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Explaining All Banned Trap Cards in YuGiOh [Part 2, (Final Part)]

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TheDuelLogs

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@senorsnuggy9104
@senorsnuggy9104 3 жыл бұрын
Man I don't even play Yu-Gi-Oh, I just love listening to this man talk.
@Brazz27
@Brazz27 3 жыл бұрын
We are a lot in this situation I think lol, and I even recently caught myself thinking at some cool decks that I could try (I wasnt making much sense in my thinking most likely though)
@xandros_74
@xandros_74 3 жыл бұрын
I like YGO and I love Duellogs' voice too It's so relaxing
@thatman666
@thatman666 3 жыл бұрын
I don't play Battle Spirits but love the cards from other series they collaborated with. (Digimon, Ultraman, Kaijus, Kamen Rider)
@DerpyLaron
@DerpyLaron 3 жыл бұрын
This. I don't even want to pla Yu-gi-oh( I tried Duel Links and legcay of the duelist), but I just love his voice. I just wish he'd make more D&D videos.
@dangerjones4632
@dangerjones4632 3 жыл бұрын
All I do is play nurse-burn, traptrix and dragon maids online against my friend, who's massive into yugioh. But like 90% of it yugioh time is this dudes vids.
@Stalutes64
@Stalutes64 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m glad there aren’t any competitive gamble cards” Cries in duel links
@k0ngbuster
@k0ngbuster 3 жыл бұрын
Desperado Barrel Dragon decks. I find it interesting when he misses really obvious details like that, for a person that plays Duel Links consistently.
@alexismelgoza5959
@alexismelgoza5959 3 жыл бұрын
*despacito playing in the background*
@tinynho6
@tinynho6 3 жыл бұрын
@@k0ngbuster really I thought the same. he plays Duel Links but forgot to mention Desperado
@raymondchen3815
@raymondchen3815 3 жыл бұрын
Well I guess Despacito only sort of counts since you can get guaranteed heads using the skill Master of Destiny so it's not really a gamble some of the time
@Stalutes64
@Stalutes64 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymondchen3815 head judging tho
@TheTobeyLP
@TheTobeyLP 3 жыл бұрын
the art of most of these banned op trap cards makes the nostalgia kick in i love it
@AzureLuciferZero
@AzureLuciferZero 3 жыл бұрын
Same! lol, I remember having these traps as a kid.
@harouin9263
@harouin9263 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love the old yugioh art style
@Therake2602
@Therake2602 Жыл бұрын
@@harouin9263 same . It had a mistic or feell the mistery of monster and another cards about the art.
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 3 жыл бұрын
Sixth Sense was actually a fairly early card in the OCG, and it was STILL banned when graveyard effects were extremely limited (Monster Reborn, Call of the Haunted, Premature Burial, Backup Soldier, that one dark lord that gives LP every turn if it's in your graveyard, Chaos monsters and a few others, virtually none of which gave advantage on their own *just* from being sent to the GY). Even when its (supposed) downside was harder to mitigate it was still stupidly OP. It just wasn’t released in the TCG for a decade due to being banned really quick.
@kyuubinaruto17
@kyuubinaruto17 3 жыл бұрын
Would it have been a little more balanced with a life point cost as well? Like if you call it right you take 1000 life points for every drawn card. Of course still insanely broken in the modern era where people love to mill, but I'm talking about the early days. Depending on where the game is at that could render it a dead card, or not allow you to just choose 5 and 6 every time. A few attacks or using a Solemn card would put you out of range of choosing the highest numbers, which would make it less efficient.
@oneblacksun
@oneblacksun Жыл бұрын
@@kyuubinaruto17 Unlikely, since people haven't cared about life points since like 2006. They only care about if they reach 0.
@link77779
@link77779 3 жыл бұрын
"When we only had synchro and xyz monsters in the extra deck." Fusion monsters: Am I a joke to you?
@chrisbelair5916
@chrisbelair5916 3 жыл бұрын
"Yes" --TheDuelLogs
@ebox147
@ebox147 3 жыл бұрын
Well, they pretty much were a joke at that time
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
Ritual Monsters: Bro, at least you start in the Extra Deck and don't have to be a Pendulum Monster to get there.
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, fusions were a joke lol
@abuhassan8849
@abuhassan8849 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDuelLogs Idk. Thousand-Eyes Restrict, Cyber Twin Dragon, Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, The Last Warrior from Another Planet were quite powerful fusion monsters. And those are just few examples. Fusions were great in early days of YuGiOh.
@brianwilliams6736
@brianwilliams6736 3 жыл бұрын
Top ten reasons why my family doesn't talk to me please
@yoruichixx6951
@yoruichixx6951 3 жыл бұрын
😢😢
@diegosep.4201
@diegosep.4201 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're really cool and your family sucks. Maybe it's the other way around. 😅
@vullord666
@vullord666 3 жыл бұрын
Did you play Yugioh with them as a kid and ever use mirror force, magic cylinder, or yata lock? That would do it.
@praggodey
@praggodey 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 I did so many times and got their ultra rare cards
@MrMulambo1
@MrMulambo1 3 жыл бұрын
imagine if return from the different dimension got errata'd to only work with D.D. monsters
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 3 жыл бұрын
The card could comeback to 3 and likely do nothing in its current state. Thats how terrible trap cards are.
@MrMulambo1
@MrMulambo1 3 жыл бұрын
@@luminous3558 thats what yugitubers have conditioned you to believe
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMulambo1 No lol, the card is simply not banworthy. Its a turn 3 combo starter/extender. We have way more silly cards that function on turn 1.
@MrMulambo1
@MrMulambo1 3 жыл бұрын
@@luminous3558 i think this is less of a why is this card still banned issue and more of a why arent those other cards banned issue
@BluePhoenix_
@BluePhoenix_ 3 жыл бұрын
How about D.D. And D/D monsters, since they come from the same dimension, only the D/Ds are controlled by the Different Dimension Demons.
@jeffmassicott7186
@jeffmassicott7186 3 жыл бұрын
As a MtG player, t's interesting to hear about how card advantage and resources are viewed in the context of Yugioh. I was wondering, could you do a video on the slang of yugioh? Floodgate, float, etc. It would make understanding these a lot easier
@RinaShinomiyaVal
@RinaShinomiyaVal 3 жыл бұрын
Floodgate = A continuous effect most often seen on Continuious Trap Cards and/or Monster Cards that say "Your opponent cant do X" or something to that effect. Float = When a monster dies it does X. Most often being able to Special Summon another monster to replace itself. In terms of YGO, draw cards and one card starters tend to be much more powerful bc theres no mana in YGO. So card advantage is the go to.
@DoubleZDogg
@DoubleZDogg 3 жыл бұрын
Sixth Sense draws on average 1.83 cards, so even ignoring the benefit from the milling, it's really close to a Pot of Greed on a trap card. The designers at Konami definitely didn't pass their statistics and probabilities 101 class.
@lifeispotato7804
@lifeispotato7804 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who only really got into yugioh like 3 or 4 years ago, this is one of my favorite series, especially since some cards' bans only make sense in the context where they got banned. Hopefully we also get a limited/semi-limited version eventually.
@isaiasjunior3535
@isaiasjunior3535 3 жыл бұрын
Semi Limited is Malicious's Home. Sometimes a friend that was banned or limited pass by to say hello and drink a cup of tea for one or two formats before going free.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaiasjunior3535 Malicious is probably the only card that'll stay there. It would be too good to go to 3 at this point. At least without a hard or soft once per turn attached to it and especially since more Extra Deck cards exist and more and more are coming out and it's very easy to proc it. I'm amazed at how shallow the Semi-Limited list has become over the years though. Not much really gets affected by being Semi-Limited.
@hightidekraken
@hightidekraken 3 жыл бұрын
Top ten cards that are banned but weren’t the problem card Top ten cards that search their archetypes fusion card or recycle it
@Danjo1996
@Danjo1996 3 жыл бұрын
'Top ten cards that are banned but weren't the problem' Soooo most tuners, because Needlefiber?
@hightidekraken
@hightidekraken 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danjo1996 yes
@pietrocatalano4285
@pietrocatalano4285 3 жыл бұрын
Independent Nightingale is basically responsible for monsters never having an effect to copy effects of monsters in the Graveyard, so I'd expect to see some of those monsters on the list.
@hightidekraken
@hightidekraken 3 жыл бұрын
@@pietrocatalano4285 same
@RNGHater
@RNGHater 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danjo1996 Not really, they were mostly token tuners and 1 card noodle-linkross combos. Banning halq won't unban at least 2 of the tuners (jet and o-lion) and deskbot 001 could still be banned. Banning Auroradon however... Might put both at 1 forever.
@Weareonenation303
@Weareonenation303 3 жыл бұрын
Why Sixth Sense is banned: It makes the opponent flip the table whenever the activator draws 5-6 cards. Also, a nice fact most people know about SS is that it came in the OCG many years before being imported into the TCG, you can find Sixth Sense in some GBA games.
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
Nightmare Troubadour: everyone gets 1 banned card per deck. Noob main characters: "Aw yeah, Egyptian God card time!" Joey Wheeler and Espa Roba: "Sixth Sense, lol" ... Seto Kaiba denied his Obelisk: "Pre-Errata Chaos Emperor Dragon, get wrecked nerds."
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 3 жыл бұрын
That's because the games are based more on the OCG card pool and were localized for world-wide release with that card pool.
@Subpar1224
@Subpar1224 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 which was pretty nice honestly
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947
@ceasebenjaminbeast3947 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced sixth sense would see play if it came back to 1 copy, I think it should stay banned because it's a terribly designed card lol
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceasebenjaminbeast3947 Its practically like it was designed for a different card game, like the Pokemon card game for example. I've seen cards with effects like "Draw 5 cards" in the Pokemon card game and thought before how hilariously broken they would be in Yu-Gi-Oh. EDIT: Looked up some specific examples of Pokemon cards that would be utterly broken in Yu-Gi-Oh. "Bill's Maintence": Shuffle 1 card from your Hand into the Deck, then draw 3 cards. "Hau", "Cheren", "Tierno" and "Looker": Draw 3 cards. "Cynthia" and "Professor Oak's New Theory": Shuffle your entire Hand (any number of cards) into your Deck, then Draw 6 cards. "Professor Sycamore": Discard your entire Hand (any number of cards), then draw 7 cards. "Lillie": Draw until you have 6 cards in your Hand, if this card is activated during your first turn draw until you have 8 cards in your Hand instead.
@TheDaringstDo
@TheDaringstDo 3 жыл бұрын
really enjoy looking at the history of this game through its forbidden/limited list. Its interesting to see how their ideas of restrictive effects on cards to balance them has changed over the years, and cards that they design specifically to be extremely powerful on purpose to influence the game. A series where you go over previously banned cards would be really cool.
@khananiel-joshuashimunov4561
@khananiel-joshuashimunov4561 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the old days, my friends and I played with either 2000 or 4000 life points. Pretty sure the manual said that 8000 was for beginners. We almost never used Ultimate Offering because giving up a quarter or an eighth of your life was too high a cost.
@JustLikeYou.
@JustLikeYou. 3 жыл бұрын
"i dont play competitive hearthstone because the whole design philosophy is gamble cards." and truer words have never been spoken lmao
@harrybechtle4333
@harrybechtle4333 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t play hearthstone because blizzard
@lasarousi
@lasarousi 2 жыл бұрын
That applies to literally every single TCG in existence. They're all glorified gambling.
@pastelroswell
@pastelroswell 3 ай бұрын
Weirdly enough, I enjoy both games. Probably because I'm not very competitive and get enjoyment from playing more than winning so seeing the results of random cards is entertaining to me
@fluffalpenguin
@fluffalpenguin 3 жыл бұрын
The Maxx "C" video is going to be even more amazing in the mega video (which was mentioned at the end of this one) Everything flows so smooth and then suddenly a dissertation on cockroaches.
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards that explicitly mention Forbidden cards (Baby Rulers etc.). Rank them based on how well they preform without those cards, *and* how useful they are in traditional.
@jerryriceable
@jerryriceable 2 жыл бұрын
Hbvt
@marcoceredi80
@marcoceredi80 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Sixth Sense in the second Dragon Rulers' format back in winter 2013... You most of the times called 3-4, to draw 3-4 that was still crazy or mill 5-6 that was INSANE in that deck. Good ol' memories.
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 3 жыл бұрын
Drawing 5 or 6 was still better than milling 5 or 6 in dragon rulers. Outside of lightsworn, I can't think of a deck where milling 6 would be better than drawing 6. Not even orcust and salad would want that.
@belafeldbusch3397
@belafeldbusch3397 3 жыл бұрын
When ever i see magical explosion, i hear the Emperor from Star Wars yell “UNLIMITED POWAAAA!”
@kuyagoldlink7563
@kuyagoldlink7563 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember sixth sense being like a 30 dollar common before it got banned, and as always, great video!!
@RinaShinomiyaVal
@RinaShinomiyaVal 3 жыл бұрын
Yup short print common from the Joeys World pack
@ShinMajin
@ShinMajin 3 жыл бұрын
In the olden days, I felt Ultimate Offering was kinda bad. Looking back, I can't figure out why.
@Masahane
@Masahane 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Even back then, you could just one-turn summon a Summoned Skull with Ultimate Offering
@timothykrzywonski
@timothykrzywonski 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't give you card advantage. That's what threw me off.
@skeletonwar4445
@skeletonwar4445 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothykrzywonski When I played with Ultimate Offering, I never even thought about card advantage. I just thought "Ew this card looks disgusting" and didn't use it lmao. Cause I was like, pretty much still a fetus or smth.
@MrZer093
@MrZer093 3 жыл бұрын
The issue was if your opponent responded with a board wipe, it was difficult to come back from. You can easily spam like, 3-4 1900 beaters but the game would be immediately over if they had Mirror Force or could stall a turn and whip out Dark Hole. Gradually building the board wouldn’t be punished as hard. That said, opponents very much didn’t always have a response so yeah, Offering was always a good card.
@otakotako2601
@otakotako2601 3 жыл бұрын
back in the day you can summon monsters with it during your opponent's battle phase lmao, it was stupidly good, and you can also do some stupid shit like chaining it to your opponent's trap card and summoning a jinzo from it
@thenx3952
@thenx3952 3 жыл бұрын
Did anybody else notice the dog barks towards the end or is it just me
@TailsTheFox32
@TailsTheFox32 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to comment that but I looked through to see if someone else commented it first.
@victorhugorocha7683
@victorhugorocha7683 3 жыл бұрын
Royal oppression should not return because even a slight buff to true draco is a pain in my soul
@thedancinggyrados1753
@thedancinggyrados1753 3 жыл бұрын
Slight is underestimating that errata in draco
@thedom2753
@thedom2753 3 жыл бұрын
top 10 archetypal searchers would be neat, especially to compare to how good the archetypes are overall and see how big their effect is on them
@xRevTheoryx
@xRevTheoryx 3 жыл бұрын
I remember annihilating my friends on the very first yugioh times by abusing ultimate offering and summoning a crapload of monsters on the first turns
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 2 жыл бұрын
"Hold on, did you just summon a bunch of monsters on your first turn"
@codenamePori
@codenamePori 3 жыл бұрын
"Royal oppression was banned 8 years after release." Since you already done cards got banned quickest how about the opposite ?
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure number one is Smoke Grenade of the Thief. Been out since 2001 and just got banned like a month ago.
@agata6337
@agata6337 3 жыл бұрын
up^
@cristianDominguez314
@cristianDominguez314 3 жыл бұрын
@@teddyhaines6613 2003* The YGO TCG didn't even exist in 2001
@Aloyus_Knight
@Aloyus_Knight 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 weak sauce cards that are potentially incredibly OP if used right.
@DjPyro2010
@DjPyro2010 3 жыл бұрын
None
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Ojamas?
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is basically Turn Skip cards like: Neko Mane King Probably best to bait the opponent into triggering it, but the idea of straight up skipping the entirety of your opponent's turn with cards like Dark Deal is enticing. Arcana Force XXI The World Having to work around the coin flip and reliably getting 2 tributes. I mean, not a traditionally weak card at all really - just a bit unwieldy. Pharaoh's Judgement Normal Trap support is making this card gradually more consistent - will likely never reach Utopic ZEXAL levels of viability, but still notable.
@eugenideddis
@eugenideddis 3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s the same as “situational cards”, which he did.
@r3zaful
@r3zaful 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenideddis well we saw smoke grenade suddenly being played
@Ironwill3004
@Ironwill3004 3 жыл бұрын
Top Ten “Number” Xyz monsters.
@r_thekingslayerx4352
@r_thekingslayerx4352 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, aren't there more than 100 Number monsters? So if so the list could be Top 100 & still exclude some of them, lol!
@Ironwill3004
@Ironwill3004 3 жыл бұрын
@@sagacious03 Yeah the list of “Number” monsters goes over 100, not even counting the “S” and “C” variants of cards like 39: Utopia.
@spectral5939
@spectral5939 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ironwill3004 I guess there's also the "F" card which mean "Future". But there are more than just 100 Number's but the list would be easy enough to make.
@r3zaful
@r3zaful 3 жыл бұрын
You see uhhh... shockmaster Galaxy tomahawk Rhonggobongo Well... Ranking them by tier is way better than top ten number monster. Some of them are broken as hell, some are meta and some are meh.
@diegorojas2049
@diegorojas2049 3 жыл бұрын
How about Top 10 cards that changed player behavior? Like for example how (from what I once heard) Gorz made it so that everyone attacked with their weaker monsters first, as to prevent the opponent from using Gorz to the fullest
@zachattack5691
@zachattack5691 2 жыл бұрын
I just started thinking about what a possible retrain of Sixth Sense could be. You still roll a die, but you only declare only 1 number. Then if you land on that number, you can then add a monster who has a level equal to the number you declare. If you don't land on the declared number, then you have to banish a monster of that level from your deck face down.
@zeidissaoui2908
@zeidissaoui2908 3 жыл бұрын
16:16 nice dogs barking in the background
@zaknelthepony7124
@zaknelthepony7124 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised Magic Cylinder is not on this list. I was told it had a similar effect to Pot Of Greed.
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t. Magic Cylinder deals damage when an opponent attacks and they take damage equal to the attacking monster’s attack points. Pot Of Greed lets you draw two cards from your deck.
@skeletonwar4445
@skeletonwar4445 3 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdragon168 Are you sure? I'm pretty certain that Magic Cylinder has a similar effect to Pot of Greed though.
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 3 жыл бұрын
@@skeletonwar4445 No it’s doesn’t.
@nexusshark
@nexusshark 3 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdragon168 I don't think you got the joke.
@zaknelthepony7124
@zaknelthepony7124 3 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdragon168 It was a reference to a YuGiOh article which said that.
@sageyt3743
@sageyt3743 3 жыл бұрын
I only play yugioh casually but I just listen to your vids when I go to sleep your voice is so nice mg dude
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a Top 10 on cards that force mechanics on player(s)? Cards like Evenly Matched, Ferret Flames, Share the Pain and so forth?
@thepoweroftheweed2215
@thepoweroftheweed2215 3 жыл бұрын
Number 1: Apoqliphort Towers
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 3 жыл бұрын
Yu-Jo Friendship
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 3 жыл бұрын
The most brutal abuse of Ultimate Offering is definitely the tag combo my brother and I had. Black Ptera+Cannon Soldier+Ultimate Offering=instant OTK, back in 2006. Literally Magical Scientist 2.0.
@LookNoHands_
@LookNoHands_ 2 жыл бұрын
But don't you drop to 0 before the enemy?
@wpmer
@wpmer 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 favorite cards of DuelLogs. For any reason as to why they are your favorite.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela 3 жыл бұрын
9:54 hold up, Alchemic Magician actually pinching Slacker magician's cheek??? No wonder I felt something is weird on the TCG art, so that's why.
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 3 жыл бұрын
That's downerd magician.
@BloodrealmX
@BloodrealmX 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralNickles Slacker Magician and Downerd Magician are the same character.
@maxwellbecker
@maxwellbecker 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the subscription fun fact at the end of this one, I thought it was humerous
@justcat6042
@justcat6042 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do Top 10 Fun Deck? The underrated, non-meta deck that is just super fun to play with
@kibammosortega7413
@kibammosortega7413 2 жыл бұрын
Man after hearing him talk about additional normals being broken. It makes me think of how flunder exists nowadays
@Rynjinivar
@Rynjinivar Жыл бұрын
Floo is probably the best argument for why Royal Oppression should never be unbanned.
@dimass.a1507
@dimass.a1507 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this series made me realize how manacost is a really great mechanic in a card game.
@magnaillusion6085
@magnaillusion6085 3 жыл бұрын
How to nerf Royal Oppression: "This card is unaffected by card effects from cards controlled by its owner. This face-up card cannot be removed from the field by its owner."
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 3 жыл бұрын
Hard once per turn would probably make it fine. You or your opponent would be forced to play through 1 Special Summon negate so it would be a bit more fair but could still be enough to win you the game so IDK.
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe tag on "This card can only be activated during your turn before you summon any monsters", in addition to some of Duel Log's and/or your suggestions.
@Letso-S-Relaeng
@Letso-S-Relaeng 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards whose effects change other card's effects. Top 10 monsters with a 'Cyber Dragon' effect.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 3 жыл бұрын
Retrained Sixth Sense: choose two numbers from 1-6 that add to 7. Then throw a dice. If you call it right, draw cards equal to the number of the dice. Otherwise banish face down cards from your deck equal to N+R, N being the highest number you chose and R the result of the dice.
@BmanTheChamp
@BmanTheChamp 3 жыл бұрын
I would also add: Your opponent takes no damage for the rest of the turn.
@logicallgaming
@logicallgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Sixth sense isn't once per turn, like at all. I get why it doesn't due to it's original ocg printing not coming to the tcg later, but once per turns existed at that point, so they could've added a once per turn clause which still would be broken as one is kind of all needed.
@pastelroswell
@pastelroswell 3 ай бұрын
As a player of both duel links and hearthstone it would be so fun to find which okay or even bad cards in different games would be broken in another one
@DerAstrophysikerr
@DerAstrophysikerr 3 жыл бұрын
Potentially hot take warning: I feel like Ultimate Offering might be able to come off the banlist even as it is right now. Due to it being a trap, it is simply too slow, you don't get Turn 1 advantage from it, you don't even get interruption during your opponent's turn (which is a criterion most, if not all currently played trap cards fulfill). Sure, if you make it to Turn 3 and happen to have multiple monsters in hand that need to be Normal Summoned and give tons of value from it, then it's broken. But achieving such a gamestate might already be difficult enough for the card to be balanced (since it requires an Ultimate Offering to be set Turn 1 and you to survive to Turn 3 and then you also need to have multiple monsters in hand that need to be normal summoned and then you also need to still have enough life points, albeit I guess increasing the cost of Ultimate Offering might be worth looking into). The slow, control-type decks don't need any additional normal summon, they are content with setting 5 and occasionally normaling Aleister or sometimes Ecclesia, while the combo decks want to have the strongest possible Turn 1 setup. I don't think there is any place for Ultimate Offering to fit into, at least not right now.
@IyoMaestro
@IyoMaestro 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I commented something simular. Which Decks are broken with additional Normal Summons: Combo Decks. Would they like to use the card? No, it's too slow.
@RNGHater
@RNGHater 3 жыл бұрын
Except there's enough ways of using it to your advantage. Normal summon Vanities after your opponent attempted to break your board (DRNM/Droplet). True Draco and Monarchs would probably like it too. Maybe summon D Hero plasma during your opponents turn. Summoning Amano-Iwato every turn (it's searchable with a generic r4nk). Zombie world decks literally just tribute summoning your board (see Vampire Sucker less known effect). Or Sphere mode during your opponents. So no, it probably can't come back without an errata.
@DerAstrophysikerr
@DerAstrophysikerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@RNGHater Which would require you to play a Combo Deck with Vanities AND Ultimate Offering, opening both (which are bricks) and then still making full combo. That is both incredibly unlikely and pretty weak. Let's take Drytron; they are already making Vanity's Ruler, but they set it up during their own turn and they wouldn't exactly profit from being able to do it during their opponent's turn. They'd rather have more fairies in their hand to use with e.g. Herald of Perfection. True Draco and Monarchs are too bricky, slow and weak, if this card gives them a buff (which is unlikely because it exacerbates their weaknesses), sure, whatever, they probably still won't be played. There is no advantage in summoning Plasma during the opponent's turn if it requires you to play a brick in the form of this trap. You'd rather wanna summon it during your own turn. Amano Iwato is a weird gimmick, nothing more than that. If it requires you to go into a rank 4 to search it, that is a pretty high investment which could be used to summon something more useful, especially considering hitting over 1900 Atk is not too difficult, even if you cannot activate Monster Effects. Hell, literally every Drytron can hit over it. Mystic Mine is allowed at 3 and you complain about a monster that is (almost) strictly worse? There is a different combo in the game that sees little to no play with a similar effect: Hieratic Seal of Heavenly Spheres into either Amorphage Goliath or Koaki Meiru Dragon. You just need a Link 2 and you get a Bounce and either an Extra Deck Lock or a lock on special summons of Light and Dark monsters, so less investment with similar payoff, and it sees little to no play. The Vampire Sucker "abuse" requires you to have at least 1 Zombie in hand that needs to be tribute summoned, which is again pretty bricky in a deck that already struggles with being bricky and weak against handtraps AND weak against spell and trap removal, which would also work against Ultimate Offering. Again, sphere mode is a brick. Needing to open two unsearchable bricks for such a payoff is usually simply not worth it. It makes for funny Table 500 plays, though.
@RNGHater
@RNGHater 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerAstrophysikerr Sure, but has applications that could be meta relevant. That's the whole point. Not to mention future proofing. Imagine if they make support for those. archetypes, then we might have a problem. Edit: also, makyura is no longer banned so, even with errata, there's potential to use it on your own turn.
@andreabuzzolani7205
@andreabuzzolani7205 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerAstrophysikerr yeah I agree ultimate offering is bad, too slow and situational, it could easily come off the banlist and see no meta relevant play, would see play in table 500 combos and that's it, it's just a slow bricky card that requires you to play too many normal summon to be even a little worth it.
@AndrusPr8
@AndrusPr8 2 жыл бұрын
What would happen to the game if the terms "special summon" and "normal summon" would be reversed to reflect the actual state of the game, but not changing anything else. So a card that says "special summon" would refer to the act of playing a card from your hand onto the field once per turn, while "normal summon" would be a summon that has no limitations per turn
@MartianBuddy
@MartianBuddy 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate offering was a time where special summoning was actually special and rarely happen lol.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
Now it's reversed and special is more common than normal. What a time to be alive LOL.
@EgoChip
@EgoChip 3 жыл бұрын
Royal Oppression can be fixed, by only being able to activate the card on your own turn, while you control no monsters. Then, make it so both players can only use its effect once per turn each.
@abdellahahlimine858
@abdellahahlimine858 3 жыл бұрын
nice keep the good work
@13KuriMaster
@13KuriMaster 3 жыл бұрын
How to errata these cards to take them off the ban-list. 1) Make the downside banish the cards face-down instead of sending them to the GY, and delay the upside to your next end phase while changing how much you draw to till you have X many cards in your hand instead of drawing X number of cards. 2) Maybe the downside should be to banish your entire field (face-down) instead of just the summoned monsters. That way even when using the summoned monsters as material won't allow you to ditch the downside of this card and if you fail to OTK, your field will be wide open for an enemy attack. 3) I was thinking to give this card either a hard or soft once per turn as well. 4) I like what you suggested here.... we'll just go with that. 5/6) Hmm, cut the damage from the burn one in half, and make it so it banished the spells in the GY as a cost, and either increase what the LP difference should be for the second one to activate, or increase what it makes your LP equal to... or both.
@saiyan_princestudios9790
@saiyan_princestudios9790 2 жыл бұрын
I think we can fix sixth sense: erreta make the second effect to be your opponent draws the number of cards if called wrong. We already have that draw 2 coin toss card and it’s balanced by you might give your opponent the draws. You being able to draw more is balanced by your opponent having better odds of winning the ability to draw.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's interesting. It punishes the user for being too greedy calling for a 5 or 6.
@melffyrabby1009
@melffyrabby1009 3 жыл бұрын
Konami is to scared to ban any of the melffys because they will come back to haunt them!
@WeskintimeASVAL679-89
@WeskintimeASVAL679-89 3 жыл бұрын
SACRED BEASTS WOULD LIKE TO PET THE MELFFYS
@BloodrealmX
@BloodrealmX 3 жыл бұрын
Melffy Rabby is the one true ruler of Ojama Country and Konami knows it.
@iCthtflykid
@iCthtflykid 3 жыл бұрын
You brought me back to the blackwing days with oppression!
@IkanaMaskedMan
@IkanaMaskedMan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember i lost the final Match in a "last chance" tournament against Blackwings because he activated royal oppresion... I was playing darkworld and felt bad... Good times
@videodruggie
@videodruggie 3 жыл бұрын
This question is mostly for those who played the ocg, as well as the tcg. How does the ocg compare to the tcg. Would you say it is better or worst, or just about the same as the tcg
@dancostello4872
@dancostello4872 3 жыл бұрын
@@toya618 That last sentence is the single best summation of the OCG I've ever seen.
@bernardoferrero9647
@bernardoferrero9647 3 жыл бұрын
Tcg Incel: combo format Chad Ocg:Reject combo return to monke I had to make this shity joke
@CaptainJLinebeck
@CaptainJLinebeck 2 жыл бұрын
Main difference is that Maxx "C" is unbanned which does make people more wary of doing combo plays, but on the other hand Mystic Mine is banned
@ramihrduswi1646
@ramihrduswi1646 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is that UO is even a meta card in 2002 YK format. Like the fact that it was ever unlimited is actually insane
@darthcalanil5333
@darthcalanil5333 3 жыл бұрын
"ygo doesn't have competitive gambling cards" Meanwhile in duel links: MISS JUDGE!
@adamismail2883
@adamismail2883 3 жыл бұрын
Cup Of Ace too
@SuperGoker64
@SuperGoker64 3 жыл бұрын
I actually just realized another combo that may explain why Ultimate Offering is banned. It involves two or more copies of Spring of Rebirth along with either Honest or Dark Honest. The idea is that you have UO and multiple copies of SoR activated, then Normal Summon your monster. You then use the monster's effect to return it to your hand. The copies of SoR activate, giving you 500 LP per copy. You then use UO's effect to re-Summon your monster, starting the loop anew. Assuming your opponent can't do anything about it, you can theoretically get infinite LP this way.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't thought of SoR since I played it decades ago in GBA when it used to give LP PER monster returned. It's ridiculous with Guardian Sphinx deck.
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 3 жыл бұрын
1. Can you do the OCG banned cards? 2. Can you do a duel against a friend online where you only use banned cards? reverse banlist where the limited are semi-limited & vice-versa? 3. Can you do a video on custom erratas? like custom cards, but errataing pre-existing cards, like making Uria Divine Attribute Divine Beast? 4. Can you do a video on custom Divine Attribute cards? ex. Olympus Trio(XYZ-3 level 10s), Trimutri(Ritual-3 monsters that add up to at least level 10), Sanxing(Link 8- exactly 3 monsters) 5. Can you cover the bandai cards & game?
@MatthewMoss1
@MatthewMoss1 3 жыл бұрын
i kinda like gambles cards, i think the extra factor is a lot of fun and can make it more intense and fun. Your own cards could win you the game or lose it right then and there
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 Жыл бұрын
If we gonna have shuffled decks then I think cards with some uncertainty to them would be quite nice.
@tristindurocher-batley4780
@tristindurocher-batley4780 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing your videos of past banned cards since some cards currently seem broken with newer support coming out when they got limited yet still have the potential to be broken
@UncrownedKing17
@UncrownedKing17 3 жыл бұрын
did anyone else hear the dogs near the end of the video?
@brandol75
@brandol75 3 жыл бұрын
Sixth sense can have removes the mill and the declare, but for every card draw it's 1 draw phase skip and hard once per turn. Return from the different dimension can also make it to cannot those monsters activate their effect this turn and you can only summon one extra deck category from your extra deck (for example if your extra deck use link, fusion and synchro you can only link, synchro or fusion summon this turn). Ultimate offering can get errata where it prevent from a normal summoned monster to activate it's effect in order to use offering's additional normal summon.
@lorenzo1412
@lorenzo1412 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a video about overpowered cards in Duel links, just saying
@SryBut
@SryBut 2 жыл бұрын
My idea for "Royal Oppression" is, that you can only activate this card, during youu Standby Phase.
@pedro-w9i9n
@pedro-w9i9n 3 жыл бұрын
floodgates should be continuous spells with the extravagance clause, as in you must activate in the start of your main phase 1, so you can only play 1 per turn and must play under it
@murloc_rampage3856
@murloc_rampage3856 2 жыл бұрын
Sixth Sense Fixed Effect: ("This card can only be activated during your turn") Declare 2 numbers from 1 to 6 and roll a die. If the result is that number then draw 2 cards, however you cannot activate spell or trap cards for the rest of the turn. Otherwise, remove from play the top four cards of your deck facedown, take 3000 points of damage and you cannot special summon monsters until then end of your next turn's Main Phase 1. Gives draw power potential at the cost of spell or trap cards afterwards while also stopping more sixth sense from being used in succession unless it is a wrong roll. The drawback can not only lock your out of pieces in most decks, inflicts massive damage and locks special summons making this a real gamble. On fail it allows another sixth sense to be played but if that one succeeds now you can't special summon, use spells or use traps for the rest of the turn. With it being a trap it can only be activated turn 3 or 4 at the earliest meaning the non special summoning could really be bad which is the point.
@ThatAlchemistGuy
@ThatAlchemistGuy 3 жыл бұрын
For your return from the different dimension fixes..I'd still play it in my shiranui/gren maju deck. Revive the shiranui synchros, and if a few get banished face down, they just builds maju up more. Need more general banishment support fr
@Evil_Librarian
@Evil_Librarian 3 жыл бұрын
i'd love royal oppression for true draco, but man does it sound like a bad idea
@reynoldszelaya4559
@reynoldszelaya4559 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who heard dogs barking in the background at 16:25?
@peekay120
@peekay120 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use RftDD in my xyz dragon cannon turbo deck way back in the day along with dimension fusion and soul release, RftDD was insanely underrated, it was actually surprising how long it took konami to ban it
@zaknelthepony7124
@zaknelthepony7124 6 ай бұрын
Hey, DuelLogs. You introduced me to Ledger of Legerdemain with this video. And I use it all the time in stall decks. It sees decent success. Especially in Crooked Cook stall-forever strategies. Think about that as you say that Sixth Sense could be fixed by adding this same restriction.
@charstar2808
@charstar2808 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who only played in "the early days" of the game, I would be interested to see a "top 10 cards that would break the early meta" list. Or something to that affect. Obviously mechanics like link and pendulum and xyz that didn't exist in the ~2003 era wouldn't work because their mechanics didn't exist. Also, if you already have that video, could you direct me to it? You have a lot of videos.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, like a "10 Cards today that aren't op that would break the early meta" video? That does sound interesting, haven't seen such a video though.
@totallynotkyle4245
@totallynotkyle4245 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t play constructed hearthstone” Wait so do you play arena?
@Brazz27
@Brazz27 3 жыл бұрын
He plays BGs a lot (he said so on his stream)
@sgater5213
@sgater5213 2 жыл бұрын
maybe sixth sense: if you call correctly reveal that many cards from the top of your deck and either: - add 1 card to your hand - special summon 1 of the monster cards - activate 1 of the spell/trap cards shuffle the rest back to your deck. if you call wrong: - shuffle back card(s) from your field and/or hand to your deck so that the remaining number of cards on you field and hand is less or equal to the rolled number
@sladewilson1509
@sladewilson1509 Жыл бұрын
Bold move to describe a core design philosophy, of a game you dont play. As a yugioh/mtg/hearthstone/pokemon player, i gotta say. Yugioh is way more dependant on RNG (than hearthstone), because how crucial opening hands are.
@Kaylersick
@Kaylersick 3 жыл бұрын
as a degenerate madolche player i have used m-x saber invoker and ultimate offering in the past and yes i want to use them again. even if they only rereleased a retrain that made you pay 1k and was once per turn i would use it since it is a continus trap. also normal summon on opponents turn is always nice.
@AlexTCGProYT
@AlexTCGProYT 2 жыл бұрын
"The potential to summon up to 5 monsters with just one card is just too much". Getting pendulum flashbacks when it was common to summon 5 monsters every single turn with just two cards.
@madnessoverload7824
@madnessoverload7824 3 жыл бұрын
The rules: Banished cards are removed from play forever. Konami: "Well, yes, but actually no"
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
First GY becomes 2nd field, then banish basically becomes a 3rd field. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd eventually allow monsters in the hand to perform battle. Imagine if you can Mind of the Plana in the TCG/OCG though. That shit would be hilarious.
@Slayerthecrow
@Slayerthecrow 3 жыл бұрын
I would like more cards like sixth sense specially because the last way of gamble cards are essentially search another gamble card or loose the duel.
@mutaharyourmomisinmyharema1373
@mutaharyourmomisinmyharema1373 3 жыл бұрын
"Gambling is why i don't play competitive Hearthstone" Says someone that never saw DH and other aggro decks...
@MrZer093
@MrZer093 3 жыл бұрын
I very much eagerly await those additional banlist videos, especially the history ones!
@Sharpndbuttrfly
@Sharpndbuttrfly 3 жыл бұрын
DuelLog vids give me that excitement similar to when I was a kid waking up Saturday mornings watching cartoons and then Saturday night watching toonami at the same time
@windinthewillow1871
@windinthewillow1871 3 жыл бұрын
The effect of sixth sense should be as follows: "you draw cards equal to the number thrown, but you cannot use those cards for x turns, where x is the number thrown."
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
So if you draw six, you have to wait six turns to use any of those cards and they'll just clog your hand unless you discard them?
@windinthewillow1871
@windinthewillow1871 2 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabiznes33 ye
@jumbonumbers975
@jumbonumbers975 3 жыл бұрын
I use this channel when I want to fall asleep your voice is soothing
@SaintSentry
@SaintSentry 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Offering can't get an errata because it already got one. Offering's first text: "At the cost of 500 Life Points per monster, a player is allowed an extra Normal Summon or Set." Offering's latest text: "During your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can pay 500 Life Points; immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 monster." The original card did not mention the clause that it could only be used during your MP or your opponent's BP. That was its errata.
@louc.6735
@louc.6735 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately thought "with your changes to royal oppression, you'd just play it in monarchs or true draco."
@necroneuronz456
@necroneuronz456 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate offerings combo, best in my opinion, is as followed, have ultimate offerings on tne board, and a mysterious puppeteer on the board too. With black Petra and cannon solider in hand, use ultimate offerings to summon cannon solider you lose 500 but gain 500 thx to the puppeteer. Repeat for black Petra then use cannon solider to sac the Petra causing 500 to the opponent and black Petra to return to your hand. I used to love this combo, once the banned ultimate offerings I stopped as the first deck I created without looking at the internet got damaged.
@MasterofLaziness
@MasterofLaziness 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there was something weird about Sixth Sense being released in 2013, so I did some research. It was in the games as early as 2006, but was not a physical card until 2013. Alternate effect idea: it could make it so that you choose one, draw half that many rounded up, and banish the full count facedown for being wrong. "...when we only had synchro and xyz monsters." I played when it was called a Fusion Deck, which seems to be a monster type that is forgotten or ignored. The early ones were as useful as level 5 vanilla monsters, but getting, say, Flame Swordsman on turn 1 was a big deal back then. And though the archetype was a gimmick then, Heroes made you remember it before level math was a necessity. "It can lock you out of the extra deck." So another card that lets Monarchs go brrr, assuming they become good enough to matter again. Royal Oppression seems to be banned for the same reason as Vanity's Emptiness, the latter of which should have been banned a long time before it was.
@wickedstoner29
@wickedstoner29 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Ultimate Offering first came out; not a lot of duelists used it because back in the day the max LP was 2000. Which then went to 4000, then eventually 8000. In between the middle of 5D's and the beginning of Zexal (I think), Ultimate Offering became a SUPER BROKEN STAPLE for at least 90% of all decks during that timeframe. Now that Link monters are around, I can see why it remains locked in it's cage
@ugh5880
@ugh5880 3 жыл бұрын
It has always been 8000 LP in the TCG/OCG. 2000-4000 LP is just an Anime/Manga/Video-Game thing.
@ziadnabil403
@ziadnabil403 3 жыл бұрын
It is as slow as a crippled snail lol it could come to 3 and no one will play it
@kiryustrife7563
@kiryustrife7563 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I think of a way to get back banned cards, I remember what they did to Chaos Emperor Dragon and I prefer to see them banned instead of shitting on them
@oojikarasuma1
@oojikarasuma1 2 жыл бұрын
The way he talks reminds me of another youtuber called spirit of the law from age of empire. His voice is quite soothing
@NirvanaFG45
@NirvanaFG45 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video about the best main deck monsters that can be special summoned?
@romram7984
@romram7984 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but i always liked chicken games artwork. Just the fact the car is going to drive off the cliff and you just get a really close up shot of the monster driving it sweating. I wonder if it's meant to be the person who has the card in their deck since the chance of it getting destroyed (atleast whenever i used it in the games) is pretty likely
@user-fo6oz5tg7v
@user-fo6oz5tg7v 3 жыл бұрын
Broo nice work as always. I am here just to tell you huge thanks for all this eford to make this awesome videos. Huge respect!
@TheMasaMume
@TheMasaMume 3 жыл бұрын
my idea to return of a different dimension fix was ":Pay half your Life points, Special summon as many of you banished monsters as possible The effects of monster cards summoned this turn are negated. During your End Phase, banish all monsters you control face down"
@net173h
@net173h 3 жыл бұрын
9:20 Brilliant fusion was also banned because it gave you two link materials for free, which definitely did contribute to its ban for the most part.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 3 жыл бұрын
The real tipping point of Brilliant Fusion was that it was part of some FTK.
@net173h
@net173h 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 any generic extender has potential to be used in an FTK
@BigBrownMemes
@BigBrownMemes 3 жыл бұрын
Fix for Sixth Sense: -Call one number (1-6) -Correct call, draw that many cards, show your opponent, you may not activate any effects the turn you use this card -Wrong call, lose the same amount of life points times 2000 to punish calling 4-5-6 -add hard once per turn
@kookou13
@kookou13 Жыл бұрын
Yup watching opponent always win the rng luck factor while you never ever do is a part of my entire life beyond six sense.
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