Week One with the Alesis Strata Prime

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The eDrum Workshop

The eDrum Workshop

Күн бұрын

Documenting my first week with the new Alesis Strata Prime electronic drum kit. From unboxing to trigger setup, playing the kit, using the module and my thoughts about whether the Strata Prime is a good eDrum set.
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& any module that supports 44.1kHz, 16-bit stereo .wav samples with a layering function
*TM-1 & RT-MicS may require additional software to load samples
00:00 - Unboxing
03:07 - Setting Up
05:11 - Dialling In
09:14 - Troubleshooting MIDI
11:08 - Playing & Problems
15:10 - Kick Trigger Issues
16:29 - 7 Day Review
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@scottsimo3170
@scottsimo3170 2 ай бұрын
Finally, a decent non ad review. Good on You.
@scott8786
@scott8786 2 ай бұрын
This is the review I've been waiting for! You are the MVP of the eDrum community. Thank you so much.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@LongingArc
@LongingArc Ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop would you recommend buying this kit for a beginner-intermediate drummer? Also could you share your settings with me? I have no idea how I would get the correct settings haha
@alvarohernandez2764
@alvarohernandez2764 2 ай бұрын
You don't understand, those are the best voices, finetuned by the best studios. Hit it baby! "Lets go to room click" "Double back a little" "Lets go to, lets go to room click" "Double dibidi double back a little"
@flbchbm
@flbchbm Ай бұрын
double-back to the future
@ozthekeymaster
@ozthekeymaster 2 ай бұрын
Now this, children, is how to do a review. 👍👏👏 Awesome job, cheers Luke!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@superwotan
@superwotan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this superb video. I was on the edge on purchasing it, but after seeing your review I will definitely wait.
@MR_Robbers
@MR_Robbers 2 ай бұрын
I love that there's a voice on a few samples...signature!
@mikosoft
@mikosoft 2 ай бұрын
This is the best video on Strata Prime I've seen. The initial set up was a treat to watch.
@482jpsquared
@482jpsquared 2 ай бұрын
Excellent, fair and granular review, as we've come to expect and appreciate from you, Luke! I really appreciated that you drilled into and analyzed some of the triggering issues and showed the viewer how you were able to correct them.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you John! 🙏
@squidskunk
@squidskunk 2 ай бұрын
iv been waiting for your input on this kit. thanks.
@JonnyRobinson
@JonnyRobinson Ай бұрын
Man this is a great review, I have watched loads and yours is the first to really pick it apart.
@astronaut2005drummer
@astronaut2005drummer 2 ай бұрын
Great review! The new Alesis drum looks cool and the module too. Great sounds. Thanks for sharing with us your point of view of this new piece of gear. :)
@jonnyfgroove
@jonnyfgroove 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Luke! I've been waiting for this one.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Luke for another highly detailed thorough review. You do great work, my friend.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@MR_Robbers
@MR_Robbers 2 ай бұрын
Great demo man! I'll be revisiting this once I buy. Super
@EDCaub
@EDCaub 2 ай бұрын
Great honest review!
@kitdinker
@kitdinker 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you!
@LordPlaythellSteele-er4qi
@LordPlaythellSteele-er4qi Ай бұрын
Such a great review. Huge thank you sir...
@marvinpaerran8858
@marvinpaerran8858 2 ай бұрын
the most informative StrataPrime video so far 👍
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 2 ай бұрын
Luke with another exceptional review. Way to go, man!!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Jared 🙏
@Iamadrummer
@Iamadrummer 2 ай бұрын
As others have found out, extra triggering and crosstalk can be dialed to limit it, but no matter how you adjust for it, it can not be completely dialed away. I do think the Strata Prime e-kit is an improvement over the Strike Pro Se e-kit, but... I think it is too expensive for not a perfect kit. It is nice to see Alesis coming out with better higher-end e-kits rather than just crappy budget friendly e-kits, but I do think the Strata Prime kit needs some improvements before I would concider buying it. From the honest reviews I have seen, I feel Alesis did not do enough testing on this kit to find the issues many that have played this kit had and fixed them. I do think in the future, Alesis will have a high-end e-kit worth buying, but as of now, I really can not recommend Alesis as a good brand to buy. For less money than the Alesis Strata Prime e-kit, there are better functioning high-end e-kits from other brands out there. Also, I do not like how Alesis has marketed the Strata Prime kit. They seemed to send the kit to quite a few internet drummers and had them show how great the kit is. Sadly, I feel those reviews only showed that the kit is great and totally worth getting. You need to weed through those reviews and get honest reviews from the ones that did not get sent the kit but bought one or had an opportunity to play one. Those reviewers not only showed the good aspects of the kit but also pointed out all the cons and flaws the kit has. Your review, as always, is one of the more honest ones.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Yeah, I think I agree that you could forgive some of Alesis' other kits due to the incredibly low price. This kit has strayed into a price range where there is a lot of solid competition and the trigger performance at least isn't punching at a high enough level currently. The module is the flashy selling point but that can only go so far if there are problems with it.
@howiethedrummer
@howiethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Great in depth review!!!
@bruceperkins2921
@bruceperkins2921 2 ай бұрын
the more hear this kit. the more im digging it
@ArgonautDrums
@ArgonautDrums 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff dude!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@jamessullenriot
@jamessullenriot 2 ай бұрын
This is a great review. As a VAD 506 owner I not in the market but would have envy of 3 things. 1: The 3 zone cymbals 2: the built in sounds (actually I think to my ear, Alesis always excels with that) and 3: the module touchscreen
@iandguzman
@iandguzman 2 ай бұрын
I own both alesis strike pro and just recently bought a roland td27kv2 and the strike is eating dust now. Cant even sell it. Once u go Roland, u never go back!
@Ludo_A
@Ludo_A 2 ай бұрын
I have a VAD 507 and had exactly the same thoughts/envy. The included BFD library and kits sound great. That is why I use SD3, EZ3 with my 507 and of course the kits that Luke makes for the TD 27 😄
@shackelfro
@shackelfro 2 ай бұрын
​@@iandguzmancould you say more about this? I'm making a decision potentially between the strata prime and a Roland currently!
@iandguzman
@iandguzman 2 ай бұрын
@@shackelfro Choose Roland. It features digital snare, rides, and hats, which are significantly superior to Alesis. The quality and technology provide ample reasons to prefer it over any Alesis kit. Embrace the innovation.
@Kozouakumachan9079
@Kozouakumachan9079 Ай бұрын
Awesome alwais✰you are the best drummer!!🥁🎶⚡✨🌠🌟👌🏻👍🏼
@allan_rossine
@allan_rossine 2 ай бұрын
Wonderfull!
@Garagedrummer
@Garagedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Luke…finally! Let’s go
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 2 ай бұрын
I knew you come in with the answering some of the questions that have sprung to mind when this was released and and everyone was going ape shit. This is why YOU ARE the man to go to for edrum reviews that really delve into the finer points of a system and not be over-wowed with the bells and whistles. Of course, buyer purchase in me had a degree of protective bias over this when a bunch of people started calling it a Mimic Slayer, especially as some rumours where circling of the Mimic's end of life, (which has since been dispelled too... so who knows) But I concede it's an excellent addition to the edrum market, it's extremely competitively priced and does sound fantastic. I cannot wait until you do a follow up! PS. Hope your USA tour went well mate. Best wishes, your most loyal fan from Wales (or any other place!)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve 🙏 The tour went great but completely flew by! Yeah, I don't think the Mimic power users have much to fear at the moment. If some of these issues are resolved and plenty of expansions get released, maybe we'll have to reassess that situation!
@johnsonqjohnson
@johnsonqjohnson Ай бұрын
it will be the new Zildjian kit for me ...this was a great review
@NigelMarston
@NigelMarston 2 ай бұрын
I have a Roland TD27KV2 with an extra tom and crash. I like it - it just works - out of the box I never had to set it up with trigger sensitivity or crosstalk. However, I REALLY love that Alesis has different sized tom pads and I also like that slot feature for the ends of the rack tubes. The sounds are good too - going to see if I can buy/download them and pump them into my kit.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 ай бұрын
My plan was to buy a 27KV2 … now this new Alesis has popped up … Sounds like I should just stick to Plan A, tho ‘ …
@jezusmylord
@jezusmylord 2 ай бұрын
This review looks hella funny and good after 10 seconds allready
@jjptech
@jjptech 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. It's amazing how little to none tunning this brands makes, it seems that the issues are just lack of dialing in it properly before launch, they count on the users to make adjustments. On the other hand, the sounds are just A MA ZING.
@cliffordswinscoe1584
@cliffordswinscoe1584 2 ай бұрын
Great review - as a fan of Roland reliability, I was thinking of upgrading to the Td27kv2, then the Alesis Strata came along which caused a dilemma......think I'm going to wait a few months to see if the Alesis has any unresolved issues before I make a decision. !!
@galwaytribesman9289
@galwaytribesman9289 Ай бұрын
That was a tasty fill at 12:55 man
@JHPRS
@JHPRS Ай бұрын
I own this kit, bought it on day 1. The main thing that concerns me is that you can't make backups for kits, instruments, and settings. I really hope this comes in an update. :)
@fuzzypoet1018
@fuzzypoet1018 21 күн бұрын
I upgraded my kit from a Roland KV11 to Drum-tec shells. No regrets. I noticed the issue with the bass drum pedal; Drum-tec's 18" x8" bass came with a rubber piece w/adhesive to allow for perfect bass drum attachment. I have older Alesis cymbals and these seem to a great improvement. I must say that the shell wrap is really nice on your kit; it's a shame that the plastic on th evottom of the shells is so darn thick.
@adamgarner711
@adamgarner711 Ай бұрын
Another very informative review. Love the depth and topics covered in this review. I’m a hardcore Roland user, have been open minded about moving. This kit has a lot of positive aspects. The triggering issues are a big no go at the price point. If you want to compete with Roland, Alesis needs to ensure the trigger performance at this price point is better.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 2 ай бұрын
Roland stuff triggers so good out of the box. Even used stuff. I would not be happy with these problems at that price.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I always have to tweak Roland triggers to my preference but it's rare that I'm "troubleshooting" them, for sure. There have been a small handful of times where I've had a genuine faulty part but otherwise it's a pretty hassle free experience with Roland triggers. I agree that this kit pushes too far into a higher price range for its performance at the moment.
@Ludo_A
@Ludo_A 2 ай бұрын
Great review and drumming Luke! You know your stuff. A 'normal' novice buyer will not be able to tweak things like you do/can.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@CodyBDrums
@CodyBDrums 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the bass drum triggering issue, I have had the same exact issue. I believe i’ve completely fixed it by making sure the tightness of the head is equal the whole way around. Same thing with the snare. And I made them both a little extra tight which seemed to help too. But I see you’ve removed the head completely and reinstalled it and still have the same issue. It worked for me however. I could definitely see how the mesh head not being equally tuned all the away around could cause some triggering issues.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear that this fixed it for you! Yeah, I've had the head off and tried a few tensions but not seen any improvement so far. I'm usually pretty good at getting things even by feel alone and it's not an issue I've really run into with other kicks except the one mentioned in the video, but I'll crack out the drum dial and see if getting all the lugs exactly the same helps. Cheers!
@aarond33
@aarond33 5 күн бұрын
How did it work out?​@@TheeDrumWorkshop
@aarond33
@aarond33 5 күн бұрын
What kind of pedal are you guys using? Curious to know if different pedals may be more prone to transmitting vibrations from the down motion pripr to pedal striking drum
@Casa_7
@Casa_7 11 күн бұрын
Hi man! Thanks for ur videos, they are all really helpful! What would you suggest me as beginner on drums to buy along with a td 17kvx2 as double kick, hi hat stand and throne? For kicks and hat stand I'd say my budget is around 300€ and 150€, for the throne I really don't know a price range, but I'd like to get something decent that lasts but that won't cost me a lot. I mainly plan on learning metal and rock, but some jazz maybe in the future. What would you recommend?
@shackelfro
@shackelfro 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video! I'm trying to decide at the moment between kits in this sort of price range. Do you (or anyone else in the comments section) have thoughts about how this compares to other kits in this general price range, the roland td27kv2, td50, vads, efnotes etc? I'm down a bit of a rabbit hole, as to whether the digital snare and cymbals are things I actually "need" versus are marketing hype. Any thoughts appreciated!
@amoscampista5380
@amoscampista5380 Ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for the great video. Would you mind sharing what settings you adjusted to dial-in the strata prime? I just purchased one and don’t have a midi set up. I would certainly appreciate having it dialed in like yours.
@aaronsudasna
@aaronsudasna Ай бұрын
Great video, Luke! I was wondering if you have tested the module with other pads/cymbals yet? I’m sure at some point you’ll address this in another video, but wasn’t sure if you’d tried that out yet. 🥂
@thewinegeekdan
@thewinegeekdan 2 ай бұрын
Can’t believe Alesis didn’t send you a review kit!! Probably scared of your technical prowess!!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't like to presume why I wasn't sent one!
@thewinegeekdan
@thewinegeekdan Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!!
@thewinegeekdan
@thewinegeekdan Ай бұрын
Thank you for the info
@alanvaughan2937
@alanvaughan2937 Ай бұрын
Great review and once again Alesis has blown it's load to early ......what about the load in times when switching from kit to kit with effects added
@NielsHeusinkveld
@NielsHeusinkveld 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I've noticed all cymbal thresholds are broken, you need to hit 3x the set threshold to hear something. At a threshold of 4, soft hihats for example are lost as this is a 12 threshold. How do you find the cymbal edge sensitivity? I find I have to go quite close to minimum (1.0) sensitivity in order to have to hit 'fairly hard' to max it out. I also think I've had some regular hits on snare and kick registering as lower velocity, but I could just be pants.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, I'll have to look into that more closely! Regarding the edge sensitivity, I didn't notice anything too weird about it but I'll definitely check over it again.
@Drum2
@Drum2 Ай бұрын
Good review. Looks a lot better than previous Alesis kits. But I can't do without the X-Sticks on my Roland Digital snare. No MIDI over USB?? that's killed it for me, as that's what I use the most.
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 Ай бұрын
Really want to know abiut pad compatibility with the module especially diy centre triggers . I’m considering a edum 10 and then seeing what the cheapest laptop/micro pc/vst software is to create my own ‘module’ Would be great to see just how little it can be done for. I reckon these days a 200 quid laptop with an older i7 proccessor should be able to handle ezdrummer
@mikebruni9881
@mikebruni9881 2 ай бұрын
I've had this kit a few days and I did have to tweak the kick trigger settings a bunch. I haven't noticed the variable velocity issue over the last few hours of playing. I'm pretty heavy footed, so the threshold is higher than you'd typically think would be OK. One also has to open the hi hats quite deliberately, and slightly before the strike which I typically don't do on my acoustics. Not sure if that's a me thing or not. I'm enjoying the quality of the samples quite a lot, and that ambiance is handled with separate adjustable mic channels and not just processing. SFSG I'd say.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Glad that the velocity issue hasn't hit you. I'll continue to work on it, there's always a chance it's something simple that I've overlooked. I hope so anyway, I want it to work well! The hi-hat lifting thing is quite common on electronic kits in general to be honest. There aren't really any that perform exactly as acoustic ones do, though I think Roland's digital hi-hats play better than the Strata's and I hear great things about EFNOTE's hi-hats (I only tested briefly at The UK Drum Show last year, didn't have enough time to get a proper idea about it).
@bobvanster
@bobvanster 2 ай бұрын
Hey mate I rented this kit vs purchasing due to my hearing sensitive issues. So far it's been not too bad with the option of purchasing it. So far I'm digging it. They did address alot of the issues the Strike had. Not being a 2 ft player. I put the front part of the rack on the ride side so I can have 3 Toms up 1 ft down. I did notice the issue with the kick
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you've been enjoying it. Do you think you'll go on to purchase it?
@bobvanster
@bobvanster 2 ай бұрын
@TheeDrumWorkshop If my hearing can tolerate it, most likely. I get almost $400 CAD and my rental fee off since it was the store demo which is in mint condition. It is cheaper than the roland DP back I had purchased 7 years back I have till the 20th to decide 🙃
@bobvanster
@bobvanster 2 ай бұрын
@TheeDrumWorkshop Like I posted on our forum. I wonder if rhe Crimson/Command style pads vs the KV style of the Strike was due to being sued by Roland which Alesis lost from what I understand.
@eDrumsInANutshell
@eDrumsInANutshell 2 ай бұрын
That was awsome, mate! Thank you! 3500$ ... Again, I will stay with my 4 eDRUMins, 6 Alesis pads, Lemon cymbals, 2x DIY snares, 2x Roland KD-7 :-) and Superior Drummer 3. And since I am as nerdy as you, everthing is dialed in perfectly. Damn, I really have to do a video for the german guys about the eDRUMin and my GAS (gear aquisition syndrome) and the Lemon cymbals. Just puchased 3 cute little 9" splash pads and a 15" china. I recently changed my setup from 2 rack toms to three. So, there is one of to high toms left. What would you do with that pad?
@sampilsbury9415
@sampilsbury9415 28 күн бұрын
Zero crosstalk or miss triggering with my Roland VAD
@davo0593
@davo0593 Ай бұрын
Hi Luke. Please if it is possible would You try the 18 inch arc cymbal with the edrumin interface? To test if you can get working all the three zones? Please please please.
@marknorton2429
@marknorton2429 2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this! Your reviews are so much more in-depth. You haven't posted a video for a while, didn't know if you were still alive! What's the deal with the promotion of this new "magnetic" hi hat controller?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark! This is sort of halfway between first impressions and a review, I suppose! The DWe review burned me out a bit so I took some time out. I did have a short point about the hi-hat but I cut it because I didn't want to get my terminology wrong. But as I understand it, it's not really entirely new. I've been told that the original 2Box hi-hat was effectively the same kind of controller and that other magnetic controllers have existed. Since I don't know all of the ins and outs of the electronics or all of the controllers that have existed, I didn't want to commit to that point on camera in case I've got the details wrong!
@OzzyMcBean
@OzzyMcBean 15 күн бұрын
11:54 would be a great thing to sample! :'D
@symunut9316
@symunut9316 2 ай бұрын
So how do you configure the outputs to play live other than left and right? That will upset sound engineers. My Strike Pro SE is great because you can adjust all toms, cymbals, kick, hat, and snare separately.
@TheTruth70777
@TheTruth70777 Ай бұрын
Just for the sound and feel, should I buy this or the Roland TD27 KV2
@Protpally70
@Protpally70 2 ай бұрын
I have had the kit for a few weeks. The kick issue drives me crazy when I play. Can’t wait to find out how to fix it.
@suatbaylav7623
@suatbaylav7623 2 ай бұрын
I have the same issue
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's not just me that's experienced this! If I find the fix, I'll be sure to update!
@johnfrith7884
@johnfrith7884 19 күн бұрын
Any luck resolving the kick issue yet?
@Protpally70
@Protpally70 19 күн бұрын
No!! I was playing Sunday. So many notes from the kick just don’t come through. So snare hits as well, but manly the kick. I have read a lot of forums, and tried different threshold settings, and sensitivity. Doesn’t help. I am at the most current firmware as well.
@johnfrith7884
@johnfrith7884 19 күн бұрын
I am sorry to hear that I was planning on buying this thing Wednesday, but I’m on the fence now I’m thinking I may try to go ahead and get an Efnote or roland I’m assuming I can get them to sound just as good as the Alesis if I add some type of other software, I don’t want something that’s not going to work this would be my first e kit I’ve played acoustic my whole life
@josephflannery6136
@josephflannery6136 2 ай бұрын
As a newer owner of this kit. I can say I am astounded by this thing. The way that it both feels AND sounds like an acoustic kit is so great. Yes, the cymbals are rubber, but their triggers are spot on. The feel of them are great, and you can see they're built pretty well. I've been having a blast with this kit ever since I've got it. My one problem I've encountered was from the drum key screw on Tom One. I went to re tighten it, and it ended up stripping, which sucks. easy to fix, but it is good to keep noted that the screws aren't the strongest and worth looking into getting some backups eventually. Other than that, however, no problems. Highly recommend
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you're enjoying it and haven't run into any issues that affect the playability. That's a shame about the screw stripping - did you have a matching gold tension rod or did you just go with a regular one?
@plazima
@plazima Күн бұрын
Hey Luke, can you help me get a snare sound I’m looking for from my td17?
@jasonwright4144
@jasonwright4144 2 ай бұрын
Could you show how you set it up to record with Reaper and how you got isolated drum tracks?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I didn't get isolated drum tracks, I just ran the two XLR outputs into two inputs on my interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20), set up a stereo track for those two inputs in Reaper and recorded those. So it's just a stereo recording of the master outputs. I also recorded the MIDI by running a DIN MIDI cable from the Prime's MIDI out to the interface's MIDI in port.
@oldcmputer
@oldcmputer 2 ай бұрын
I thought the loose cymbals were normal but I got that same issue on my roland kit :( First E-kit. Is it better for the tom/snare mesh heads to use nylon tips or am I fine w/ a fresh pair or wood tips? I don't use felt on the kick but not sure about sticks on toms for longevity / durability.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry about wood tips, I've used them for years with no issues. If you have any chips in the sticks or bits begin to fray, that's where the problems might come in. I've actually had a nylon tip damage a head before because it had a little sharp point at the end that hadn't been smoothed over. It caught the mesh and unpicked it a bit which then went on to get worse. If I was to go with nylon tips, I'd run some sandpaper over the tip to make sure.
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 Ай бұрын
On the stratas kits, is there a way of turning up and down the ‘room mics’ ? Often this is what really makes a kit sound acoustic. There very dry processed sounds are exactly that, but bring up the room mics and eberything starts to sound much more natural
@derekmaynard5619
@derekmaynard5619 13 күн бұрын
Yup there is that adjustment. Many others too. They updated the module since this and ive had very little issues. Im personally enjoying this kit like a little kid! Thats me, i also just came from an alesis dm8 lol super old and not even in the same league, so almost any upgrade would've been better. That being said, i also had a pearl export pro series acoustic kit for many ywars and the strata has brought me to that level of love again, and the sounds has captured even more love for drumming.
@arsonne
@arsonne Ай бұрын
Leaving voices in from the sample recording session is WILD.
@cheesybreadz2000
@cheesybreadz2000 21 күн бұрын
Is there another e drum kit around this price that you'd recommend over this kit right now? I'm an average skill play-at-home only drummer who just wants a decent looking and tight functioning kit to play along to my music on Spotify. I do want to get double bass with my upgrade (my current e kit doesn't support it, too small of a base pad). I didn't see you doing that here, but I have seen others using a double bass on this kit.
@petersinol
@petersinol Ай бұрын
How good are sounds of this module compared to mimic?
@gabedestellano
@gabedestellano 5 күн бұрын
There's a little bar inside? How late are they open and how big are the drinks?
@thewinegeekdan
@thewinegeekdan 2 ай бұрын
Great review!!! How does the Prime module compare sound wise to the Mimic?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 They have very different sound characters, to be honest. I feel like the Prime sounds are generally punchier in the mid-range - feels like there's a lot of presence around the 2K range and more top-end in general. They also feel very transient-heavy, but then the SSD sounds in the Mimic could be described similarly. There's a "closeness" to the Prime samples compared to the typical Slate "big room" sound. You'd be best served by just listening to as many demos as possible though really because some of that can be adjusted anyway and it's all a matter of preference.
@thewinegeekdan
@thewinegeekdan Ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thank you!!
@1974hus
@1974hus Ай бұрын
You can't beat Roland Or Yamaha when it comes to electronic kits!!!!
@outforit692
@outforit692 7 күн бұрын
Have you ever figured out the issue with the missed triggers on the kick? Or snare? Thanks in advance
@klopey8852
@klopey8852 18 күн бұрын
just got this kit and when i hit my snare and kick drum together the kick drum sound doesn’t come through
@666rbr
@666rbr 6 күн бұрын
hi, great vid! what are the dimensions assembled? thanks
@rcprod9631
@rcprod9631 Ай бұрын
Wait for v2 and they'll have addressed a lot of these issues.
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review! What band were you touring with in the USA and where did you go were you anywhere near Philadelphia?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
The band is Sonic Boom Six and we were indeed, we played at This Is Not Croydon Fest in Bensalem.
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop very cool! I’ll look them up. I live about 40 minutes from Bensalem. I actually was in a band in high school with somebody from Bensalem.
@davo0593
@davo0593 Ай бұрын
Hi luke. Will you test the arc cymbals with other modules including the edrumin?
@davo0593
@davo0593 Ай бұрын
And will you open the pads to see how are they inside?
@fVNzO
@fVNzO 2 ай бұрын
Damn this module sounds good. I know it's been beaten to death but I'm still surprised at how far ahead these more "budget" brands are to Roland these days. I think Roland is still superior in triggering and VST support off course, but if you just want an out of the box experience without the hassle of getting a VST (and without the wallet flattening experience), this is just *better* . Very good review as always. May i ask you a small question how'd you get that veneer on your PD-140DS? Is it a custom wrap? :)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I do agree that Roland are being left behind in the sounds department. I hope whatever's next is an improvement! Regarding the wrap - it's just a cheap adhesive vinyl wrap that I bought and stuck on the shell myself. I have a video that covers it along with some other upgrades I made a few years ago - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZhjicupmcm2gZ8.html
@AdversaryNemesis1124
@AdversaryNemesis1124 Ай бұрын
I really hope that Alesis sees this video!
@emanuelpelide7667
@emanuelpelide7667 24 күн бұрын
midi latency millisecond? reach roland midi latency? no positional sensing on snare right?
@KevinZ2269
@KevinZ2269 2 ай бұрын
LOL it’s funny. I’ve seen like 20 reviews on this new set, and all of them made me want it. Until this review LOL. Bummer seems like it has lots of flaws
@djashjones
@djashjones 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to find any unbiased review on anything on you tube. Too many shill's
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Sorry if I've put a downer on it for you! I would definitely recommend testing it out yourself if you get the chance to, as with any product. There's no guarantee that everyone else will run into the same things I have and going hands-on is the only way to work out if you gel with the "feel" of any kit.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
@@djashjones I think there are many reasons for different kinds of videos about products and I don't necessarily think that someone who makes a different kind of video is a shill. There are a few great reviews from people I trust. I also think the way I use or approach a kit is often different to how others might which is why different things come up. But some videos are definitely closer to promo videos than "reviews" which can make sifting through them difficult!
@djashjones
@djashjones 2 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I class you as a power user, therefore i trust you more. The other popular edrum channel is middle of the road type pro's and con's type. Then the shilling type, it's great, blah, blah.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 10 күн бұрын
This is why for me triggering is the most important. It will affect your playing. Which brand do you think has the best triggering?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 9 күн бұрын
I think that Roland generally has the best triggering of all the major brands. The Pearl Mimic Pro comes close and Audiofront's eDRUMin is also fantastic for detailed dialling in if you're only running VSTs or have a bunch of different pads, but Roland's triggering is simpler to set up, especially with their own pads. The digital pads are great too.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 9 күн бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks, mate.
@josephmedwid3790
@josephmedwid3790 Ай бұрын
It's threshold for the kick drum issue same as Roland
@fernandogoncalves7188
@fernandogoncalves7188 2 ай бұрын
Hi, do you think the strata snare will work with Strike Performance module, I made my own trigger bars, they work great with the module except for the snare,even with DIY 3 cone system.....I am thinking to buy Strata snare from Drum Tec,is not very expensive. Thanks
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I haven't tested it yet but I plan to in the future, along with testing the pads on other modules. Not sure when it'll be but stay tuned.
@fernandogoncalves7188
@fernandogoncalves7188 Ай бұрын
I have emailed Drum Tec ,and the strata snare , indeed works well with the strike performance module, Thanks
@johnfrith7884
@johnfrith7884 20 күн бұрын
Please Help I’m thinking of switching to an E kit exclusively because I cannot hear my acoustic drums through my in ears and Mics without turning the volume of the music up too loud and further damaging my hearing the bleed is too much even with custom in ear monitors and gunshot headphones over that When I’m just practicing I like to just sit behind the kit with no hearing protection any hearing protection I’ve ever used makes the drum sound crappy so I just play cold turkey. I can’t do this anymore my tinnitus is really bad. I’ve done that through my whole childhood. I’m 44 now I played on the Alesis strata prime at guitar Center, but I could only play on it a little bit with no songs to play along too just drums From what little I played on it I very much liked it Is it safe to assume that if I got an kit with headphones on playing music through with drum-less tracks that I would be able to hear much better and have better clarity and a better experience than my current set up with Drum and Mics what would be the difference between the two in clarity balance of sound with playing along to songs with in ears or headphones in your experience? Also can you make the rims on the Alesis Strata Prime sound like efx cymbals splash/china etc or can they only be made to sound like rim?crossstick clicks THANK YOU to anyone for responding I appreciate it.
@doublestrokeroll
@doublestrokeroll 2 ай бұрын
Just a couple of questions out of curiosity from a BFD user. Does this kit come with BFD kits in the module? Thought I saw that mentioned in other reviews. If so, how would you say it compares to playing BFD off a computer? Specifically the HHs. I get my hats dialed in pretty damn good with my edrumin 10 but I've always wondered how good BFD hats would sound built into a module. Anyway...great review and thanks for the content.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
It does come with some BFD kits, but they're not all BFD kits, as far as I understand it. It's running the "BFD Sound Engine", but I believe that the core "Prime" library is a new set of samples for this module. There's also the BFD "Dark Farm" expansion in the module, though I don't know if the presets that are included are taken directly from the expansion or not. Unfortunately I don't have BFD to verify anything regarding the playability between the module and the software, sorry. Edit - Oh, and there's the BFD Percussion Collection library in there too.
@doublestrokeroll
@doublestrokeroll 2 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Cool. Thanks for the response. It will be interesting to see where this goes. Perhaps a very high end Alesis with full BFD kits or something.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I would be surprised if they don't eventually offer all of the samples eventually through (probably paid) expansions.
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer Ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop The Dark Farm is 90GB so it's definitely not 1:1 on the Strata, it's some light version of it.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Ай бұрын
​​@@JustanEdrummerAh yeah, definitely not the full version then since the whole stock library is only 40GB. That could explain some of the seemingly low round robin counts I can hear on some instruments. I haven't looked into the full instrument list of that expansion either so I don't know if there's anything omitted there.
@marknorton2429
@marknorton2429 8 күн бұрын
Do you have a review of the new Zildjian kit coming soon?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 8 күн бұрын
I've not had any contact with Zildjian so far, so nothing planned as of yet.
@muzomonty6616
@muzomonty6616 2 ай бұрын
I guess the big question, is it reliable enough to use live on stage?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Currently for me - no. Others may beg to differ, but I couldn't trust it without solving the triggering issues and without having tested it for longer for durability (especially the clamps and cymbal booms).
@D-Squared
@D-Squared 2 ай бұрын
Is there not a closed foot dial to adjust how tight your full close is?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
There are settings that you can adjust for the closing point, so the physical point at which the hi-hats close. If you wanted to make the hi-hats close at an earlier point in the pedal's travel, you can do that. But there's no pressure sensitivity to allow for "extra tight". If that makes sense.
@D-Squared
@D-Squared 2 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop it does. I currently have the strike pro se and was planning on buying this. I was hoping the hot spotting would no longer be an issue. If you had the SE would you recommend upgrading to this kit?
@DoctorMcFarlandStudios
@DoctorMcFarlandStudios 26 күн бұрын
I am getting all kinds of missed hits on the Strata Prime.
@MrGaxar
@MrGaxar 2 ай бұрын
Jesus at last. I only wish your review was longer and even more depth. Please do more as I’m very interested in this kit.
@zetalin
@zetalin Ай бұрын
Hi. What size Meinl mat is that? It looks like the 4.6' x 5.25' I am trying to gauge space requirements
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Ай бұрын
*Edit - found my order invoice. It's the MDR-BK 160cm x 200 cm (so that's 5.25' x 6.5ft). I bought it as it's the same size as my Protection Racket mat.
@zetalin
@zetalin Ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks so much!
@femali
@femali 2 ай бұрын
So does the module actually have to be connected to the Internet to use it at all?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. I just knew there was a day one firmware update that I wanted to carry out without downloading it manually.
@thatboiewanc1645
@thatboiewanc1645 22 күн бұрын
God i REALLY want this kit but all these small but detrimental issues for near £3,000😫
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 2 ай бұрын
Alesis put a completely non functioning Strike Pro kit out at NAMM so I wouldn't doubt them putting it out early.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Was that back in maybe 2016 where they just showed it but didn't play it?
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer Ай бұрын
or ATV showing off the ATV Pro kit with full size shells and the ATV expansion link which never came to fruition... it's cool to show stuff but bringing them to market is another thing... I know a guy who is developing his own "Drum Module" for 10 years and still hasn't shown a single thing about it... but he says it's going to beat them all once it's done, yeah right...
@dimakeylin
@dimakeylin 2 ай бұрын
By the way, I also heard the voices at the end of the sample on some 2box drumit kits
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
😂 do you remember which kits/samples? I feel like I've heard some short snippets of either voices or other noises on some samples before, but I can't remember hearing full sentences!
@dimakeylin
@dimakeylin 2 ай бұрын
@TheeDrumWorkshop unfortunately i don't remember 😞i noticed that when i loaded the samples into the strike editor. I'm ready to swear that I also heard something like this in some individual samples from superior drummer. P.S. I googled it, indeed, I’m not the only one who noticed something similar in Superior Drummer
@eDrumsInANutshell
@eDrumsInANutshell 2 ай бұрын
@@dimakeylin No, you aren't! And this is pretty spooky - being at home, at night - on your drums and then these guys. WHAT the hell, who is ... !!?!?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I'll be on the lookout now then!
@jackfetter
@jackfetter 2 ай бұрын
For whatever reason I am not impressed with the sounds? I have watched several Strata Prime vids and they all sound flat and dry (is it me?). I have a Roland TD-9 v2 with V Expressions "Master 50" and it sounds fatter, wetter and just more pleasing (granted, personal preference may be involved). Question I have, should I go with the VAD 307 (limited TD-17 brain expansion, outputs and features), if I feel the sounds are overall better, or buy this kit and just accept the sounds are better, just maybe not what I've heard in the demos? I know the TD-17 head is limited, I'm a recreation drummer, no need for assignable outputs, additional inputs or sampling (I have a separate sampler) or extra memory. What kit would you buy today for $4K'ish? Money isn't the driving factor at all for me, I find the Alesis sounds just blah...
@jackfetter
@jackfetter 2 ай бұрын
Question 2: Drum-Tec has the VAD 307 with the TD-27 v2 module @ a great price (roughly $3,100 USD, shipped), would you still choose the Alesis Strata Prime?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
It's totally fine to not like the sounds! There is the option to wet the kits up a lot with real room ambience or reverb etc, so that could be remedied. However, if you really don't like the overall character of the samples then it just might not be for you! I don't like to give out definitive purchasing advice, but I would say generally - if you prefer what you hear from the TD-17 or TD-27 (from your second comment) then following your ears isn't a bad idea! You're going to use the kit for a long time (hopefully!) So I'd probably say it's best to start off liking the sounds then going from there rather than trying to convince yourself otherwise.
@jackfetter
@jackfetter 2 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Much appreciated, thank you!
@itsgmani
@itsgmani 2 ай бұрын
Lmfaoooooo they didn’t cut out the voices 😂😂😂😂😂
@zoktoberfest
@zoktoberfest Ай бұрын
e-drum reviewers always forget to demonstrate how the set sounds un-amplified. The whole point of e-drums for me is the ability to practice and not enrage family and neighbors.
@tlkshowhst
@tlkshowhst Ай бұрын
The problem is with the round robin cycle. Some samples are not at the same velocity as the others. Also, the talking at the end of the sample is not a good look.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 2 ай бұрын
If this was a sub-$3000 kit like the Strike-Pro SE it it would be a bargain. Now? Well, you get one less cymbal pad and downgraded drum pads instead of shallow drum shells compared to the Strike Pro SE and it's still $700 more. Of course you get the new module and sounds which is the biggest selling point. It's probably the best sounding module on the market, but with such a price increase doesn't seem like the E-drum bargain it once was, not that it's not a fair bargain, but just doesn't scream, GREAT BARGAIN!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
I agree that it might be a little overpriced with this level of performance and hardware. The module's doing the heavy lifting with the tablet-style interface and sounds, but that can only carry things so far. I've seen a few previous Strike Pro owners suggest they've been priced out with this so it'll be interesting to see how this translates.
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