Orval (a beer geek's guide to Trappist Beer ep3)

Orval (a beer geek's guide to Trappist Beer ep3) | The Craft Beer Channel

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Жыл бұрын

It's the third in our series all about Trappist beer - beers made in Trappist monasteries under the supervision of monks for good causes. This time we're looking at one of the most iconic beers in the world, Orval! Join us to learn the story of the fish, why cleaning your fermenters can be a bad idea, and about how Orval is dry hopped!
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@kaveendravasuthevan7838 Жыл бұрын

Being a post-grad student in economic history, I know the amount of research and effort it takes to do justice in representing the long history span of something. And you sure did do the history justice. So well narrated and effortlessly explained! Love the balance these historic episodes bring to the channel. Keep it up!

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Kaveendra! This took a long time to get right in the research, on the day and in the edit!

@ohmightyzeus6135 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm sure it is a lot of work but I always love to hear the backstory of the beers. Thanks chaps!

@westxun Жыл бұрын

AI.

@alexkolomitz3210 Жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure if you were going to continue this series or not. Thank you so much for picking it back up and spreading the word! I adore Trappist and Belgian beer and think more people should know about it!

@PetraKann Жыл бұрын

A Blue Chimay (9% ABV) is priced at almost $10 for a small stubby (330 mL) Only flaw is the high price.

@oracleoftruth Жыл бұрын

@@PetraKann oh wow. Belgian beer is disproportionately inexpensive in the UK and Ireland (and probably most of the rest of Europe). Supermarkets often sell Belgian beer for around $3 for 330ml. I assume the import charges must be high but not sure if it's import tax or shipping.

@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын

It is the alcohol duty and VAT in the Republic of Ireland and UK

@oracleoftruth Жыл бұрын

@@oscarosullivan4513 but that's much higher in UK and Ireland isn't it? Wouldn't that make Belgian beer more expensive?

@DamienE11 Жыл бұрын

@@oracleoftruth I assume Alchaeon is in Australia like me as that's what I recently saw it on sale for, and it's a combination of import/shipping fees and Australia having weird alcohol tax laws that tax beer and spirits very highly and wine a lot less.

@Dcalzaretta Жыл бұрын

I visited the abbey in 2019 on a bicycle trip to Trappist breweries in Belgium and The Netherlands. I was able to sit next to the spring where the trout found the ring. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the toilet where her husband was speared. Now THAT would have been worth seeing! Also, the Petite Orval on draft was AMAZING! Another great video!

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Not sure he was speared on site... I think it was at his home.

@pczTV Жыл бұрын

I lived in Belgium as part of a business rotation and made it my quest to visit every Trappist brewery there. Orval is, above and beyond, my favorite beer is the world. Just amazing! It is waaaay in the boondocks of Belgium. Took quite an effort to,go to the Ardennes to see it. But, like a t bone steak, you can only have 1 or 2 …;-) … per sitting. Super powerful and complex taste. I also used Michael Jackson’s guide to beer as my guide as I navigated Europe.

@Sir_Racha Жыл бұрын

Trappist and Belgium beers are my favorite. Thanks for sharing!

@freespirit331 Жыл бұрын

Nice, for me Belgian German English In that order

@vruychev Жыл бұрын

I was able to put my hands on 4 bottles. Absolutely delicious. After trying the first one, I was able to collect the dregs of the other three. Needless to say, a brew project is in the works! Cheers 🍻

@JimMcDowell-xv5xx Жыл бұрын

My wife has only raided my beer stash once, she saw loads of Orval and assumed I wouldn’t miss one, managed to take my oldest bottle, also 2016, so nice to enjoy it with you boys vicariously. And could you do next one in monk outfits, with or without skateboards (preferably with)

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Damn I hope she enjoyed it!

@liambrown911 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved this episode of the cult classic beer. There is truly nothing like it. Got ten bottles in my stash at the moment, only 2 months old mind. Great insight and history lesson chaps. Love the bottles and always save them for homebrew!

@gruelichkulsheim9445 Жыл бұрын

This channel is fantastic. I appreciate ALL of your content please keep it up

@hb9011 Жыл бұрын

One of my favourite beers ever. Complex, yet super drinkable.

@Sir_Racha Жыл бұрын

I had to run out and buy a few Orval's to rewatch this. What a history lesson! Thanks Brad (and Jonny ;)

@robertjoyce5629 Жыл бұрын

What a show! Love this series!! Love Trappist ales. :)

@onyva3256 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. I always thought Orval was the closest in style to a British beer, now I know why. Excellent series.

@Jango1989 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant video! Thanks for these.

@Wessel603 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorites, I store quite a few in the cellar. I can't wait for the other trappist! 😁

@xander1052 Жыл бұрын

Love me a fresh bottle of Orval, had a 2 monther and it was amazing

@beaudwayful Жыл бұрын

Now I have to buy some Orval. Haven't had one in a while. Great video!

@alexyorkshots Жыл бұрын

The king of beers! Maybe? Yes. Great episode anyway fellas. Thanks for reminding me i need to stock up.

@loekessers Жыл бұрын

I think you're spot on with the hop monk bro's. I visited Orval last month and drank a green Orval they only serve at the restaurant near the Abbey. It tasted like a dry hopped American pale ale. I did not expect that! It was delicious. If you're there make sure to try it.

@danielgrant1725 Жыл бұрын

Cracking video, forgot just how amazing Orval is!

@Big-Harry Жыл бұрын

Great video on the history of Orval, might buy a few bottles & save them for few years just to see the flavour profile

@bradleynear956 Жыл бұрын

love this channel love your content

@bobdegraaf Жыл бұрын

Great to hear more about the crazy history. Details of the process are very interesting and well explained at the visitor center. Small correction, it's not Petit Orval, but Orval Vert (meaning green) and it's a Patersbier (trappist single).

@bhkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Жыл бұрын

Great history! I have a few aged orvals that I should start consider drinking (2017/2018/2019), will do and see if i find this jammy-fruity -oxydated notes thay you had with your 2016 one

@Vinnie13 Жыл бұрын

Since watching your old video trying 3 vintages of Orval in Lockdown I've been buying a bottle every year for the #beerstash! 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 so far. Was going to stop at 5 years (i.e this year) but after watching this it sounds like 7 years may have to be the way forward 😂

@ducksound8023 Жыл бұрын

Man the quality and depth of this channel just keeps increasing, you are beating out actual television in quality and focus. Not all episodes are like this, or should be but damn you are killing it.

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Always trying to up our game especially with the history episodes!

@stevewheeler6120 Жыл бұрын

My all time fav beer got loads of different vintages in the cellar. Great that you guys are doing this series, only gripe is that you didnt source the glassware!

@dapotatoboy4066 Жыл бұрын

skate monks is absolutely the name of my next belgian homebrew

@Timmy-Bro Жыл бұрын

Its here!! Wahoo!

@Tomtiburon 7 ай бұрын

After 4 years, the "Brett" kicked in yo!😂🍻

@GuyWets-zy5yt 9 ай бұрын

Many years ago, I tasted one Orval 16 years old!!!

@felipesparks5267 Жыл бұрын

I home brew and can make some decent Belgian style beers. But Orval is difficult. I haven’t made one even close. And yes I’ve tried using Brett for secondary ferm and/or the bottle conditioning side of it. Still no luck.

@justina.6769 Жыл бұрын

I'll join Patron to keep the shenanigans going 😂

@davidmallard8729 Жыл бұрын

I reckon you should approach Lego. A new series of mini-figures - the Monk Series!! Brew Monk, Admin Monk, Scuba Monk, Business Monk....!!!! It's an irresistible proposition - endless opportunities to extend the Monking Series!! Stop Monking around and get on the blower to Lego!!

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Haha. I know this is a joke, but as a friend of the guy who runs the excellent Beer Farts insta which tells the story of beers through lego, I know that the company won't work with any alcohol brands. Their loss! The Brew Monk range would be killer.

@heretobrew Жыл бұрын

Delicious. I have a - what for it - whisky barrel aged imperial stout braggot with brett in the cellar. What do you think the brett might do to such a mammoth beer as it continues aging?

@jameslopez958 Жыл бұрын

LoL 😂 Would be a great name for a Beer 😉🍻. Scuba Monk 😁.

@matt__williams Жыл бұрын

The yeast and rafters story is how Cantillon developed their yeast character I believe.

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

It's definitely an Orval story, but also a cliche that a lot of breweries have used.

@7paintboy Жыл бұрын

Johnie and Brad, I’m outfitting my taproom with 16 oz and 12 oz glassware it I’d love your input on glass style/shape.

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Willi Becher for pints, stemless wine glasses (like what we use) or Brussels shaped goblets for everything else! We will eventually do a video on glassware, just trying to get it right

@adammyren8279 Жыл бұрын

Did you guys record a lot of videos in a row, the same day or does Johnny really love his Budvar-shirt?

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Haha we always bulk record so we are in the ZONE! Sometimes we change outfit, sometimes we get over excited and forget.

@adammyren8279 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCraftBeerChannel Damn! And you guys drank some heavy beers in the last couple of videos! The day after must have been heavy. 😅

@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын

I’ve had on Orval Day an Orval that sat for 6 months in my cellar, and it was delicious. 😋😋😋😋 It was the first time that I’ve aged an Orval. I will age more bottles in the future. I’ve also got a book at home that’s called Trappist the ten wonderful beers by author and one of the owners of the Glazen toren brewery Jef van den Steen who got to visit most of the Trappist monasteries and tells about their history and their beers, I’ve got to mention that the book is dated a bit, because he went to Spencer trappist brewery and to Achel which aren’t trappist breweries anymore. I believe that the book is from 2015, back then those two were still considered to be Trappists and Tynt meadow and Tre fontane didn’t exist then yet. It’s pretty interesting, I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in the history of the Trappist monasteries and their respective breweries.

@bogdanradoi590 Жыл бұрын

Aging Orval is sublime!

@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын

@@bogdanradoi590 yes indeed, it is!

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

That book is amazing and where a lot of this info came from. I met Jef once when I toured his brewery. He is... well... the experience will stay with me for a long time. A true Belgian brewer if ever there was one.

@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын

@@TheCraftBeerChannel wow cool Jonny! Would love to meet him, I really love his way of writing regarding the Trappist monasteries with their respective monastery. His knowledge is amazing!

@harmanbrewing7517 4 ай бұрын

Great vid as usual. I love a Trappist beer but have you tried beers brewed or under the supervision of Jedi’s? Obiers 😉 🍻😋#oneforbrad

@sergeanthorvath Жыл бұрын

How about combining the Trappist angle with Doppelbock and do a vid on Andechs Doppelbock?

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Well they aren't trappists but it might well be worth a video about abbey beers once we're done with the Trappists!

@terryhodkin1851 Жыл бұрын

What hops are used to make it? Also this may be controversial but would love to see new world hops being used like Nelson Sauvin

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Their website tells me Bavarian Hallertau, the Slovenian Styrian Golding and the Alsacian Strisselspalt

@flambement Жыл бұрын

On a sad note : they changed the processes/recipe during the last ten years : for starters, they now filter the water and add back the salts later to adjust for the water profile, but they still lose some minerals in the process. And secondly, the "garde" is only one/two weeks long instead of 2/3 month (not sure of the exact durations, but you get the idea). That doesn't diminish the work of the brewmistress (?) in any way, who has an enormously tremendous knowledge of brewing.

@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын

Can you review Worthington White Shield

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

If we can find an angle, sure!

@mrougelot Жыл бұрын

24:30 must be the aftertaste of trout that puts people off

@oracleoftruth Жыл бұрын

Sorry to be that guy but sure we're all geeks here: the process of carbonation described is spunding not krausening. Krausening is when instead of adding sugar you add wort to carbonate (for reinheitsgebot reasons i assume). Fermenting under pressure to carbonate (or for other reasons) is spunding. I'm 100% sure Johnny knows this and just said the wrong word.

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Totes apologies! Even clocked it in the edit and forgot to amend in subtitles!

@AFCStickyPenguin Жыл бұрын

I’ve listened half a dozen times and can’t figure out when your bottle was brewed? 202012? 😂 2:09

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Haha apologies. December 2022.

@AFCStickyPenguin Жыл бұрын

@@TheCraftBeerChannel don’t apologise, I found it funny! 🍻

@jameslopez958 Жыл бұрын

I like the Term! I will have a Crack At It! 🤔😲✌️😎

@BobWitlox Жыл бұрын

You didn't get any of the sediment from the 7y old bottle 😢

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

I mean it's all down to taste, but we don't like pouring the sediment into our beers, and the bottle tells you not to drink it either so we try to drink as the brewer intended!

@BobWitlox Жыл бұрын

@@TheCraftBeerChannel Each his own I suppose, but I find there's a lot of flavour in the sediment. Usually all the good stuff.

@marc5445 Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one hearing the first one was brewed in “December 202012” ?

@kubrabenelli9117 Жыл бұрын

Love the Oval beer and cheese, but the visit to the monastery/ brewery was a bit underwhelming.

@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын

Indeed, thought Orval is one of the more open monasteries. we have to respect that their main focus is their way of life, not tourism.

@Edog1337 Жыл бұрын

Orval has that weird funky taste I don’t like. Give me Chimay or St Bernardus any day over it.

@Seether1975 Жыл бұрын

This might be controversial…Orval is my least favourite of the trappist beers. But still interesting to watch.

@Zepp914 Жыл бұрын

I agree, though I haven't had anything from Tre Fontane yet.

@Seether1975 Жыл бұрын

@@Zepp914 I should've added trappist beers of Belgium. I also have not had Tre Fontane.

@Doupyourflies Жыл бұрын

But it's the best. Which one is your best?

@jasuindiloan Жыл бұрын

It's not that weird and I didn't like it at first either. It grew on me and is probably my go to beer now in any regular or traditional beer bar here in Belgium. The Tre Fontane ones are interesting as they are very herbal. The few one-of beers they brewed did interest me a lot more though. They did a collab with Westmalle that was just mind blowing.

@Seether1975 Жыл бұрын

@@Doupyourflies It is very difficult for me to answer which one is the best. Ito Tripel, it is Chimay. Dark strong/Quad, I am not so sure. Probably between Rochefort 10 or Westvleteren 12, but I also enjoy Chimay Blue. I have never had them side by side to truly try to decide on a favourite. My favourite Belgian styles in general is dubbel and dark strong/quad.