I honestly find it kinda fun being the underdog at times

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Playing the OP character can also sometimes being boring as hell

That's why op characters work best in single player games. No one has to play against Mr. OP.

And when the opponent is incapable of feeling frustration. Soooo singleplayer it is.

I like this interpretation. Essentially the most balanced game is one where everyone has the exact same tools and resources and that's just boring. Like yeah a game like Overwatch could be perfectly balanced if there was exactly 1 DPS/Tank/Support hero and everyone was forced to play the same thing in each role. But by diversifying the roles so that some DPS are better at area control while others are more long range or short range and so on, and doing the same for each class, it makes the game more interesting. And the way you balance it is by giving them tradeoffs. Reaper does a ton of damage and has self-sustain capabilities, but his trade off is that he has to get really close to actually hurt anyone.

I loved that last sentence… Hey… Imagine this: You see yourself (and your team, maybe) dying, in SloMoCam… Then you are at the start of the scene. You got a chance to NOT DIE! But HOW? What can you do? What can you change? Who can help you? Who could obstruct you?! Time’s running out… One Chance… to NOT DIE

@@BlazeMakesGames i can throw ffxiv online around here because when ya playing as a dps or in a party with one you just see crap drop dead left and right because they can single target, well with the occasional AOE (gonna start comparing rouge class and marauder/warrior class gameplay) but as a warrior i have a AOE move and agro gen out the tail but my ability to kill so FAR FAR shorter then if i killed the same foe as a rouge but i can also for more sustainable and longer save my self by just eating damage of many folks at face. and as a final fantisy game we got limit brake and the short is ya get one bar for the whole party and depending who limit breacks depends on the reaction ie tank gives whole team defence boost the up to the sky and healer/supports just megga aoe heal (also for the love of god if you want short time for joining dungeons get healer or tank but healer is instant) and depending on your dps type you do huge one shoting strike or aoe strike. as every class but tank is squishy so unless your tank main is dead and gone you are gonna get flattened in any evernt in dungeons so ya need the healer and tank to be on each other well or death will come to the party.

@@BlazeMakesGames precisely my point. So like your example with reaper. You know that you have to get close to actually do anything. So you plan your entire playstyle around it, by waiting or by getting your teammates to create those openings.

LOL. This is such a narrow interpretation. Yes specialisation has a good part to play, but it goes beyond that and specialisation is NOT the be all and end all.

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Some things can be like the Halo 1 pistol is blanced it's the DMR of the game. But the halo 2 BR and Duel welidng SMGs are unbalanced as they break the deisgn of the game by being OP and making everthing else even power weapons near pointless... Like I go around with duel weilding pistols and it isn't fun to a normal gamer to be at that kinda of disavantage with guns that should be in balance with each other as per the desing intent. In Pokemon the power creep is real and easly fixable they just don't for some reason. It all depends on desing intent and when broken then it's OP.

The video would have really benefited from defining what overpowered means to him. Like, things can be both asymmetrical AND overpowered because of a different input/output ratio.

@@xKumei I agree a definition would make sense. By these standards, over or under powered seems to equate to just not being equal at all times.

The distinction between powerfull and overpowered is one of context, an OHK move can be anywere between OP and useless based in how often it is the best option available.

mechanics should be balanced a game should be picked by anybody and easy to understand

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I would have liked more examples regarding the latter as well. A truly overpowered choice is one where the player has no reason not to go for it and how to fix it. With e.g. the limit breaks in FF7 (original) overriding the attack prompt: While the game urges you to use it as soon as possible you can hold off (defending/using magic etc) and save it for a tough fight. So if let yourself be clobbered by weak enemies that pose no threat to you before a boss fight you have the best attack ready at the start of the fight and can trivialise essentially everything in the game. They went for a more interesting option in FF9 where your character instantly goes into trance (going Super Saiyan) once having received enough cumulative damage - meaning that actively building up to that might actually backfire when its activated during an easy battle.

His point was that the gaming community at large tends to conflate things that are actually a problem for the game with things that are just strong but enhance the game.

Thank you

I feel like the point of the video was exactly that people are being too fast to call things overpowered without considering the wider context that mean it's not actually "over" at all. How yes, the double sixes are, indeed, the strongest option, but people shouldn't go online to shout about how op it is and scream at the devs after being on the recieving end of the 1/36 chance.

@@Diamon_Boots if it was, then he didn't show examples of that.

i feel you entirely missed the point of this video, this is talking about how something that is objectively the best can be a good thing and be balanced in the overarching game. he talks about how allowing something to be objectively overpowered in one since or another with another aspect being is limit or counterplay, this gives more of the game chances to shine. without this games get very stagnant, everything has to be equal to everything else, thats why you lose joke characters because no deviation is allowed to prevent something becoming "overpowered". i take it simply as balance is not being equal its not allowing something to strictly dominate the way you play.

@@lewis1423 i would argue you are talking about different definitions of balance OP was talking about the overall game balance - for example in a MP game giving either side a roughly even chance at winning (assuming comparable levels of skill with the game) you are talking about the balance of individual mechanics - for example if said MP game were a shooter and all weapon choices coming to roughly equal DPS a violation of the first kind of balance would mean the game develops a dominant strategy/playstyle that pretty much everyone who wants to win will use a violation of the second kind without a violation of the first, would start favouring counter strategies to the overpowered thing until their prevalence causes the players to shift away from a commonly countered strategy towards other options - this creates somewhat of an ebb and flow between common strategies

Asymmetric VS is a really interesting concept

Yeah, I loved the idea and playing it a little bit, but it didn’t have enough time to… evolve into a better game

@@SpinningTurtle66 If 2K didn't screw up, and allowed TR to finish the major update planned for Stage 2 (canceled mid-way due to them pulling the plug), I think it could've possibly survived long enough for a console re-release. Unfortunately neither happened. If it released today, given all the horrid DLC/MTX shit allowed by consumers, it likely could've been on the same level as DBD and other similar 4V1 games in terms of player count. I don't think Evolve, at least from what it was at the time, could have ever been a major title, but certainly a mid-tier gem. The only issues the game ever had (imo) was balancing (next to DLC characters), and that simply could be solved through more analysis of player interactions and trying different approaches to balance, all of which required more time than it was given.

Yeah, I could really see the core concept working (1 v many multiplayer where the lone player gets powerful over time), but it would probably need some serious re-working that a AAA publisher isn’t going to accept. Hell, make it 4 vs 4 and killing an alien is what makes the others stronger, so that the humans are forced to fight the aliens

@@no_genius I think a plausible solution to Evolve's "monster running" could have simply been more tools for the hunters to trap/lock off areas quicker/easier, or simply punish the monster for not engaging, by giving less consumption benefits from wildlife or something else to encourage engagement. In regards to your either change to Evolve, or a separate idea: If you mean killing an alien buffs the other 3 aliens, and then other 2, etc. that could maybe be an interesting game concept, but I also think it would become discouraging to die and have to wait while dead (if there's nothing beyond death). Though it also could add to the hunters by giving them upgrade(s) based on the killed alien, perhaps random if anything. I don't believe there are any current 4VX games that have such a concept(s), but I think the idea alone would be interesting to see.

Prime example would be "DOTA riff with a better anime". Sword of the Occult (which gave a stacking AD buff on kills, lost on deaths) was fun to play with, especially if you took a character not meant to be played full AD and built them for raw damage. They removed it because the ten best Koreans in the world didn't have a use for it.

absolutely, last PVP game i played was quake champions, and the reason as to why is it still uses OG game balance methods, there are things that arguibly overpowered still work and feel fair, meanwhile everything else is just some boring meta game BS

obligatory bringing up of overwatch here. thanks for ruining all the characters i cared about, blizzard!

Yeah, they should focus on making a game fun before even thinking about balance. its easier to do a good game this way, than the other.

I personally don't even bother with multiplayer. It's just a hassle.

In every metroid game, you're an unstoppable killing machine by the end, for about 15 minutes, and then lose it all by the start of the next game. My favourite no-power take is probably Ori, where in normal games you would unlock double jump, in Ori you basically start with double jump + wall run, and end with triple jump +wall run +wall jump +glide +ricochet

Which works because the bosses are unfair bastards the first 12 times

@@ingvarsuigin609Samus simply never learns

Man he is so bad tho. Medusa vs Viper mid in this patch? Neither can do their job as mid. Dusa can't farm neutral camps and Viper can't create threat, since both of them are slow AF. Medusa excells at pushing out waves with minimal interaction then farm neutrals job for pos1, Viper is about occupying and denying areas, job for pos1. That matchup is so fundamentally wrong.

One thing game designers and game managers (Dungeon Master, Game Master, whatever you call it) can often stand to remember is that having the chance to let your players rip enemies that were once a threat to them a new one is a great time for all involved. Be it cultists, security robots, enemy soldiers or even the exact same boss that caused them trouble a few secessions back (and hasn't gotten any stronger in the interim) players will truly feel like they've made progress when they realize now THEY are the 800 lb guerilla in the china shop. Also, this is why MMO's that have areas 'automatically adjust to your level' lose so much of their feeling of progress.

They couldn't be more leashed

The best way to increase difficulty in that game was to enable the max damage mod and the max damage taken mod This way all hits you did were lethal as they were supposed to be But you also died yourself in a couple hits

You missed the point then, he literally said that no one would call the automation in Satisfactory OP because it's what the game is about. Like you just didn't listen.

@@hedgehog3180 I don't think you listened to literally the second half of that sentence "We don't consider these things to be overpowered [dramatic pause] even though they totally are." Do you just tune out every time he takes a breath? My point was that it literally CANNOT be overpowered since it is the baseline of power in the game.

Funny thing about satisfactory is that manual crafting is actually better than automation in the short term and in the early game, as long as you're constantly consuming resources, automation gets better when you get to use it to cover downtime by producing a surplus (and if it's fully self-sufficient (which you can do just before phase 2), automation has an unbounded return on investment because you can just AFK, whereas manual crafting has an opportunity cost of not exploring/crafting other things/building factory), but if you don't want to rely on downtime then manual crafting is quite necessary the entire game. Also I discovered that if you're connected to a game as guest in satisfactory, that if you increase your simulation speed (via a speedhack) that crafting and mining speed scales with it and the server just accepts that >:) so in this context manual crafting is OP and the only thing that stops this exploding into winning the game very fast is that some things must be built in an assembler.

I also feel like in the sections where he talks about Multiplayer titles a lot of the comments seemed to be made in isolation on paper when these have greater implications when viewed as a whole where the problems stem from.

Agreed. Satisfactory's automation is *more* powerful than manual crafting by design, as a core pillar of the game, but it is not *too* powerful. They want you to automate; you are supposed to automate. Making it balanced with or less powerful than manual crafting makes no sense.

It isn't necessary to be fun just to provide an experience it can be one of frustration, sadness, revolt or other things depending on the narrative.

I don’t find it fun to play cuphead but it’s the only game I can play

Games are art. Art can also mean intentionally evoking frustration, anger, fright, boredom, trpidation, etc. See for example: Pathologic (2 is great).

@@joaopedrocruz6432 i think we could replace "fun" with "enjoyable". Obviously fun is enjoyable, but people also love horror, intricate stories, strategy optimization, and even overcoming skill barriers.

@@jasonreed7522 all those things are themselves fun (merely pushing the fun a layer beyond the design into a meta interaction by anticipation or strategising or investment)

Meld wasn't properly implemented, IMO. The first canister was always close to your squad and risk was minimal. Furthermore, you don't need a lot of meld (if any) to field a strong squad, so it is ineffective as a way to stop players from camping. I agree that the turn limits for XCOM 2 feel punishing but I feel that it's mostly due to veterancy: EW taught us to take our time because failing a mission was extremely punishing and retreating was hard. In XCOM 2 if things go south in timed missions you can just evac with no repercussions, there's no panic meter or any other consequences for failure.

That sounds kind of like WoW's offline experience bonus or whatever they're calling it. It started as a penalty for playing too long (to encourage people to touch some grass once in a while), but they changed the wording of it to being a bonus for the first time you play after you've not played for a while. Mechanically the same thing, but completely different responses from the players.

@@SrPomar Meld can be really important early to mid game with MECs and can be huge in the late game with gene mods, especially if you're struggling. It gives you a chance to recover fast by being risky and that's pretty cool, plus it gets drip-fed to you via enemies that drop it so you still get to use it.

Before the AOE meta was the meme strike mirage meta. And before that was the Ember/Banshee 4 afk meta. And all that’s ignoring that you can still spam khora’s whip for stupid damage at a ridiculous range. While I love warframe’s narrative and stylistic choices, weapon balance has never really existed after the Plains update.

Remember that even before the plains, Warframe had overpowered Mag where everyone would huddle in a small corner and spam abilities to nuke everything and pull all the drops to that one location. Over 6 years ago, DE tried nearly five different ways to kill the Draco farm, and eventually had to just delete the node from the starchart. By the very nature of warframe having powerful weapons/abilities and a lot of grind, players will automatically seek to maximize the efficiency of their grind. It's the old saying about optimizing the fun out of a game. I'd argue that Warrfame is in a much better place now than it was in the early days, mostly due to the volume of content. There are dozens of smaller things you can grind for that don't require maximizing for room nukes, and plenty of options for farming in a more relaxed setting. Now, instead of farming a single map for weeks, you can rotate between Eidolons, Index credit farming, random relic opening missions, open world bounties, and Railjack missions. And that's just a small fraction of the pretty good variety of missions. There are nearly a dozen good ways to farm credits and endo, and there are tons of weapons to burn for mastery fodder. If you really want a challenge where stuff doesn't die quickly, go run Steel Path, where the enemies are all level 100+. I think the current state of variety is a lot better than it was before, where the "best" option was to pick the most overpowered way to farm one single map. (If anyone is going to argue that every single one of those mission types are bad, Warframe probably isn't the game for you. Take a break and go play something else.) Just remember that when DE implemented self damage with explosive weapons, basically no one used them. And any weapon with absolutely horrible ammo economy doesn't see any use. It turns out that killing yourself with a single misclick and not being able to use your main weapon are pretty terrible feeling experiences when you always have the option to use a powerful sword with a surprisingly large range. Weapons in Warframe are generally powerful, so there's not much room for weapons to go from useless to overpowered. Players have always complained about overpowered things in Warframe, so nerfing this week's most powerful loadout into the ground doesn't accomplish much. Honestly, if you're doing missions on regular tilesets, the solution to not having anything to kill is to get better at your parkour game. Learn the tilesets and figure out the fastest way to move around. If you're really desperate, start using speed volt or portal nova and blow past everyone else so you're the first person to run into enemies. The parkour system is really what makes Warframe special. If you want best-in-class gunplay, try Doom or Destiny. If you can't find enemies, usually the problem is not being fast enough to find the enemies.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Destiny 2 at all since that game is the prime example of Overpowered stuff being nerfed, sometimes with reason but with unintentional effects

Yup, EVERY hero has something absolutely insane about them and something they are quite terrible at, which creates countless interactions and makes it all feel balanced Another example is Faceless Void, his Chronosphere is arguably the most poweful ability in Dota as it creates a huge sphere which stuns everyone for a very long time and once you are in it you absolutely cannot get out on your own. But it also affects your teammates as well, meaning ONLY Void can act in his Chronosphere, and a bad Chronosphere can lead to his whole team dying cuz he accidentally caught them in it It also has a huge cooldown and the rest of Void's kit of spells don't offer much damage or utility since his ult is so stronf. Meaning he needs items to even make his ult poweful, since without items for attack damage/speed he won't kill anyone in Crono on his own without teammates Dota's design is truly ingenious and that's not even the tip of the iceberg since it's not just heroes but there are hundreds of items and other mechanics It's sad that people practically don't talk about it, I am glad this it was mentioned in this video

I remember one of the coolest mechanics I used to enjoy is Slark's OP ability to heal quickly when he is hidden from sight... but if someone was playing bloodseeker his passive instantly cancels out Slark's healing because oyu can see him on the map... I thought that was a perfect example of and OP ability cancelled out by another ability... Or at least it used to be, I haven't played the game in years so they might have changed it... but I always thought it was a cool counter... Or one of my favorite hero designs of all time... Night Stalker... who's only OP during the night....

the main thing thats hurting crawl is that the multiplayer is local only (unless they changed that at a later point) - in PC gaming you get couch coop/pvp only extremly rarely... so its effectively a single player game on PC (or at least launched as one)

I'm pretty sure there are different versions of the game so that might have been the version you had but the one I have has the spy able to kill the 10 (strongest unit in the game) but only if the spy is the attacker, and bombs can be destroyed by the 3. The version I played also has the "spotter" which is only one level above the spy, and instead of attacking, the spotter can take a guess as to what the other piece is, and if they get it right that piece dies, but since it's so weak, if they get it wrong their spotter is dead and that's a big loss because of how obviously powerful it is.

@@hi.its.marcie That is DEFINITELY a different version than what I had played but at the same time seems pretty interesting. The version I played was a computer game version on one of the earlier MacOS systems (My other computer was Windows 3.11 and Geoworks for reference to time period) so the guessing mechanic might have been a bit tricky to program back then. I've always wanted to relearn the game since but never had an opportunity for it

In the standard version of the game the spy is the only thing that can kill the 10 other than another 10 but it loses to everything else, and the bomb kills everything except the sapper which is otherwise a fairly low level unit, there isn't any spotter unit that's definitely a special thing.

@@hedgehog3180 You guys are definitely making me want to play again... (which isn't a bad thing)

There is also a scout which can move in a straight line any amount of steps but it loses to any unit meaning its more of an info gatherer The catch is that it CAN defeat the spy and the flag Meaning you can use it to bait your opponents spy in a position where an unexpected scout can capture it from across the board

Also, OP is when something has same cost but more power, the rocket launchers are balanced as the requier (?) Skills, Time and learning, so they arent OP because they are rare and exclusive

@@JJSSBU yes if accesability is equal but not poer it's op

Rimworld is not at all meant to be balanced. It's focused on making sure that you feel like your enemies always have the potential to have the upper hand. This makes it feel way more triumphant and meaningful when you beat an event, and you're more willing to overlook the costs of the victory. The mistake a lot of players make is becoming overly loss averse to the point where they practically stop playing the game because they're constantly reloading quicksaves because of bad rolls. Mods can help with this by allowing you to make characters overpowered, but imo once you start doing that you're no longer playing to the strengths of the game and rimworld becomes boring very quickly.

​@@caracalfloppa4997 I use mods to make the enemies overpowered lmao.

To be fair, in the title 'bad' is in quotations. So, as intended?

It's not a misleading title, it's literally the point that this is not actually unbalanced, why do so many people in this comments section have no English comprehension.

@@hedgehog3180 I think the video author has no reading comprehension. Over Powered, there's 2 important words there. He only looked at one of them, the "powered" part. Over means that it is too much, in context of video games that means it is objectively the best option every time: which none of his examples of "good" overpowerderedness are. Farming damage for limit breaks, as an example, is usually a really bad plan.

Honestly, weapons in TF2 I think don't at all _need_ to be used an equal amount. It's totally fine if some weirder weapon is more niche but used by those who like it, as long as _class_ balance and niches are preserved. Buuuut if one of those overused weapons is just like a stronger version of another, that's just boring. And if one of those overshadowed weapons is the _default_ ones, that's a big problem cause now the class is "defined by a weapon not everyone can use when playing it"

​@@vyor8837 Overpowered is a compound word, so technically one word. What he is talking about is what people commonly refer to as Overpowered, not whether it actually is Overpowered or not. And he is saying why its not a bad thing if it is Overpowered and how that contributes to the game being fun. His primary point is how over balancing a game leads to the game just feeling stale and boring with no soul.

Isn't that regular dodgeball? Any out of bounds ball goes to the person standing past the far end.

It's a whole different story when you play with randos. It depends who are in the lobby. Some are very clueless while some are scarily tactical.

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Natural Selection 2 is fantastic! Really should play that again sometime

NS2 is great but I was disappointed the base building in it was less interesting than in Tremulous where bases could be built pretty much anywhere and moving away from the starting location was a common and usually good tactic leading to lots of interesting situations of figuring out where the enemy is trying to build.

I like NS2. But I feel like it really shows its age. Last time I played was probably about 2 years ago and even then I barely managed to find a well-populated server. Likewise, I really like the idea of a commander coordinating and telling everyone else what to do, but when I played no one really wanted to be the commander. Nevertheless, I'd love to see an NS3, though I still wouldn't buy it until it goes on sale for 15 EUR or less.

"When people talk about a strategy or weapon or character being "overpowered," they are complaining specifically in the context of "this OPTION, out of many other possible options of similar accessibility, is far and away the best option, to the point of rendering all other options null and irrelevant."" That may be what they think they are complaining about, however in practice what people end up complaining about 99% of the time is those powerful balance options that add to the flavor of the game and not take away from it.

Plus, Edge cases.

Isn't that just moving the problem to the meta layer, though? If my team drafts more scissors it'll probably win against a paper comp but lose against rocks, at that point the match itself is just a formality unless it's a mirror match.

@@SrPomar That depends on how many options there are, how mutually exclusive they are, and how strong the advantages/disadvantages are. Many games do end up with something similar, with some characters being good against some, but weaker against others. If you have a team you could go full paper, or go with an even distribution, or anything in between, with advantages and disadvantages to those compositions.

Generally in PvP, you won't know what you're up against until you go in, so it would be a risk no matter which way you go. And in terms of PvE, it would provide more balance as certain bosses would be more or less beneficial depending on what you picked. For example, ranged characters in most games are often at a flat out advantage. But you can create a boss where being in melee is mostly required, and ranged classes do reduced damage the closer they are to the target. That sort of thing. So in theory, no one option would ever reign supreme

Planetside 2 has this, in the sense that there exist specific counters to each thing but they are often limited to just that meanwhile there are general purpose loadouts that do a lot of things great but are worse against any particular thing.

I've only heard of those games being referred to as "bullet heaven," since they are the opposite of bullet hells.

Are you kidding? All I ever see is “realism is not fun.” People constantly complain about realism existing. At best, for the most part, you can hope that they won’t notice or complain about the realism that’s there.

That's exactly why such games are best played with friends. Or just any co-op games in general.

This pretty much exactly... Also Dan wasn't a joke character in Street Fighter 4 either, he was solid mid tier (but only because the actual low-tiers were *extremely bad*)

As DOTA 2 is a homework game, is that one of many factors as to why it has a different Esports model that does not appeal to some professional Esports players that have yet to grow or choose their game of Choice?

​@@jirehtheprovider I'm uncertain. One could easily look at a game like CSS which requires a lot of physical skill, but you can't avoid learning maps, strategies, how to respond to specific weapons and setups. I imagine this is comparable to games like DOTA, but such information is definitely absorbed in different ways.

I was going to talk about this but had to cut it for time, you're absolutely right - items are the big correcting factor that keeps the really powerful abilities of heroes you may not have countered taking over the game, silver edge and BKB being the really obvious ones!

Exactly! The power gap (power delta, power differential, etc.) being small is important, but it needn't be nonexistent, just sufficiently small. Now, of course that's a lil subjective, but generally it's also not too hard to find a point where most people are satisfied.

@@benjoffe948 It's frankly also impossible to quantify power at all, like there's no unit of "game power" or whatever, and statistical methods also don't work and often just leads to missing the bigger picture. It's obvious when something is too powerful because it'll end up dominating the game but once things are roughly equal it becomes basically impossible to tell what is more powerful because it's so dependent on player skill and specific contexts. People of course are idiots and will complain if their favourite thing isn't completely OP but that's why devs really should not listen to the playerbase when it comes to things like this because often circlejerks can develop that become so loud that anyone who doesn't buy into it is excluded.

Overwatch too focused on balance? You okay there bud?

@@AutumnReel4444 Overwatch was at its best on release, when most characters were broken in their own way and nobody gave a shit about balancing towards ESports and professional play. That's not nostalgia glasses, that's my genuine opinion. Then Blizzard slowly just nerfed everyone and made the characters boring. Not to mention they added tons of shields and new characters that turned the game into a first-person MOBA rather than a shooter, but that's a whole other thing.

@@auxiliaryboxes So you'd prefer they... nerf shields?

@@bld9826 I wouldn't prefer anything; lost interest a long time ago and it's been many years since I cared to play. Just sharing my observations.

And that's why Repentance made Isaac boring, they nerfed all the overpowered items while barely improving the bad ones, making much harder to become a powerhouse. Before Repentance once every 10 runs you can get pretty strong if you know what to do, but after it you will get an overpowered run once every 50 runs, making the game boring.

In roguelikes overpowered options also serve the important purpose of letting someone learn what the game is like. Given the nature of the genre you're obviously going to die a lot and you really won't learn much about the game if you never get very far because you don't get to encounter later mechanics or enemies and if you just keep dying it's hard to figure out what you should do to avoid that. Having an overpowered option allows a player who doesn't know a lot about the game to get much further than they normally would and therefore learn much more about the game and figure out how to deal with those elements and learn what they should prepare for in the future. In FTL for example the Shrapnel gun is extremely OP, by far the most powerful weapon in the game only maybe competing with the Burst Laser mk2 and because of that it allows a player to really easily get super far and maybe even beat the first stage of the boss, but then they reach the second stage which will kill them if they don't understand the mechanics of the game. However now they have knowledge of what to prepare for in the boss, what kinda dangers they'll encounter along the way and what to look for in a weapon, that knowledge is what's needed to actually build skill at a game as tactical as this one. There's a good chance you might get your first victory with that weapon however now after you've won with that you'll be ready to take on the game in more challenging ways, roguelikes aren't played against anyone after all and the appeal of them is beating impossible odds so making the game more challenging for yourself now that you know you can beat it would be interesting.