Top 10 Cooperative Games

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Tom Vasel, Zee Garcia, and Mike DiLisio take a look at their top 10 cooperative games, game which involve putting aside your petty differences and squabbling to take down a common enemy, the game itself.
Intro - 00:00
Mike 10 - 07:33
Zee 10 - 10:11
Tom 10 - 12:01
Mike 9 - 14:12
Zee 9 - 16:49
Tom 9 - 18:20
Mike 8 - 22:00
Zee 8 - 25:03
Tom 8 - 27:41
Mike 7 - 30:33
Zee 7 - 33:05
Tom 7 - 35:01
Mike 6 - 38:58
Zee 6 - 40:40
Tom 6 - 42:44
Mike 5 - 44:38
Zee 5 - 48:55
Tom 5 - 51:45
Mike 4 - 55:14
Zee 4 - 58:55
Tom 4 - 1:01:30
Mike 3 - 1:06:25
Zee 3 - 1:09:14
Tom 3 - 1:11:50
Mike 2 - 1:15:20
Zee 2 - 1:18:46
Tom 2 - 1:22:06
Mike 1 - 1:24:43
Zee 1 - 1:27:34
Tom1 - 1:30:06
People's Choice 1:32:17
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@marks6928 Жыл бұрын

These three together: greatest of all time.

@Straddllw Жыл бұрын

I thought Sam Healy made a surprise appearance when I saw your comment.

@henrikwakman7776 Жыл бұрын

Hope Sam is ok

@tah27891 Жыл бұрын

Unpopular opinion id rather Mike than Sam

@henrikwakman7776 Жыл бұрын

@@tah27891 Mike is teriffic. Just hope Sam is okay. His job at Mythic ended and he had some health issues, but he might well be doing great by now:)

@arnold2011 Жыл бұрын

Sad and good to hear about Sam.

@CharlieWellsPlus Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a top 10 list from the DT crew: "Top 10 ways we've changed as gamers"

@davidboeger6766 Жыл бұрын

This is such an awesome idea.

@danacoleman4007 Жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@patrickperl8741 Жыл бұрын

Love these top 10s by you three! Can't wait for new ones.

@googletubesucks Жыл бұрын

Have you guys ever done "Top 10 House Rules"? Like, house rules you have used in certain games that greatly improve them?

@RynoKenny Жыл бұрын

Think they did a "top 10 ignored rules" or something like that

@sebasculin3739 Жыл бұрын

Top Ten Games that need one change included some House rules

@robertcrist124 Жыл бұрын

The could do it again with all the news games out now. Surely there is a new list there.

@Drew_D Жыл бұрын

Hey, I love the House Rules idea!

@digocr Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@woehrle17 Жыл бұрын

Coops are my favorite, I hope you guys update this list yearly. Always so many good new coops coming out.

@ieatstheinternet Жыл бұрын

Mike's never won Ghost Stories?! I think he should do a Ghost Stories marathon where hes not allowed to stop playing until he finally wins. The other cast members would rotate in and out.

@danacoleman4007 Жыл бұрын

Great idea!!!!

@XHuntinatorX Жыл бұрын

Sweet!!! Do it!

@nickhayes1626 Жыл бұрын

I agree with this! Do it Mike!

@bha1959 Жыл бұрын

They're all so witty and have such great chemistry. What an absolute pleasure to watch.

@jameskirk4692 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I always love your top 10 videos like this.

@whitleypedia Жыл бұрын

great video! Thanks for all you guys do!

@tbahr123 Жыл бұрын

I had little interest in spirit island because of the weight, but I finally tried it with my cousin in the summer and I was blown away. The growth of your own spirit and getting new powers feels like a totally unique game in itself and nothing like any other coop I’ve played. Amazing game!

@89taklung Жыл бұрын

I think mechanic wise, my fav 2 player game ever. I like story driven games but often mostly for the story XD

@sondrehirth Жыл бұрын

Zee Garcia! Finally I could get my hands on Sub Terra over here in Norway. You have triggered my interest for this game for quite some time. I'm looking forward to give it a spin. Keep up the good work!

@IronSalamander8 Жыл бұрын

Only played Spirit Island once but really liked it. You guys just got my number one co-op in recently, but Keep the Heroes Out is so much fun, and been teaching it when I can. Got a 4 player and 2 player games in today!

@freeheeler00 Ай бұрын

Revisiting this video a year later. I love how rewatchable these Top 10 lists actually are from year to year. And I love these dudes! I hope to make to a convention or retreat some day soon.

@woyaodapian Жыл бұрын

Really really love this type of content.

@ScottBlenkhorne Жыл бұрын

One game I find often not brought up but has been a favourite cooperative for me is Mechs vs Minions. Such a unique experience and so fun stomping on hordes of minions.

@KristoVaher Жыл бұрын

The reason why some (including me) prefer Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective is because it is simply written so much better. Chronicles of Crime plays so that you click buttons and everybody looks at the screen. Consulting Detective works so that one of the players - in turn - reads the mini-chapters to other players. It feels more personal having the newspaper and the map and the book of addresses. While it is true that Chronicles of Crime has "more stuff", as you can ask about all the clues and get clue specific answers, what makes Consulting Detective a better detective game is because the quality of writing and the amount of clues that can be caught between the lines. Mind you, my group has played "all of them", all Chronicles of Crimes, all Detectives, all Consulting Detectives and City of Angels. And we much prever City of Angels and Consulting Detective games because they feel more sandbox and they feel more personal - playing with your friends rather than doing a pretty much choose your adventure with a mystery twist.

@nathalie-christianbernier-4645 Жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! Gotta play more of that Spirit Island. Branch and Claws' on the way.

@dmartel243 Жыл бұрын

The Sub Terra tiles have black light reactive printing on them. We bought 2 small standing black lights, close all the lights and play Sub Terra. So much more thematic - especially that the black lights only illuminate about 1 foot diameter at a time.

@bobsiddoway Жыл бұрын

Great list, dudes!

@annasandell Жыл бұрын

Could you please do a list of games to play with parents? Or how about a list of top ten games to play with those who are easily overwhelmed and intimidated by anything beyond regular dice or cards?

@jdkenada Жыл бұрын

Toss QWIRKLE out there. I've had luck with that when it comes to people you've described.

@kylereblitz2856 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like gateway games.

@annasandell Жыл бұрын

@@kylereblitz2856 Well, yes, but for this specific group of people.

@annasandell Жыл бұрын

@@jdkenada I've never played it but thank you for the tip. ☺️

@PaulRamen Жыл бұрын

The only one I have that everyone can enjoy is Just One :)

@AlBundy4td Жыл бұрын

I heard Final Fantasy Tactics and insta bought Adventure Tactics 2E - looking forward to it :) Thanks for the great work.

@Pookiebear Жыл бұрын

Excited to watch this one :)

@jakebruner2624 Жыл бұрын

Love Final Fantasy Tactics, and now hearing about Adventure Tactics has me excited.

@Necreon021 Жыл бұрын

Everything Mike said about Marvel United (top3) also applies to The Last Bastion from Antoine Bauza, I'd highly recommend it and I'm shocked to see how ignored it is on every toplist. That game too is a marvel, and I love that you guys included it! I hope the Ghost Stories expansions will eventually find their way to the Last Bastion.

@RenbroNL Жыл бұрын

1:30:55 You are literally describing one the main reasons why Spirit Island is so great. Sprits combination + adversary/ scenario = fresh experience.

@MegaIndecisive Жыл бұрын

I love Thunderbirds. My wife asked me to add it to our 25x5 for next year when I introduced it to her a few days ago. :)

@dio1122able Жыл бұрын

Surprised Sleeping Gods didn't make it anywhere. On my Top 5!

@ianoble Жыл бұрын

Knew Aeon's End wasn't going to make their list, but it's high on mine.

@camipco Жыл бұрын

Great insight into how fantastic a game Arkham Horror LCG is: Tom says "you died" meaning lost the game, Zee corrects him - Ashcan Pete was drifting endlessly lost through time and space with his loyal doggo. That game captures the mood. The long term characters really works great with Cthulu, because you see them go mad, see them keep trying to stay ahead of their past, feel the pain when a character that's spent months investigating a mystery gets ate by a weird thing from the sewers with many tentacles.

@waltlock8805 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Eldritch Horror has fallen off so much with these guys. It's a very different game to Arkham. I think it still holds up very well (one of my all-time favs).

@TiagoRamosVideos Жыл бұрын

Awesome! 👌🙏

@jaredbeiswenger3766 Жыл бұрын

Props to Zee for the Rising 5 recommendation long ago. Many fun hours of family fun with my little kids. Love how my 4 year old and I can both enjoy it.

@sergiojimenez9986 Жыл бұрын

Which games?

@Bodyknock Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite cooperative games that's not mentioned here is Carnival Zombie which I recall Tom also liked. It's got such a great sense of masses of enemies coming out, you think "how are we going to beat them", and then your characters are so awesome they plow through them with just enough of an edge to make it to the next wave. (Plus it has that goofy sounding but pretty slick in practice gimmick of dropping dead zombie cubes onto a pile and the ones that fall off come back. It's almost like a mini-cooperative Jenga in the game! 😄)

@diegocortijo2473 9 ай бұрын

Dead of Winter and Saboteur are coop games with traitors. Nice video!

@russellscott1151 Жыл бұрын

Great list. My partner and I only play coop games to avoid falling out when we loose :) and the ones we’ve played are jaws of the lion, Gloomhaven, spirit island and pandemic so same as people’s choice in same order. Jaws of the lion was great but We’ve given up on Gloomhaven as we got bored of it as it felt you were just killing things each time with no puzzle side to it. We’d love to find another great coop for 2 with a good puzzle side to it but nothing’s has jumped out yet from the crowd.

@clanechelon Жыл бұрын

When we first join the boardgame hobby (after getting hooked by Catan) we thought that coop games would be much better as we were getting a bit too competitive with Catan. Turns out that our biggest problem with coop games is that we tend to over plan each heroes action that it no longer feels like we, as players, are playing... We became an hive mind ! We just started Spirit Island and we like it a lot as it is just plain IMPOSSIBLE to plan every actions, unless you wish to discuss each round for hours. It's rather I can deal with these regions, what can you do? Massive darkness is fun at 2 players, but it is SUPER easy. playing at a higher count felt boring as there's just nothing to do after the first 2 players have played. Perhaps we should try to split into 2 groups of 2, but that did not seem appropriate for the scenarios we played. Great 2 player tho.

@kaindeer6910 Жыл бұрын

I can't believe I'm saying this. Mike, I like the youthful energy you bring to that table

@Drew_D Жыл бұрын

Glad to see Forbidden Desert at the end. I have the app version and I really enjoy it.

@mgk2020 28 күн бұрын

Tom laughs at people saying there's too much Marvel, but he reacted exactly the same way to zombies back when that was being used as a theme in exactly the same way.

@jakermaker9697 Жыл бұрын

Great list guys. Still got Cthulhu Death May Die to get to the table to try out but every other game in the lists are stellar choices 😊

@bin-du Жыл бұрын

“Juice is worth the squeeze” is from the game brain podcast! They used it first in a riff about heavy board games and if it was worth the effort to play a particular one

@yourebelscum9662 Жыл бұрын

Rescuing Robinhood was an oversight. Pure Co-op. Fun at all ages

@isotope3223 Жыл бұрын

So loved this list in fact made me go out and late pledge Death May Die, then buy the loop and late pledge Return to Dark tower. Plus I’m on the hunt for Last Bastion and Thunderbirds.

@Teachermook Жыл бұрын

1:18:38 YES! ALL THE YES! ZEE YOU ARE SO RIGHT THIS GAME IS AMAZING!!! Gushing aside I knew this one had to make it because it is a game from fantasy flight that you get the core box, pick what you want, and just go at it. The rules are not too difficult, it sales well for the player amounts, and it is highly customizable both for heroes and villian scenarios. Great pick man.

@ThymeKeeper Жыл бұрын

I cannot wait to see the Dice Tower Vagrantsong artwork :).

@griffglowen5555 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with Zee about the fun of tile exploration like Sub Terra. Wish there was more options with that mechanism

@TheRealWookieman Жыл бұрын

Do A Loop 😝. Loves Zee & Mike Interactions

@ThymeKeeper Жыл бұрын

The popcorn clip needs to be declared eligible for the 2023 highlight show :D.

@Spudkitty513 Жыл бұрын

I come for the topic, I stay for the entertaining comradery ... Tom, Zee, and Mike just make magic, don't they?

@dangerousbeans2907 Жыл бұрын

I grew up with Marvel comics. Now, nothing turns me off more than seeing Marvel in a title. Movie, board game …anything. Same goes with Star Wars. Honestly Disney and over saturation has destroyed so much I used to love. 8(

@danacoleman4007 Жыл бұрын

Disney is one of the shittiest companies to ever have existed

@Moviefan-s8f Жыл бұрын

Tom looks like he's ready for summer 😂

@GamesOffTheShelf Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a close up of all your painted Marvel United minis!

@garygrant6987 Жыл бұрын

The loop is damn good.

@fatstingray Жыл бұрын

If you follow the solo rules for Ghost Stories, it’s the easiest way to win (though not really the most fun). It’s possible to use multiple character abilities in one turn using neutral player tokens. Winning on hell difficulty is doable playing solo.

@coasterfreakrob Жыл бұрын

One co-op I love that I don't seem to see mentioned much anywhere is Dead Men Tell No Tales. Even without the Kraken expansion there's plenty going on, and with the Kraken involved, I think it's just as cinematic as Death May Die, especially when things start exploding.

@koalabrownie Жыл бұрын

Zee has it in his top 100 quite often. Not sure it'll still make the list this year

@scoop0122 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendations Guys

@Bleuchz Жыл бұрын

I actually find I enjoy teaching The Crew perhaps more than any game I've ever taught. Even with a big skill diversity its a challenge in teaching someone the basics of trick taking with the limited communication and watching things click.

@saiyanroyalty229 Жыл бұрын

That is why I think Planet 9 And Deep Sea are 2 different games. The original is perfect to teach trick taking but Deep Sea is great if you already understand The Crew

@koppfrosch7439 Жыл бұрын

the question about your favored game cant be answered without the circumstances its been played in. i have several favored games and several lists of favored games. all depends on the number of people involved, the mood im in, the time of day/week, the amount of time to play it, the time it needs to be set up, etc... and the number of games i like still grows every day. sometimes i even like a game i normally hate because i play it with a person i like and that person loves the game. i really like to watch you talking about games and sometimes i found new games you talked about and love them too.

@ralphanderson2603 Жыл бұрын

TNX - finally a sumarry at the end - glad you selected Horrified - a favorite of mine and not a marathon game

@MKhoshahang Жыл бұрын

How Sleeping gods was not making to any of the lists?! It was one constant title in any awards nomination lists, dice tower included, especially in the coop category. Narrative, mechanics, replayability, graphics and... were great. It is in my top 3 of all games.

@MadManMatrix 9 ай бұрын

My guess is purely because it’s not a game you can play a lot as it takes like a day to play lol.

@ericdavis8653 Жыл бұрын

I want to hear Tom compare Adventure Tactics with Gloomhaven - what kind of person would you recommend one vs the other? How is the experience similar/different?

@ProfArmitage218 Жыл бұрын

I just received my copy of the Skyrim Adventure Game that I backed last year, but I haven't had a chance to play it yet. It looks promising.

@koalabrownie Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Pax Pamir for the catchupalooza. Mike said he'd teach you guys that game 2 years ago

@anttmann6123 Жыл бұрын

Will you guys please do another best for 3 players games. I think its been a while since you've done one.

@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын

Three Kingdoms Redux - Best 3-player game. No other list is needed. :D

@debbielowe9467 Жыл бұрын

Zee - I bought Subterra after hearing you talk about it. It might be my most played game.

@CampCounselerSteve 6 ай бұрын

New Sam is killing it with his takes.

@Vicioussama Жыл бұрын

Arkham Horror LCG is still one of my favorite for sure, but it can be a lot, for sure. FFT is definitely the best FF, Tom, I need to try that Adventure Tactics if it some how made you think of FFT :O also, I think my favorite cooperative might be the Pandemic Legacy games. Love em. Not sure though... hard to say. Also love Captain is Dead a lot.

@beakerkell Жыл бұрын

So what you're saying Mike, is that I need to get more Death May Die in the season 3 late pledge? I'm so tempted to pick up the unspeakable box.

@13tredekka Жыл бұрын

What's the game on the wall, below Switch & Signal, in the red box over Tom's left shoulder?

@robertthurman9866 Жыл бұрын

Zee was playing Ashcan Pete and his dog Duke. I'm just starting Scarlet Keys this week! Keep the faith Zee!

@mrskwid1 Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.

@CJM3407 Жыл бұрын

Big Issue we had with Rising 5. Is the app doesn't track well. It messed up early and I realized that my deduction had to be true, but it failed. I looked back at history and saw it was reading the colors incorrectly. Once realized this, we manually enter the colors because their barcode + color scan doesn't work.

@SuryaKresnanda Жыл бұрын

I think Mike is the best successor of Sam. Not better or less, just different, and still great 🤩

@luiscarlosqg Жыл бұрын

He is much better, IMHO.

@XHuntinatorX Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@joshfoss7407 Жыл бұрын

One of the more underappreciated games out at the moment in my book is Thunderstone Quest. It's easily a top 3 game for the GF and I and the flexibility that it can be played vs, co-op, solo ,epic mode plus other variants means it's unlikely to ever leave our collection. There are more involved deck builders out there, but we just find it really fun. I know C:DMD is all the CMON hotness but there's just something about Cthulu as a theme that's so offputting to me. I do love Zombicide Black Plague though. Some day I hope they offered more advanced mechanisms in the Zombicide Universe, like they do for C:DMD.

@doggosplosion Жыл бұрын

Zee: (Concerning his #2 pick) "What it does it does really cleanly" ... Laughs in Sabertooth.

@petergross7235 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Doom version of pandemic I would buy. Using the fantastic four to stop his robots from spreading would be amazing! I wish the world of warcraft version was better, the designers really did a huge disservice to the final boss in that final fight. Might have to try Iberia. Great lists gentlemen.

@jacksonmillard7598 Жыл бұрын

Love cooperative games and marvel united is one of my favorites right now

@nerdyjawsh Жыл бұрын

Paleo is my favorite co-op board game.

@Alluvian567 3 ай бұрын

Wow, never beat ghost stories. It is surely a hard game. I remember so well the fist day we played it. The very first edition of the rules was more confusing or at least WE had a lot of confusion between how rounds and turns worked (one player move or once around the table) and we got it wrong 3 times in ways that made the game MUCH harder. On the fourth try (first three were quick defeats) we finally played it right and won. It felt great. It was like that winnie the pooh episode where tigger puts weights in their shoes. Anyway, for a long time it was played a lot at our yearly boardgame friend gathering and we would give the game victory buttons when it would win. It has definitely amassed quite a lot of victories, but I would say we would win about 30 percent of the time.

@jazzeejax5816 Жыл бұрын

so long since I watched one of these... used to watch them constantly

@iansutton7416 Жыл бұрын

Don't worry Mike, Thunderbirds is well-regarded. For me, it's the best iteration of the Pandemic 'engine', and the need to consider players on following turns makes it more interesting... albeit if players have someone with an alpha gamer attitude, then that would be problematic. My biggest gripe, is the peril of IP based games, as Modiphius lost the licence too quickly (I think it had a single print run at retail), and that means some of the expansions fell into fantasy pricing on the secondary market, and it's a shame that it limited the reach of what I think is a superb game. p.s. for solo I recall them recommending playing 3 handed solo, for the very reasons you suggested pure solo is too difficult.

@JayChampagne Жыл бұрын

My favorite co-op is Aeon's End by a mile. Highly recommend.

@sorarivers8667 Жыл бұрын

A game I DEEPLY recommend is The Shipwreck Arcana. Absolutely fantastic co-op hidden information game.

@brettpetersen1671 Жыл бұрын

Unsettled is the game that made me realize the coop could be awesome.

@Morcarag Жыл бұрын

It’s a really good one. Does take the right group of course, but don’t they all?

@ashrael37 Жыл бұрын

Sub Terra is a great game. The sequel is showing up in stores, so hopefully it will reach backers soon. Zee and I agree a lot on games, and I was very excited to get the beautiful Atlantis Rising. However, it really fell flat for me. It was just too long and samey; if it had been 30 minutes shorter it may have stayed in my collection. Just finished sleeving all of my Marvel United last night....

@timbain2762 Жыл бұрын

From the intro, I'm imagining Zee playing Betrayal at the House on the Hill, in everyone's face about being the traitor right from the beginning, before anyone finds out who the traitor is!

@JTizza Жыл бұрын

I just picked up "Mantis Falls" recently and eager to try it out. Sometimes plays out as a secret co-op; does anyone have any thoughts on the game?

@zvnetzley9209 Жыл бұрын

Love Mantis Falls, but by default we end up destroying one another ad the tension of the game convinces us that the other person is an assassin. Awesome game, but not one I would actually say is co-op.

@danacoleman4007 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Table.Fables Жыл бұрын

Great lists; but where’s Burgle Bros? That classic needs some love

@89taklung Жыл бұрын

This or the second part, which is also lots of fun

@unrealed Жыл бұрын

You should do a catchupalooza at each of the Spectaculars

@dancondonjones Жыл бұрын

But but but…AEON’S END!!!! That’s why we needed Chris and Wendy on this video. My votes were: 1 Aeon’s End 2 Bandido 3 Legendary Encounters: Alien 4 So Clover 5 The Crew 6 Just One 7 The Mind 8 Magic Maze 9 Forbidden Desert 10 Micromacro

@aorakis5795 Жыл бұрын

Really funny to see flipships on the wall instead of being a top 10 choice Flipships is one of my absolute favorite Co_oP game ever ! It's just so much fun of a game ! Dexerity ? sure, but all the gamers i made discover that game has purchased it a few days later to add them to their collection ! It simply is a must coop have imho ! And still.. No Aeon's end... (nor Astro Knights...) On wich planet are you guys living ? :D

@robevert7931 6 ай бұрын

What happened to Time Stories? I thought it was for a while at the top of your Co-op list.

@HalloikbenJim Жыл бұрын

i dont understand why tom hates spirit island

@tylerskinner9808 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know what has changed for Zee with regardless too Cthulhu DMD. He originally gave it a 7 and now appears to love it. @The Dice Tower, can you ask Zee to comment?

@steelman774 Жыл бұрын

So… is Marvel United (I haven’t played it) a co-op game with a level similar to King of Tokyo is for competitive games? I can pull KoT off the shelf, set the board and energy tokens out, the upgrades deck out (flip over 3 cards), hand out a few player boards/standees, and then start chucking dice. That is FUN that gets to the table. KoT balances the meanness of the “take that” mechanic but my wife doesn’t lean into competitive games as much as co-op.

@MrRocketman88 Жыл бұрын

I own all of Zombiecide original and Eldritch Horror plus expansions so far these are the only 2 co op games I own.

@realjeremybrooks Жыл бұрын

Following the live chat, several days later, it's tough to discern which are serious comments and which ones are tongue-in-cheek. The Marvel fatigue may affect many fans of the Dice Tower, but these three are still on board with a lot of Marvel's board game presence. Tom, Zee, and Mike certainly don't need me to defend their choices, but I feel compelled to mention that this (and all other) Top 10 lists are THEIR Top 10 lists. All the grumbling (real or fabricated for the lulz) appears to overlook this.

@steelman774 Жыл бұрын

“Los Excelsior!!” 😂🤣😂

@steveantonette9682 Жыл бұрын

I would pick 1 My Dungeon crawler of choice, the new TMNT City Fall and Change is Constant 2 Flashpoint is always awesome 3 wrath of the lich king pandemic game 4 marvel champions 5 my group loves the ghostbusters blackout game too. Easy to set up fun, thematic and 30 mins