First Time Watching!!! Zulu (1964) Amazing Movie!! (Reaction)

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First Time Watching!!! Zulu (1964) Amazing Movie!! (Reaction)
Join me as I react to the movie Zulu that tells the story of the Battle of Rorke's Drift in January 1879 during Anglo-Zulu War where 150 British soldiers held off 4,000 Zulu warriors.
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@spritbong5285
@spritbong5285 Жыл бұрын
The family of Private Henry Hook were extremely upset about the film portrayal of him. He was in fact, a model soldier who deserved his VC, not a workshy malingerer.
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 Жыл бұрын
The film portrayed Hook as not only a malingerer, but also a drunk. He was in fact teetotal, and a firm supporter of the 'Temperance Movement', and would never touch a drop of alcohol.
@alantyrrell
@alantyrrell Жыл бұрын
I'm related to Henry hook. He was my grandfather's grandfather.
@willowwookie9614
@willowwookie9614 Жыл бұрын
I read that they went overboard to portray the zulus with respect and dignity and saddened to hear that they didn't do the same to victoria cross recipient private henry hook.
@kaiser5344
@kaiser5344 Жыл бұрын
He was also a standout character and for what it is worth my favourite character in the film, artistic license allowing, I think we all love Hookey
@Biggus63
@Biggus63 Жыл бұрын
@@kaiser5344 He was fun but for me Colour Sergeant Bourne steals the show.
@top40researcher31
@top40researcher31 Жыл бұрын
One of this movie's technical advisors was a Zulu Princess, and the tribe's historian. She knew the battle strategy perfectly, and drew it on the sand. Director Cy Endfield shot it exactly as she drew it.
@martindunstan8043
@martindunstan8043 Жыл бұрын
Nice back story there, I've seen this great film countless times but didn't know that 👍
@2eleven48
@2eleven48 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, drawing it on the sand, very precise. Yes, I can see the battle strategy perfectly, even after 85 years have passed. And what is that little back thing there? Ah, a dung beetle. Never mind, we'll shoot it exactly as you drew it. We wouldn't know otherwise.
@zaftra
@zaftra Жыл бұрын
@@2eleven48 pretty sure that would be the initial description.
@dallasknight4854
@dallasknight4854 Жыл бұрын
@@2eleven48 🤡
@bennybaqschlap1537
@bennybaqschlap1537 Жыл бұрын
I wish I was you 😎
@Chipchase780
@Chipchase780 Жыл бұрын
For me the advancing kneeling and standing ranks reloading and firing scene was one of the most memorable of the film. It showed how effective disciplined soldiers and tactics could be against terrifyingly overwhelming odds.
@gerhardadler3418
@gerhardadler3418 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this and the scene where the zulu start singing to honor the british.
@kevinadamson5768
@kevinadamson5768 4 ай бұрын
Trooping the colour today is based on this. 😊
@Jcdaking81
@Jcdaking81 2 күн бұрын
@@gerhardadler3418 that never happened in RL tho it was added for dramatic effect
@davidbell864
@davidbell864 Жыл бұрын
Epitome of discipline and courage. Epic portrayal of British military tradition and the reason why the Brits fight above their weight in every conflict. Magnificent film.
@davidcorrie4794
@davidcorrie4794 Жыл бұрын
And British colonial brutality it happened all over the world during the time of the British empire
@maskedavenger2578
@maskedavenger2578 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcorrie4794Woke Blurt !
@davedave3749
@davedave3749 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcorrie4794 shaaddapp
@motohobo
@motohobo Жыл бұрын
​@@davidcorrie4794give it a rest, mate. No more brutal than the Romans, Khan, Spanish, Portuguese, French etc etc. And a lot less brutal than some.
@simongray2533
@simongray2533 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcorrie4794 Yeah, also built schools for the locals, halted some of the barbaric, local customs and ended slavery across the Empire and, later the majority of the Western world and (according to a Japanese study) produced (if memory serves) around 70% of all significant inventions so, y' know.........swings and roundabouts! 🤣🤣
@KevinBradshaw1972
@KevinBradshaw1972 Жыл бұрын
The last British survivor of this battle, Frank Bourne, died on the 9th May 1945. The day after World War II ended in Europe. He was portrayed by Nigel Green in the film.
@martindunstan8043
@martindunstan8043 Жыл бұрын
Great fact👍
@nicksykes4575
@nicksykes4575 Жыл бұрын
At the time he was 25, the youngest Colour Sargent in the British Army. He chose a commission instead of a VC, and rose to the rank of Lt Colonel.
@safebox36
@safebox36 Жыл бұрын
Man wanted to live long enough to end another conflict 😂.
@mike5d1
@mike5d1 Жыл бұрын
@@nicksykes4575 No, actually Bourne was offered a battlefield commission but refused it because he couldn't afford the lifestyle of an officer. He was commissioned later in his career and he was never recommended for the VC, he was awarded either a DSC or DSM, I can't remember which.
@jayjay-71
@jayjay-71 Жыл бұрын
My Mrs moms great great great uncle was in Rorkes Drift his surname was hook, he won the V.C, its in a museum in wales I believe
@Glund117
@Glund117 Жыл бұрын
All the Zulus in the film are actual Zulus not actors
@richardwest6358
@richardwest6358 Жыл бұрын
And the person playing the Zulu King is an actual decendant in real life.
@tobytaylor2154
@tobytaylor2154 Жыл бұрын
​@@richardwest6358with his wrist watch on lol
@phillipjohngreenslade1333
@phillipjohngreenslade1333 Жыл бұрын
Michael Caine is Welsh.
@dib000
@dib000 Жыл бұрын
@@phillipjohngreenslade1333 No he is not.
@marksadler4104
@marksadler4104 Жыл бұрын
​@@phillipjohngreenslade1333Michael Caine is from London, Stanley Baker was from Wales
@ironside210
@ironside210 Жыл бұрын
My favourite war movie of all time. Bravery, Discipline and Respect all around. And introducing Michael Caine. What a film!
@kevinwhitmill2599
@kevinwhitmill2599 Жыл бұрын
I never tire of this film and have seen it many times. I served in a Royal Engineer Regiment which celebrated the centenary of Rorke's Drift, particularly as three of the Regiment's Squadrons were serving together for the first time since the Zulu wars. True to military fashion we were ordered to parade in the evening and were then marched to the gymnasium and 'forced' to watch ZULU on a large screen. No one complained.
@Mark_Bickerton
@Mark_Bickerton Жыл бұрын
Private Henry Hook VC was not the waster he was portrayed to be in the movie. He was an honest, decent man of good moral standing, fully deserving of his Victoria Cross!
@kingspeechless1607
@kingspeechless1607 Жыл бұрын
Moral standing is irrelevant when it comes to Victoria Crosses
@Mark_Bickerton
@Mark_Bickerton Жыл бұрын
@@kingspeechless1607 I know, but the film portrayed him as a bit of a scumbag which, given he was a real person is rather uncharitable I would say! edit, I've just re-read my original comment and I can see how I might have given that impression. Forgive me, I should have proof read it before I posted it!
@Maria-ef5gq
@Maria-ef5gq 11 ай бұрын
The Zulus were Very BRAVE . Running Into gunfire with spears
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
And there's me thinking ultimately they portray Hook as a brave soldier who becomes a hero. He's not portrayed as a scumbag. More loveable rogue and comic relief.
@josephturner7569
@josephturner7569 Жыл бұрын
Despite there being a number of inaccuracies, this is one of the greatest movies in British history. The CSM was the youngest in the army and died on VE day.
@FLashman-cv5dn
@FLashman-cv5dn Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons the British stayed put at Rorke's Drift was that the Zulu were extremely mobile and had they retreated it is more than likely they would have caught up with them. Hindered with the Wagons and the sick and injured they would have been cut to pieces in the open. They had a fighting chance defending the post.
@Plymouth888
@Plymouth888 Жыл бұрын
"Extremely Mobile" is putting it mildly.A Zulu Impi had impressive mobility.
@pauldurkee4764
@pauldurkee4764 Жыл бұрын
They can thank James Langley Dalton for that. The officers were considering evacuation, Dalton was the most experienced soldier on the station, having served in the infantry before he joined the commissariat. He also organised the building of the barricades, he never gets the recognition he deserves.
@johnlewis9158
@johnlewis9158 Жыл бұрын
Also hold until relieved was drummed into the British soldier meaning you held your ground no matter what. Indeed the Zulu's themselves were very impressed by the way the British soldiers fought and died line abreast at the battle of Isandlwana. Not one British soldier so said the Zulu's took a backward step
@simongray2533
@simongray2533 Жыл бұрын
@@pauldurkee4764 Yeah I follow a KZfaq channel called "Red Coat History" and when he covered the battle of Rourke's Drift he made a point of stating the Dalton was tough, experienced soldier. Nothing like the slightly camp character portrayed in the film.
@susanlockyer1192
@susanlockyer1192 6 ай бұрын
The Zulu King's brother commanded the warriors - the King ordered him - do not cross the river & attack Rorke's Drift' - Rorke's Drift was on the Natal side of the river, not the Zulu side
@leftin74
@leftin74 Жыл бұрын
An Aussie that I used to work with had served with the Australian army in Vietnam. He told me that during training they watched this film. And no it wasn’t about shooting down natives armed with spears, it was about discipline and obeying orders. It’s how some 17000 or so members of the roman army defeated 200000 celts at the battle of Watling Street. It’s why the mob break ranks and run when charged by the police.
@AleisterCrowley.
@AleisterCrowley. 9 ай бұрын
Whatever comes out of those gates, if we stick together, we survive.
@kevinadamson5768
@kevinadamson5768 4 ай бұрын
It's called holding the line. 😊
@truckerfromreno
@truckerfromreno Жыл бұрын
One of the best films of all time. Men of Harlech is fantastic.
@BlueShadow777
@BlueShadow777 Жыл бұрын
The ‘train’ sound of the zulus is not their footsteps… it’s the beating of the spears on their shields.
@denysmace3874
@denysmace3874 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how many times I've seen this film, but I'm not ashamed to say that every time I see the part with the ranks of soldiers keeping up continuous fire I cry. It never fails to shock me.
@tomhaskett5161
@tomhaskett5161 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing this film as a child when it came out. The scene you mention was impressive - the camera pulls back and you see all the dead zulus. The whole cinema audience was completely silent for a short while at that point.
@LordEriolTolkien
@LordEriolTolkien Жыл бұрын
The natives in this film were actual Zulus who knowingly helped recreate the events. I think the closing chant given by the tribesmen before they departed was one acknowledging the valour of the British defenders. A warrior to warrior mark of respect
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 Жыл бұрын
It's a terrific scene, just as the earlier one where the two armies sing to each other, but alas, not true. There were absolutely no accounts of these incidences from any of the survivors. And historians now think the zulus only left Rorke's Drift because a British relief force was marching in.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 Жыл бұрын
@@justinchetham-strode5234 The Zulus that crossed the river did so under the command of a Prince, and he exceeded his orders, invading foreign territory (and breaking treaties) by crossing the river. He had been forbidden to do it, so that any fighting would always be the British attacking another sovereign nation with whom the British had treaties. Rorke's Drift, or KwaJim as the Zulus knew it, was more important than this film or most histories care to mention, as it removes the fact that the British and South Africans attacked the Zulus, intending to wipe them out, and broke their own agreements, trading and political.
@JaEDLanc
@JaEDLanc Жыл бұрын
They didn’t salute the British like it was portrayed in the film, they walked off dejected. After the battle the work for the 24th wasn’t finished has they had to bury the dead Zulu’s .
@Reaper08
@Reaper08 Жыл бұрын
@@stevetheduck1425 Aw, the slavers that massacred dozens of tribes in their expansion across south east Africa were going to be put down? How sad.
@ianphillips9455
@ianphillips9455 Жыл бұрын
@@Reaper08 You do know that Africans sold their own people to all slavers and the Arabs had been taking slaves for a 10000 years? and that the "First" Empires where in Africa and the Middle East and slavery was common all over the world until the British ended it for everyone. you really should try and educate yourself before making yourself look silly.
@gabriel4596
@gabriel4596 Жыл бұрын
"Zulu Dawn" with Peter O'Toole and Burt Lancaster shot a decade later is a worthy prequel to Zulu and worth a watch. Not as good as Zulu but they upped the budget and the battle scenes are spectacular.
@vomgrady
@vomgrady Жыл бұрын
My uncle was in that movie. We played with real Zulu shields and spears when he came back from filming. It was a strange moment watching your uncle die on screen when you are a kid.
@harrymelad942
@harrymelad942 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't happy when Billy Casper got stabbed - come on Kes! Ha ha.
@ltsecomedy2985
@ltsecomedy2985 Жыл бұрын
It covers the bigger battle Isandlwana, the aftermath of which was shown at the beginning of this film.
@pauldurkee4764
@pauldurkee4764 Жыл бұрын
@@vomgrady That is very cool, I bet he had some great anecdotes from the filming, what part did he play in the film?
@vomgrady
@vomgrady Жыл бұрын
@@pauldurkee4764 He played Lt. Coghill. He is holding the flag when he gets shot. He had a great time out there with Burt and the Zulus.
@pauls.arts.and.craft.
@pauls.arts.and.craft. Жыл бұрын
Two of the lead actors in this Nigel Green (the Sargent) and Stanley Baker (the officer in charge) both died relatively young. Baker at 48 and Green at 47.....both were well established British actors having been in multiple big movies....Baker a Welsh man himself, was instrumental in making his movie!
@RBS.23
@RBS.23 11 ай бұрын
Stanley Baker also owned Lt. Chard's Victoria Cross, which is now in the Imperial War Museum. I have seen it at the VC exhibition the museum had and when you see it, it's not very remarkable in itself; it's knowing the history of how and why it's there which makes it so astounding.
@safebox36
@safebox36 Жыл бұрын
This film was surprisingly praised at the time for its depiction of the Zulu. Like most films at the time would have shown the soldiers in a positive light, and nowadays they might have shown the Zulu as the heroes. But the film protrays neither as bad or good people; just people fighting in a conflict. The soldiers are scared of what the Zulu are capable of, and the Zulu are scared of what the British will do to their home.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Жыл бұрын
The prequel "Zulu Dawn" essentially does the same thing. The real villain of Zulu Dawn of course is Chelmsford and not the Zulus.
@TransoceanicOutreach
@TransoceanicOutreach Жыл бұрын
' the Zulu are scared of what the British will do to their home' - yes, they were scared the British would make them stop slavery and massacring the surrounding tribes, which is why they were at war.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
That is not why they were at war. Don’t even imagine that.
@neilandfi
@neilandfi Жыл бұрын
@@davidwoolbright3675 I agree. It was a pure expansionist move on a pretext by the British. It might be true to say that the Zulus were warlike, but wtf...They didn't travel half way around the World to invade someone else's homeland. It was hardly a peacekeeping mission.
@safebox36
@safebox36 Жыл бұрын
@@TransoceanicOutreach that's not at all why we were there...the two primary causes of the war were we wanted to expand territory further, and we wanted the Zulus to provide men (either their own or slaves) to work mines in South Africa; both dialogues went nowhere, and Chelmsford got cocky after being ordered in by Lord Frere Zulus did have slaves, almost every African civilisation did, it was part of war culture for most of the world. That's not why we went to war with them though, we didn't care squat about that so long as we got some juicy diamonds
@fletcherf69
@fletcherf69 Жыл бұрын
Learn you’re history young man.I’m so proud to be British 🇬🇧💪
@BarbaraGrosvenor
@BarbaraGrosvenor Жыл бұрын
Eleven Victoria Crosses were awarded in the Battle of Roukes Drift. The highest honour in the British Military.
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 Жыл бұрын
It was a political decision to award so many VCs at once (there have never been so many awarded in one action, before or since), largely to compensate for the massive defeat at Isandlwana, and to hearten and encourage the troops. I don't mean to suggest that the medals weren't all earned, or to devalue them in some way, but there are dozens of real stories of British acts of heroism in war which weren't rewarded with a VC, in some cases quite unbelievably. As for the film, I find it quite modern in its outlook; there is no suggestion of racist bias towards the British, and in the few incidences where a white person speaks disparagingly about Africans he is put right in no uncertain terms.
@Muckylittleme
@Muckylittleme Жыл бұрын
You have to winder why all the survivors weren't awarded.
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 Жыл бұрын
@@Muckylittleme They're notoriously stingy when handing out VCs, and you wouldn't believe the stories of some who were not considered quite heroic enough for the top gong.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 Жыл бұрын
@@justinchetham-strode5234 The soldier who does his duty exceptionally well and survives does not win the VC. It needs to be witnessed by others who will be believed, AND has to be 'put up' for a VC by the soldiers' commander, AND it has to survive the test of 'have the Brigade of Guards been given the same number of VCs or not' test, as in the Falklands and other conflicts. It was awarded to any soldier, officer or 'other rank', who made a single or sustained action or actions that far exceeded even that courage normally expected of a British Soldier in the furtherance of duties. It's actually really hard to do that, have an Officer see what you did, and also survive.
@usgreth
@usgreth Жыл бұрын
@@justinchetham-strode5234 They will only get stingier, there's only so many medals they can make out of that one single cannon the medals are made from. A distant relative of mine won his VC in the boer wars, twenty years after this, I wonder if he "did enough" to be considered nowadays.
@ianwelburn5158
@ianwelburn5158 Жыл бұрын
Two soldiers from this battle are buried in Philips Park Cemetery in Manchester U K . One of them a VC holder, both died in abject poverty and are buried in Paupers Graves. They were finally given a headstone by the War Graves Commission during the 1980s.
@bepolite6961
@bepolite6961 Жыл бұрын
I am very proud to say, this was my fathers Regiment. My dad took me to see it when it premiered in the Garrison Cinema. If you have never seen a hundred plus Welsh squaddies standing on their seats and singing Men of Harlech at the top of their voices? You do not know what you have missed. You can guess what game was played during play time in the Garrison School. Lets just say it was very hard getting any of the lads to be the Zulus, we must have re enacted the redoubt volley scene a million times. Long time ago now, but I still remember it like it was yesterday, just like I remember him taking me to the Garrison Tailor for my first pair of long trousers!
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 Жыл бұрын
The "sing-off" was the most awesome part of the movie. If it didn't really happen, it should have.
@Jessy-cs1jz
@Jessy-cs1jz Жыл бұрын
it was mostly English troops of the 24th / 2nd Warwickshire regiment ..... 49 English , 32 Welsh , 16 Irish , 1 Scot
@bluecard009
@bluecard009 Жыл бұрын
@@dougearnest7590 Stanley Baker had bought the rights and made it into a Weish propaganda piece, as at that stage as @jessy-cs1jz says they weren't a Welsh Regiment. Then again, feature films aren't documentaries so it doesn't really matter, if it helps the entertainment.
@baf_mcnab3065
@baf_mcnab3065 Жыл бұрын
@@Jessy-cs1jz Yup, my family mostly served in the Warwicks during WW II. Even though I have Welsh heritage, I still see the defense of Rorke's drift as a fantastic British thing.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
You can be accurate and entertaining at the same time.
@TheCardiffgirl
@TheCardiffgirl Жыл бұрын
I saw this in the cinema when it came out with my three younger brothers. The sound system was good and the screen was big. It was terrifying and has remained one of my favourite movies. The captured spears and shields were on display in a small garrison museum in the welsh valleys. Fascinating stuff.
@bepolite6961
@bepolite6961 Жыл бұрын
My dads Regiment, the trophies use to hang from the walls in the Sergeants Mess. Us kids dare not touch them. The big event of the year was the Regimental Rorkes Drift Ball. Held on every Anniversary of the battle. I have a photograph of my late Mother in her Evening Gown and my late father in his Mess Dress, posing for it to be taken just before leaving our house. Hard to believe they were both in their early thirties then, my eyes always get warm and wet whenever I get it out to look at. Miss you mam and dad.
@robertwilliams9234
@robertwilliams9234 Жыл бұрын
The museum is in Brecon
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 Жыл бұрын
I was 10 years old when I went to see it and has stood the test of time and no CGI which makes more realistic .
@chanabhaji2726
@chanabhaji2726 Жыл бұрын
There are two Michael Caine quotes that always make me chuckle from Zulu "You have got to stop throwing those bloody spears!" From the Italian job " You're only meant to blow the bloody doors! Off!" He is a national treasure. There's a captured shield in Carlisle castle's regimental museum. Unike the Alamo we don't go on and on about it. Stiff upper lip, we just carry on!
@Oligodendrocyte139
@Oligodendrocyte139 Жыл бұрын
@@chanabhaji2726Wasn’t the “Stop chucking. Those ruddy spears. At me.” A Paul Whitehouse take off 😊
@buddyhek
@buddyhek Жыл бұрын
Private Robert Jones VC is buried in my village churchyard, he commited suicide a few years after the battle. He was one of the men who helped the wounded out of the hospital.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
my family lost a few in the later Boer wars
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 11 ай бұрын
Several of the surviving soldiers from this action went on to either take their own lives, or suffer serious mental health issues. Sadly, at the time, mental health was neither really understood, nor given much sympathy......
@gwaptiva
@gwaptiva Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest movies ever made. It's why you see so much that looks "very modern"; this is Beatles' era movie making, the bridge between the gungho stuff from WW2 and beyond to the modern. It has its flaws, there are some historians here on KZfaq that point them out, but that doesn't diminish the Story the movie tries to tell.
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A Жыл бұрын
Stanley Baker, "Chard" got the producers to bring a projector and movies to the set to play for the tribesmen as they had no understanding of what they were actually doing, Also I served under Brigadier Bromhead when he was commanding officer of the Berlin Brigade in the late 80's he was Michael Caines characters Great Grandson....
@TheEclecticBeard
@TheEclecticBeard Жыл бұрын
That's pretty freaking cool, on both accounts. I'd love to have seen the tribesmen faces when they seen a film for the first time. And serving under Bromhead's great grandson is pretty cool.
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A Жыл бұрын
@@TheEclecticBeard there is a great documentary out their about the making of this movie Stanley baker Died of cancer a year younger than Chard who also died of cancer, Baker actually owned Chards VC until his death in 1976. Chard died.
@richardwest6358
@richardwest6358 Жыл бұрын
Stanley Baker (Chard), as a hugely patriotic Welshman, struggled for years to get this film made in honour of his countrymen
@ianphillips9455
@ianphillips9455 Жыл бұрын
@@richardwest6358 Chard was born in Devon and the 24th of Foot where not a Welsh Regiment ( they where later posted there) but from Warwickshire, Stanley Baker was Welsh and that is why he changed certain details.
@MrSinclairn
@MrSinclairn Жыл бұрын
As I mention in another entry,a memorial plaque to Lt.Chard is in Rochester Cathedral,a few miles down from the Royal Engineers HQ and Museum at Brompton Barracks.👌👍
@garethvalleyg
@garethvalleyg Жыл бұрын
This Movie has the greatest line in cinema history, just before the singing. "what do you think? well sir, they have a great bass section but no top tenors" nothing ever written has been as clever as these words.
@JonathanReynolds1
@JonathanReynolds1 Жыл бұрын
South African political leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi played Zulu King Cetshwayo kaMpande, his great-grandfather. Also, this film was Michael Caine’s first starring role.
@Max-wl7jn
@Max-wl7jn Жыл бұрын
@@earnestlad1872never thought of that, but I didn’t think it was cringeworthy 😊
@JaricDesann
@JaricDesann Жыл бұрын
@@Max-wl7jnquite right, just sounds like a typical stuck up posh boy. They sound the same today
@bethcushway458
@bethcushway458 Жыл бұрын
​@@earnestlad1872I don't find it cringeworthy at all. He pulls it off very well.
@michaelm6948
@michaelm6948 Жыл бұрын
The 1950s and 60s were the era of incredible, historical epic films. No expense was spared in these type of films.
@oldskoolmacboy
@oldskoolmacboy Жыл бұрын
I remember my grandmother telling me about her uncle "Blackie" who I think fought in the battle of Isandlwana. He lived with her when she was very young. She told me that whenever he regaled stories about the battle he would break down in tears. God knows what he witnessed.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
I doubt he was at the Battle of Islandwana as there were only about 20 survivors. It was a complete massacre.
@oldskoolmacboy
@oldskoolmacboy Жыл бұрын
​@@davidwoolbright3675My grandmother told me the story over 40 years ago so I may well be wrong, he could have been at Rorkes Drift or part of the regiment who got there after the battle. I will try and find more information, my uncle is 91 and lives in New Zealand. He may have a clearer picture of what Blackie's roll was..
@graemeo3440
@graemeo3440 11 ай бұрын
My favourite movie of all time. Makes me proud to be British. I have it on DVD yet still watch it every time it is on TV.
@windsorSJ
@windsorSJ Жыл бұрын
I was a little boy when this movie was released and my Dad took me to see it. I was blown away even at such a young age and it's been my favourite movie ever since.
@GCG-bv3xg
@GCG-bv3xg 10 ай бұрын
I saw it as a little kid in the 90's. Brilliant movie about insurmountable odds being overcome. All be it desperately. It's an amazing piece of history. The story is told extremely well, with a couple of liberties taken with Hook's characterisations but it was one of the first movies that made me fall in love with films and film making. A really strong childhood memory for sure.
@seancorker5815
@seancorker5815 Жыл бұрын
Sgt Vaughn’s story is worth a look. He was an NCO at the battle in his 20’s, reenlisted in 1914 and eventually passed the day after VE Day 1945 as an highly decorated honorary Lieutenant Colonel.
@PokeEyeSlapSlap
@PokeEyeSlapSlap 9 ай бұрын
@johnashtone7167Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne DCM later Lt Col. Known as The Kid as he was the youngest CSgt in the British Army, only 5ft 6” Tall not the 6ft 4” Nigel Green who played him.
@stuartleeson3094
@stuartleeson3094 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen this film so many times that i find myself saying "Be a good gentleman" quite often.
@steven54511
@steven54511 Жыл бұрын
Michael Caine (Maurice Joseph Micklewhite) -- excellent actor who with a few exceptions is one of Britain's finest exports!
@TooEssgee
@TooEssgee Жыл бұрын
And just 10 years or so after he served with the Royal Fusiliers in the Korean War.
@BloodyOffDoors
@BloodyOffDoors Жыл бұрын
Loved watching your reaction, mate. Thank you. It would have been impossible to outrun the Zulus, even with the amount of notice they had. So Chard made the right decision to stand their ground.
@stingray4real
@stingray4real 10 ай бұрын
RIP Chief Buthelezi played the role of his own great-grandfather, the Zulu King Cetshwayo, in the film Zulu.
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A Жыл бұрын
Chard's thinking at the time according to his memoirs, was there was no way they could out run the Zulu even if they left the sick and injured, better to try and hold a defensive position,and fight than be caught out in the open and massacred.
@philholyman9036
@philholyman9036 11 ай бұрын
There's a really good reference book on the defence of Rorke's Drift by an author called Ian Knight. It's title pretty much sums up the realities of the situation; "Nothing Remains but to Fight". The decision to stay and defend wasn't "heroic" in itself, it was the only viable option. The actions of the defence thereafter were fight or die, helped massively by the piecemeal attacks of the Zulu impi.
@andrewroberts299
@andrewroberts299 Жыл бұрын
Great reaction EB to a great film! Stanley Baker, the star of this film, was a stalwart of the British film industry in the 1950’s and 1960’s and made some great British films! One of his you might want to check out is Hell Drivers (1957) which is about truck drivers competing with each other to drive sand and ballast from one point to another to get the highest bonus money. It has outstanding early performances from Patrick McGoohan, Sean Connery (5 years before becoming James Bond), and William Hartnell (6 years before becoming the Doctor in Doctor Who!) The film was directed by Cy Endfield, who went on to direct Stanley Baker in Zulu which you’ve just reacted to! Three films you might want to see with Michael Caine is Alfie (1966), The Italian Job (1969) and Get Carter (1971). The latter two are both highly regarded and much loved film by us Brits), and are great films in their own right!
@AnthonyValentine-vm1yc
@AnthonyValentine-vm1yc Жыл бұрын
Hell Drivers fantastic film, now great social history.
@cideryeti7957
@cideryeti7957 Жыл бұрын
"You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off" Sorry could'nt resist it.
@annabodot962
@annabodot962 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Stannington
@Stannington Жыл бұрын
This is one of my all-time favourite movies. The story isn't accurate, but the Zulu dancing and such is authentic. Above all, what I love about the movie is that the film colour and scenery backdrop is amongst the best I've ever seen
@montyzumazoom1337
@montyzumazoom1337 Жыл бұрын
There was much mutual respect for the warriors on both sides. The Zulus were well organised in military tactics a and were a fearsome foe. Zulu is a brilliant movie, showing the bravery of both sides. One of my favourite movies. It’s well worth reading the history of the Anglo-Zulu war
@free_gold4467
@free_gold4467 Жыл бұрын
I love the way the film shows the mutual respect between two warrior cultures. Great film.
@anthonyfisher1670
@anthonyfisher1670 Жыл бұрын
The officer in charge Stanley Baker lived a few doors away from my nan in Epsom , England , she was friends with him and about 1970 when i was about 5 years old i remember my nan taking me around to his mansion house to meet him .He answered the door and i shook his hand , great actor back then .
@philmus1
@philmus1 Жыл бұрын
The Sergeant Major at Rorke's Drift was offered a Victoria Cross. He refused it and asked for a commission instead He finished his military career as a Colonel
@karlmoles6530
@karlmoles6530 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Historian, I wrote my thesis on the Battle of Isandlwana. I highly recommend the book The Washing Of The Spears by Donald Morris for a comprehensive, but easy to read and understand account of the Anglo-Zulu War. And the sequel to this film, Zulu Dawn, is also pretty good.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
Zulu Dawn Is not pretty good. It’s freaking amazing! One of my favorite films ever!!
@tictoc3148
@tictoc3148 11 ай бұрын
I read that book back in the early 80's it's since been debunked as very inaccurate,
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely, it's a superb book. I'd also recommend James Mace, a US Veteran who has written a series of very accurate historical novels about the Zulu War, the 2nd volume, Crucible of Honour, the Battle of Rourkes Drift covers these events. 😊
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Im afraid that book is old and outdated and gets many things wrong, including perpetuating myths. More modern works by Ian Knight and Mike Snook are far superior sources. They don't repeat old outdated myths.
@karlmoles6530
@karlmoles6530 10 ай бұрын
@@lyndoncmp5751 Neither does The Washing Of The Spears. It's a quite factual account :)
@Official-Zulu
@Official-Zulu Жыл бұрын
"Zulus, thousands of 'em!"
@DavidSmith-cx8dg
@DavidSmith-cx8dg Жыл бұрын
A terrific film , based on actual events . So many British actors , we don't have productions of this size today , some at the peak and others at beginnings of their careers . It hasn't been on tv for quite while but very memorable nevertheless.
@auto98
@auto98 Жыл бұрын
Oddly, it used to be on pretty much every year at chirstmas/new year - I almost think of it as a Christmas film!
@johnferguson2721
@johnferguson2721 Жыл бұрын
The last time it was on UK tv channel 4 it was censored to shreds. Wokeism gone mad. Thankfully I have an old video thats the original.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Жыл бұрын
@@johnferguson2721 If you're talking about either blurring out or just not showing the female Zulus 'breasteses' I hate to break this to you but they were doing that on local American television in the 70's.
@johnferguson2721
@johnferguson2721 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadowman4710 No not the breasts but some of the scenes were seemingly to bloody and gory for somebody who had to shoe their woke credentials. Personally I don't care what the "land of the free"want to censor. I'm not American.
@Glund117
@Glund117 Жыл бұрын
Zulu Dawn is well worth a watch, often overlooked and forgotten about, but its also a great movie.
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 Жыл бұрын
A quote I always remember is "Oh no! Come all this bloody way to get shot by a bullet from Birmingham? Shoot straight you bastards!", when a young lad who was a quartermasters assistant got shot by accident. I had to Google the exact words (thank you IMDB :)) but I had the intent of the quote in my head :chuckles:
@Floyd1138
@Floyd1138 Жыл бұрын
My parents lived in Kenya, in the 60's when they were in their early 20's. They returned to Scotland and had a family. Seeing old 8mm home movies from their adventures was a yearly event when me and my siblings were growing up. African ornaments and figures were everywhere throughout the house. They are in their 80's now and the family had a get together earlier this year and we watched their old movies. i asked my dad if he remembered when i was about 8 years old i asked what his small scar/skin tag was on his chest.... he replied, it was when i was in Africa fighting the zulu's and he said 1 ran at him with a spear and he shot him between the eyes and as he fell dying his spear grazed his chest. My elderly father totally denies saying this and we all had a good laugh about it, but i have a vivid memory of him saying that :)
@themoderntemplar1567
@themoderntemplar1567 Жыл бұрын
This was an astonishing defence by the Royal Engineers and the 24th of foot(2nd Warwickshires) I watched this with my old man when I was a kid and was sooo proud. Only 17 British soldiers were killed against approx 350-500 Zulu warriors(some of the officers disagreed with that tally, citing that is was closer to 800. That's not including the wounded who the British put to death after hearing what the Zulus did to their wounded comrades at Isandlwana, no quarter given. Great vid again bud.👍
@susanlockyer1192
@susanlockyer1192 6 ай бұрын
There was only 1 Royal Engineer - Lt Chard - Stanley Baker
@da90sReAlvloc
@da90sReAlvloc Жыл бұрын
Michael Caine and Stanley baker. And Nigel green what a cast Great movie. Great review stay safe 👍
@leehallam9365
@leehallam9365 Жыл бұрын
It's a wonderful film and the core facts of the engagement were as they were portrayed. The Zulu's were portrayed mostly by Zulus, the King by one of his decendents. Some events were added for effect, there was no sing off, and while they did reappear on the hill at the end, it probably wasn't a salute, its suggested they saw the relief column. The minister story was mostly invention, in reality he was a younger man, who was going to fight with the soldiers, but he decided to leave to join his wife and children. They played fast a loose with the characters of some of the men, all the names were real. Hook was actually a model soldier, a tee total lay preacher. Commissary Dalton was actually a hugely important figure, here he mainly comforts the cook. Colour Sgt Bourne was not tall middle aged NCO, he was a short 23 year old, who had an zmazing, you should read to his story.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
I read that the minister helped a lot and served in the hospital. This is a great movie but very historically inaccurate. If you want a more accurate and I think better movie you need to try Zulu Dawn.
@leehallam9365
@leehallam9365 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwoolbright3675 He wasn't there at the fight, his young family were not far away and he decided to go to them. Zulu Dawn is an excellent film, I would recommend it, and yes it is far more historically accurate. But I don't think it's a better film, Zulu is a simpler story, and a film in which all the protagonists die is going to be less satisfying to most people. I think historical inaccuracies can be justified if they don't undermine the underlying historical truth and if they improve the film. The inaccuracies are unfair to a number of the people there, but the story of their survival is not changed, and the changes make it into a better film.
@davidwoolbright3675
@davidwoolbright3675 Жыл бұрын
That’s where we disagree. I don’t think the changes were necessary at all. It was a compelling story without them. To be honest I always disliked the minister story line and thought it detracted from the film. I still stand by my opinion that Zulu Dawn is better. More tragic.
@riverraven7359
@riverraven7359 Жыл бұрын
for some reason these old movies don't get shown anymore.... despite the immense respect most people who know about it have for the Zulus. for important history context, the British were invading Zulu land, the column of approximately 1750 men at istlandwana was wiped out in an ambush they were totally unprepared for. the old man and his daughter are missionaries from rorkes drift and the Zulu king ordered his men ONLY TO DEFEND, his nephew disobeyed and crossed the border into South Africa and attacked rorkes drift.
@TheEclecticBeard
@TheEclecticBeard Жыл бұрын
Yeah, read up on it some after I reacted. At some point I'll look at the Anglo-Zulu War on the channel a bit more in depth.
@riverraven7359
@riverraven7359 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEclecticBeard the old Zulu king was educated in Britain and knew full well the power of propaganda. he tried hard to upgrade his fighting ability with modern weapons and only defend his land long enough to turn British public opinion against the invasion. he used European telegraph (mostly German i think) to spread his side of the story. it all went wrong after his idiot nephew attacked rorkes drift, the Zulus had invaded south Africa and nobody was prepared to go to war against Britain to save Africans.
@susanlockyer1192
@susanlockyer1192 6 ай бұрын
The land wasn't originally Zulu land - they had attacked several other tribes & drove them off - wanted a better aspect I guess - Rorke' Drift wasn't located on Zulu land - the river was the border with Natal where Rorke's Drift was located
@sweetnightmares2498
@sweetnightmares2498 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest war films ever. It takes historical liberties, but it's a great film, with an incredible caste and breathtaking cinematography. But it was also more respectful to the Zulu warriors than many other depictions of indigenous peoples from that era.
@mrp9109
@mrp9109 Ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite movies , first saw it when I was 11/12, the firing by ranks scenes made a huge impression on me as did the 11 VCs awarded. My brother visited the battlefield and the guide was a descendant of one of the Zulu’s from the battle. As I got older , I learnt that the British government / military realised that they needed a positive news story to offset the embarrassing defeat at Islandwana so the 11 VCs was partly a PR thing. Also learnt that the film does have inaccuracies ; unfortunately there was no singing / sing off , no respecting the defenders as warriors before departing and as people have mentioned private hook was not as portrayed . But it did show the zulus as a brave warrior national and respected foe. The music is haunting 🇬🇧
@Evasion381
@Evasion381 Жыл бұрын
you have to remember beardy 'the army doesn't like more than one disaster a day, looks bad in the papers, upsets the civilians'
@TheEclecticBeard
@TheEclecticBeard Жыл бұрын
Makes total sense. Love that line.
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite films of all time. I have lost count of how many times I have watched it, often in recent years sparked by seeing a clip or a reaction to it on KZfaq :). I can only tell you that as a young English boy seeing this for the first time, it was one of those moments when you learn some lessons about courage and discipline - it's why stories are *so* important to a culture and why is it so insidious and not a trivial thing that the modern media are being allowed to poison our societies. That scene where they were backed up against the redoubt firing in three lines has been etched in my minds eye since that first watching and then in subsequent watchings I began to understand and agree with other messages, such as the moral core to Chard and Bromhead's post battle conversation. You summed it up perfectly with your video title tho', my friend, it is an amazing movie.
@postiekeefveness4415
@postiekeefveness4415 Жыл бұрын
My great, great, grandad was killed at Rourke's Drift. He was camped in the field next door and went over to complain about the noise.
@neilandfi
@neilandfi Жыл бұрын
I'm British-born, but the son of South African parents who were exiles from the bad old days of apartheid, partly because my dad grew up with Zulus. There is a lot to this story (which is essentially true, but incomplete) that doesn't get told. Rorke's Drift, heroic as it certainly was, arguably should not be treated as a battle in it's own right. The importance of the engagement was played up by the British government and media to help downplay the larger engagement, which was the Battle of Isandlhwana. That was the greatest defeat ever inflicted on the British by a native army. Rorke's Drift was an engagement between this small detachment of Welsh Guards and others and a couple of battalions from the main Zulu army sent to harry the survivors of Isandlhwana as they fled. Be careful not to think of the Zulus as military simpletons. Their army had structure and discipline, with regiments, officers, special forces, the whole deal. Think of them as a sort of African version of the ancient Romans... who were famously serious and organised. They were incredible warriors. Their king ,Cetaswayo, was also no fool. For sure, they won a great victory in the main battle, but when his military people talked about pressing their advantage, he told them very clearly that they could not afford more "victories" like Isandlhwana. A battle in which thousands of them died defeating the invading British forces (they were invading the Zulu homeland at the time). Following these engagements, the British brought up reinforcements with more competent officers (than Lord Chelmsford, commander of the column, who died in the battle I believe). They also brought up big guns. Zulu resistance was fairly promptly, and maybe, tragically, swept aside. But don't let any of that diminish the respect for these men. All you can do is what's there for you to do. They did it with courage and tenacity which is rightly famous.
@petercarter6261
@petercarter6261 Жыл бұрын
Chelmsford died in 1905 in London. The Impi at Rorkes drift was ordered not to cross the river but to cut off retreat (yes it was a very good army). However the commander heard of Isandlhwana and wanted some glory
@philholyman9036
@philholyman9036 11 ай бұрын
Largely true, but Chelmsford left the camp at Isandlwana and led a flying column to chase down the Zulu army at its last known location. He died in Britain some years later, probably haunted by his mistakes. The defenders of Rorke's Drift were mainly B company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot (2nd Warwickshire Regt.). The Zulu army were a hugely impressive skirmishing force, and had hearts like lions. It's impossible to show the damage a Boxer .45 round would make in a film of this age, but I own one of their original lead bullets, and its density is incredible. A single round would've penetrated 2-3 ranks deep, smashing bones and ripping through vital organs on the way. To face that kind of fire power with nothing more than an isinene and cow hide shield as protection, takes the kind of courage most people can only dream of. Trust me, the Zulu nation has the utmost respect of anyone in Britain who knows anything about this particular war.
@paulmorrison-hs4lw
@paulmorrison-hs4lw 5 ай бұрын
Welsh Guards were founded in 1915 !!
@john9508
@john9508 Жыл бұрын
It is a great movie, one of my favourites, I have seen it so many times as it gets shown over here quite regularly. Edit another movie set in S Africa, against the Boers, is Young Winston
@nicksykes4575
@nicksykes4575 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, the actual number of men at Rorkes Drift is quoted in a lot of places as 137, not sure if that is the total, or just the men of the 24th Foot. The casualties for the 24th Foot was a lot lower than it appeared in the film, 17 kia. If they'd have tried to get out the Zulus would've caught them in the open, and it would've been goodnight Vienna, pvt Hooks family were not impressed with the films portrayal of him, by all accounts he was a model soldier. The Zulu King Cetshwayo was portrayed by his great-grandson, King Buthelezi, because of the apartheid laws in South Africa at the time, there were problems finding ways to pay the Zulu People, the film company got around it by gifting all the cattle in the film to the Zulu Nation.
@norman9792
@norman9792 Жыл бұрын
Hook's family walked out of the premier in disgust.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Жыл бұрын
@@norman9792 Yeah, before Hook gets his heroic turn near the end of the film.
@trigger399
@trigger399 Жыл бұрын
There were about ninety combatants plus others able to fight such as Schiess, Adendorf, Dalton and some of the patients.
@kirishima2370
@kirishima2370 Жыл бұрын
About 100 were from the 24th, the wounded were both men from the 24th and a variety of colonial and British army units. Also present was another Royal Engineer (Sapper Robson who was Chard's batman) not seen in the film.
@texaspatriot4215
@texaspatriot4215 7 ай бұрын
Much respect to the British soldiers and the Zulu warriors, one of my top 5 all time history based war films.
@lizthompson9653
@lizthompson9653 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite films. The zulu chants when they are saluting them are awesome. Was lucky enough to see the regimental flag and an exhibition on the battle at pembroke castle in wales 37 yrs ago when i was on honeymoon. If you ignore michael caine trying not to speak with a cockney twang, it is brilliantly acted 🙂
@peterhopkins4748
@peterhopkins4748 Жыл бұрын
Since its inception in the 1850s the Victoria Cross has only been awarded 1358 times. Major battles involving thousands of British troops in two world wars often resulted in just one or two VCs being awarded. It puts the heroism of these men into perspective. This action was roughly contemporary to the battle of the Little Big Horn. There was similar war background of the government and military trying to control a large native group.
@BlooMKunKy
@BlooMKunKy Жыл бұрын
My great, great, great Uncle died at Rorkes Drift, Pvt 801 Thomas Cole, he was portrayed in the film by Gary Bond as somewhat of a scared kid guarding the Vicar, then getting shot at the sand bag defence and then dying on the operating table, "A paper hanger". I don't doubt that he was utterly terrified, but he actually died trying to rescue people from the burning hospital building, he ran outside and caught a ricochet from a Zulu rifle and died instantly. He was nicknamed "old king Cole" in the regiment. Brave young man.
@johnord684
@johnord684 Жыл бұрын
The soldiers who fought a Rorke's drift where not a Welsh regiment but the ,2nd Battalion of the 24th Foot based in Warwick , England.
@robertespley248
@robertespley248 Жыл бұрын
The formation of 3 lines of armed soldiers firing in alternate patterns dates back to at least the napoleonic wars and was called a "British Square" and was pretty effective as there was a non stop barrage of rifle fire and it was pretty much impenetrable from cavalry soldiers. Love the film, love the reaction and I damn near start crying every time I hear Men of Harlech being sung
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 Жыл бұрын
But the fuzzy wuzzys did it. They broke the British square.
@originalkk882
@originalkk882 Жыл бұрын
British soliders in the Napoleonic Wars actually fought in lines of 2 files deep, unlike most other European nations, and the British Army itself in the 18h Century, which fought in ines of 3 files deep. 2 deep lines enabled every musket to bear whilst 3 deep required one file to lean in between the ones in front, which was less effective. Infantry squares were formed 4 deep to present a hedge of bayonets to cavalry, whilst 2 files behind fired at them.
@Trebor74
@Trebor74 Жыл бұрын
The original machine gun
@markchambers3833
@markchambers3833 Жыл бұрын
This isn't a square. A square was the formation infantry adopted to resist cavalry attack, with the four sides made up of ranks of men ready to fire, with fixed bayonets to resist cavalry charges. The remainder of the soldiers sheltered in the centre of the formation. The formation was almost impenetrable to cavalry attack but left the soldiers as sitting ducks for bombardment from enemy artillery. Hence it was used only when necessary to defend against cavalry as casualties from artillery bombardment against squares (as happened at Waterloo) were horrific.
@gooner_duke2756
@gooner_duke2756 11 ай бұрын
Not quite. The "square" was formed so infantry could defend against Calvary effectively, with the front rank knelling having their muskets butts in the ground and the bayonets pointing out. The horses would instinctively cower and not charge home. The rank by fire, as seen in this film was called "volley fire".
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 Жыл бұрын
Another great movie based on a true story is the aussie movie Breaker Morant set during the Boer war.
@patriciakeen6687
@patriciakeen6687 Жыл бұрын
Agree we’ll worth a watch
@stu2333
@stu2333 Жыл бұрын
Great film
@mustafabeer1791
@mustafabeer1791 Жыл бұрын
Oh and absolutely amazing musical score!
@simonpoole2635
@simonpoole2635 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite films, watched with my dad as a child im 42 now and its still as good as the day i watched it. It's nice to see you appreciate it. The ending still gives me goosebumps!
@trytellingthetruth.2068
@trytellingthetruth.2068 Жыл бұрын
Will always seems to get the short end of the stick, being that everyone fires at him.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, stirring music by John Barry. Commissary James Langley Dalton gets overlooked in the film as it was his idea to stand & fight. The Witt's were Swedish missionaries. Stanley Baker was a proud Welshman but it was a liberty to portray an English regiment a mostly Welsh as that didn't happen until about 10 years later. Despite Apartheid he insisted on equal pay for the Zulus. Rourke's Drift has stores for the battalion which helped as most of the ammunition was used up by the battle.
@mairiconnell6282
@mairiconnell6282 Жыл бұрын
I have seen his VC at Buller Barracks Aldershot Officers' Mess, before amalgamation into the Royal Logistics' Corps. I don't know where it is now.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Жыл бұрын
12,000 rounds in store if memory serves, when the battle was over, there were only 1000 rounds left.
@nre1553
@nre1553 Жыл бұрын
Approximately a third were Welsh when you include soldiers from Monmouth
@paulhugill4589
@paulhugill4589 Жыл бұрын
Love your reaction, this was bravery beyond bravery on both sides.
@paulcrombie9623
@paulcrombie9623 9 ай бұрын
It was astounding from so few against the thousands, thanks mate, it makes me cry, they could have run, but they stayed and fought. Love your video on this story, thanks!
@revjohnlee
@revjohnlee Жыл бұрын
This movie takes place at Rorke's Drift. It took place in the immediate aftermath of the British loss at Isandlwana. There is another movie, made after this one, called "Zulu Dawn" and starts Peter O'Toole. It covers the events of the beginning of the War and Isandlwana. Personally, I think it is a lesser creation than this one but it might help to clarify to story for you. If I remember correctly, Buthelesi, the king of the Zulu when this was filmed, played the part of Cetyshwayo, the king during the Zulu war. The weapon of the Zulu was/is the Assegai. It is a short handled stabbing spear. The rifles had by the Zulu were spoils picked up at Isandlwana from dead British bodies. At this time, there would have been some Zulu who knew how to shoot but not many. Zulu impis were renown for their speed and mobility. British infantry, while justifiably famous for being able to "hold the line", was also notoriously slow. If they had left Rorke's Drift, the Zulu would have caught them in the open and it would have been over in moments. The loss at Isandlwana was more due to bad leadership and contempt for the natives.
@free_gold4467
@free_gold4467 Жыл бұрын
Spot on as far as I know!
@quaker57
@quaker57 Жыл бұрын
And stars Burt Lancaster which will probably have more appeal to American viewers.
@Whiteshirtloosetie
@Whiteshirtloosetie Жыл бұрын
What I so love about this film is it shows the incredible bravery and respect of those both British and Zulu deserve. Have been looking at the history of Lieutenant-Colonel Frank Edward Bourne OBE DCM (27 April 1855 - 9 May 1945).
@susanlockyer1192
@susanlockyer1192 6 ай бұрын
Nigel Green should have won an award for the most fearsome set of mutton chops
@HistoritorJimaldus
@HistoritorJimaldus Жыл бұрын
My dad’s favourite film, and one of mine too - you’re the first on KZfaq to do a proper reaction to it! ❤
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 Жыл бұрын
The two things they got the MOST wrong in this movie were (1) Private Hook was not a malingerer, thief and coward, he was actually a model soldier; and (2) the Reverand Witt was not a pacifist drunken coward. The Reverand actually helped to prepare the defenses for Roark's Drift, then left shortly before the battle began to go take care of (defend) his wife and young children. (He wasn't much older at the time than the actress playing his fictional daughter.) Why they maligned Hook so badly I don't know - the true story was awesome enough without doing that. As for maligning the missionary - a lot of movie makers never miss an opportunity to dismiss Christians' faith and show them in a negative light. This is a perfect example. So maybe he's not the "dumbass" idiot SOB the guy making the movie got you to believe he was. (Take a little time to think about that next time you want to kill someone.) Also, the "sing-off" was the most awesome part of the movie. If it didn't really happen, it should have. As for the true parts, you are right that both officers were out of their depth. Bromhead (M. Caine) was from the aristocracy, so it was natural and expected for him to look down on everyone, even fellow officers who were not so high born. Chard (S. Baker) came from a non-aristocratic family, so he had to make his way by merit as an engineer. Basically, the story is that after the battle nobody who knew them were surprised they didn't run (that would be very un-British) but were surprised by how well they did. --- Greatest lines from the movie: - It's a miracle. - If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry .45 caliber miracle. - And a bayonet, Sir, with some guts behind.
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын
You also forgot to mention most of the soldiers were actually English not Welsh.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Жыл бұрын
@@douglastaggart9360 This is an English Regiment, though it is was the process of becoming a Welsh One (The 24th Foot didn't officially become the South Wales Boarders until 2 years after this battle). 24th Foot was the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment at the time of the Zulu War.
@jasonfoster4965
@jasonfoster4965 Жыл бұрын
@@douglastaggart9360about 50 odd English to 35 Welsh. Imagine how many times over the years everyone’s been called english automatically in film when it may not be the whole truth
@howardbowen-RC-Pilot
@howardbowen-RC-Pilot Жыл бұрын
Why us Sarge? ...cos your 'ere. Nobody else...
@philholyman9036
@philholyman9036 11 ай бұрын
​@@howardbowen-RC-Pilot"because we're here lad, nobody else. Just us."
@annemariefleming
@annemariefleming Жыл бұрын
I know this movie. I have it on dvd. One of my top 10 of all time.
@chipsthedog1
@chipsthedog1 Жыл бұрын
So glad you did this! There's hardly any reactions to it just a few reviews. Thank you
@jasonbarnes9781
@jasonbarnes9781 Жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best reactions I've seen in ages. Amazing movie! Good job!
@colingoode3702
@colingoode3702 Жыл бұрын
I saw this film in the cinema in NW London when it was released. Not sure what rating the film had but I was 8 or 9 years old & I went with my school friend & his father. All these years later & it is still one of my favourite films. Used to be shown on UK TV every Christmas.
@johnnhoj6749
@johnnhoj6749 Жыл бұрын
I think it was an "A" certificate. There were three certificates at the time: U for Universal, meaning no age restriction, X for 18 and over only and A where children would only be admitted if they were with an adult.
@bigmull
@bigmull Жыл бұрын
The main reason the British lost so many at Isandalwana was that they couldnt open the boxes of Ammunition as the boxes still had the screws securing the lids on them.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 Жыл бұрын
It also didn't help that their standard formation didn't work against fast-moving infantrymen.
@daniellastuart3145
@daniellastuart3145 Жыл бұрын
and maybe the Zulus having 20,000 men might of help and camp commander was a desk office on a field officer also the Zulus lost over 3,000 men at Isandalwana
@KBJ58
@KBJ58 2 ай бұрын
It was also an extremely poor defensive position. I have been there. It is surrounded by high ground on all sides. You can't see more than a couple of miles. Lord Chelmsford was a bumbling incompetent and was rightfully shunned on his return from South Africa.
@georgeduncan9443
@georgeduncan9443 Жыл бұрын
one of the great things about zulu is the face that there are no "bad guys" or "good guys". in a modern holywood blockbuster like this there would always have to be clear "bad guys". just men fighting to stay alive from one second to the next.
@NoelCraigNI
@NoelCraigNI Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you had the chance to watch Zulu, any movie lover should see it at least once.
@adventussaxonum448
@adventussaxonum448 Жыл бұрын
Astounding result for the Warwickshire regiment. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 The Welshmen in the ranks did well too.
@neilg8009
@neilg8009 Жыл бұрын
Bloody English lol
@ransomedavis2208
@ransomedavis2208 Жыл бұрын
yes exactly that it wasnt a welsh regiment until after the zulu war and so most of the british soldiers were infact english not welsh, stanley baker being a producer wanted to make heroes of the welsh.
@neilg8009
@neilg8009 Жыл бұрын
@@ransomedavis2208 yes exactly aren't all soldiers heroes no matter of what nationality ? This includes the the betrayed Zulu people.
@wezconnor8791
@wezconnor8791 Жыл бұрын
@@ransomedavis2208 i take it they were all english and no welsh there then by what your saying 😂
@chrism8325
@chrism8325 Жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in the true story of Rourkes Drift and the Zulu War, I highly recommend Zulu: The Heroism and Tragedy of the Zulu War of 1879 by Saul David. A great read, and you'll be surprised by the true story. Enjoy
@corringhamdepot4434
@corringhamdepot4434 Жыл бұрын
This was Michael Cain's first major role, he wasn't even credited in most of his earlier films. Stanley Baker was the producer and "star" of the film. Jack Hawkins who played the missionary was a huge star. I grew up watching him playing officers in black and white war movies, and police inspectors in crime dramas.
@skipper409
@skipper409 Жыл бұрын
The Zulu chief in this movie was actually playing his own ancestor
@BrixtonTone
@BrixtonTone Жыл бұрын
Upon its' release I watched the move Zulu two weeks before myself and family emigrated to South Africa, I remember thinking "Christ ! is it too late to try for Australia " 😀 Great movie and several weeks later I got to speak albeit briefly with Lt. Chard (Stanley Baker) at the Lord Nelson Hotel in Cape Town.
@JJ-of1ir
@JJ-of1ir Жыл бұрын
Are you happily settled now?
@BrixtonTone
@BrixtonTone Жыл бұрын
@@JJ-of1ir Yeah, back in the UK😁
@slowerthinker
@slowerthinker Жыл бұрын
Anything that has an introduction with Richard Burton narating automatically gets five stars! _No one would have believed, in the last years of the nineteenth century, that human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space_ ... _To begin at the beginning: It is spring, moonless night in the small town, starless and bible-black_ ... _The secretary of state for war has received the following dispatch from Lord Chelmsford: Broadsword calling Danny Boy_ ...
@alistairpayne5357
@alistairpayne5357 Жыл бұрын
Best war movie ever . Respect and class was shown by both sides filming this epic ,
@annabodot962
@annabodot962 4 ай бұрын
I have loved this movie for decades. As a woman living in a time when men are so disparaged, we women have to remember we were always spared from the front line. The bravery on both sides is remarkable. God bless the souls of all who lived or died in this horrible battle. Thank you, men.
@alanbeaumont4848
@alanbeaumont4848 Жыл бұрын
At this point the British army didn't practice marksmanship (relying on volleys) and the Martini Henry rifle tended to jam. Analysis after the war indicated that only 1/13 shots killed anyone (about 8%) even though through and throughs were possible. It took the 2nd Boer War thirty years later to convince the army to emphasise accuracy. In 1914 the British rifleman was so good the Germans often thought they were facing machine guns even where there were none.
@garyross4602
@garyross4602 Жыл бұрын
Whilst much of what you said is correct and post the 2nd Boer War the British army did indeed massively improve its marksmanship training, I am afraid the old wife's tale about the the use of the 'mad minute' of fire to gain fire superiority making the German Units facing the BEF believe they were facing MG's is one of those monumental tales of daring do that has taken on a life of its own. It simply didn't happen and is purely a post war myth.
@ransomedavis2208
@ransomedavis2208 Жыл бұрын
very good info i wasnt aware of this.
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 Жыл бұрын
@@garyross4602 Aye, I reckon you're right that it is likely a myth that has grown in the telling about the Germans thinking they were facing machine guns but they did note that if they received fast and accurate rifle fire then they knew they were up against British troops :) A quote I pulled from a source on the internet (so it must be true :D) : “Mad Minute” was a pre-World War I term used by British Army riflemen during training at the Hythe School of Musketry to describe scoring a minimum of 15 hits on a target at 300 yards within one minute using a bolt-action rifle (usually a Lee-Enfield or Lee-Metford rifle). It was not uncommon during the First World War for riflemen to greatly exceed this score. The record, set in 1914 by Sergeant Instructor Alfred Snoxall, was 38 hits. I have shot that fast myself in competition, so I know it's possible; but can report that the old Parker Hale 7.62 I was using did start to get hard to bolt cycle once she got hot! I had to really slam the bolt home to get it to close, which slowed me down rather ... never had an accidental discharge thankfully :lol: As to my accuracy ... well I was using a scope, so that was cheating :)
@garyross4602
@garyross4602 Жыл бұрын
@@dallassukerkin6878 Regardless of the source [the ever truthful www] what you have written is accurate. The professional British Army that went to France in 1914 was superbly trained and superb marksmen. The issue, given the nature of the combat, was that compared to the European forces they either fought or were allied to, is that it was miniscule in size in comparison. Plus, it was decimated during the opening Battles. Having read extensively on the subject [I am ex-military, an amateur military historian and hold a degree in War Studies] , part of the myth surrounding the 'machine-gun' claim was that the Germans were surprised as they didn't possess much experience of MG's, or weren't equipped with many themselves. Actually, they were very well equipped with MG's compared to their opponents and had an excellent tactical training regime in situ well before the commencement of hostilities, that both exposed and conditioned them to MG fire and its tactical usage. None of which takes anything away from the professionalism and bravery of the men involved, it's just one of those military myths that refuses to die gracefully.
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 Жыл бұрын
@@garyross4602 Always a pleasure to meet a fellow historian :salute: I've maintained an amateur interest in specifically military history all my life, being drawn into it by a book on the Norman Conquest that I read when I was about five or six! My focus there has largely been naval but also, inevitably, the World Wars in general. I have a Masters in History but that did not particularly emphasise the military side of the street - not Western military at any rate. But one of my areas of special interest was Japanese history, which is what in turn has lead to my obtaining a mid-high grade in Japanese swordsmanship :grins:.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
This was the film that was Michael Caine's big break and he pulled it off despite his real-life persona being very different. He was born just off the same High Street in Walworth SOUTH East London as me,15 years earlier and we attended the same famous Boys Club where The Prime Minister,Queen Mother, and Bob Hope visited ad where Sir Michael first appeared on stage. It was Clubland.
@tomhaskett5161
@tomhaskett5161 6 ай бұрын
Michael Caine said in his autobiography that he once did a spot on a Bob Hope show, and Hope sent his fee directly to the club. When Caine asked him why, Hope simply said "you owr it to them".
@kevinjorgensen1046
@kevinjorgensen1046 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget it is just a movie. Watched it as a 17 year old recruit, week 6, recruit training Australian Army, 1969. All recruits were shown this movie and probably still are today. When the Zulu's starting singing praise for their enemies at the end I remember thinking. ""Yeah right. Absolute BS!
@chrislyne377
@chrislyne377 11 ай бұрын
The man playing the Zulu king, Cetshwayo, is his grandson, Prince Mangosuthu Buthelezi. He's still alive and is an MP in the South African parliament.
@LordEriolTolkien
@LordEriolTolkien Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest British films ever made. Meks me prahd t'be English. /Salutes King
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