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Top 10 Generic Extra Deck Bosses

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TheDuelLogs

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Күн бұрын

Yu-Gi-Oh is known for its flashy combos and powerful anime boss monsters. However, the best bosses in the card game usually aren’t the big ticket names shouted in the anime, but instead are often the best cards of lesser known archetypes that are better utilized by more consistent decks. The Extra Deck boss monsters we’ll be covering today are the best of the best, combining fantastic effects with generic summoning requirements, allowing them to comfortably slot into decks prepared for competitive play.
Script by DylanTT
Edited by Lily
├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10. Borrelsword Dragon: (0:26)
9. Time Thief Redoer: (2:43)
8. Zoodiac Drident: (4:33)
7. Number F0: Utopic Draco Future: (6:19)
6. Borreload Savage Dragon: (8:34)
5. Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess: (9:57)
4. Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax: (11:47)
3. Divine Arsenal AA-ZEUS: (13:33)
2. Accesscode Talker: (15:34)
1. Baronne de Fleur: (19:19)
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@RoryWilliamson
@RoryWilliamson Жыл бұрын
It still blows my mind every day that Konami printed zeus and just said slap that thing on any xyz
@nair0p
@nair0p Жыл бұрын
You know these monsters mean serious business when they all have summon animations in Master Duel
@johangonzalez4894
@johangonzalez4894 Жыл бұрын
I really like that Redoer's effects tie in to Time Thief's theme. The first effect is literally stealing/retrieving an object from your opponent. As for each part of the second effect: - Banishing himself alludes to Redoer escaping the scene when being chased (say, by an S-Force); - Drawing a card alludes to Fast Forwarding time to your "next turn"; - Finally, placing a card on top of the deck alludes to Rewinding time to before your opponent drew it.
@tergel.e9
@tergel.e9 Жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense!
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын
Nice lore reference. (S-Force.)
@drewbabe
@drewbabe Жыл бұрын
if we're going based on how much the monsters' effects tie in to their archetype's lore, he's absolutely a banger, right up there with Avramax.
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Жыл бұрын
Orrafist's effect will destroy him on spot though, we haven't seen any artwork from him after his confrontation with orrafist.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@r3zaful Unfortunate.
@kingscourge6031
@kingscourge6031 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about barrone is that it is wind attribute meaning the windwitch snow bell and freeze bell can give it battle and card destuction. The more you know.😅😅
@codename1176
@codename1176 Жыл бұрын
Yesp
@notaheretic6675
@notaheretic6675 4 ай бұрын
Windwitch gotta be my favorite clear wing package.
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
I think Chaos Angel deserves an honorable mention. Its generically splashable in a lot of decks, easy to summon, has great stats, pretty decent effects depending on its synchro materials, and it can banish a card any time it's special summoned not just synchro summoned.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Tbf there’s a lot of good generic boss monsters also he doesn’t really do honourable mentions
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 I know that's why we talk about them in the comments :)
@qty1315
@qty1315 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but, it does have to compete with multiple generic synchros that give negates. It's why synchros have the reputation they have, because in a synchro deck you can set up a full field of negates so that your opponent can't even do anything. Plus, a bunch of other synchro cards that have those negate effects also have 'Once per turn you can banish/destroy one card on the field', which is probably better than 'when this card is summoned you can banish a card on the field'. Not saying it's bad, just that it has a lot of competition for just being a generic synchro without even considering the other generic extra deck monsters, like fusion and link. It also doesn't help that some of those synchros that it competes with are also level 10.
@olvynchuru1663
@olvynchuru1663 Жыл бұрын
Chaos Angel is excellent if you make it on your opponent's turn with Hop Ear Squadron or Formula Synchron. This way, you can banish a key card while they're in the middle of their combos to disrupt them.
@togdrre6887
@togdrre6887 Жыл бұрын
Video Idea: Cards that you can play when your deck doesnt need the normal summon (Cards like Lava Golem, the barrier statues, adventure engine, etc)
@weebutrash8733
@weebutrash8733 Жыл бұрын
Adventure engine doesn't take your normal summon
@joshhaynes4737
@joshhaynes4737 Жыл бұрын
​@@weebutrash8733But it locks you into special summons
@togdrre6887
@togdrre6887 Жыл бұрын
@@weebutrash8733 It says you cant activate the effects of normal summonsed monster, which I counter for it
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@joshhaynes4737 No, it only keeps you from activating the effects of Normal Summoned monsters.
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын
Invoked.
@snailracer4082
@snailracer4082 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, I appreciate you explaining the weaknesses of Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess and Accesscode Talker. Those facts are refreshing after seeing two in your videos for months if not _years._ Secondly, I _love_ the uses of white text to make yellow text stand out as you covered Number F0: Utopic Draco Future! This practice shows how this card's monster-stealing effect is currently unparalleled. May this technique reappear often.
@randumo24
@randumo24 Жыл бұрын
Accesscode has a MAJOR extra weakness in Master Duel too if you aren't paying attention because you can tribute itself for it's own effect and you can easily make the mistake of doing so if you either don't pay attention or don't pay direct attention to the details of its effects.
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 10 ай бұрын
Wow i never know his atk gain effect is spell speed 4
@brandogg974
@brandogg974 Жыл бұрын
Underworld goddess is insane. Basically a free kaiju + dark ruler no more if you get enough link material on the field
@YGOMadness
@YGOMadness Жыл бұрын
I use goddes in every deck, easy to out any cards
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
Ive been white woman jumpscare'd more times than the link rating itself...especially vs spright
@YGOMadness
@YGOMadness Жыл бұрын
@@Dz73zxxx trueee, when spright player waiting moment to use his IP, i use their IP for our material hahahahha
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj Жыл бұрын
That on Tears... Hoo boy! She's scary!
@PyraXadon
@PyraXadon Жыл бұрын
Can confirm. Dude just had a luster soldier - soldier of chaos on board. I couldn't out it aside from just...underword goddess'ing it away.
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 "is your archetype unique or all it does is spam a couple of these and call it a day?"
@fugax_vulpes1797
@fugax_vulpes1797 Жыл бұрын
Mannadium, Superheavy Samurais
@HektorMD
@HektorMD Жыл бұрын
Best top of the year, hands down!!. It's crazy to think that in 2023 powerful cards like Utopia The Lighning are powercrept by this insane bosses. Another awesome video Duel Logs, thanks!
@mattcravens3709
@mattcravens3709 Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear some commentary about types added to the game (e.g. Wyrm, Psychic, Cyberse) and the circumstances: what was the first one, what set, why, etc.
@bajanyaoikaizer6902
@bajanyaoikaizer6902 Жыл бұрын
Psychic made sense to add with all the shenanigans in the anime, its just that later in 5Ds due to drama, they had to be placed on a back burner. Cyberse is to promote the 6 era and dueling in cyber space and promote Link summoning. Though realistically, they're just psychic, spellcaster/warrior/dragons, thunder and machine type monsters fused together into one. Wyrm are just dragons. They didn't to make "too much dragons" for some reason, also duel terminal shenanigans. Also shown in how a lot of them are just "enhanced/alternate" dragons and how little support they get, and how overly convoluted and gimmicky many of their effects are.
@servbot128
@servbot128 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Illusionist type which was added with no explanation lol
@thefonzpart
@thefonzpart Жыл бұрын
@@servbot128Konami did a livestream to announce the new type and explained its origins lmao
@mardshima2070
@mardshima2070 Жыл бұрын
@@bajanyaoikaizer6902 Sea Serpent's Japanese name is "Sea Dragon" and Wyrm's Japanese name is "Phantasm Dragon"... They just like dragon too much. We even have Grapha, Thunder Dragons, more than half of Divine Beast, and many more non-dragon type dragons.
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
The first psychics were things like Mind master, krebons and archefield ruler synchros, who were meant to introduce the new synchro mechanics alongside the arcadia movement storyline in 5ds Wyrms began through Yang zings, as constellar sombre used the power "to create a new form of life" alluding a new type. Cyberses are just like propaganda. Really. The most I can deduce is how they are digital creatures but not quite machines. And illusionists are a manga reference that took waaaay too long to be imported and is basically any phantasmal looking creature
@Kojir0555
@Kojir0555 Жыл бұрын
Psychic End punisher kinda deserves an honorable mention imo.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Жыл бұрын
Top ten extra deck monsters with _non-generic_ summoning requirements (like needing multiple named monsters as materials).
@alaabouhouia3240
@alaabouhouia3240 Жыл бұрын
Mirrorjade and dpe
@m.rasyidhibatullah7775
@m.rasyidhibatullah7775 Жыл бұрын
1:31 the best think is, it's not even a crash since Borrelsword cannot be destroyed by battle
@gambitgambles
@gambitgambles Жыл бұрын
Barrone de Fleur just does everything, free chicken tenders the card
@Sta_cotto
@Sta_cotto Жыл бұрын
About half this list has absolutely no business being generic.
@MrChillaxin2010
@MrChillaxin2010 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Accesscode should have been 2+ Effect monster, including a Cyberse monster.
@neroneroren6788
@neroneroren6788 Жыл бұрын
Most of the current problems with the Extra Deck is because being too many generics. Things like Verte and Halq wouldn't have become a headache for years if they were stuck in their archetypes.
@andreis3416
@andreis3416 Жыл бұрын
Literally any deck playing level 4 monsters can make every single one of these monsters, they only need some of them to be tuners and a level 2 tuner for baronne, how is this not generic to you?
@arielcevallos8188
@arielcevallos8188 Жыл бұрын
For real, I hate when an archetype extra deck monster doesn't require at least one of their own archetype monsters to summon...
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
No one likes restrictive materials. Its a reason no likes when extra deck monsters summoning require specific materials. Irs why fusion monsters moved away from specific name materials cause no one liked that. If it's not generic, no one will play it. Also if you archetype is garbage then it becomes a relic of good boss forever stuck in a garbage Archetype. Most notorious examples is Ice Barrier sunchros
@joseluistrejo1859
@joseluistrejo1859 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: All the top 10 cards on the list have a summoning animation in Master Duel.
@ave4622
@ave4622 Жыл бұрын
Remember Fleur archtype? Remember when they release a bunch of weird noble knight horse synchro support for Sherry's deck? Yeah, it would've been nice if the deck got a really good boss monster for their archtype instead...
@ferryfernandus1423
@ferryfernandus1423 Жыл бұрын
on my experience acceecode flaw has 1 huge backup tool, summon him using Gatchiri @ignister, its basically a 5300 towers that cannot be nibiru'd. if you using the standard jammer, transcode into accesscode and you have gatchiri in hand, summon accesscode using jammer as the link 2 material then transcode and finally gatchiri, (gatchiri summon itself by targeting the jammer) then when accesscode is summoned, CL1 gatchiri, CL2 Jammer and CL3 Accesscode, basically an unaffected 5300 beater that can attack twice, and destroy at least 2 cards on opponent side
@MilenAnessar
@MilenAnessar Жыл бұрын
I honestly do not like powerful boss monsters that are generic and splash into every decks that they shouldn't have the spot for unless it's a standalone non-Archetype card like Zeus or Zealantis, I prefer them having the NEED to stay in their Archetype or at least monster type / attribute. Accesscode should have been locked to Code talker or Cyberse decks and Borrel to Rokket decks, something like that. It'd make more diversity to the game where the players have to choose what deck to play what boss monster they want, some decks are even mash all these generic bosses together and seems to have identity crisis.
@fxlja
@fxlja Жыл бұрын
Half of this list being generic is one of the main reasons why powercreep in this game is getting out of hand. Any new card released will be IMMEDIATELY put to the test to either contest these cards or turbo them out. Some possible easy fixes are modifications to their materials, keeping their splashability to a degree but requiring decks that don't play the archetype to commit more (but Konami would never do these bcs Konami): 1. Borreload Savage Dragon: 1 "Rokket" Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monster(s). 2. Accesscode Talker: 2+ Effect Monsters, including a Cyberse monster. 3. Time Thief Redoer: 2 Level 4 DARK Machine or Psychic monsters.
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they made that master rule edit in 2020. If we were still stuck in the original master rule 4, pretty much everything but Link monsters would be forgotten about.
@Billy_Wyatt
@Billy_Wyatt Жыл бұрын
Impressive on how the game has filled with generic extra deck monsters. I think a better design would've been if they were locked to being archetype specific but that's just me.
@HowlingDoom
@HowlingDoom Жыл бұрын
Generic Extra Deck monsters are there to give decks that struggle with a particular aspect, being able to close out games when in the clear lead, make up for lack of interaction, etc. the ability to do so. Generic monsters are completely fine in concept.
@LeMisterRai
@LeMisterRai Жыл бұрын
It's funny that Baronne, a WIND level 10 Synchro monster was released on the same set as Crystal Clear Wing Synchro Dragon, making Speedroid's shiny new boss monster and the set's cover monster dead on arrival.
@jakew6162
@jakew6162 5 ай бұрын
I’ll take Clear Wing instead of Baronne. Generic Monsters are lame
@0mn0m15
@0mn0m15 Жыл бұрын
This is the bad thing about today's boss monsters. They're generic to the point where meta decks can use them, decreasing deck diversity. Back then, monsters like Cyber End Dragon were ACTUAL boss monsters because they were often used within a deck of their own or related archetype, or related to their types in general. Top of that, they're more rewarding to use when boss monsters are used in their "home" decks (like Savage Dragon to Rokkets).
@AlexanderMadolche
@AlexanderMadolche Жыл бұрын
Incredible list. Honorary mention for our man bagooska
@drewbabe
@drewbabe Жыл бұрын
I really liked this concept, and I like how you went into more detail with each of these choices, giving example interactions for each card rather than talking about them purely in the abstract, but I think you missed the mark on the actual list contents, primarily by putting other cards here in place of Underworld Goddess. Underworld Goddess (White Woman Jumpscare) should have made this list, honestly above Avramax, simply because it's a Kaiju in your ED that also has a permanent monster negate effect on summon, protection against the premiere forms of interaction, and if made with I:P Masquerena, can interrupt an opponent's plays and then also be undestroyable, forcing the use of either tribute removal, target non-destruction removal, or targeting effect negation, all of which are relatively rare except for the last, but in the modern metagame, targeting effect negation is mostly just InfImp or [your archetype here]'s archetype-specific targeting negate trap card if it even has one, and maybe that one Runick card that negates monster effects (although Runick is losing favor in every format over time), so in other words, it's something you can play around and anticipate since InfImp isn't coming out of the hand in response to White Woman Jumpscare since summoned specifically to help break established boards, meaning InfImp will have to be set first and thus telegraphed. It also has some admittedly matchup-specific negation against summons (any deck that doesn't summon from the GY doesn't care about White Woman Jumpscare all that much) which is a nice little perk. IMO it's nearly an auto-include in any deck that also wants to make I:P Masquerena, and along with Avramax forms a duo of perfect choices for using her as material-do you want a towers in Avramax, or do you want a board breaker in Underworld Goddess? Of course, the latter is better in more situations, and she's also easier to summon most of the time since she can be made with materials summoned from anywhere, not just the ED, hence why she should have been above him. Though, I think both of these cards are not as great of generic boss monsters as Apollousa is tbh, even though she can be baited and then beaten over, Apollousa's ability to negate anywhere from 2-4 monster effects (or even more if you have attack increasing effects in your deck!) over her time spent on the board is insane. Though once she's down to 1600 ATK she is kind of no longer a boss monster anymore, but still, an amazing card and way better than both the White Woman Jumpscare and Avram's umpteenth form. Also Time Thief Redoer is not suitable for this list IMO: while it is generic in the way it's made, it's very limited in which kind of decks can make good use of it. Even when I was playing Tear Ishizu I found that Redoer wasn't even my best choice for a Rank 4 most of the time, it was either Bagooska because I was losing and needed to stall to draw an out, or it was Abyss Dweller because I was setting up my turn 1 board. (Honestly, those two monsters are better overall than Redoer, but they're just shy in ATK power to be considered boss monsters, so I get why they wouldn't make this list.) If you really feel strongly that Redoer belongs on the list, then Underworld Goddess would have to edge out Borrelsword Dragon, which tbh also doesn't feel like it belongs on the list since there are so many fantastic generic ED monsters that do more than just threaten an OTK in the upcoming BP, but the argument you provided for its inclusion did make sense to me and its presence _does_ force a preemptive response whenever it shows up, whereas Redoer is kind of just whatever, he's not a real threat on board he's just a pesky fly who isn't a boss by himself, he's more like your real boss' sidekick. And if we're talking about value generated for as many decks as possible, Acesscode is better than Baronne simply because more decks can make links plus its effects being spell speed 4 make it so that if you don't have a way to negate it on an open game state, your ass is grass. Baronne is definitely great in any deck that can make a level 10 synchro and you're right that it's good both going 1st and 2nd, but it's not as generic as Accesscode simply because, unlike Accesscode, it's inaccessible to the majority of decks. Still, it's accessible to enough decks and amazing enough that I think it should have made #2, with Accesscode as #1. I'm just nitpicking with this one tbh. I only wrote all this up because I thought this video was good and interesting moreso than most of your other videos.
@merkyofaycemfx2944
@merkyofaycemfx2944 Жыл бұрын
yeah time thief sends as an effect, so cards like the millers will mill, tears will activate for a fusion. if you summon the guy tear fusion you can non target spin 2 cards, and if you have a way to pop him you get 3. The Ishizu tear exceed plays all have their uses
@Red-mg4ro
@Red-mg4ro Жыл бұрын
Divine Arsenal AA-ZEUS - Sky Thunder wins having the coolest name.
@shapesnatch1341
@shapesnatch1341 Жыл бұрын
How about top 10 cards that would be broken in other archetypes. Ie. cards like Ojama Red (Summons 4 archetype monsters when Normal summoned with no restrictions whatsoever) or Snake Rain (Discard to foolish 4 monsters with no restrictions either)
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Жыл бұрын
Easily Snake Rain. It's the sole reason why Konami isn't printing out a DECENT Reptile-based deck.
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
Any of abyss actor spell cards, especially opening ceremony. Trade the requirement of pend monster in extra deck face up, to archetypal monsters GY, and no one wants to unleash duster easily
@sandalkumelayang
@sandalkumelayang Жыл бұрын
​@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904or maybe reptile is kinda forgotten i think they can just release a new decent reptile based archetype that doesn't use graveyard or limiting snake rain afterward
@turtlesfan44
@turtlesfan44 Жыл бұрын
@@Dz73zxxx yeah the Abyss scripts are basically in archetype waking the dragon
@Elfking94
@Elfking94 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say if it was in any other archetype ojamas would be broken. The Chazz archetypes biggest weakness currently is all the normal monsters, tho I think if normals get their day again it may rebalance it out, as the deck certainly has the options
@marsfreek5412
@marsfreek5412 Жыл бұрын
Every extra monster has no business being generic. Making every extra deck work only inside there archtypes would fix almost every issue with the banlist
@olvynchuru1663
@olvynchuru1663 Жыл бұрын
Baronne de Fleur would've been a lot more fair if it actually required Fleur Synchron as the tuner (like Chevalier de Fleur). It would still fit into the Fleur archetype but probably wouldn't have ended up everywhere.
@dancostello4872
@dancostello4872 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how it should have been. Alternatively they could have made 'Horse of the Floral Knights' a Level 2 Tuner instead of just a regular Level 3 effect monster (the Noble Knight effect isn't a big deal since Sherry did _technically_ use a couple of them in the anime) and had that be the Tuner requirement, given that Baronne is literally Chevalier de Fleur mounted on one.
@Kurumisama
@Kurumisama Жыл бұрын
not as syncro material but as condition for the negate effect, and as incentive to play chevalier, allow baronne to float into instead of the generic stand by resummon
@littlefish2944
@littlefish2944 Жыл бұрын
All of those monsters are the reason I cannot build any deck anymore, I HAVE to build a deck that can at least surpass these cards AND handtraps. It's true that they made some decks viable, but in the end, they're all the same end board that came in different ways.
@edediquette33
@edediquette33 Жыл бұрын
As a video idea for an episode of the Unknown Side of Yugioh how about you do one talking about the Chronomoly archetype where you discuss the various artifacts in it? Personally I’m not the biggest history fan but that would honestly seem like a very interesting topic for that series and also very enjoyable video to watch~ Thank you for always providing amazing videos to watch Duel Logs! There always very enjoyable to watch! Keep up the great work! I hope you and all that are reading this has a great day! Stay safe all!
@cameronbarnes1434
@cameronbarnes1434 Жыл бұрын
I like how it's stated that the best bosses aren't usually the big ticket names for anime, But if you count including a card as ways to get around one he mentioned 5 big ticket names in the anime.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool Жыл бұрын
I find physic end punisher one I'd put on the list. Master duel during the synchro event I had a blast summoning him and making my ash give a beat stick with my wyrm deck. Mekk knight is funny as everytime I duel it I find a way to use it for fusion it's hilarious
@Shadow8332
@Shadow8332 Жыл бұрын
It's cool. But the main problem is that it hasn't had high historical usage just yet since it's mostly just used in punk decks. Would like it over borrelsword though since they are both generic otk enablers.
@trippersigs2248
@trippersigs2248 Жыл бұрын
Its good, but a conditional tower isnt nearly as good and generic as the cards on this list.
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
PEP's good but...i hardly seein it outside P.U.N.K tho
@reisen9584
@reisen9584 Жыл бұрын
it's not generic. Mostly in punk deck. And maybe a bit of in tearlament. And it's not even that good in tear, because it's a win more card. Unlike when in punk.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
PEP is good but you have to use it (him?) correctly. The ATK gain triggers during each Battle phase and too often players choose to attack with PEP without being able to close out the duel reducing their opponent's LP to almost nothing which turns PEP basically into a large vanilla outed by every removal under the sun. If you can't OTK outright, it's better to sit on PEP for another turn to gain more ATK.
@Winasaurus
@Winasaurus 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting that to a new yugioh player who plays master duel, you can generally tell if a card is good because it has a summon cut-in. Bonus points if it's arbitrarily UR. All these have summon cut-ins, don't know about rarity though.
@chrisb.2028
@chrisb.2028 Жыл бұрын
Neat, how about making a top 10 list of the best in archetype searchers spell cards next? maybe leaving Engage out just to make it less predictable.
@dynamicentry6808
@dynamicentry6808 Жыл бұрын
From 2011 onwards the best synchro monster I could always count on was Shooting Quasar Dragon. It was such huge beat stick and an awesome Boss monster
@brotherhood7596
@brotherhood7596 Жыл бұрын
Borreload Savage is the new Quasar
@jh9794
@jh9794 Жыл бұрын
​@brotherhood7596 if I can make both I'd still likeky go for quasar. Quasar is more than just its negate while borrel is just its negate and possible decent attack.
@herrscherofshrimps1451
@herrscherofshrimps1451 Жыл бұрын
Savage requires way less resource tho.
@brotherhood7596
@brotherhood7596 Жыл бұрын
@@herrscherofshrimps1451 True. Quasar's investment is huge
@josesalgado2796
@josesalgado2796 Жыл бұрын
Quasar's investment is massive for an omni negate. It's banish and return to the field for cost is OP. You can activate it under Droplet/Dark Ruler/Imperm and it'll come back ready to negate
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj Жыл бұрын
Avramax is my go to Masquerena target in Mathmech because of his protection effects alongside IP and drawing out opponents' attacks towards him... and if I get Nayuta equipped on him on a follow-up turn, hello OTK!
@GilbertVonArphostein
@GilbertVonArphostein Жыл бұрын
Notice how none of these include ritual fusion or pendulums. This tells me exactly what are the best vs worst summoning mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh.
@paladinofeon9154
@paladinofeon9154 Жыл бұрын
Fusion should get a list. MirrorJade IceBlade Dragon and Destiny Hero Phoenix Enforce are just same of the hardest cards to destroy since they have quick effect to destroy and remove cards.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
Technically, Mirrorjade is as easily destroyed as a vanilla. It just takes revenge (and happens to belong to a deck with a lot of recursion).
@a9mxd_
@a9mxd_ Жыл бұрын
W Avalon never lose hope pfp my g
@Quanze
@Quanze Жыл бұрын
There's already a number of videos for best fusions, but neither of those two would be considered generic which is why they didn't make this list.
@user-mm6ju7ix3y
@user-mm6ju7ix3y Жыл бұрын
mirrorjade is not really run as a generic engine like DPE, because it takes 2 extra deck slots, albaz is worthless in grave and lubellion forces discard (although you could use albion)
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@user-mm6ju7ix3y At least two, since Mirrorjade's banish effect needs fuel. Using Albion means you need one more ED slot for a third Albaz Fusion. Mirrorjade's soft once-per-two-turns with such a specific cost is just too clunky to be splashed.
@jackfishers7858
@jackfishers7858 Жыл бұрын
To add on to Accesscode Talker. Since you can respond to Accesscodes on summon effect to gain attack points and the fact it targets the link monster it wants to gain attack from you can D.D. Crow or called by the targeted link monster. This prevents Accesscode from gaining attack points possibly preventing your opponent from wiping your life points that turn.
@consoleman94
@consoleman94 Жыл бұрын
Literally the first line of text: "Your opponent cannot activate cards or effects in response to this card's effect activations."
@jackfishers7858
@jackfishers7858 Жыл бұрын
@@consoleman94 check 18:10
@consoleman94
@consoleman94 Жыл бұрын
​@@jackfishers7858That doesn't stop Accesscode from gaining ATK, its ATK doesn't disappear from the targeted monster leaving the graveyard in a new chain.
@BlackStar-Pavel-ui8ij
@BlackStar-Pavel-ui8ij Жыл бұрын
While most of these were expected, I also expected to see at least one fusion like either Starving Venom, DPE or Dragoon.
@beegyoshi1685
@beegyoshi1685 Жыл бұрын
they are not generic they have you play garnets but Verte could maybe in it
@randomaj237
@randomaj237 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@beegyoshi1685idk I don’t really consider super poly a garnet, starving venom will always have a home in my Extra
@larshoffmann2594
@larshoffmann2594 Жыл бұрын
Verte isn't a boss monster, just a tool to access one.
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius Жыл бұрын
i've literally never heard anyone say "zeus pilot" until this very moment in history.
@dinosore_rs
@dinosore_rs 10 ай бұрын
17:26 Thank you for clarifying this ruling! I was trying to search it up while the card was being described since I've heard the card text a few times before.
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 Жыл бұрын
Worth noting another benefit of Baronne over Savage is Savage straight up doesn't have a negate until its on summon effect resolves. Savage still loses to something like Torrential or Nib because it needs to remove a counter to negate and doesn't get them until afterwards.
@totallynotdio1311
@totallynotdio1311 Жыл бұрын
I despise every single one here for how much it warps the format along itself. Their existance alone turns most of the deckz into ,,summon z monster from extra deck turbo"
@rishiy6183
@rishiy6183 5 ай бұрын
Borrelsword ain't that bad though
@khntou4178
@khntou4178 Жыл бұрын
Not that it's any good particularly, but I do remember the Gaia Knight synchro being super popular back in the day when I was a kid simply due to its attack (and yeah, I know Goyo pre-errata was better in every way, but weirdly enough I never encountered it)
@Kurumisama
@Kurumisama Жыл бұрын
prob because pre errata goyo was more expensive than Accescode is today
@ratioed1438
@ratioed1438 Жыл бұрын
Still wild how we went from Crystal Wing to Baronne. Question now is what will be the next Synchro to replace Baronne?
@paleasaghost-5799
@paleasaghost-5799 Жыл бұрын
Generic Omni Negate once per turn ☠
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 Жыл бұрын
You know the powercreep of the late Link era has been bad when Borrelsword of all things barely even makes into the list yet would have been in the upper half a few years ago
@rocapbg9518
@rocapbg9518 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Baronne, for the rest I'd do 2. Zeus 3. Apollousa 4. Accesscode 5.Borreload Savage. I agree with the picks, but I think this order is better.
@sorbet6465
@sorbet6465 Жыл бұрын
How about a Top 10 for climbing tools (as in climbing with monsters). You mentioned Accel Stardust Dragon and IP, but there’s also Galaxy Tomahawk and other monsters people might wanna know.
@hattanalshutaifi4587
@hattanalshutaifi4587 Жыл бұрын
Great another top 10 bosses monsters I have been waiting for long while
@bendegen8579
@bendegen8579 Жыл бұрын
This is basically a list of the biggest legal problem cards in the game. Generic extra deck monsters makes endboards way more boring
@thecrimsoncreep6665
@thecrimsoncreep6665 Жыл бұрын
It also weeds out the noobs from the smart people. Noobs will go for Accesscode just to clear a board and deal 5300 and pass. Smart people will use their in-archetype OTK tool to ensure the opponent can't clap back.
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Жыл бұрын
​@@thecrimsoncreep6665what I'm supposed to do then with magikey? I can't close games with vepartu.
@trippersigs2248
@trippersigs2248 Жыл бұрын
​@@thecrimsoncreep6665you must be one of the "noobs". There are plenty of decks that don't produce OTK tools. That's why these cards are a problem because they turn every deck into either OTK turbo or put up too much interaction for you to deal with outside of bullshit board breakers.
@thecrimsoncreep6665
@thecrimsoncreep6665 Жыл бұрын
@@trippersigs2248 I never said there weren't decks without OTK tools. I'm just saying I've seen a lot of people for for Accesscode unoptimally because they don't know the deck they just picked up. Superheavy Samurai for example can put up a 4k beater that can attack twice using one of its basic extenders, but I see people not even using Synchro monsters at all.
@thecrimsoncreep6665
@thecrimsoncreep6665 Жыл бұрын
@@trippersigs2248 Also some decks can't even make Accesscode without overextending, so there's still plenty of decks that play the long game, even without floodgates.
@maxfragner5485
@maxfragner5485 Жыл бұрын
There are so much more Monsters worth mentioning. The nightmares, verte anaconda, needlefiber, (although they are banned) borrelload dragon, the topologics, bagooska and so on...
@Pkey995
@Pkey995 Жыл бұрын
Verte/halq are more of extenders kind of cards than "boss" monsters right? The nightmares are also not rly "bosses" more like tools borreload yeah but bagooska is also not rly a "boss" imo
@maxfragner5485
@maxfragner5485 Жыл бұрын
@@Pkey995 oh wow im so stupid haha i forgot the Word bosses lol
@dantekirenryu980
@dantekirenryu980 Жыл бұрын
Figured it would Barrone. I recently pulled the card from the Maze of Memory box and I wasnt expecting it. I was trying to make a Gate Guardian deck, now I’m trying to figure out a way or two to fit her into the deck. Thank goodness I pulled her because her price on TCGPlayer is nuts 😅
@WhosA1Trick
@WhosA1Trick Жыл бұрын
I think it’s important to realise that drident is not the problem with zoos. For their time, drident providing on-demand removal(essentially) was an incredibly strong effect, and with consistency that zoos hold to this day. However, in todays meta-game(much more power-crept,) link monsters can provide the same things with generic archetype cards(freeing up tons of other slots for other techs/extra deck monsters). Drident is not banned in master duel for a reason, it’s not very good. However, that’s not to say that the *other* zoos should not stay banned. Cards like broadbull and ratpier are easily abusable in modern combo decks because they are not once per turn. Decks would be able to abuse these cards to spam a ton of bodies with 0 locks with only 1 card, with drident as a cherry on top or fail-safe, should you brick on the other 4 cards in your hand, trying to play past disruption. Pre-links, cards that could spam bodies were more common since less decks had a practical use for them. Todays meta game changes that entirely, which is also the reason spyrals instantly became one of the best archetypes ever printed.
@kevinlee5753
@kevinlee5753 Жыл бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh Vrains definitely gave us some good cards
@Ulquiorra_Cifer
@Ulquiorra_Cifer Жыл бұрын
if the cards of this list were banned or at least gor restricted to their own archetypes the games would've been waay much more balanced
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
You want to back to GX? We're fusions are unplayable garbage because every single fusion had super restricted material, effects that do not help the Archetype, and fusion clause? Yeah no. No likes it when a card is overly balanced or restricted. Balanced decks do not win. That's something you learn the hard way.
@Ulquiorra_Cifer
@Ulquiorra_Cifer Жыл бұрын
@@soukenmarufwt5224 i am not talking about restricting every generic card, but at the same time, every single combo decks have almost the same extra deck: ip, appolousa, unicorn, savage, accesscode, baronne, and most of the rest are mostly archetype related monsters that lead to the main generic cards
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
Here's a custom card I made out of spite. Evil HERO Destroyer of Worlds 1 Dark HERO fusion + 1 or more dark monsters. Attack 3000 defense 2000 Must be Fusion summoned with Dark Fusion. This card summoning can not be negated. Can not be targeted and unaffected by all card effects, except its own effect. This card can not be used as fusion, Synchro, xyz, or link material. When this card is special summoned, banish all monsters your opponent controls or all spell/traps your opponent controls. This effect can not be negated. If this card was fusioned summoned using only Dark monsters, this card can not be tributed. When a card or effect I activated (quick effect); you can banish a HERO monster from your hand, field or GY; negate the activation and if you do banish it. Your opponent can not activate card effects in response to this cards activation. This cards 1000 attack and defense for card banished by this effect. If this card leaves the field; banish all cards your opponent controls; then special summon as many of your banished HERO monsters ignoring their summoning conditions. This effect can not be negated. Never give spiteful and vindictive custom card creators like me ideas.
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Жыл бұрын
​@@Ulquiorra_Ciferlook abyss actor and ddd have entire extra deck consist of their own cards, they are still fuck strong enough under the right player.
@Ulquiorra_Cifer
@Ulquiorra_Cifer Жыл бұрын
@@r3zaful but they aren't even rogue tier strong
@peacechan4500
@peacechan4500 Жыл бұрын
Alt title, list of what should you craft in Master duel
@williamruiz4571
@williamruiz4571 Жыл бұрын
Apollousa with Baron in pendulum decks is irritating to deal with and that's why I run them always with Borreload.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
They both are wind so super poly can fuck up both of them thanks to Garura.
@xaphan_fallen_angel
@xaphan_fallen_angel Жыл бұрын
I feel like UDF especially is too big of a pain. Being able to negate and permanently steal opponents monsters without targeting them is just annoying. This way even if you manage to prevent targeting of your monsters, it won't work against this guy. Additionally the protection effects of not being able to be destroyed by battle or card effects is just too much for such a generic card.
@VoltitanDev
@VoltitanDev 5 ай бұрын
1:05 Gren Maju: Hold my beer.
@brightpowder_cena
@brightpowder_cena Жыл бұрын
Accesscode about to find itself on Logs's blacklist
@Rtbv07
@Rtbv07 Жыл бұрын
The Video is great and your voice is just amazing. But one small mistake: Access Code doesn’t target!!! That’s also a reason why it’s so good
@tanngrisnir6089
@tanngrisnir6089 Жыл бұрын
Borrelsword doesnt crash with 6-Material Arrival (Borrelsword cant be destroyed by battle, so it actually kinda wins the battle)
@tubegerm6732
@tubegerm6732 Жыл бұрын
i am so happy he pronounced baronne correctly.
@robicoopter
@robicoopter 11 ай бұрын
Baron shouldn‘t be generic
@milesedgeworth6353
@milesedgeworth6353 9 ай бұрын
Great list, haven't played YGO in a while(around the time MD released) but I just find it hilarious that Borrelsword is refered to as "clunky in modern YGO" even though links were the last big mechanic the normal game got.
@smonke7372
@smonke7372 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a Top 10 List, that somehow includes every Firewall Dragon? Kinda wanna see that. (Obviously you couldn‘t do „Top 10 Firewall Dragon monsters“, because that would only include 4 cards and even „Top 10 Firewall cards“ would be only 9 cards, 8 if you don‘t include the trap card Firewall). Can you do it or can you not? :)
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
16:27 Ms(?) Lily saving TDL face, consider giving her a raise.
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu Жыл бұрын
I'm not sold of Time Thief Redoer being a great boss. It's a great utility monster I'll grant that. But unless you have trap monsters or are playing against a deck full of backrow, it hardly qualifies as a boss monster. Being able to save your cards from banish, get extra draws, or force your opponent to waste negates, is a good thing, but this doesn't make a boss monster. It can only stuff if it has a trap.
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын
Dodges removal, STEALS CARDS, and is generic to make.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
A lot of people ran traps now with evenly and imperm being the most popular and that's not counting archetypal traps where Branded and Tear using alot of them. It's super slippery and has potential to non target spin your card. Though as silly as it sounds, ash stops redoer even when it doesn't have spell to detach and because the detach is an effect, it won't send the xyz materials, stopping important gy effect from being triggered.
@JaimeAGB-pt4xl
@JaimeAGB-pt4xl Жыл бұрын
These types of cards are the Reason why ALL YGO DECKS ACTUALLY PLAY THE SAME STRATEGY ... even if YGO players don't know/admit to it
@AloneTheorist
@AloneTheorist 5 ай бұрын
Unchained abomination for an honourable mention. 2+ monsters, including a link monster, being more generic in modern game states than Avramax while still accessing an Avramax style summon combo. Its three trigger effects can prevent most of the rest of this list from even being summoned by removing their materials from the board almost as quickly as they could be deployed. First-Third summoning of Abomination via an I:p masquerena strategy can afford it's owner complete control of the opponent's play state by picking apart their board on it's set up or by their own interactions with any number of cards or ending their turn. At this point in a duel it also has very few common weaknesses unlike some other members of this list, for example infinite impermanence would have to be played from hand to be a valid counter other than that dark ruler no more or effect veiler. Tokens can also be used as link material for this monster, so this mighty link-4 can be made using a single copy of scapegoat at an opportune moment, then turning two tokens into I:p masquerena something very few members of the list can achieve.
@AloneTheorist
@AloneTheorist 5 ай бұрын
Effects of Unchained Abomination: 1. If a card a card on the field is destroyed by card effect, except by unchained abomination: you can target one card on the field and destroy it. 2. If another monster is destroyed by battle; you can target one card on the field and destroy it. 3. During THE end phase; you can target one card on the field and destroy it. These three effects if used strategically and on both player's turns can cause Unchained Abomination's to have complete control of the flow of the duel despite the targeting requirements of it's effects. Meaning early enough summoning of this card can effectively let you control the interactions your opponent can make. Also any spell or trap removal can trigger the first effect making Abomination an add on or extender to cards such as Harpie's feather duster, mystical space typhoon and dust tornado among a long list of others.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Жыл бұрын
🧿-dea for another generic boss monster, and an “Eyes-Restrict” one at that: _Xyz-aulted Eyes-Restrict_ (DARK) Rank 1 Spellcatser/Xyz/Effect 5+ level 1 monsters _You can also Xyz this card using 2+ monsters you control that have other cards equipped or attached to them, and if you do, attach all their equipped/attached cards to this card. Gains ATK/DEF equal to the ATK/DEF of all cards attached to it as material. If this card would removed from the field (By battle or card effects), or it’s attacks or effects negated, you can detach 1 material from this card instead. (Quick effect) You can activate each of the following effects once per turn, and if you do, this card cannot attack this turn: ⚪️You can target 1 card on the field; attach that target, and all cards equipped/attached to it, to this card as material. ⚪️Ritual summon any 1 Ritual monster (from your hand, deck or GY): You must also detach materials from this card equal to or greater then that card’s level. If that monster ritual summoned by this effect would leave the field; attach it to this card instead.⚪️If your opponent would normal summon/set or special summon any number of cards while using any number of cards as tributes or materials: Detach 2 materials from this card; Negate the summon, then attach to this card either all the cards that would have been summoned/set OR all the cards that would have been tributes/materials for those summon(s)/set(s)._ ATK/0 DEF/0
@unclebman0075
@unclebman0075 Жыл бұрын
Idk why that zodaic would be on this list. Never seen it be used genericly. As well as utopia the lightning should have been mentioned low on this list. A lot of decks that can easily makes rank 4 xyz usually run one utopia engine. Helps avoid battle effects and will beat over avaremax. Btw top ten warrior support cards and warrior type monsters list please?
@jamesjohnson3470
@jamesjohnson3470 Жыл бұрын
Love the generic use videos! One video idea: good generic tech to throw into rogue decks
@jerematic
@jerematic Жыл бұрын
This may be a controversial take but: All these cards need banning (or erratas to make them more difficult/require architype material, to summon. They make end boards very predictable and boring.
@chazaqiel2319
@chazaqiel2319 Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for a future video: Top 10 Most Powerful Monsters. Not the best, not the most efficient, just the ones that, if you manage to go through the effort to slam them onto the field, provide the most impactful effects. Let's just do a celebration of dumb, impractical playground hype machines which never had a chance to shine in a competitive setting! I would also love to see such a video on the MTG channel!
@cypherdastro8105
@cypherdastro8105 Жыл бұрын
This might not be in the top 10 but I imagine Zuushin the sleeping giant is an example of what you mean right? Also good idea for a video ^-^
@chazaqiel2319
@chazaqiel2319 Жыл бұрын
@@cypherdastro8105 Yes, exactly what I mean. Zushin technically has a bigger impact on the field than something like, say, DPE. Of course DPE is infinitely more competitive, because the payoff/investment ratio to actually getting it onto the field is much, much higher. But Zushin is technically more powerful IF it hits the field.
@cypherdastro8105
@cypherdastro8105 Жыл бұрын
@@chazaqiel2319 Might also be a good idea to exclude auto-win cards like Creator god of light horakhty unless there aren't enough entries. Also the cards have to actually hit the field to qualify so no exodia.
@chazaqiel2319
@chazaqiel2319 Жыл бұрын
@@cypherdastro8105 Agreed
@KaiserShield
@KaiserShield Жыл бұрын
Can't say I agree with F0, Draco future in the list. It's strong but far to difficult to summon with it needing 3 ED slots to summon which is and far more space then what most non xyz decks can or should commit to.
@dantekirenryu980
@dantekirenryu980 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say difficult because it devolve versions Utopic Future and Future Slash have a lesser, but similar summoning requirement with only 2, with Future Slash able to be summoned with any Utopia monster and Utopic Future as an alternative summoning condition. So I imagine people would add either those two cards alongside Draco Future.
@KaiserShield
@KaiserShield Жыл бұрын
@dantekirenryu980 this is a list of the best 'generic' boss monsters. Which means most decks(or at least ones People actually use semi commonly) can summon easily. And most of them do not have room for multiple xyz monsters just to summon for a OPT monster negater. Psychic End Punisher and Underworld goddess would have been been far better bosses over it and borrelsword.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
Having room is just a choice you make when deckbuilding, though. That every deck can do it doesn't mean that it is worth it in every case. I guess you could argue that Underworld Goddess is more of a boss monster than Time Thief Redoer but when do you ever end on Goddess? Either you use her as a Kaiju to clear the field for an OTK or you summon her during your opponent's turn with I:P, which makes her as much a utility card as Redoer (who can be considered the boss monster of his archetype).
@KaiserShield
@KaiserShield Жыл бұрын
@xCorvus7x If you're building a optimized and meta deck though choice isnt really a option though. And the underworld goddess usage rate in MD speaks for its usefulness by itself. Most decks that can summon it, have it. And even if she isn't consistently useful every game comes in handy enough, often enough that she warrants a spot in them. As foe Rodoer I don't think it's a boss monster really. It's useful but not that splashable and more annoying then anything.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@KaiserShield Is it not the case that most decks aren't meta anyway? Meta is only the top fraction of all decks. Five ED slots is pushing it but not _much_ more than running Zoodiacs for Drident or Zeus. Goddess's playrate on MD is skewed by the variety of the format as well as the format being best-of-one. Using a Quick-Effect Kaiju as interruption is good but if there was no need to prepare for the occasional Crooked Cook, Arrival Cyberse, or whatever else is best answered with a Kaiju, she'd certainly be played less. That kind of goes for the whole Time Thief archetype.
@davidcantor8349
@davidcantor8349 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mentions should have included Mudragon of the Swamp. How many times was a game lost because it was prey to Super Polymerization?
@theaverageDon
@theaverageDon Жыл бұрын
Accesscode should've been "2+effect monsters including a Code Talker monster"
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
or can only target code talkers for atk boost
@TheKyleBrah
@TheKyleBrah Жыл бұрын
They could errata all of these like Goyo Guardian. Add a specific attribute or type to one of the materials. Just don't spam Dark or Warrior, lmao
@nedrostram2360
@nedrostram2360 Жыл бұрын
Goyo should have been 1 Warrior Tuner instead of 1 EARTH Tuner.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 Жыл бұрын
Dugares should have been there. He is just so incredibly versatile and useful in basically every circumstance.
@Dramatic_Gaming
@Dramatic_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Alternate Titles: -Top 10 Monsters That Ruin The Extra Deck -Top 10 Monsters That Ruin Legacy Support
@godlotus8329
@godlotus8329 Жыл бұрын
when I die i want him to narrate my top 10 accolades
@razgrizsol13
@razgrizsol13 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see a top 10 worst/best cards that need garnets!
@user-mm6ju7ix3y
@user-mm6ju7ix3y Жыл бұрын
*red-eyes dark dragoon*
@blastmole299
@blastmole299 Жыл бұрын
The only good thing for the monsters on this list is most of them can be dealt with with board breakers rather easily, except for Baronne, Savage, and Avramax
@pfeilinger4463
@pfeilinger4463 Жыл бұрын
there were already many great suggestions in the comments, maybe predaplant dragostapelia since it was an absolute staple in tear decks and is still played in many decks that can play superpoly(although not as much as garura and maybe not as much as starving venom fusion dragon)
@user-mm6ju7ix3y
@user-mm6ju7ix3y Жыл бұрын
if fusions were on the list (fusion is usually too hard for decks to slot as tech) then dragostapelia would probably be the pick
@themerchant9711
@themerchant9711 Жыл бұрын
It might be worth arguing that it wasn't just the hit to recital that killed bird alone but also the hit to Simorgh. If it had just been recital the deck could have limped on with Sylvan princessprite. With Simorgh and recital hit the get couldn't get out the Omni negate /barrier statue which made it much weaker Also adding the new Bystial synchro. Level 10, generic, and has 3500 atk which means even if your opponent plays through it plenty of traditional boss monsters can't beat over it
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын
Requires a Dragon non-Tuner
@climacks
@climacks Жыл бұрын
Swordsoul chengying should have been here imo. He has singled handedly won me a lot of duels because his destruction protection, banish ability and ability to decrease other atlk while raising his own.
@Pkey995
@Pkey995 Жыл бұрын
I think its not generic enough
@billiardplayers
@billiardplayers Жыл бұрын
I think Bagooska is one of the superior generic extra deck monsters and you didnt mention it, also i kinda disagree that talker is on the second place, i think it should be at the very top of that list, otherwise it wouldnt be the most used extra deck monster :D
@nedrostram2360
@nedrostram2360 Жыл бұрын
If an Extra Deck monster needs to be summoned in an unusual way, even if that monster is used as a staple, it is not generic. AA-ZEUS, UDF, and Drident are summoned outside of their standard procedure, while Avramax requires you to use Extra Deck monsters as material.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
That's insensible. A generic summoning method is not one that is used very often but one that virtually every deck can accomplish.
@nedrostram2360
@nedrostram2360 Жыл бұрын
@@xCorvus7x What generic deck is going to use Drident or Utopic Future?
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@nedrostram2360 Which deck is generic?
@nedrostram2360
@nedrostram2360 Жыл бұрын
@@xCorvus7x Any deck you can just build on a budget is generic. Some of these Extra Deck monsters require you to build the deck around summoning them, so these monsters aren’t generic.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
@@nedrostram2360 That is, again, insensible. The accomodations you have to make for Drident, UDF, or Zeus can be done by every deck and are no different than other considerations during deck building, where you already have to decide which cards/engines to play and how you best use the limited Extra Deck space you have. It's reasonable to expect a generic deck to run several Level 4 or lower monsters as well as Tuners (if for no reason other than some of the best handtraps in the game being Tuners) and nowadays you can also expect it to be able to summon a couple of them during a single turn. That these ten monsters are the best generic ED monsters doesn't mean that they are always the best choice: depending on what exactly you are playing you might have better options available or need the space for other things. No Kashtira player would cut Shangri-Ira or Ariseheart to run enough Zoodiac cards for a 4+ material Drident/Zeus.
@ChaosDarkLight
@ChaosDarkLight Жыл бұрын
Generic boss monsters like these were a mistake. They should've been in-series only.
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
No one likes restricted cards. This a fallacy cause no one likes going into a massive minus for cards that do not help and no one likes cards that require specific named material or locking you into a garbage archetype or attribute
@ChaosDarkLight
@ChaosDarkLight Жыл бұрын
Most people agree with me on this one, actually. You're probably the first in recent memory that's this vocally against it. If archetypes were more exclusive, it encourages more variety in deckbuilding, and uniqueness to decks. People use these generic boss monsters because they're forced to.
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosDarkLight This is a facility created by casuals and anime YGO fans. Most archetype exclusive boss monsters are garbage or have the mentality if DM or GX era, which go minus with no pay off. If a boss monsters gets outed by Compulsory and no protectionor negation. Its a bad boss monster. I played back when fusions were unplayable garbage. I love cards like Magical Scientist, Metamorphosis, Cyber Stein and so on to cheat out fusions. Cause I hate using specific materials to summon and using King of Swamp was always a chore. Guess what, not only were they too strong. Konami was so salty no one was playing fusions with Polymerization. They stated making fusion that forcebyou to use specific material or fusion clause so you can't revive them. Which only made hate fusion mechanic more until Glad Beasts. Its why being generic helps cause if it's not generic. No one will play it.
@ChaosDarkLight
@ChaosDarkLight Жыл бұрын
@@soukenmarufwt5224 cool story bro
@leetri
@leetri Жыл бұрын
@@soukenmarufwt5224 How about making good archetype exclusives then instead of super overpowered generic monsters? Literally all the monsters on this list would've been just as good if they would've been restricted to their own archetype in some way, the only difference would be that not literally every single deck would run them. The only reason people don't play archetype exclusives is because the generic monsters are just obscene in comparison. With no busted generic cards you have to play the archetype exclusives to get the strong stuff.
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын
Top ten carss with reminder text, possibly? (Stuff like Harpies and Summoned Skull.)
@dinox3264
@dinox3264 Жыл бұрын
Borrelsword imo should be higher, when it released it provided so many decks with ez otk lines. The game became much faster thanks to it, sure it was power crept by accesscode but show my homie some love
@tman1669
@tman1669 Жыл бұрын
Redoer is definitely a gamble card that works too good.
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is if they put something similar on a main deck monster, it would be a yawn.
@xenonim
@xenonim Жыл бұрын
Fyi, all the monster in the list have summoning animation in MD. Means if opponent special summon this boss monster and your have no answer to it. Your probably have to receive big L unless your have answer to this boss monster especially forbidden droplet and dark ruler no more.
@samarius_art_and_games
@samarius_art_and_games Жыл бұрын
Logs: *Calls F0 "UDF"* Me: Number F0: United Dairy Farmers
@joshhaynes4737
@joshhaynes4737 Жыл бұрын
Rongomaniad had to get banned it was so good, a floodgate, the ability to destroy your opponents' cards, and destruction protection, VFD, Azathough, and Utopic Zexal was powerful floodgates, and Dragoon is practically indestructible once it hits the board and can pop opponent's cards twice per turn, plus a negate.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Жыл бұрын
Making a Rhongomyniad worth the effort takes a non-generically large investment (even with Gossip Shadow, being able to make exactly one Rank 4 _and_ one Rank 3 is not as generic as making multiple Rank 4s _or_ Rank 3s). The Rank 9 pool as a whole isn't really generic. Azathot required a whole combo to set up (and if you used it during your turn to make yourself handtrap proof it's not really a boss monster, is it?). Dragoon is not really generic, requiring one named and one half-generic material, and was only really splashable in most decks while Verte was legal.
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