150 - Maritime Patrol

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Жыл бұрын

First the earth cooled, then the seas formed, and later humans appeared, and what did they do? Pretty much went straight to war with each other: first on land, then by sea, later below and eventually above the seas. Today, control of the seas remains vital whether in peacetime or during times of war, and unique aircraft, weapons, methods, and airmen are necessary to conduct this vital role.
On this episode, retired U.S. Navy Captain Sean “Leeds” Liedman joins us for an exhaustive discussion on the history, hardware, and humans involved in maritime patrol with special focus on the P-3 Orion and P-8 Poseidon. Due to the interview length, no announcements or generic listener questions are featured this week.
Episode artwork by Janek Krause. Bumper music by Jaime Lopez / announcements by Clint Bell.

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@Pricklyhedgehog72 Жыл бұрын

This was a really champion interview, Leeds is a natural speaker and his knowledge appealed to the history major in me no end. Plus, as I've been a MN myself for a decade and a half, I can confirm he represented "MN nice" almost to the letter of state statute. If I recall accurately, a Royal New Zealand Airforce P3 detected what was believed to be a US sub during a training exercise somewhere off the coast of Australia, which was neither confirmed nor denied, and I think rather incredulously surprised whoever was discovered. The new P8s will be much more capable.

@toddrader1698 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations to “Leeds” for making the big time on Fighter Pilot podcast! We served together as instructors at VP-30 which is the Maritime Patrol training squadron. I can attest that he is a great guy, superb tactician & fantastic Naval Officer. BZ!!!

@skycop56 Жыл бұрын

As a very old radioman in P2V Neptunes I feel like a dinosaur. I served in VP6 out of Barbers Point and had over 2000 hrs. It was an exciting time for a young kid. I went on to get my pilots license and became a controller with the FAA and still fly my own plane, a Vans RV6. Thanks for the update on the mission. Keep up the great work. Go Navy!

@timgeist1450 Жыл бұрын

I also thought I wanted to be an A-6 BN, but they took away the option by the time I got through VT-10. I ended up in the EP-3E (VQ-1 & 2) and had a fulfilling career. Great podcast Jell-O!

@jameswhite9025 9 ай бұрын

Great episode! I was a P3 Flight Engineer from 83 to 2003, flying OnSta at 200 feet and tracking Russian Subs during the Cold War was a thrill, enjoyed every minute of it!

@FighterPilotPodcast 9 ай бұрын

🇺🇸💪

@bodazaphfa Жыл бұрын

Great episode! Very informative, especially for a fighter / attack guy like myself. RIP Capt. Mark “Shaker” Adamshick. My best C.O. ever, and a great R.I.O.. Edit: we always loved the end of fiscal year New Brunswick lobster runs. We knew it was coming up when it was the end of September and we’re told to put the cargo pod on the Tomcat centerline. Great times.

@FlyingDutchmanPodcast Жыл бұрын

Maritime patrol is often overlooked I’m glad for this episode I will miss the P-3 but the P-8 is a game changer just in time as the Communist Chines blue water expansion needs to be met with extensive options not from just us but our Allie’s.

@DarthEvilicus Жыл бұрын

A forgotten community in naval aviation. It may not be fast and sexy but it’s a vital role in ensuring the safety of sea lines of communication

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

Not forgotten on our show!

@PATRIOT_Acronym69420 Жыл бұрын

Love flying and serving with my fellow Minnesotan, Leeds. Served with him twice and he was a true pro and Naval officer.

@USNRaptor Жыл бұрын

Read The Thousand Mile War by Brian Garfield. It's about WW2 in Alaska and the Aleutians.

@ArveEriksson Жыл бұрын

Leeds is a legit good storyteller. More!!1

@CristianValenzuela2155 Жыл бұрын

He sounds like born to this

@ceopersonal4040 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the conversation about what you get selected to fly. I'm giving it my all to become a pilot in the navy, and for a long time up till I listened to this, I would ask myself "what If I don't get the airframe I want? What if they put me in rotary?" But your conversation cleared that up, if I don't get to fly what I want, I might be bummed out for a bit, but I still think I'll have an experience like no other.

@algeils9789 Жыл бұрын

Your guests are always well versed and very impressive

@viksaini Жыл бұрын

A most excellent interview. Thank you!

@tarjas Жыл бұрын

Great show Jello and Leeds. Can attest to how in demand MPRA assets are in the big AOR. Tiger Tiger! -Scuba

@briancarpenter6658 Жыл бұрын

GPS buoys, soft wings, smooth quiet tride, what the heck! I suppose that next you'll tell us that there's no TACNAV, plotstab or High Speed Printer. Heresy Leeds! Seriously though, very well done gents. Final question - On the P-8, can you aim a bomb using the nut on the windshield wiper technique from the P-3, or does the HUD get in the way. Hah!

@henrypuyi5485 Жыл бұрын

+1 on being an NFO. -2 for being a boat schooler. Loved the VP community as it’s run by NFOs. We all know Barbers Point was the place to be. I was at the TSC Sig during that time. Those were heady days.

@bakerhitch5856 Жыл бұрын

The P-8 Poseidon is the coolest 737.

@batickell Жыл бұрын

Loved this one! Would love to see a dedicated episode on Cold War P-3 ops!

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

So many topics, so little time... 😅

@pkelly3463 Жыл бұрын

Dang ..60 yrs of service for the P-3. Growing up near KNUQ, they were [seemingly] in the pattern 24/7. Lived very close to the golf course just south of the field. Great platform. Held or still holds speed record for multi engine. Taxpayers got their money's worth. VP-31 👍 FLY NAVY!!!

@paulloveless9180 Жыл бұрын

Awesome episode Jello! Interesting to hear about the "battle chat". I wonder if they are like: -I jus 👀 a helicopter lolz ::Deploying lolerskates:: -Copy your helicopter. roflcopter!

@deantait8326 Жыл бұрын

Well I guess patrol in the air (over the oceans) patrol on and under the water, seems pretty important and impactful !!!

@Topgunphoto Жыл бұрын

Growing up off KPSM, Pease I grew up watching P-3's out of NAS Brunswick working that pattern at Portsmouth as a kid and was lucky enough to get a ramp visit before BRAC shut them down. Even though Brunswick no longer has military there, the town kept all their gate guards which is awesome. I believe the EP-3's are still flying out of NAS Whidbey for a few more years? I'm not sure if the EP has the same roll as the standard P-3 though.

@johnb7490 Жыл бұрын

Great Great interview..

@markl9428 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Story CAP'n

@MultiCconway Жыл бұрын

JELLO . . . I am really wanting someone in the Naval Aviation Community to speak about Amphibious Aircraft in the modern context (modern MPA vs WWII amphibious A/C). 'Leeds' alluded to unique capability with long legs and persistence and you talked about the PBYs, but amphibious capability OUTSIDE helo range is the issue in all theaters, but more particularly in the Western Archipelagic Pacific AOR. Particularly w/r/t downed aviators in the future. This should be a show on its own. TORCH OUT!

@robertworley9620 10 ай бұрын

FYI- The Navy was flying P-5M seaplane as part of MaketTime in Vietnam in the '60s. 50 cals. in the nose.

@leeadams5941 Жыл бұрын

You guys need to do one on the Marine C130 community, with the right guy telling it, it would interesting and funny as hell

@crazypetec-130fe7 Жыл бұрын

I spent 20 years on USAF C-130s. There's a million great stories about Herkypigs.

@mikebridges20 Жыл бұрын

Loved this podcast, different than the fast movers, but at least as compelling!! I haven't gone back through your entire library, but I'd love a segment on the Coast Guard; also on the recon/intelligence disciplines for the US.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

To your first point: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7N_ja933ripeXU.html

@mikebridges20 Жыл бұрын

@@FighterPilotPodcast Thanks!!

@robertshore266 Жыл бұрын

I was in VP-64 79 -82. We were flying P-3A 150xxx 151xxx 152xxx tail numbers. The big difference between fleet and reserve crews is time they work together. Reserve crews spend years together. On one deployment the Fleet P-3C update 2 count not keep a sub. The reserve P-3A (super A) always was on top. The fleet was not. I think because the reserve crews worked together so long together the team work was more on point. Fleet crews are 4 years at most. That's my observation. .

@robertworley9620 10 ай бұрын

I agree. I was in VP-67. On one ACDUTRA out of Kadena, my Ord was about 59 years old. He had been a gunner on a TBM in WW2.

@tacticaltoolbox7046 Жыл бұрын

My input: definitely interview tanker pilots/crew. Wanna know what's up with those guys.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

You may want to see this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kN17nrarq93GgIE.html

@mariusfrost640 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jello, I have an idea for a video and/or podcast: pilots being funny etc. The world seems to be falling apart, and a lot of people are really stressed, maybe doing something like this could help someone get through their day. You could share funny stories or footage of pilots (or anyone really) being silly, playing pranks, having blooper moments etc. A little relief goes a long way.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

That would be an entirely new direction for the show, but worth considering…

@timgeist1450 Жыл бұрын

Funny anecdote related to the Navy picking the 737 over Orion 21. The latter was being briefed to my old EP-3E squadron VQ-1. It was a "done deal." My friend asked the Wing Commodore, "Why not consider a commercial jet like the 737?" The Commodore told "Moose" to essentially shut up. Moose wrote some point papers with some stats from Boeing. He kept getting told he didn't know what he was talking about. As the story goes, TACAIR flags in D.C. asked the Maritime Patrol bubbas the same question: "Why not a 737?" I guess you have to listen when it's not a silly VQ O-4 asking the question.

@sharoncassell9358 Жыл бұрын

The USAF uses C141 similar to 737 and still standing.

@caseyholland7860 Жыл бұрын

Leeds brings some serious knowledge

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

One talented dude fo' sho'!

@rdean4charternet Жыл бұрын

OY! Mick Jagger, philosopher. Niner, niner over....

@shveylien7401 Жыл бұрын

2/3 of the planet is water, but 100% is under atmosphere.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

And surrounded by space...

@AllDay3090 11 ай бұрын

*2/3 OF THE EARTH'S SURFACE MAY BE WATER, BUT 3/3 OF THE EARTH'S SURFACE IS COVERED BY AIR. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO FROM SEA TO LAND OR LAND TO SEA, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING FROM AIR TO LAND AND SEA BOTH.*

@edfleming9600 Жыл бұрын

Ha! I wrote a paper about exactly this in college. It was the history of aviation.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

😎

@mariusfrost640 Жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I apologize if this question has been asked already. When a pilot flies a different plane than their native airframe (like Jello flying the F-16), do they have to learn all the systems and memorize the emergency procedures for that plane too? It seems like that's a huge task, especially when you actually need to know it well.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

Yes x2: you do have to learn all that and it IS a lot of work.

@bogey361 Жыл бұрын

Jello: Good job Leeds, lets be respectful of fate or whatever you wanna call it. Top Gun Maverick is sure to rile up some people to go fly some hornets. Spoken like a true naval aviator.

@michaelmulligan0 Жыл бұрын

I assume the P8 can’t open doors inflight unlike the P3

@caseyholland7860 Жыл бұрын

We need an episode about the Hainan island incident

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

Maybe...

@michaelmulligan0 Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know there was a commodore in USN

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

It is a title, not a rank.

@shamusosullivan5650 Жыл бұрын

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

...ok, I'll bite: 2

@juhyokang2571 Жыл бұрын

Ok in many many any in ok

@BKetch Жыл бұрын

You have to pay for food on a Carrier? That's kind of shitty. You are forced to be here, oh yea and pay us for your food. I hope you were getting overseas or hazards duty pay.

@FighterPilotPodcast Жыл бұрын

I believe it's because the Navy pays us for food in the first place.