $10-15. Xenegos decks in some playgroups also have a lot of politics in them since no one wants to die really fast. You could even make it an annihilator sub theme making your opponents sacrifice perments as well as taking huge amounts of damage during your combat steps. Anyways keep up the great work!

@captmkg 4 жыл бұрын

As someone who has been following for a while now, your video quality and delivery have just raised the bar on the standard for these kind of videos. It's really a joy to watch these and build out my decks to play against my friend who has been playing for a lot longer than I have, and it's always fun. Thanks again!

@echoesvayne9790 4 жыл бұрын

VELA... she was my first commander! I love her with rite of replication kicked to deal 30 damage to everyone

@DiabloMatrix968 4 жыл бұрын

Great deck tech, love grixis style decks , especially nicol bolas decks

@asimpletrashgoblin8109 4 жыл бұрын

Also, that pinger land can be the target of the flicker spell to kill everyone instead of mana.

@metalthrashingnerdpodcast9864 4 жыл бұрын

I would actually build this as a non combo deck and just see what kind of chaos I can create. She is really good

@chrisgallo2236 4 жыл бұрын

Build her as a wheels deck.

@gutsbadguy50 4 жыл бұрын

Cool deck as always mitch! One thing I've noticed about a lot of budget decks is they need to play TONS of taplands. Have you thought about devoting some budget to the cheaper manabase upgrades, like painlands and battlelands? It might not be the most exciting part of deckbuilding, but having a good manabase can make a deck much stronger and more fun to play.

@thiefofhyrule8000 4 жыл бұрын

I use her as my Nekusar commander. Switch between the two. She works really well as a lower tier Wheel Commander when my friends get mad at me...

@raydelmartinez2905 4 жыл бұрын

Another sweet deck tech.

@itayraviv2422 4 жыл бұрын

Woah, what an expensive ramp. Used to see Fellwar Stone only in the upgrade part.

@BlueInkAlchemy 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting take on Kess! I'd consider Crux of Fate as another board wipe. Since the deck is relatively light on creatures, Crux of Fate can help keep the board clear. With the mana rocks being used, getting Kess back out onto the field shouldn't tax us as much as the spell would damage our opponents. And at around $1, it's within the budget requirements of the deck. Just a thought!

@CraigArgyleAudio 4 жыл бұрын

Since Ral is in here, a good 2 card combo with Kess specifically is Chain of Smog. If you minus Ral to copy it, and you have a counterspell in hand, you just target yourself with the discard and choose to copy infinitely and burn the table out. Because Kess allows you to cast that discarded counterspell to the graveyard, your opponents will need either 2 ways to remove a PW at instant speed, or 3 counters for both copies of Smog. 2 very unlikely scenarios in most pods. It is a bit all in, but for Kess specifically it is a combo that Final Parting can just win from.

@r0hz 4 жыл бұрын

I swapped out an island with high market; it's been a great addition to the deck. There was one game where I had the deadeye + drake combo but no graveyard (exiled), luckily i had mnemonic wall and high market in play and drew connive//concoct. I started a chain of concoct + high market + mnemonic wall to mill my dualcaster + twinflame win combo. I'm also thinking about adding nim deathmantle as a backup combo because the deadeye drake combo is famous and having deadeye out while waiting for the next turn to cast drake is too risky.

@Zekparsh 4 жыл бұрын

Been wanting a good budget list for her. I've been building out my Sevinne deck, so would be cool to have a different form of graveyard recursion to bounce back between.

@AntonHellsten 4 жыл бұрын

Yes holy man thank you

@brandonteppelin6353 4 жыл бұрын

I've got a Kess alter art that's John Constantine. Since rockstar Johnny is always burning his bridges and ruining friendships, I thought Kess and her ability fit him. There's a slight sac theme and various shenanigans, but of course the main thing is to slam dunk spells into enemies faces over and over.

@AntonHellsten 4 жыл бұрын

Kess can do anything

@finalstride9756 4 жыл бұрын

I just got kenrith and I would love a cheap deck tech for him

@AbrahCadavre 4 жыл бұрын

This is super cool! You've been building some epic combo decks lately, but what about solid combat? Perhaps a Xenagos deck is on the horizon? :)

@christophobia6415 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, i was thinking of brewing with my random pile of cards but this video is cool, thanks mitch Also fifth??

@echoesvayne9790 4 жыл бұрын

1)tutor for behold the beyond 2)resolve behold the beyond fetching "mana geyser", "mizzix's mastery", and "fork" 3)win on the turn you can cast mana geyser for 8 or more. Get exsanguinate, dark ritual, and a swamp with the 2nd behold the beyond from the overloaded mizzix mastery after you start with mana geyser... all because the roon player slowed the game down with a perplexing chimera. So once that finally got taken away I just went off

@echoesvayne9790 4 жыл бұрын

I just did this and had a narset's reversal in the graveyard to copy my first mana geyser after an opponent tries to counter it. It actually made the turn even better haha. Fizzles the counter spell and then I could cast mana geyser a 2nd time and increasing vengeance it before I did the mizzix mastery craziness... with a mind's desire resolved at the end too... as if the exsanguinate I got to copy with ral with x equal to 39 wasn't enough :)

@yuhboidev9457 4 жыл бұрын

Another fantastic card is burning Inquiry, think about it with kess on the field your burning Inquiry is a ancestral recall but there is the random Claus but as long as you can get a couple instant and sorcerys your golden ;)

@asuperfrog 4 жыл бұрын

Oh God I need this.

@violetblight69 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to mention Curious Homunculus as another ramp option.

@lastblockbuster 4 жыл бұрын

This channel is so amazing

@antiwhatever5391 4 жыл бұрын

Just got this ordered...hopefully it was an affiliate link. Only got two upgrades nothing crazy. Love the videos though man! I don’t like playing the same commander over and over so these budget decks are amazing!

@andresaggelu4043 4 жыл бұрын

Dude thanks! Ive been trying to make riku etb work for several months now but these combos can be abused there I already have most of these cards. Also Warstorm Surge is a card that i love but never expected to see in a real focused deck

@Lasor4 4 жыл бұрын

Cool deck! I'm currently looking to build something similar with Elsha 😅

@keanulinkers4487 4 жыл бұрын

Holy shit Mitch did ya read my mind

@brandtmichael3868 4 жыл бұрын

If you want a competitive Kess deck, put Doomsday in this deck and build around finding/casting that. For example, Thassa's Oracle. I've won on turn 4 and even turn 3 with this combo

@jordanclark9619 4 жыл бұрын

wall of lost thoughts could also be a viable replacement for drowned secrets under the right conditions i think.

@arthurmaia8961 4 жыл бұрын

Great deck tech! :) Maybe you could do a Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge one?

@voxkine9385 4 жыл бұрын

I made a Kess deck... my friends banned it permanently... I call it “Kess, Treason mage” and includes about 20 treason effects in it and focuses on stealing things and then sacrificing them for profit... Stalking Vengeance is a fun combo with it...

@adrason8339 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds really fun. But I must admit, I would be pretty mad at my friends if they banned such a unique and interesting take on Kess...

@voxkine9385 4 жыл бұрын

Adrason it was pretty mean. Absurdly mean. I let one of them play it against me, just in a 1v1 game, just to see how awful it was and it was just terrible. They didn’t even get stalking vengeance out but I couldn’t cast creatures fast enough. I tried casting my 5 mana commander, they stole it, hit me with it, then sacrificed it to draw 2 cards. Rinse/repeat. I’m sad it was banned, but I completely understand it. It’s also pretty easy to counter imo. Flooding the board with tiny things makes it hard to break through. It also makes Kess a huge target.

@chrisgallo2236 4 жыл бұрын

Do you happen to have a list of the deck?

@voxkine9385 4 жыл бұрын

Chris Gallo not off hand but I’ll try to find the deck and see if I can get it for you.

@MineCraftrules17 4 жыл бұрын

@@voxkine9385 We're waiting

@Phenolisothiocyanate 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder why you never use Counterspell; even in decks that use counter magic? It's cheap, both in mana and monetary cost, and works on everything.

@zoobnash2578 4 жыл бұрын

It's possible he thinks it contributes to a more toxic archetype

@FunnyPrankLaughs 4 жыл бұрын

Noah Sundseth more toxic archetype? Counterspells are a toxic archetype? Jeesh.

@DasJarHead 4 жыл бұрын

Most cards are what, like less than $1ish right? Save for a few cards he considers important, I’d guess counterspell ends up being more meta specific over the $0.25 counters that are generally “good enough.”

@captainpeen9880 4 жыл бұрын

I think he just assumes people will include cheap staples like Counterspell

@VoidArchon 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't actually watched the video yet, but I assume it's impractical to keep UU open in a tri-color deck with a budget manabase. Sometimes I use negate/essence scatter over classic counterspell for that reason

@TheNewShenmui 3 жыл бұрын

Rites of refusal could be a nice add to this deck (and every recursion deck that runs blue. Don't know why this is never considered)

@crovax1375 4 жыл бұрын

He may be a bit more mana, but I've playing Scholar of Ages with Ghostly Flicker combos for additional value

@chrisgallo2236 4 жыл бұрын

Do you think throwing in Great Whale even though it’s 7 mana would be a good idea to get another Peregrine Drake effect into the deck or should I just keep the CMC of the deck to lower cards?

@echoesvayne9790 4 жыл бұрын

I like this deck tech though because I had about 10 cards that needed slotted out of my kess

@justing6350 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do an upgraded/updated version of this deck using a man lab effect? I know you hate lab man effects but I'd love to see your take on this type of build!

@Foxribble19 4 жыл бұрын

What do you think of the dramatic scepter combo as a budget upgrade?

@joltyboy3641 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta ask this again when you optimize do you do each card individually cause if you do the cart optimizer it isn't near $50

@flareinc7413 3 жыл бұрын

Holy shiet, this is magnificent :O Much interesting than my Doomsday-Kess. Need to rebuild :p

@varomata6701 4 жыл бұрын

Really nice deck, i'm building one similar, sadly most of those combos are forbidden in my playgroup :/

@dorianbake5888 4 жыл бұрын

Altar of the brood.

@bigsludge711 4 жыл бұрын

have you ever thought of trying to do a Blind Seer deck? he's very strange in playstyle

@garyduckman8666 4 жыл бұрын

My one thought is why not add in some storm cards? grapeshot, tendrils of agony and brain freeze are all commander legal and would work great with infinite casts of ghostly flicker. plus none of them are very expensive at all on the places i buy my cards (mostly Cardmarket).

@gutsbadguy50 4 жыл бұрын

Important thing to note about the dualcaster/flicker combo is it *doesn't* cast flicker; it copies it, which doesn't add to the storm count. That's why Ral Zarek has the text "cast or copy," so it will trigger from interactions like this. You can still storm off with Release to the Wind and Baral's Expertise, though.

@gormold4163 4 жыл бұрын

5:00 you didn’t even mention that after you use these as tutors you can cast them from the graveyard.

@Machtri343 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's implied, given Kess

@DoppelkeksLP 4 жыл бұрын

Since it's Kess we are talking about here (he mentions her ability at the beginning and throughout the video often enough) it is fairly obvious that all of the sorceries and instans can be used again for more value. That is her main gimmick after all.

@supaspiffy 3 жыл бұрын

Fast forward to 2021: It's not $50 no more.

@blackwingdlt 4 жыл бұрын

Tromokratis decklist, please.

@lizardoo8632 4 жыл бұрын

Have you considered a Glissa deck? She’s a great budget commander and a great commander

@liemsolow3697 4 жыл бұрын

Could ya do a Raff Capashen deck tech at some point?

@PhazonOmega 4 жыл бұрын

Sunscorched desert is part of one of those combos, right? Infinite ETB's on your lands means infinite damage!

@gutsbadguy50 4 жыл бұрын

You can also gain infinite life with the gain-lands!

@lastblockbuster 4 жыл бұрын

I'm running this exact kess deck with the upgrades,I've seen success pulling off infinite etb/cast triggers with drowned secrets and Sage's row denizen on board, how do I pull off the Sunscorched desert combo?

@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын

@@lastblockbuster Dualcaster Mage and ghostly flicker are the other combo pieces.

@theblasian3911 4 жыл бұрын

Would u think any of the red wheel effects would work in this deck?

@hk015 4 жыл бұрын

So is it possible for you to make a Voltron like deck for Traxos, Scourge of Kroog ? or do you have a idea? or like building a construct tribal or golem deck with it? like giving it Blackblade Reforged with Swiftfoot Boots ?

@zoobnash2578 4 жыл бұрын

"Crumbling necro-polis"

@curtismallory1162 Жыл бұрын

If you're reading this comment, can someone please explain if I can play instants on other players turns with Kess?

@lodys5528 4 жыл бұрын

Please also do garna, the bloodflame

@andreaguiduzzi9821 4 жыл бұрын

Is possibile build a budget commander deck with Grand Arbiter Augustin IV? Thx guys

@Zackeus1992 4 жыл бұрын

Great whale too expensive as an alternative to run with pergrine?

@oldiesmusiclover22 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know how often you guys look at comments but I have 3 decks I'm attempting to build Lovisia Coldeyes, Anafenza(Humans) and Jarad Golgari Lich Lord I want to build them on a 25$ budget but have no ideas how. I just don't want to use the persist combo Jarad if that's possible.

@alexmcmeme5725 4 жыл бұрын

Please if possible cover a tech on Rankle, Master of pranks.

@urfthemanatee5698 4 жыл бұрын

Yooo! Can you do an Oko, thief of Crowns Oathbreaker deck? Throne of Eldraine is about to release and Oathbreaker is pretty popular. Also, Food mechanics seem very interesting!!!

@90spepe 4 жыл бұрын

I have a question: can you play the "Transmute" part of a card from your Graveyard with Kess? Or are you only allowed to play the main effect such as "Counter target Instant or Sorcery" from Muddle the Mixture (for example)

@randalllittman4109 4 жыл бұрын

you aren't "casting" a transmute, I believe its actually a special action(I think), but i know for sure you arent casting a spell with transmute when you are transmuting

@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын

@@randalllittman4109 It is an activated ability that can only be activated while the card is in your hand.

@magicmaster9957 4 жыл бұрын

Make a commander deck around thantis the war weaver

@blakecarter1867 4 жыл бұрын

Grumgully combo next ;)

@MrVintageLaser 4 жыл бұрын

i'm surprised you didn't include Circu as a combo payoff. the infinite cast triggers on blue spells would make him exile your opponents' libraries

@lastblockbuster 4 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion, might add Circu in my sideboard

@MagusArchivis 4 жыл бұрын

@The Commander's Quarters Thoughts on how this would run with Inalla instead of Kess?

@troya.tellinghuisen619 4 жыл бұрын

She could work and attacks at a different angle, but the reason I chose kess personally was the flashback ability so there was a element of "deal with me twice" instead of a 1 time answer.

@keithcarsillo1748 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a reason guttersnipe or young pyromancer isnt included?

@muddybuddy1481 4 жыл бұрын

Hey guys I'm newer to this channel...around whats the power level of these budget decks?

@monoblack9765 4 жыл бұрын

is Creators' Quarters still going on. You inspired to join the content side of MTG. Recently i finaly started a channel and wanted to see if Creators' Quarters was still in effect.

@TheMovingGrass 4 жыл бұрын

Love grixis and love spellslinging! How well would a couple of storm cards work in this deck?

@steveng6721 4 жыл бұрын

I mean storm is generally strong in spellslinger

@SuperLandocommando 4 жыл бұрын

Austin Haire throw in isochron scepter, dramatic reversal, aetherflux reservoir and any storm card and you’re solid. the combo can be a little tedious to assemble, but if you’re willing to spend some money on good tutors, it’s a really strong deck.