What do you mean by "Representation"?

Foundation is filled with minority characters with all races and lgbt relationships. When is there enough diversity? Will people always complain there isn't enough?

This is a work of fiction what minority someone is doesn't matter. The Foundation doesn't care why should we care because I would genuinely like to know.

Just accept, and respect, the author's choice here to include these characters. You really don't have to do anything more.

For any of y'all complaining about "representation" - please just shut up. If you really don't care about there being a minority character in the stories, then just don't say anything. One reason Mars put it out there because there have been several SCP KZfaq channels that have completely whitewashed characters not just from their stories, but other authors' as well. They just want to make sure that the characters are seen as they were originally written by the authors. If you can't simply respect that, please leave any negative comments to yourself.

My God! I didn’t realize that part when I read the article! Now that it has been pointed out…who knew religious beliefs can result in so much bloodshed!

As if those name stealing little sh*ts don't deserve it.

@@krthecarguy5150 Hey, not all Fae in SCP are bad. Sure some of them have caused trouble often, but that doesn’t justify complete genocide! Especially when the motive is so their corpses can be melted down into metal!

This is actually the second time that a GoI has nuked the Fae!

@@zetanone7211 Second?! You can’t be serious! When was the first?!

Hmm, play Katamari Damacy, watch a Pixar film, and read Jane Eyre to remedy this then.

I think its just general hubris of the the fae to mess with things they think is below them. That's what gets them into so much trouble in the SCP universe. The foundation is guilty of this in a sense as well. In fae's case, it started with them taking offense at Asem's actions in kaktus verse, attacking the humans in the factory verse etc. It always seems to end with them being on the receiving end of some much needed "schooling" either by the actions of the foundation or by their own creations. In another tangent, the way that the fae "create" the children of the night in kaktus verse, is similar to the children of the forest create the white walkers in GOT, no? or is it just me?

This is one of those articles that paints The Foundation as cruel and not cold, slaughtering an entire species just to save their own. It goes to show that The Foundation only cares about what they see as important, that being either their precious veil of secrecy and/or humanity.

@@sentinel_prime In a way the Fae in the kaktus verse are like The Children in the game of thrones but worse. They used dark rituals to get their deity to create the children of the night (scp 1000) to terrorize humanity (like the white walkers) not because their forests were being encroached upon by man, but because they zeolously believed that Asem had ,front their point of view, committed a grave blasphemy against their god Titania by using his own reality bending abilities to pull a star from the heavens and turn it into a fancy crown. But ironically, after looking down upon the Fae mistreating and shunning these misunderstood "children" of her's that the Fae themselves had wished into the world, Titania turned against them and over time the Fae have been mostly forced to recede from the world save for a few pocket dimensions like scp 4000 while humanity continued to flourish. The Fae's efforts to punish Asem in the end, only yeilded a far worse outcome for their own kind. Their undoing was their own doing.

@@7ElevenTruther maybe it was an inspiration from GOT? Don’t know when the first article of kaktusverse was published though. Yeah they screwed themselves over big time. No wonder the sky kings didn’t feel bad when they went to war against them later in the timeline. Guess the anger and pride of humanity clashed with the pride of fae in that universe as an eventuality!

Yeah like Edgar Allan Poe, never heard of him before The Exploring Series did an audiobook about him (/j)

The SCP wiki material has evolved and improved in ways I couldn’t have imagined in the seven years I’ve been a fan. It’s a fantasy sandbox for first time fan-fiction writers and talented aspiring authors.

@@elizathegamer413 omgoodness!? The Telltale Heart The Raven Annabelle Lee You're Welcome.

@@c.thompson9771 yea dont think to hard on it

So sorry if you haven't used tone indicators before but the /j meant I was joking

Frostpunk plus Fae holocaust

It's also interesting that it seems to follow the "law and order" from frostpunk lol

Yep, if fey appear they most likely will get murdered

They regularly steal identities, taking from people everything that makes them who they are, so why shouldn't they be subject to the same?

@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 True. Those who fuck with humanity should also suffer the same fate

You could say however that your name is the Fae's way of talking about your "soul"/consciousness and Jack Bright only has the one

@@theboneman1938 but his soul doesn’t reside in his body, it resides in an amulet. If anything the fairy would be able to switch into the body Dr. Bright is using at the time, but not expel Bright himself. If anything this should be a “two minds, one body” situation, with bright and the fairy fighting for control of this current body (which would only be for a few weeks seeing as how bright has to get a new body regularly or end up making copies of his own consciousness). If not that then either the amulet completely overrides the fairy or the fairy overrides the amulet which seems to be what happened, but again she’ll be caught in a few weeks when they transfer the amulet and nothing happens

It shouldn't even work. As soon as Bright is expelled from his body the amulets power should start and eventually take over the body again, killing the fairy.

@@Lyth13 it probably took over the Amulet

Bright was the only one it could have been, since he's immortal. Otherwise there would have been questions when it became obvious the fae wasnt aging. Bright was the amulet itself, so when the fae stole the name he also became the amulet, and bright was shunted into his current host or possibly the faes body.

I like how subtle the humour is in these videos. Adds a lot of character

For the video it looks that O5-2 was a maxwellist for they fever opposition to at least investigate what was going on there and being an O5 well they can easily stop or delay the foundation in doing something...

Yeah, I liked the test logs, but this story literally feels like they took the twist from that one GRU-P SCP and splattered a whole bunch of genocide and holicost imagery and had the characters play hot potato with the idiot ball.

I hate how the fae are portrayed as basically elves as opposed to the more classical, dangerous complicated creatures who's very nature demands that you follow an intricate series of rules lest you wind up cursed. Also it's funny how the Maxwellists were able to enter the "Court of Oberon" and kill so many fae in spite of all the crazy rules and restrictions they are under such as: 1.04 Type 1 subjects must avoid accepting or directly handling that which could be considered a valuable resource. This includes (but is not limited to) forms of currency, precious metals and stones, objects imbued with useful anomalous properties, and WELL-CRAFTED WEAPONRY. Like an iron sword

It literally states that

Saint somehow recognizes the fey to be a liar, immediately decides to trust fey and play a game, then immediately lies in game you are not supposed to lie in.

Absolutely, this is why this channel is the best SCP channel on KZfaq.

Yeah I've been following this guy since he started doing scps, the SCP community hella chose him , his editing and video format is great . He has a video where he talks about getting into the final fantasy series and about where he wants his channel to go and it hella didn't go where you wanted it to it seems to just went to scp's

@@davidpash2169 he's stuck with scp now, look at every video that's different from scp and it gets no views

Check out the Volgun , he frames these in a different way as well

Dr Bob anyone?

100%, like there was so many things like no sense, for one bright would not have swapped due to him being a scp, he would just fight for control is a great example

They're all just weird fan stories.

I mean yeah I get what you mean but thats what all SCPs are

Yeah, the lack of subtlety ruins it for me too. Everyone is acting out of character

Politics= menial? Lol wow

That's because the author is a woke weirdo with bullshit pronouns.

pretty sure its a different bright

Good to see a lot of people agree on this.

I have to agree. The characterization doesn't feel right here, while the story commands things to turn out the way they do.

is it ridiculous that very little in the way of fighting climate change has been put in place by world governments? because like the allegory of the story is incredibly blatant and the frustration you feel with the foundation in this story is supposed to be the emotion this elicits in you

@@Maya-he2de The reality is that climate change isn't the end of the world, and governments have been making stupid decisions on how to fix it. We need more people out of poverty and more people innovating. What we need is more nuclear power but people are so afraid of it they decide to go with things that don't actually work like solar panels and wind turbines. It's also not the fault of the politicians because they will only do what will keep them in office, and politicians that are for nuclear don't get elected easily.

@@Maya-he2de no my frustration is the foundation sitting by and letting the world be destroyed due to the Fae being exterminated. If the message behind the story was about climate change. It was poorly implemented.

That's true also wasn't saying the fae names just as risky as telling them your own? SCP 4000 article goes out of its way not to give any of the fae in there any names and yet here all the fae have unique nemes.

@@GangurEXE yeah. Giving something a name is just as bad. Which is why scp 4000 is called something different all the time. If they actually gave the forest an actual name it is just like giving your name to them. This isnt a well written scp, it took established lore and butchered and abused it to make a mediocre story that the author thought was so deep and meaningful. The author stood on the shoulder of giants that came before and made the literary equivalent of a tiktok video with sad music playing reciting some shallow poetry.

@@fallendeus5641 Boy oh boy, that comment was brutal. I agree with you though. One could write a text longer than the article itself by just listing all the plotholes. "Where does the snow come from?", "why wasn't "saint" good enough as a name?", "why do all the fairies have names now?", "why wouldn't the *Secure* - Contain - *Protect* Foundation secure or protect the fairies, one of its most volatile anomalies?", "why would the foundation let a well known GOI act freely with no concern about its ultimate motives?", "How could you steal Dr. Bright's name if he has the Amulet?", "Wouldn't Bright's interview be layered with security measures designed to deal with fae?", "wouldn't Hedwig be contained as an anomaly by the fact that she can anomalously transform fae folk into pygnite?", "what actual benefit was there for the foundation in working with the Maxwellists, who created the problem in the first place?"... This article could have been really good, but the execution broke and broke my suspension of disbelief far too many times. And the worst part is, that the impression I get is the one you described: the try-hard edgy-deep nature of the story makes it feel so shallow that in the end it defeats the point, and doesn't get its message across.

@@fallendeus5641 OK relax nerd scp 4000 isn't that great either. This is written fine

@@grilledleeks6514 You dont understand. SCP-4000 is involved here and this scip is written by someone who doesnt understand how SCp-4000's rules work

Or, barring that, articles where they’re actually cold and goal-oriented to the point of being cruel and evil, rather than articles like this where they act in incomprehensibly stupid ways that run completely counter to their stated goals and motivations just so that the story can have an evil Foundation as the villain.

Another W for the sensible Foundation who managed to help the Finfolks

What you dont like the Foundation acting like a modern government?

@@Lrr_Of_Omikron The thing is. The Foundation are not your average government run by mumbling idiots. This Organization is made up by the Brightest and Intelligent mind to exist and is ruled by a bunch of monsters that seeks to protect humanity, there is no wrong on sometimes making the Foundation somewhat incompetent for the plot buut this one is literally just filled with foxhole and a bruh moment for a renowned researcher.

​@@Lrr_Of_Omikron If they "acted like a modern government", they would be doing evil because they think they stand to benefit from it in some manner. As it stands in this story, they're doing evil things because the plot requires them to do evil things so that they can be the villain, even though the things they're doing completely goes against any internal motivations they could possibly have. They're a literal strawman, made to do stupid and evil things because they represent a group that the author thinks is stupid and evil. The thing is, though, they really don't have to be. The story as it stands COULD work if: a) It's clearly implied that the O5's are fully aware of the fairy genocide from the very beginning, and are intentionally condoning it through inaction because they kinda hate fairies anyways and think it won't affect their mission of the continuing survival of humanity, until the consequences become too big to ignore and it blows up in their faces. b) The initial effects of the anomaly are subtle enough that they CAN be plausibly dismissed as non-anomalous by the O5's without them coming off as complete morons. Like, make it a drop in average temperature in the Amazon followed by a mass die-off - unlike a blizzard in the Amazon, that's something that COULD be reasonably written off as just an effect of mundane climate change. Or, alternatively, you could make it a story about corruption, with a rabidly anti-anomaly or anti-Fae O5 Council that has forgotten WHY the Foundation S, C and P's in the first place (to protect humanity), and is willing to take every possible measure to continue the fairy genocide even if it means the end of civilization as we know it, because they could care less about what happens to the rest of the world as long as the Foundation gets to stand victorious over a mountain of dead fairies. You could potentially even imply that it's the Foundation didn't just condone the Maxwellists but actually *baited* them in by leaving the well to 4000 open and unguarded; such that at the end of the story, the Foundation is deceiving the Maxwellists into thinking that the Foundation is working *with* them, when in reality they've been playing into the Foundation's hands the entire time. Having the Foundation being characterized as either doing stupid things because they're misguided short-sighted, or doing *seemingly* stupid things that are actually part of an evil and Machiavellian plan, would both make for a much more compelling metaphor for the inaction of real-world governments to climate change, and would fit the Foundation's established characterization. Look no further than Project Palisade (of which TES has done an excellent multi-part reading of) that manages to pull off BOTH in a really interesting way. Whichever one the author wants, though, it's not my job as a reader to bend over backwards ascribing motivations with no supporting textual evidence just to make the story not completely stupid - it's the *author's* job to write it into the story. My issue with this article isn't that it's a transparent metaphor for the government response to climate change, but that it's a potentially interesting concept that's been so incompetently handled.

My exact thoughts by 37:00. They know what's up so shut down the source. But I guess the resources provided by the process ended up triggering a gold or oil rush

yeah sadly the shift to more narrative tales than scientific article also brought with it the cheap "make it edgy to make it interesting"

@@PsicoPrime Volgun does the science but perfect.

The Maxellians are religous fanatics. They are not going to stop. The Foundation waited too long so they are caught in a paradoxical trap. To survive they need Pygnite, but pygnite harvesting is the reason they need pygnite to begin with. They let the process go too long before they realized they were in a trap, now they can't escape it.

@@alw2839 why are we taking about volgun lol, the article had a more narrative perspective and lost out on a bit of the ‘scientific’ details

I like it. He usually doesn't swear (because there's no need), but doesn't change the citations to "freaking" or whatever. It's good, shows he has a lot of integrity and respect for the original work, whatever it would be.

Wait TES said some swear words in this one? Now I gotta rewatch it since I dont remember hearing him say any.

I agree with you.

I agree. Some of the interactions and situations were interesting, but overall this one is lacking depth and meaning for all its length and complexity. Still, not the worst SCP out there.

I’m just glad Bright finally got to die, god knows that man needed it

That's because the author is a hack who used the story as a vehicle for their tokenism.

Bright's "assassination" working at all seems nonsensical, as does the fact that the fairy got away with it. You don't think half the council was watching that exchange? Brains abuzz with mnestic drugs and enchantments? It'd be more ominous if it was made clear that she didn't get away with anything, and she in Bright's body was not let out of that chamber, but that they allowed her onto the council in Bright's place for other reasons she never could have foreseen, and which are not explained.

it would.

I imagine she would take over his body for a moment, but she would be slowly overwritten by his amulet, killing her mind and rendering her efforts useless

Or maybe Bright never got the amulet in this reality.

Most likely.

Bad writing

One of a few plot holes, yeah. I assume the real Dr. Bright is still in the amulet, just nameless now.

@@TheBlazzer12 I mean if the fairy is wearing the amulet, dr. bright should have his body back in no time.

Ironically his name was stolen and slapped on someone else before being stolen again by the fae

The 05 Dr. Bright is JACK Bright's father Jack refused to be an 05

Is the amulet specifically about naming? Otherwise I don't see why it would be part of the switch effect. Taking a name has nothing to do with persons body it's only effect is nomenclature. So anyone who KNEW Dr bright is in the amulet, would think of the Fae as being in it, but the Fae wouldn't actually be in it . People have a really hard time understanding the nomenclature thing.

Indeed.

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. I actually loved the short story with the fairy kid escaping the Maxwellist genocide, but I had to do a spittake when it was revealed that the SCP foundation is working with the Maxwellists. I know we shit on the Ethics Committee a lot, but this is when it SHOULD come into play. The SCP foundation should know better than committing genocide and turning fairies into sentient bricks of agony, and I’m frankly disappointed that they have chosen to stoop to the Maxwellist’s level to keep themselves alive. Also, the part about ignoring the voices of the pig iron makes me sick. The foundation rarely lies about anything in their documents, and even then it’s usually for the good of the reader from a cognitohazard or something. But this is just lying to the employees to save themselves from the liability of morality.

I was under the impression that the SCP wasn't aware that the fairies were being attacked at first. So now that the damage is done, the believe that making more pygnite is the best thing to do.

@@UnstableEquilibrium But making more pygnite seems to be causing the snowstorm, and you’d think a foundation focused on maintaining baseline reality would rather preserve as many snow-free areas as possible while finding an alternative energy source to fight entropy…

@@sugarkane1571 I'm also assuming they did the math and figure that pygnite is their best bet even if it is making things worse.

No one said that. While they're normally more favorable than say the sarkites that dosen't mean they're automatically the good guys

The mekanites are often showed as the good guys, but in reality they are unknowingly the bad guys. Bringing back mekane would bring about the end of the world. Sarkics are trying to stop that from happening.

What seems to get them in trouble is their attempts to resurrect Mekane. Both attempts were disastrous.

right?!? so nice to see exploration into their darker potential when the mekanite / sarkic split is so often boiled down to "alright / evil"

I like when the Mekanites are painted in a more grey area. I always like stories where the Mekanites are the good guys, but I always enjoy a good old Mekanites do bad things. That’s what religion is like, after all.

I think he just has better equipment now.

This SCP is what happens when Twitter and Reddit people are left to their own devices on the wiki. It's also the perfect example of why the quality dropped off fairly hard after the old community exodus. So many inconsistencies, power fantasies and badly executed attempts at deep writing just for the sake of it.

The most cringeworthy part is how it tries to play off “THE INGOTS ARE FAIRIES!!!” as a serious twist, as if it’s not immediately obvious from the get-go.

@@hudo108 I don’t really believe it’s Reddit/Twitter people that are making these articles. I think it had something to do with the 6K contests itself, more so with the theme that was selected which was ‘nature.’ Dr. Cimmerian said it best, where the #K contests themes are so broad that anyone can write whatever they want, and then just slap in the theme just so it can be accepted in the contests. And the contests also have a limited time (1-2 months if I recall) to pitch an idea, write drafts, get feedback to edit drafts, rinse and repeat up until the contest is near its end and you gotta make your submissions. Then for the next 3 months you post, and wait for everyone read your article and vote on it. Of course highest votes win. I think that because they have a limited timeframe to work with, they have to come up with something that somehow fits with the themes. And to me, that doesn’t really sound like a good idea. Because you would never want to rush art, let alone stories. And the ones that TES covered are usually ones where the foundation are depicted as evil, incompetent, apathetic, generally in a negative light. It’s a tripe that has been here since Series 1 (Example: SCP-054 The Water Nymph) I think these writers have stuck with this trope because I think they believe that they’re making something “fresh” when in reality, it’s just easy to put the blame on an shadowy organization that isn’t restricted by any government, isn’t known by the public, and is basically a militarized prison. And honestly, yeah, I’m sick of the trope too. It’s been done to death for years. And some of my favorite articles are when the Foundation does some actual good. Which TES has most definitely covered. And even some other 6K articles are actually really good and deserve more attention. (SCP-6200 & SCP-6783 for starters.) which show the foundation actually trying to do some good. While also fitting with the themes of nature. Again, I don’t think it’s Twitter/Reddit or left-wing politics are to blame for some of these articles. Because these writers have definitely put in a lot of time and effort into these articles. But they did rely on tropes namely “Foundation bad and dumb” and to me, that’s just being lazy.

Yeah the main thing that strains my suspension of disbelief is having pignite being seemingly the ONLY source of heat that they can use in to stay warm, to the point they don't appear to have pursued any other option whatsoever.

Their Headcanons are the definition of r/iam14andthisisdeep

I'm still confused how it could be snowing in the Amazon and the Foundation wonder if it could snow in a rainforest... how extreme is climate change if that's anything close to non anomalous

Yeah. I've got to agree with you on this one. Through a strong conscious effort, I managed to hang in there and keep my suspension of disbelief _(barely hanging by a thread)_ till the end, because I rather enjoyed some aspects of this story and wanted to know where it was going, what the author was going to do with the world he built. And while it's not a bad story in and of itself, as there are some solid elements like the Fae Protagonist & the atmosphere & world building in the first third/half of the article, in the end everything falls apart for 2 main reasons: 1- Too many plot holes, most of which are gaping/huge and creating some intense head scratching problems as we all try to follow the story while making sense of the into that's being fed to us. An example, that was really the nail in the coffin for me, was "where does the blizzard/snow come from?" It started as a simple nuclear winter ash snowfall but somehow became a real cold weather phenomenon that's expanding and of anomalous nature, although none of it is explained nor makes any sense. Tess' hypothesis about a link with the Fae/Pignite expelling/creating water is really trying to grasp at nothing _(and shows what happens when you try too hard to correlate plot elements)_ as what I gathered from the Pignite being covered in water after being subjected to torture when reunited & left in silence with other Pignite "pieces"/entities?? Another major logic issue as it's clear that the metal contains some remnant of the Fae's consciousness, but at multiple points in the story they talk about harvesting parts of the whole (body)... so what happens then? Are all pieces made from the same individual somehow copies and each sentient? Or are they only sentient when all gathered or a big enough part? Doesn't make any sense once again! Well. What I gathered from the mention of water covering the "stones" seemed to me more like the author suggesting that these were tears than anything else... Certainly *not* the origin of the storm's water! 2- The other *MAJOR* issue that you mentioned, that is so important that it probably even supersedes the gruyère plot (Swiss cheese) & tons of continuity and logic problems, is that the author strays too far from the SCP Foundation's "Core Canon". Dr Bright, besides the fact that he's one of the warmest & most compassionate character out there, which is clearly the reason he was chosen, has this whole "Soul Necklace" thing going on, which is very problematic in this story as it would probably offer immunity to the Fae's Name Magic to swap bodies... Or at the very least it raises lots of serious questions, issues, none of which are addressed... I won't list all the other deviations from the SCP Universe's Canon as you did a good job. It's just that, *even with such a loose and extremely flexible Canon,* the author still manages to brutally shatter our suspension of disbelief by having well established characters, GOIs and organizations, act in ways that are just way too far off what is believable to allow for the reader to accept these acts. Like you said, the SCP Foundation would *never* have acted this way! ~> In the end, everything wrong with this article boils down to one single, common but always fatal mistake on the part of the author, one you just never can get away with: having elements (characters, items, organizations, etc.) happen and be there only to serve the story, regardless of if it makes sense or not. That's how characters are made to behave totally "out of character." If I'm not being clear enough, take the following example as an analogy of my point: Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi!!! That's *not* Luke Skywalker... Everything he does and says goes against the very spirit, the essence of the character, everything he ever stopd for, and is he's there only to serve the story, to make it go where the "author" wants, managing to bastardize and desecrate our common modern culture and myths, commiting the most Vile of Cardinal Sins in Storytelling and Fan Service/Respect!

Most SCP articles nowdays love portraying the Foundation as the most dumbass people to exists.

To be fair, I usually just look at these stories as a Multiverse and sweep away inconsistancies as just being minor variences. Like in this version clearly SCP-4000 wasn't a very high priority for the foundation considering the Maxwellists got as far as nuking the place without the Foundation interfearing.

Why would body swapping even work on Bright, wouldn't she just get suppressed by the necklace unless Bright decided to take it off?

first time?

I know it hurts, but at least he's regular on his uploads

Hmm, there is a moral and ethical mismatch tho. You cant blame bystanders with committing a crime. While surely a grey area ethically, there is a pretty firm distinction between someone who commits something, and someone who does nothing to prevent it. Its two distinct categories, at least to the point where if you were to take revenge on the neutral bystander, you'd be considered to be fully and completely in the wrong. You can despise people for not helping you, but you have no place or basis for blaming them. That would be a level of entitlement that instantly puts you into the morally and ethically wrong position.

@@nonusbusinissus5632 no its more like a policeman or a fire fighter not being able to save lives

I got that impression too. And as the "newest" 05 Bright had no way of really countering that.

Whats with 02 in stories acting the most stupid for some reason?

It doesn't make sense how a fairy can take over Bright's "body" considering he is a consciousness trapped inside a magical amulet. The moment the fairy took over the body, Bright's conciousness would just overwrite it

It varies by canon, but it’s not uncommon for the Fae to be presented as the Foundation’s oldest enemy, with the most popular example being the Factory -001 specifically describing a Fae-Foundation war. Kaktusverse also has the Fae as mankind’s mortal enemy, and while it’s been a while since I read -4000 I’m pretty sure the implication was that the Foundation was at some point in the past directly responsible for the Fae’s current status as nameless entities. If there’s any group the Foundation would be more than happy to sit by and watch get genocided, the Fae would probably be at the top of that list.

Also , it feels *WEIRD* to me the idea of the Broken God folks against the Faeries Like , I'll give it to the author , it's unique , but feels *off*

Cannon. Lol

> An O5 brings up a valid worry > A singular other O5 shuts it down > No voting :0

It’s contract/rule Magic. It probably requires specific rules like a Devil deal

@@Master_E444 The game specified that the first to lie loses, the question was: "What is *your* name?" The saint gave somebody else's name, it's a lie, the saint lost. Then again, if the saint was actually smart, she would've just killed the fairy instead of playing it's game. There's an old saying: Stupid people play stupid games lol.

@@Master_E444 And the question was "what is your name" not what is a name you stole. Even if you steal a name it does not become your name. Based on old folklore and legends around name magic/ True names if someone gives their True name it may be taken and that gives the taker power in some way but taking a name does not make it your name. So answering the question "what is your name" with anything other than you name is a lie in this situation

This is what doesnt make sense to me. Maybe the story is false and the Saint lost, but that would mean a fairy is moving the biggest fairy slaughter, it is weird.

@@Akumetsubg this makes it 10x more amusing and interesting.

its kinda weird how ethics committee doesn't do anything

Dont worry about it, this Canon is doomed lol

@@killianjudemisagal9754 Probably because it didn’t have anything to do with humans.

A massive blizzard in the Amazon Rain Forest absolutely affects humans. Even if the SCP Foundation doesn’t care on principle if the Fae get slaughtered, they absolutely WOULD care about its apparently lethal after-effects. This entire story falls apart when the entire O5 Council decides to bury their heads in the sand for no conceivable reason and ignore a highly unusual and publicly visible event that should at the *very least* be further investigated to confirm or refute its anomalous nature. The author fails to give a compelling reason for why the Foundation would blatantly go against their prime directive of maintaining the veil of normalcy, because they didn’t act like idiots then the story wouldn’t work.

@@sssspider that's exactly my problem with that the foundation. They were idiots. and allowed that mess to happen. I kept waiting for a reveal in which the 0-5 council was being mind-controlled by the church of the Church if the Broken God. But that never came up.

It gives us something different so what’s wrong with it? Uniqueness is a very good thing I enjoyed this new perspective a lot. Stories at the end of the day are better then scps since they are more detailed instead of simply reports, so even if you say it seems that it’s just a story molded into the scp universe I find that idea pretty entertaining.

@@satanpills6232 To me, the thing about the foundation I love is that regardless of how little each SCP connects to one another, together all of them build a cohesive world (even if some of them do directly contradict each other sometimes). It’s just my personal opinion, but stories like this destroy that cohesion for me. The established way the foundation works is completely upended, and it doesn’t (at least to me) add anything to the narrative by doing that rather. It doesn’t become more interesting to me because the foundation can’t do their jobs, it feels like a writing crutch. If you enjoyed that’s great, I just wanted to try to explain why I didn’t.

@@ethanh5978 Yep that’s perfectly fine, I just wanted to give my own opinion

@@satanpills6232 Understandable, have a nice day!

It's almost like the author had The Foundation act like the GOC for the sake of "the plot"... No.. no I take that back. I don't think even the GOC would have been as dumb.

@@Exile_Sky I'm not familiar with how the GOC behaves, although I get a sense from your comment. The foundation has always been fascistic, but this was just appalling.

@@matbroomfield the GOC basically operates on a Nazi/Imperium of Man type agenda, that basically goes: "everything unnatural/inhuman must die"

@@matbroomfield The Foundation is fascistic, with a very specific purpose. To "Secure" (anomalies), "Contain" (anomalies), and "Protect" (reality). In a lot of cases this includes the things they are securing and containing. The Foundation would never, under any circumstances, ignore something as blatant as snow over the rain-forest. This was actually the straw that broke me. The Foundation would never not send a MTF or researcher group to find out what is going on. No not even if an 05 said not to, since individual 05s don't determine Foundation policy. They are called a council for a reason. They are especially blatantly out of character when they have barged into Middle of Nowhere America and amnestisized entire towns over a slight uptick in missing person's cases in order to find an anomaly. Never-mind that The Foundation has held to a "Don't try to kill it unless there is a provable way to not just create a new problem" mentality. A lot of early SCPs were straight up warnings as to why trying to destroy an anomaly before you understand exactly what it is, is a VERY BAD IDEA. The results of early attempts is why the Foundation is very rules oriented (fascistic), its why The Foundation will feed human lives into a literal meat grinder to keep said meat grinder in a box for another 2 weeks, which is horrifying and dehumanizing but from their perspective, needed. For a while articles kept this up, but a lot of the recent ones either make The Foundation out to be cartoon villain levels of stupid or act like the GOC (Global Occult Coalition) where nothing matters if the goal of destroying or subjugating anomalies "might" be achieved or like MC&D (Marshall, Carter, & Dark) and are sleazy opportunists out for self gain. (See the story about the "Yggdrasil" life tree thing. That one actually pissed me off a great deal. The Foundation is not MC&D, they do not act for profit.) The SCP universe has good villain organizations with established goals, methods, and even a good deal of mystery to them to allow for plenty of expansion, but articles like this one either make the Foundation into those "enemy" organizations or completely butcher their general behavior for the sake of their narrative.

@@mango_raider4116 Ahh right. Thank you for clarifying that.

Why, what's the big deal with the two?

@@michaelandreipalon359 funny number

one day brother

What, the number two, the former SCP's first two numbers on its designation, or the latter SCP's numerical title?

Giggity

I got holocaust imagery over and over. I'm not a fan of the Fae bieng turned into utility objects but I guess it's a viable plot reason for the foundation to be assisting in genocide instead of preventing it.

It's kinda cringe. The way its written sounds like its being romanticized: the diary of the Fae child, gave me those kind of vibes.

This isn't an SCP article, it's a moralistic story about 'genocide bad, mkay'. Good technical writing at times, terrible characterization, and all the subtlety of a chick tract.

@@DarkVeghetta The technical writing was not good, it's littered with plot holes.

@@bliss7470 There, I qualified it. It did have good technical writing in certain parts, but it all went down hill by the mid-point.

If good stands it's ground, evil will destroy itself.

@@allmight9840 Go beyond, PLUS ULTRAAAA!!!!!!!!!

It was “stolen”

Its a good question. Because if jack bright in that timeline had the amulet, he would have many names to choose from without lying. But in fairness, probably not eckhart. Although, the fae said she had stolen eckharts name. . . Either way, it worked out well for the story.

It was stolen, so it belonged to the saint.

That the thing is with scp being such an open source website, there are many stories that would agree with you but then there would be many stories that argue they are the scp foundations there worst enemies.

@@Parasolhyena we usually assume theyre alternate realities

@@joey_bonzo i mean she was not days later thrust into a situation where she could die at any moment. i dont think it's like great writing or anything but i don't think her trauma not coming through in her diary entries is the bad part

the prose also just clunks and prattles along. even very skilled writers often have to go through multiple bouts of revision with an editor: excising shit they thought was great but is actually bad, tightening things up, killing their darlings etc. scp authors are not very skilled and don't seem to have an editor at all. or if they do he's also an amateur.