LogikBot - Affordable, Real-World and Comprehensive - www.logikbot.com There are two core paths on LogikBot. One for the data analyst role and one for the machine learning engineering role. I've added the data analyst role recently because machine learning has become so difficult to break into. If you're new to IT, I'd highly recommend this path. You can be in a real-world data analsyt role in under a year if you really apply yourself. LogikBot is the most affordable and fastest way to attain this role. The platform even has an exam simulator for preparing for the exam. For the data analyst role, you take two courses then prepare for and pass exam PL-300. This exam, PL-300, is the Microsoft Certified PowerBI Data Analyst Certification. If you're in a shortcut role, then there's an entire path laid out for learning machine learning. The platform used by Uber and Microsoft. I worked at both companies. The courses are real-world and comprehensive. This is not the easy way. There is no easy way. This is one of the few platform that's offers a real-world approach to working in AI.
@1bullgod Жыл бұрын
would you recommend getting a data analyst job first after completing sql course on logikbot and then after take the ML course after getting some job experience or would it be okay to study back to back?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@1bullgod Exactly. I'd recommend the data analyst role for two years while you're learning machine learning.
@ChillSorcerer1234 Жыл бұрын
mike i do get whats the data amalyst role thats what im gonna aim now.. but what does the shortcut role mean? i didnt quite get it
@Mo-mg3fg Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537How am i gonna learn machine learning tho so does that mean the even from my bachelors at ai/ml won’t help
@TrusePkay11 ай бұрын
I just spotted your channel and used 1 hour to watch your videos. As a newbie data scientist, you are absolutely right. This is what I have been practicing for months now. At first I said this is going to be one of those killjoys and hope-dashers. But I listened and I am liberated and ever more hopeful. At some point, I know I will become a machine learning or data engineer. There is just so much confusion concerning the roles so I chose the ordinary name Data Scientist. But I agree SQL is required in all of them. You mentioned every step I am struggling to gain experience with as an amateur who is very worried about his future in the job market. Sourcing and packaging Analysis and visualization Preprocessing (cleaning and normalization) Modeling Evaluation Deployment or production. You mentioned ensemble models. I saw a post where a narrator claimed ensemble models performed better than neural networks. AI is about prediction and suggestions based on pattern predictions. To the layperson, it looks like intelligence. Thank you for the enlightenment
@gags-villsounds53512 жыл бұрын
I saw this video. As someone who majored Statistics and Machine learning at school , I can assure you this is the most honest take on machine learning engineering ever. I have been on a job hunt for more than a year already.
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Have you had any luck? Any positive feedback from interviewers? It sucks. The data science scam has really made entry level roles very difficult.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@Kief kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gpp-hpqgnJiRdWw.html
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@Kief Nope. Here you go. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJ11pcR1tLaugIk.html
@prico33582 ай бұрын
Any luck?
@nelsonjoppi Жыл бұрын
this is the reddest pill about data science i've ever seen, thank you sir
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice to have you.
@mohallahham Жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece. Straight to the point, confident, and most importantly helpful.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for those kind words and welcome to my channel.
@senthurkumaran14362 ай бұрын
Thanks for the no BS talk. you have no idea how many people need a reality check before starting off on a huge journey such as this, myself included.
@thedatajanitor95372 ай бұрын
Yeah. So many people are so lost when it comes to this space. It's hard as hell for noobs. Much harder than most can imagine.
@marvhan888 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, you saved me two years of study with all your videos. Thank you so so much. Will sign up for your course
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@davidrodord2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best advices I´ve found on the internet, I´m pursuing a PhD in Intelligent Systems but didn't get much real world insight from professors, most of them are in Research rather than production environments. The most important real world insight was when I worked in the electrical industry and realized there is a necessity of data related roles in the industry, nonetheless didn't found where to look on how to become a Data Engineer (Most of the posts and everything is like courses of people who is not in real world applications), is it better to master python and SQL to become a data engineer rather than other languages or frameworks? Personally I really like Math and Statistics but realized that most of the tasks in PhD of writing regressors and Perceptron from scratch is not necessary for applications since there are many libraries from model teams with very efficient programming and optimization, the critical step is cleansing data and picking the correct model. Thanks for your videos, any suggest is welcome.
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thank you David. I appreciate that. Here's a course that may help you with data cleansing. www.logikbot.com/courses/data-cleansing-master-class-in-python
@vamostimow Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 where did you learn content of this course ?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@vamostimow Books.
@stevenmatetcho3229 Жыл бұрын
I watch this video like 10 times There’s a lot of insight
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that!! I have lots more. :)
@almostdropout1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Complete and most detailed analysis i have found on youtube.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Welcome to the channel.
@haniellopez39564 ай бұрын
Hey my brother! So this is my goal on how to become a machine learning engineer! Im a freshman in college but imma follow your approach. Its been tough finding roles in this freshman year. I’ve been unemployed this whole year but this has been great learning experience to see how tough it is to get a part time while studying and this will grow my tenacity when searching my role in being an ml engineer
@thedatajanitor95374 ай бұрын
You won't get a job in machine learning without a college degree. Focus on that first.
@haniellopez39564 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 thanks im doing that right now, so just focus on getting experience in data analyst roles, and have that punched in these years?
@Vitulli19702 жыл бұрын
Wow... Thanks for the straight talk. I really enjoy the frankness. I will will be watching more of your vids.
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steven.
@wahyunanandika16797 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for bashing me with this fact, it makes me more motivated to learn
@einsteindream8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this one. What you mention just confirms what I have learnt so far. Just for the sake of sharing, I have been a "machine learning engineer" intern at a financial institution (a microfinance more precisely) for 6 months during which I explored the task of building credig scoring model for existing customers. I have read books, papers, blogs which helped me understand the field of machine learning. During this internship, I have also made so many mistakes during the model building phases. I consider this internship as a "failure" since what I built won't surely work in production but I have learnt a tons.
@lightning369 Жыл бұрын
I found you Data Janitor, Michael West straight from Quora. Your 30 years of experience in data speaks volumes. I have watched a number of your videos and found them well-curated, resourceful, and bare truth with no embellishments. You have no time for sideshows and theatrics. I am in my 3rd year of Bachelors in Computer Science. Is it advisable to model my career in Big Data by starting in a Data Analyst role and working upwards? According to most of your videos, one can get an entry-level data analyst job straight from a bachelor's program.I will appreciate your advice on this.
@BigBrother4Life11 ай бұрын
I love this guy's honesty.
@thedatajanitor953711 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome. Most don't. Too many pansies. :)
@BigBrother4Life11 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 No worries mate, i'd really appreciate if you could also present your couse on your website in a career track manner. For exmaple, 1 -> 2 -> 3 , so someone like me who is starting out wants to know which course to pick first. It is always better to learn from someone who is cruelly honest than someone udemy instructor.
@xlmz9433 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I didn’t realize the data scientist role was actually a ML engineering role. I am still undecided as to where I want to take my career but I recently learned about the research side of things and was wondering which position has a bigger impact on a company, a research scientist/engineer or a ML engineer.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
There's no comparison. Researchers have almost zero impact on a companies bottom line. Machine learning engineers have a continual positive impact. Thanks for the compliment and welcome to the channel.
@bijanshadnia3620 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such straightforward content.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome to the channel.
@Lamarr1682 жыл бұрын
TRUTH! Great info here. I will have to check out your platform.
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lamarr168. Nice to have you!!!
@ricardocaballero63576 ай бұрын
Love your videos, somebody who is really telling the truth and I love the phrase "the real world".
@thedatajanitor95376 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@cschilli8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Much appreciated
@thedatajanitor95378 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@exploringthedata60102 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your video. It did reassure me that what I've been doing is a right bath. Also, I've noted some great information
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@johnmurphy9727 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! I just am finishing up my masters in computer science and I really want to get into ML, thank you for the advice!
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Sure. Good luck.
@johnmurphy9727 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 great videos, had to come back to this because you’ve been right about data jobs and academia, I was able to start off as a data analyst and I will then work my way up to MLE after having real world experience! This is coming from someone who spent 6 years in academia.
@Chill_Magma Жыл бұрын
Honestly I am surprised how you don't have 1 million subscribers . You really get to the important points
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome to the channel.
@Chill_Magma Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Haha I am really learning how real life goes on with your videos unlike these guru vids that I have seen of other people .
@Chill_Magma Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Unfortunately I am not able to purchase your LogikBot because on my country the dollar value is kinda of high . Mr Mike can you please upload a video on legit free resources to learn to be able to secure a ML entry position and start writing real life ML projects? If you can't can you tell me about the resources in a nutshell?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
No such thing as entry level in machine learning. Here... watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdyFirpjy8WafI0.html
@Chill_Magma Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Thanks very much for the eye opening video :D . I also saw your How Can You Become a Machine Learning Engineer? . Boy oh boy I never knew data cleansining played such a big part . I will start to focus more on data analysis for now.
@user-wp8mk3yg4o Жыл бұрын
very good info. please keep posting.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@Paul-yq5ym Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great info. Very honest. I have been a SQL developer, BI developer, ETL developer, performance DBA for over twenty years. Currently working as a junior Azure data engineer. BS appl math, MS data science, proficient in python. ML jobs are extremely difficult to get, even a first interview. I might go the data analyst / PBI route to become an ML engineer.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@arseniikvachan3 ай бұрын
What? 20 years of experience? BSc in Math? MS in Data Science? Dude wake up, you are overqualified for a data analyst.
@Paul-yq5ym3 ай бұрын
@@arseniikvachan Well, yeah, I have been turned down for for jobs for being “overqualified”. Maybe the best path is to get a masters in statistics.
@FahimMahmud-m3bАй бұрын
Interestingly, I suddenly came across your video just after I joined a Kaggle competition for fun. I watched quite a few of your videos and they have been helpful. Straight to the point, no background music and annoying stuffs. I have also visited your platform and will subscribe soon. As an enthusiast and beginner of the machine learning field, what would you recommend for me? I know some python programming, know some machine learning stuffs, and learning SQL inspired by your video. Have a great day!
@SionWilks Жыл бұрын
Little harsh, but true for the most part. However, you forget to mention that with a masters or phd (mostly just phd) you can get an Applied Data scientist position, though this is not a machine learning role like you said and is harder to get. Also, these roles are really for the best of the best, so definitely not an entry level job or an easy path. If someone is looking at the MOOC content just starting out and hoping to get one of these jobs, then yeah your advice is what they need to hear.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. They just fired an entire team of "applied scientists" at Amazon. We don't need more researchers, we need more doer.
@DavidPressley13 күн бұрын
Thank The Algorithm for reminding me that I need to move with purpose by recommending this video
@criticalthinking20192 жыл бұрын
The only cool eye-opening video I have seen....thank you
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Thanks Emmanuel. Thanks for watching.
@criticalthinking20192 жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 I have registered on logikbot. However, I am 32 and have just basic programming and mathematical skills..do you think sir, with your experience, I can make it if give in time and dedication?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
@@criticalthinking2019 I believe you can make it. Don't give up. Break you learning down into digestible segments.
@mohammedinzemamuddin11953 ай бұрын
I am pursuing my Master's in Data-Science and I truly respect you for preaching the facts. Most of my colleagues and me(of course) believe that a Master's degree in Data-Science implies expertise in Machine Learning and to quote you, 'You are in for lot of heart ache' is putting it nicely. 😅
@thedatajanitor95373 ай бұрын
Yeah... most of you are in for one hell of a wakeup call. I'd tell them to plan on being unemployed or working at Starbucks.
@tomonthedrums6 ай бұрын
I feel like Vic Mackey just hit me in the face with a book of hard truths then burnt my face on the stove of reality. Thanks!
@thedatajanitor95376 ай бұрын
Sure. Most need it. Most people are fucking clueless... and that's why there are 300K open jobs for MLE not being filled.
@FezzyDays225 Жыл бұрын
Also thank you so much for your video and guidance.
@ademloghmari40312 ай бұрын
I have watched some of your videos, and I quite like you no sugarcoating approach, however as an engineering student that had taken SQL for two years, I don't understand your point about SQL, I have never actually worked with it in any real world project, but it seems pretty easy and I can't wrap my head around the fact that you think that this takes two years of experience to be decent enough to apply for a machine learning job. I wish you can elaborate more on what is the hard part about it, so that maybe newcomers can focus on that.
@thedatajanitor95372 ай бұрын
You'll find out when you get your first job.
@raomuhammadsohail5273 Жыл бұрын
Sir! your teaching method very imprasive.i like it.and it become a very helpful for me.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Keep watching and thank you.
@hannadamarjian2 жыл бұрын
What skills would you generally consider to be important to have for a junior data engineer roles? Thank you for sharing your thoughts Mike!
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Did you see this video? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ba9_oaWV1bqUc40.html
@hannadamarjian2 жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 I did not; thank you for the link!
@alieninvaders1188 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Sure. Thanks for watching.
@surajjanampally702310 ай бұрын
good insight. nice video.
@thedatajanitor953710 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@arasukiasyan4808 Жыл бұрын
This was a very realistic take on becoming a MLE, I’m switching careers right now. I’m taking a free prep course for a coding boot camp Codesmith CSX. Would you recommend a more efficient route. Codesmith is quite expensive sitting at about 20k.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend you set some realistic expectations. Bootcamps are a joke and the top skill you'll need for any MLE role is SQL. I'd suggest the data analyst path. Without SQL skills, it won't matter how good you are at coding, you won't get a job. SQL is king. Here... watch this,. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdV0dMmayd6shoU.html
@heheheiamasupahstarweeb4 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, super informative and to-the-point video, much appreciated. I am currently an Electrical Engineering student at well known STEM school. My school offers an EE degree option with focus in Machine Learning and Data Science, and I’m wondering if this is something that sounds worth my time if I have aspirations to work in the ML field, or if it’s just a smoke and mirrors thing and I’d be better off pursuing something like Computer Engineering or even CS, or if they’re all viable means to an end and none is inherently “better” than the other. Keep up the great content!
@thedatajanitor95374 ай бұрын
We don't value degrees in the real-world. However, strangely enough, you need to have one in something. If I were headed into machine learning and needed an undergrad it would be in statistics.
@suzanadsuza4819Ай бұрын
Did you know that 80% of all the models built in the real world right now fall into two categories : they are classification and Regression Models. Did you know the top model for Regression classifications are a group of models called gradient boosters and not deep learning models. That's right, most real world machine learning is not deep learning
@fedelopez912 жыл бұрын
So, as a summary. Entry roles as data analysis or programming and learn python are the best way to start your way up to a Machine Learning position. Any recomendations for someone starting programming in 2022? Thanks
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Programming roles are going to require you know how to program. These aren't easy roles to attain. The easiest data role to attain is the data analyst. The easiest IT role is the help desk role. Either way, getting into IT is the hardest part. Once you're in you can move laterally or more easily learn new skills. Yes, any SQL cert will help you.
@LocLe-pn2en6 ай бұрын
As you said, data engineering role is the top role in all of IT, should I become a data engineer or a machine learning engineer? If I should go down the path of machine learning, should I become a junior data analyst or a junior data engineer?
@thedatajanitor95376 ай бұрын
That's up to you.
@iyar220 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have stumbled upon this video in a quora post, and would like to ask for your advice. I'm a first year high school student, that has immense interest in machine learning. To pursue this interest, I've started Andrew Ng's "Supervised Machine Learning : Regression and Classification" course. I've been enjoying it so far, and understanding little by little how things work is very rewarding. So I'd like to ask, what do you think is the best course of action I can take from here? I'd also like to add that: 1. while I'm taking this course I'm self-studying more math, as my current level of math is probably not sufficient. 2. The reason I took the intiative and started learning originates from me starting to self-study python a few months back. I'm fairly proficient with it, and have learned how to use several libaries, mostly related to web scraping . Some examples are: BeautifulSoup, selenium(made some fun bots with it too) and scrapy. Scrapy also led me to studying some basic SQL. I appreciate this video immensly, and hope you could reply.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Focus on getting good grades in high school. There are no entry level roles for machine learning engineers and *without a bachelors* you have zero chance of working in any real-world machine learning role.
@iyar220 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 will definitely not sacrifice my grades, nor am I aspiring to get a job right out of highschool, I am just looking to expand my existing knowledge foundations as much as I can: if not for better skills in the future, than to satisfy my own curiosity. That said, any advise given here is something I'd like to abide by, so what bachelor's degree specifically would be ideal? A computer science degree?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@iyar220 It won't matter. A degree in stats is a good idea and any degree where you learn to work with data would also be great. If I were you, I'd continue to learn SQL and Python and gain some cloud skills and certifications.
@iyar220 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Thank you!
@prvtthd401 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for going straight to the point and for not beating around the bush. Very clear message. I guess you must be good at...INFORMATION CLEANSING as well 😂😂😂 I'll leave now
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Hence... the data janitor. :)
@martinlutherkingjr.55826 ай бұрын
If someone has a basic understanding of python but not enough to be employable yet, in this economy would it make more sense to focus on studying for a data analyst role or a junior back end engineer?
@thedatajanitor95376 ай бұрын
I believe it's much easier to get a DA role than a junior dev role right now. Again, if you are a junior dev and aren't working with SQL then all the Python in the world won't help you get a job. The real-world in ML is about data.
@bertkistoo32725 ай бұрын
Hi, Mike. Great informative video. I’m starting from scratch and was looking to get a role as a MLE. But what I understand from your video, it’s best to start out as a DA… learn ML as you build experience in the work force… then take the ML course, then apply. My question is, does your website teach everything to become a DA then move onto a MLE? And what is the timeline for something like that? Sorry for the long question and thank you for the information.
@thedatajanitor95374 ай бұрын
No such thing as any platform that has everything you need. That's an impossibility. Simply too much information. My platform is the best starting point for a job as a DA in the real-world.
@bertkistoo32724 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537Thank You
@digitalnomad2196 Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel, followed and subscribed. Recent electrical engineer graduate and then did a data science diploma at bootcamp. The information in this 10 mins clip is priceless. Will save you so much time. Find an entry level data eng/data analyst role, gain skills in SQL and ML pipelines. I have a quick question how long do you think it takes to have a decent level of experience to then apply for more machine learning engineer roles on average ?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
A year or two should do it. Thanks for the compliments.
@digitalnomad2196 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Sounds reasonable, thanks again !
@jackrico3930 Жыл бұрын
@@digitalnomad2196Hey man, thinking about going down the same road as you did. Any advice?
@i_youtube_2 жыл бұрын
Let's hear from you in a video: How did you learn applied statistics and math for machine learning?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
On my own. There isn't that much math and most of it's applied.
@sandeepm6252 жыл бұрын
agree. Math is needed for 2 reasons. 1] To get insight (who cares) 2] Folks who write ML libraries and optimization algorithms, someone like who is part of the Tensorflow or Pytorch team.
@Mars.20242 ай бұрын
Thank you for your guidance. Where can we find data to practice data cleaning? Most datasets for online courses are somewhat clean and focus on modeling.
@thedatajanitor95372 ай бұрын
I teach one of the only real-world ones. www.logikbot.com/courses/data-cleansing-master-class-in-python
@akshaypanchal4242 жыл бұрын
I was searching for data science and machine learning courses on online platforms since last year. Here my journey ends now. I am a mechanical engineer and have 6 years of experience in mechanical design and R&D. I am looking to further transition my career to a data science or machine learning engineer. Mike, please let me know that are those courses on your platform will be enough, or do I have to take some other courses as well? Guide me in this journey. Although I have already learned a decent amount of python from Udemy.
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
No one is going to hire you without heavy data experience. There are no entry level roles in machine learning or data science. You'll need to start off at a more entry level role like that of a data analyst. This will be painful because your salary will take a hit. However, right now... there are no other ways other than coming from a programming role.
@akshaypanchal4242 жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 ok, can you guide me then that how could I enter into data science? How I start?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
@@akshaypanchal424 I would suggest you focus on the data analysis role. It's a great entry level role and many of the machine learning engineer roles require SQL and a tool you'll need for the data analyst role. This video should help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gaydi8ugs9jHqYU.html
@CodingCarlo5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice video! What do you recommend to someone working as a Data Scientist and wanted to transition into ML Engineer role?
@thedatajanitor95375 ай бұрын
The DS role is dead. Here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5qCg8unqbSYpaM.html I recommend you learn the roles in the real-world. Here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a8-AmtOSyZmbqGg.html
@AgbojaDavid Жыл бұрын
@the data janitor thanks I've been stuck on your videos because for the first time someone who knows speaks the truth, I affirm this because I've been on the search for years, at least since after completing Andrew NG's ML course in 2020. I even had to enrol for a 2nd degree in Computer Science only to discover that DA is the gateway. What do you suggest, would the CS degree really be so much of an advantage?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Degrees are worthless in AI. Watch this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gr14ZsV9qeCagaM.html The only entry level data job I know of is the DA. If you can do it another way... great... I just haven't seen anyone do it.
@poinkified2 жыл бұрын
The path you propose for Masters and PhD's doesn't work. Companies won't even reply to our applications for analyst roles because they're afraid we'll move on quickly. We get interviews more easily for data science roles, but then interviews feel like we're facing an extreme bias against us. I started programming at 8, was hand-assembling code to machine language at 11, then worked for few years as a programmer before college, where I used SQL a ton, then got a physics PhD, which was data analysis heavy, and then did a postdoc. I didn't go into academia because I don't feel up to it, I'm not that interested in teaching, and I could do my research nights and weekends. In a functioning society, it should have been easy to find a job relevant to my skills, don't you think? I looked for work in 2017-2019, failed, took a sabbatical to deal with the stress and heartache, and then started Doordashing during Covid. Now I'm on another sabbatical because I couldn't deal with the internal conflict that comes from Doordashing after a PhD and 2 years of failure at finding work. If it weren't for my fiance, I don't know where I'd be. My mental health, our relationship, and our long-term financial health have been ruined by this. What's blocking the entrance ramp is the fact that employees are using companies as jobs programs for their friends. Apparently, no one gets a job without finding someone to pull them in the backdoor. My PhD adviser told me this, and a recruiter as well, but I didn't believe them, even though I had already seen evidence for it from the inside of companies. It felt like they were telling me everyone's acting like a rat on a sinking ship. I felt that surely, between my ability and humanity's intrinsic goodness, things would work out. Turns out they were right. I had too much faith in myself and humanity. A portion of data science interviewers are lazy, superstitious, insecure, and downright stupid. They're looking for any half-baked reason to torpedo our applications, when the sum of what we bring would easily and obviously make us excellent hires in the intermediate term. Better hires than their college buddies, relatives, and interns. I've heard so much stupid shit from data science interviewers, like people with opinions they formed from N=1 samples, a guy at google who didn't know the geometric picture of how a perceptron layer works, a guy who told me I don't know what I want in life (don't tell me about what I want), and a guy who downright lied to his manager about an explanation I gave for gradient boosting. Whether a person gets hired has more to do with connections than ability. That's a bad thing, not a good thing, but our society celebrates it. If employers are worried about having to pay too much until we're up to speed, that's still on them, because as far as I've seen they don't want to actually have that conversation. In the early stages, they just want to know how much we're asking. They force it out of us ("It's just for this dumb form but we have to have it before moving on.") Then before we make it to actual negotiations, interviewers reject us (presumably because because we'd be too expensive and they already have someone they want to hire). It's a completely fucked way of going about it.
@nickcarter53432 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about you, but my companies fought on Talent Service. They also sent very cool offers. Maybe you're just unlucky.
@MatW1lson2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you just get a web developer job of some sort like coding PHP and MySQL or go get some Microsoft certifications and try to get a junior .NET developer job… You might have to beg for a while but it’s much safer than risking your life doing shitty rideshare driving/delivery getting paid essentially nothing and risking your actual life from criminals/murderers and the road. You should also consider applying for some type of welfare benefits like SSI and SNAP food stamps too until you get a job. Then you can spend your time more productively studying LogikBot instead of dangerous driving.
@calohtar2 жыл бұрын
If you are actually getting interviews, that seems like a sign that they consider you qualified at least. Maybe your interview skills are letting you down. Do you communicate well with people (especially less technical people)? Do you feel comfortable engaging with a stranger? These soft skills are very important in the recruitment process, even for technical roles. One type of soft skill is "telling your story", presenting all your overall professional and educational trajectory in a way that makes sense to someone else. I also come from a kind of weird background, so this was a common question I got, and knowing how to frame my experiences in a "coherent" way was important. Of course, it was all bullshit (I have a weird background because I in fact didn't know what I want - but that sounds bad). I don't know what your salary expectations were, but maybe it is worth taking something low paying just to get your foot in the door. It can be easier to find a job when you already have a job. And even if you have to take a job that is "beneath you", you can still pursue some interesting projects in your own time to put on your resume or github. I think it's also possible they are prejudiced at your PhD. Like, judging you for not being in academia or finding work, or judging you as being too expensive and overqualified. One potential tactic you might try is to undersell your resume. Don't mention the PhD, don't mention anything too esoteric and academic, just mention the hard skills like SQL, coding ability, data analysis, and tailor the resume for more modest analyst roles. Again, just to get your foot in the door so you can hop to a better company in a few months.
@MatW1lson2 жыл бұрын
@@calohtar I agree. All good advice you gave him. Probably he needs to leave out the PhD when applying to programmer and analyst jobs.
@coreytaylor67382 жыл бұрын
This really isn't realistic. "Please explain this four-and-a-half-year gap in your resume." Umm...... drugs. Best you can do is to give a plausible explanation for why you're leaving the field (e.g. not interested in a professorship) and hope they buy it.
@joshash59442 жыл бұрын
Heh... I'm a SQL and BI veteran/real world data dude/machine learning engineer... and Kaggle competitions expert... SQL, especially SQL with vendor extensions like T-SQL - it's like the bass guitar. The bass is one of the easiest instruments to learn, but it is one of the hardest to *master*. SQL is exactly like that... now the SQL you see in training courses... versus the SQL you see and need to use in the real world of business data.. don't get me started. BI languages like DAX in Power BI and MDX are very very similar... easily to learn, so hard to master. This guy knows exactly... and i mean exactly, what he is talking about. I don't think there's a video like it. But my take is there is more work doing that stuff in the world of analytics and business intelligence, than there is in the world of machine learning. And just because you've done DA100, doesn't mean you are ready to model real Power BI solutions either :)
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh. Much appreciated!!
@StructuredData-cp2yi2 ай бұрын
I am going to take your advice and start as a junior python programmer or a data analyst role which will help me move up the ladder towards a machine learning role. Thank you for not using jarring graphics and dishing out pure facts. Hitting that Subs button now.
@thedatajanitor95372 ай бұрын
You can do it!
@xXDarkxIdealsXx Жыл бұрын
I mean, yes, these job listings all ask for SQL and Python etc.. skill but the also ALL ask for Masters or PhD degrees as well. So i'm confused here. Is it or is it not, reasonably possible to transition from a pure python/sql programming job to a Machine Learning or AI etc.. position? This was my current goal but I'd rather not specialize in Python and SQL if it's impossible without a degree (I'm already past 30 and can't afford to work full time AND earn a master's with a Lung Tumor. I don't want to waste my time, but I'd like to be optimistic. If it was possible with an associate's or perhaps Bachelors i might be able to pull it off, but there's no way I could pull 6 to 8 years of university.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
They ask for a lot but that's not what you need to have. No, I don't know a single machine learning engineer that knows their shit with a masters or PhD. Most of these types are theory kids with no real-world data skills. You won't get any data related job without a degree in something. The fastest path to a career as a MLE is via a data role.
@anvith70984 ай бұрын
HI this video was really helpful and may I know if there are any entry level jobs in data engineering field straight out of college thank you
@thedatajanitor95374 ай бұрын
Nope. I haven't seen any.
@xendergaming35564 ай бұрын
Do you think asvance degrees like phd would help in a machine learning career? Companies like anthropic demand phd in a lot of their roles, is it the rule or the exception?
@thedatajanitor95374 ай бұрын
I don't know of any companies that demand PhDs outside of worthless research departments. I don't know any skilled machine learning engineers working in the real-world with a PhD. So, no... I don't recommend and it won't help you in the real-world.
@user-bw8zn8jc1h9 ай бұрын
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@thedatajanitor95379 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that
@clickysong Жыл бұрын
Hi mike, thank you for always giving real world advice in real world job, I have a question, If someone want to do the programming path as an entry level role for machine learning, what would you recommend to get the first job as a junior programmer because i don't know any programming certification and i don't have IT background
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Whatever junior level programming role you have make sure it includes heavy SQL. Without data knowledge, your programming skills are worthless at most companies. Data is the king in machine learning.
@clickysong Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 ok thanks again for the advice mike
@anuvabkumarrit46694 ай бұрын
This was such a good information, recently i started to do my ms in data science, even though i have 3yrs of experience as a software developer, when i looked for jobs they all require experienced people and i was confused did i choose the right path, or what next should i do to get into the right path
@nicknguyen1679 Жыл бұрын
Great content; I love it. I'm in the second year of my Ph.D. in Compute Science, and my research is in Deep Learning. I wish I had found your video before I started my Ph.D. It's late for me to drop out of school, though. I also have 3 yoe of coding Python for my cloud security job. I know I will need a lot of SQL. Do you have any advice for Ph.D. people (AI research focus) to not waste time and start as a machine learning engineer? Thank you.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Nah. If you really wan to do research then you do need a PhD.
@richardvargas495010 ай бұрын
I'm doing biostatistics and interested statistical genetics research (not doing independent research yet, since I'm still taking classes) It seems like there's a lot of overlap for ML engineers/researchers and bioinformatics. Don't you get to develop practical skills using SQL and Python/R for your (or your supervisor's) research or are you stuck teaching? Maybe try to find a lab that's more applied if you're not getting that experience
@scottdaanoy Жыл бұрын
Although I am graduating with a masters this summer, I now know that it is not an important factor in becoming an MLE. I know the basics of SQL and have experience in Python and ML libraries. Would this still be considered as "starting from scratch" in the real world?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Yep. You are in for a rough ride. I'm not being mean... just honest, degrees in IT don't really matter. Watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gr14ZsV9qeCagaM.html
@Jamess1357 ай бұрын
Hello Sir, love your videos. I am an CS undergraduate senior and did an SWE internship. Quick Question. You mentioned becoming a data analyst and then looking into being an ML engineer. Would a Back-End engineer also work to become an ML engineer in this case? Would the constraint be it needs to use SQL and Python? Your videos are eye-opening. thanks again.
@thedatajanitor95377 ай бұрын
Thanks. Exactly. A back end engineer is only good if your daily work includes working with SQL. You must have SQL skills on your resume. Most of your work will be sourcing data. That's all SQL in most real-world roles.
@Jamess1357 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Thank you for the reply! I'll keep that in mind.
@_jiwi26745 ай бұрын
Hello Mike, I am a Phd graduate myself in ML. Would I also have to start with data analytics role before attempting to get into ML Engineer position? This is the position I am ultimately targeting at. Thank you for the videos btw.
@thedatajanitor95375 ай бұрын
No. As a PhD grad you should be able to land an ML role with your degree. You'll need to learn SQL but that shouldn't be difficult. A PhD at most companies will get you in the door.
@JCGarcia12 жыл бұрын
How proficient would you have to be in python to truly have be successful in ML?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
You need to know a good deal. I work with SQL and Python all day.
@sciencemanguy2 жыл бұрын
I'm partially in that role right now (as an Intern), and let me say that there is basically no other language used in this field outside of Python (small exceptions for R in limited cases and javascript if your company is legacy and fked up as all hell for production). To this day, outside of python, the ONLY other language I've used for ML is C++ just for hardware optimization on GPU stuff.
@mailtofirozahmed Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon sir,I'm 21 years old amd I'm looking into making entry into data analyst I came across ypte video recently about Starting with data analyst and then making a transition into data engineering I have to say I loved it !!! Sir so if i get a strong foundation in sql and power bi or tableau is it sufficient to get an entry level role in data analyst ?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
That's the only option you have. You'll need certifications. For noob they are critically important.
@akshaytonge64167 ай бұрын
Thanks for Awesome video, i am working as Senior Data Analyst (5 years XP) and wants to transition to MLE what would be the good learning course ?
@thedatajanitor95377 ай бұрын
My platform was made for this scenario. If you can get past the SQL interview and have 3-5 years of SQL on your resume then start on Logikbot.com. Start learning Python and then data cleaning. Learning it is not taking the course and watching it like a movie. Learning it is taking notes and understanding damn near everything in the course.
@dev_troy890311 ай бұрын
Hello, very very helpful video sir, but I have a question. when I start with a data analyst role, won't I practice data cleansing well ?. so the only thing I need to do is to learn the modelling part ?
@thedatajanitor953711 ай бұрын
No. Data analyst don't cleanse data. Here, watch this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esydaZp30dendGg.html
@dev_troy890311 ай бұрын
hello mister Mike, hope you're doing well. I want to ask you a question, do you consider 'prompt engineering' as one of the shortcut roles ? @@thedatajanitor9537
@FezzyDays225 Жыл бұрын
I have some quick questions, please. Would you recommend after getting a computer science undergrad, I go for a data analyst role or instead go into a python programming role? What is better? Do you recommend any certifications to compliment the job. Do you think getting a Master's in Machine Learning, only after getting work 2-3 years of experience, is good to make me more valuable? Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you so so much.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Start watching my videos. I've have hundreds of them. All these questions are answered in them. Every single one.
@jacklion109 Жыл бұрын
As a high school student learning python and sql, should I pursue a masters degree in computer science to enter this job?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
You should watch a lot of my video to get an understanding of the real-world. You need a bachelors and that's it. There are no entry level roles in machine learning. You have no chance with any degree at any level to get a job in applied AI. You'll need to start out at a more entry level job like a data analyst. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdJ5fqZ7v6utnas.html
@jacklion109 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 thank you for the reply, I’ll defo check out more of your videos.
@nikkychifire8742 Жыл бұрын
@thedatajanitor9537 I have some SQL (over 10 years), programming (C# over 10 years and Python 1 year), No experience with Power BI and I want a remote job in Machine Learning, and I am outside the United States of America; Do I follow the Logikbot shortcut on Machine learning or the Data Analyst role. Please guide me.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Have you had remote jobs in the US before? If you haven't, getting a remote role is almost impossible. If you can get past a comprehensive SQL interview... you'll need to learn machine learning. LB will take care of the machine learning skills and certs but the remote angle will be really tough.
@christianfoley7441 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm in my last year of undergrad at a top 3 computer science school, trying to determine whether I want to do a masters. I'm specializing in vision, and most companies I have seem posting Computer Vision Engineer (also sometimes called Deep Learning Engineer or Machine Learning Engineer on a vision-focused team) roles require a masters degree + ~2 years of experience. I've also noticed that in the 3 companies I've done internships at, most engineers in these roles had masters degrees or higher. So, it seems to me like continuing to masters is the right choice, since companies seem to prefer this qualification for roles in computer vision. What is your take on this @the data janitor?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
I don't work in that space. Honestly don't know what computer vision or NLP roles require. I don't work with deep learning models. I do know it's only 20% of real-world machine learning so it's insanely competitive. Around 80% of all appleid machine learning is modeling structured data. I've worked at several top tech companies and none of the top MLEs I worked with had a masters. Not one. There were a few faker scientists but no one took them seriously.
@christianfoley7441 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Thanks for your honesty! I've heard the term "faker scientist" used a lot by your audience. Does this just refer to someone with a higher degree that doesn't have the experience & expertise to back it up?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@christianfoley7441 Exactly.
@supahottfire Жыл бұрын
I am doing my PHD in industrial engineering. Machine learning is probably going to be my research area. Do you think it’s going to be more beneficial for me to become a data scientist first and then switch to Machine Learning? I am fairly confident I can get a data scientist postion ( a lot of people in my school have). My end goal is machine learning engineer btw. Any advice.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
You won't get a job in machine learning at any real company even with a PhD. Yes, I'd focus on getting a job as a faker scientist and then focus on learning the real-world skills you'll need for an MLE role.
@supahottfire Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 how many years of experience would I need in a data science role?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Once you're in a research type role it won't take you long to move to machine learning. Six month or so.
@supahottfire Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 By research role , do you mean anything in Data Science? So I can do a data science role for a year or so and then transition?? BTW your content is amazing. You're a scary dude but atleast you keep it real. I subscribed to your content.
@machinelearning35182 жыл бұрын
i am not able to pay for logikbot can u provide razorpay or some other payment options for indians
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
I can do Paypal.
@machinelearning35182 жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 okay how to proceed ?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
@@machinelearning3518 Sorry. Just email at mw2398@hotmail.com
@boukraailyesali9131 Жыл бұрын
is there any entry level Data Engineering (DE) jobs?, after about a month I will graduate with a master's degree in Artificial intelligence and Data Science, I saw some articles and videos about DE and it seems like a cool job where your work is impactful and helps companies to grow! is DE a good choice?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Nope. A data engineering role is as hard to attain as a machine learning engineer role. You won't get any DE role without 3-5 years of hands on experience. I'm not trying to be mean but you're in for a long road ahead. A masters is worthless in the real-world these days.
@boukraailyesali9131 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@yadnyeshgosavi75362 жыл бұрын
I am QA engineer from 2 and half year.. i have knowledge about SQL then JAVA selenium automation tool .. currently learning ML - thrue python .. i can get entry into ML ? Can i eligible for little short cut ? Please ans
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Yep. You'll need to learn machine learning. You'll also need to polish those SQL and Python skills. If you think you can get by the Python and SQL interview questions now, start focusing on learning the ML process. If you aren't sure you can get past the Python here's a free course for you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNVxgLx-zd3Go3U.html
@yadnyeshgosavi75362 жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 thank you so much it's means a lot ..
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
@@yadnyeshgosavi7536 Sure. Thank you for watching
@RobertRoman11 ай бұрын
One question, I have the python professional certification, tableau data analyst certification, and excel associate certification. Where do you think I'd fit within my job search. I have no job experience and I really want to be a machine learning engineer. I do have machine learning skills but no certification yet
@thedatajanitor953711 ай бұрын
These are all worthless. All certificates are. Here you go. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrefZpui28jcqWQ.html
@sabinoramirez26002 жыл бұрын
This is valuable knowledge! I was offered a free research based masters on top of a monthly stipend to do healthcare imaging segmentation work. I’m 25 and just graduated but I currently do web development. In your opinion can i do both as i get my masters or will the deep learning work require too much time?
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
Yep. You won't have a lot of free time but you can do both. It will pay off down the road but my suck for the next few years.
@sabinoramirez26002 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your 2 cents. Not a lot of people around me who i can talk to about this stuff
@thedatajanitor95372 жыл бұрын
@@sabinoramirez2600 Sure. Thanks for watching.
@djkuralt Жыл бұрын
Yesterday, I got laid off from my first-ever job as a machine learning engineer. I was there for all of 8 months. I was the only person at the company with the job title of machine learning engineer. From my very limited experience, much of what you say rings true to me. I graduated last year with a master's degree in data science after having having worked the first 50 years of my life in other fields. I began the degree program with zero experience in Python or SQL, and accepted a lower salary as a machine learning engineer because of my relative lack of experience. I struggled mightily, and will take to heart your suggestions as I look for my next job. I don't regret getting my degree and I don't regret my first machine learning job. I love learning stuff and I'll be checking out what you offer.
@ivanmontenegro7511 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m months away of finishing high school, I’m 17, I consider myself pretty decent at math and statistics, I’ve been into coding for a few months (mainly Python), and by now I think I’ve decided to be an ML engineer. Thing is, due to personal reasons I’ll be forced to go to college, I’ll have the opportunity to choose between CS, CE, or SE, should I just go and choose SE since I think that it would be the least time consuming for me? (Considering that I’ll learn the vast majority of ML knowledge out of college). Thanks :)
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
LMAO. No, you won't learn the vast of your knowledge about ML in college. College is all theory. Here you go. The myth of academia in IT. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y6d0ZrZnuamWno0.html
@ivanmontenegro7511 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 I meant to say that I was going to learn the vast majority of ML knowledge OUTSIDE of college, but thanks anyways, I’ll consider getting your courses once I think I’m ready 🙏
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
You'll do fine. You're watching my videos. You need a degree in something so it might as well be ML or stats.
@overlord7096 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I am working as PowerBI developer in a MNC from last 2 years and I recently got opportunity to move to a data engineering project in same company. Should I take it ? My main motto is salary and I am ready to work hard.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Where do you want to end up? If you want to end up in data engineer or machine learning then hell yes. If you're a good PowerBi dev there are quite a few jobs out there paying really good money. Look for contractors opportunities on indeed.com and only look at one where the hourly rate is close to 80-100/hr.
@overlord7096 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 i have previously worked on informatica as ETL developer but PowerBI interests me bcz i can see final end product with lot of analytical fun and looks easy to me than data engineering. But i am skeptical that PowerBI is easy tool and anyone can master in just few months. Whereas data engg is highly backend and more technical and need coding experience. What's your thoughts?
@overlord7096 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 hey I am expecting your reply.
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@overlord7096 Hey. I don't work for you.
@overlord7096 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 it's alright. But that was mean.
@cory99998 Жыл бұрын
I'm mostly interested in creative challenges like developing new tools that serve practical purposes like what you see on channels like Two Minute Papers. Do you know how people get into those sorts of jobs? I like to think that if I have lots of personal projects showing my problem solving ability and practical creativity towards developing new technologies that I could get a job somewhere, but I have a feeling that it doesn't work like that. I do this for fun and am not seriously looking for a career change, but I was wondering if you knew much about this? Nividia and google do quite a bit of ML technology development and that's what I'm most interested in. How did those people get their jobs, and are the jobs as glamorous as they seem? Thanks
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly sure what you are asking. Who writes machine learning models from scratch? Hardcore programmers at Google, Microsoft... etc. That's about it. Here's a course I have on authoring models from scratch. Again, this is brutally difficult. It requires sold math skills and more importantly, really hardcore programing skills most do not have. www.logikbot.com/courses/building-machine-learning-algorithms-in-python So, I think I answered your question. The only people authoring the top machine learning models like Tensorflow or Keras work in big tech. They are elite C and Python programmers. That's about it. It's brutally hard to get these roles.
@cory99998 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 thanks!
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@cory99998 Sure.
@MrPrebuttal9 ай бұрын
I do not have a degree, but I believe I can easily learn any tech role. If I got the SQL, PowerBI and Tableu certa you mentioned. Will I immediately be rejected simply because I have no degree. I live in London
@thedatajanitor95379 ай бұрын
Yes. In the US and I'm guessing Europe a bachelors has become mandatory.
@MrPrebuttal9 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 "less than 20% of people it IT around the world have comp sci degrees" according to your statement this means that the other 80% have a STEM degree, unrelated degree or no degree. This doesn't make any sense
@thedatajanitor95379 ай бұрын
@@MrPrebuttal What doesn't make any sense to you? What don't you understand? Yes, I'm saying 80% (much more actually) don't not have comp sci degrees and work in IT. I'm saying 80% of all the people in IT DO NOT have related degrees.
@MrPrebuttal9 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 So 80% of candidates they hire have an unrelated degree, but the important thing is to have a degree. This is irrational.
@MrPrebuttal9 ай бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 This is why these shit companies do not innovate because you hire the lowest common denominators who are stupid enough to go to university and filter out more capable self taught candidates at the first stage of HR. By choosing an idiot who decided to get a degree in geography rather than somebody much more capable who is self taught.
@artistzezo2 жыл бұрын
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@shermin2o9 Жыл бұрын
I am a business analyst with over 7 years experience. I am very proficient with SQL, Python, data visualization tools, etc. I even taught myself machine learning and applied that at my current job (I created and validated an accurate predictive model and implemented in an application). Still can't get a data analyst job. Much less a data scientist or machine learning job. I have been searching for a while. Is it just the job market?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
It's you. Sorry Justin. There are tons of jobs out there. Are you not getting interviews are not getting past them? You'll need to focus on the data analyst role at first. It's in line with what you are doing and you're experience as a BA will carry weight? What tool are you accomplished with? PowerBI, Tableau or Looker? What certifications do you have? NOT completion certificates!!
@shermin2o9 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 I appreciate the response! In the past 1000 applications I have had three interviews (not counting recruiter screens) and felt they went great (one of them went the entire process). The majority of them are data analyst roles. My resume has been refined and tailored for most (followed guides, had it reviewed, etc). As a BA I am the lead data analyst and have done a lot of work with data using Excel, SQL, Power BI, and Python. I have a bachelors in Mathematics, minor in Computer Science, no other certifications (I do not believe they help get an interview but I am not opposed to getting one).
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
@@shermin2o9 That's very strange. Everything sounds in order. Certifications are a big deal at every company I've worked for. At Uber, we only interviewed those with top certs. I'd suggest the PowerBI cert. Put it at the top of your resume. Are you applying for remote roles also?
@shermin2o9 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 I will definitely look into the certifications, thanks for that insight. And yes I am applying for remote roles only. Appreciate the advice!
@Staticshock-rd8lv Жыл бұрын
@@shermin2o9 yo this is scaring me, a ba in math and 7 years experience as a data analyst O:? so then mike the datajanitors advice is useless then? or have you been able to get a job since this reply? was it the powerbi cert?
@MrYourDry Жыл бұрын
To be honest. Machine Learning feels like over hyped garbage algorithms. In bigger countries its useful but in smaller countries like NZ it is such a waste of time. Our data isn't even clean enough to make any of the cool data shit work well. 😒 It's embarrassing.
@darrenching6125 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I know this comment is abit late but right now Im going to take a masters in Data Sc at Monash Australia so that I will be able to migrate there quicky, but I understand what you said about the skills in masters to become a machine learning engineer is hard, so would you recommend me to take an external SQL courses on top of my masters so that when I graduate I can start immediately with knowledge in SQL?
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
Yes Darren. You should be learning SQL and Python and applied machine learning right now. A job in applied machine learning without SQL on your resume these days is almost impossible.
@darrenching6125 Жыл бұрын
@@thedatajanitor9537 Alright, will do! Currently learning python again after attending a comp sci fundamental course in University, but I will make sure I add SQL asap! Thanks for the response!
@sofianelaridi9182 Жыл бұрын
only truth in this video, a PhD won't cut it in the real world nobody cares
@thedatajanitor9537 Жыл бұрын
They don't. I've worked with tons of them. They are moved to the business side of the house in three months or less. Here's a good one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLWXkpOAy7OsmIk.html
@sinan_islam4 ай бұрын
Please, do not be over enthusiastic. The complexity in this career and how messy are the software, will make you quit at some point.