It's a great video, done with the utmost class and respect towards the victims -- as all of your work is. Thank you for everything you do!

I think you remade this video for views. You liked at comment on your last video which commended you for not feeling it necessary to mention who this tragedy impacted. “Basketball Tragedy” What changed??? That last comment got thousands of likes because people felt that your motivation for making the video was for educational purposes and not done just for clicks. Funny how millions of views can change things.... Disappointed!

I doubt that. TheFlightChannel just makes videos for entertainment and when there are no new tragedies to report.

Hey @Theflightchannel can u make an update VIDEO of PK8303 A320

What happened to the audio of the ATC saying their altitude was too low soon before impact?

i dont think it was implied that anyone was in a hurry

@@joenyc i think what he was trying to say is with that bad weather conditions, they should've just chosen to drive. so the hurry part is referring to how its only a 30 min flight in bad conditions, when u could take the safer option which is driving, even though it takes 2 hours. u could just wake up earlier in the morning and drive. that's what i would've done.

@@joenyc A very common situation in charter flights with rich passengers is that they push the pilot to continue so they can make their schedule, against the pilot's better judgement. It's called "get there itis." Several times in my flying career I have chosen to do a 180 out of a bad situation, circle around for an hour to re-assess it, and sometimes choose an alternate field and land in better conditions. The LA police helicopters were not in a hurry that day.

I thought this was a sailing adage. Interesting that it is said in aviation too!

LIKE SLEEPY JOE BIDEN RUSHING THRU TO BE PRESIDENT ELECT BEFORE HIS VOTER FRAUD IS DETECTED.🤣🤣🤣

I only felt bad for the pilot lmao

Maybe Mr Bryant shouldn’t have been a pushy prick who fired multiple pilots over nonsense and forced his favorite to fly under severely compromised conditions.

A couple of parents died as well, and a coach. Very tragic.

Some of the responses to my comment are bizarre. Why are people so disgusting? If a tragic thing were to happen like this to your family, would you want someone to stay stupid shit like that? Also, in no way was I implying that anyone was less significant than the other.

@@chrisafp071 I disagree, that is a nasty thing to say.

Thank you for this explanation/example.

@@haydenhodges34 you're very welcome 😁

@@ChRiStY4t5 Do you think Kobe Bryant and his daughter were ever buried

@@nealsmall9316 yes. But they aren't buried in a marked grave bc of the bombardment of fans that have tried to gather at their graves. Whether they are actually buried or not I don't think is the question. Just where. It makes sense not to mark the graves to give the family time to grieve and find some peace.

I don't get it

Dan Nelson define experienced? Having a lot of VFR hours in good weather does not make one experienced.

He was literally Kobe’s personal pilot for like 20 years. Dont think he was trying to impress him

@Nisi Castro wow, are you blaming the pilot here? Police heli's were grounded. This was just a rush flight.

Get all the facts you guys. It wasn't the pilot he asked for them to reconsider flying that day before they took off

@@thefutbolwhale7011. Zobayan started flying with island express 10 years ago. Kurt deets was Kobe’s pilot from 2014-2016. Zobayan began flying kobe thereafter. Get your facts straight noob

this video sucked.....way to long....you have no life

@@chadhaire1711 Shut up troll

@@chadhaire1711 shut up chad

@@chadhaire1711 It;s because its way to advanced for your liking, sorry. You can go back to your makeup tutorials or Minecraft Lets Plays.

@@termsconditionss Its too fucking long..some of us have life....

why would you be saddened by a rapist's death, r e t a r d ?

Exactly i don't care if people don't like my comment. The fact is Coby is the one who put everyone's lives in danger. You don't fire good pilots because it doesn't suit you're liking...........

I agree. Typical celebrity bullshit.

Exactly, that’s what many people don’t understand about corporate aviation. You don’t depart because the ceilings are too low for a safe flight? Turns out your boss missed his meeting and you’re fired now. It would be great if we made the rich CEO’s and celebrities like this take an aeronautical decision making class so they can know the consequences of get-there-itis.

@Guy Incognito yup, and then if we do have a weather related emergency, I’m the one that gets in trouble with the FAA for it. So either I lose my corporate flying job, or risk killing myself and others and getting violated by the FAA for it. Really a great outcomes there😀. I’d rather work in fast food than be a pilot for some asshole celebrity.

Supposedly he was a Trump supporter

I did this and now I'm paraplegic

hi

@@LiquidSpartan117 u

@@LiquidSpartan117 Hahaha

I recommend that you don't close your eyes whilst riding a bike!

I appreciate your comment, but a black box wouldn't have prevented this accident, if that's what you're suggesting. And if spatial disorientation is severe enough, a pilot may be unresponsive to external data, such as a terrain warning. This accident was caused by pilot error, and the core issue here is pilot competency.

@@cardinalRG Do you think Kobe Bryant and his daughter were both Buried in a grave ?

@@nealsmall9316 --I've no opinion about that, sorry. I've followed only the aeronautical details of this accident and will be happy to discuss any topic within that range.

More instruments is great, but apparently this pilot failed to use the most basic flight orientation instruments.... Anyone who's seriously played a flight simulator game would glue their eyes to those instruments in such conditions.. You're performing a completely blind assent and you didn't check your angle of attack/artificial horizon instrument... So criminally avoidable..

not until some high public figure like Kobe dies

Can you explain how becoming disoriented happens? I just can't imagine I'm sitting in my seat and can get so disoriented that I can't tell up from down.

@@lonib213 Certainly! Imagine that you can not see anything out the windows. Everything is white; that is what happens when you are flying in a cloud. There is nothing to look at to orient yourself. Then when you are flying and the pilot pulls back on the wheel, you will feel the G force pulling you down into your seat so you will think that you are going up ..... but if the pilot also turns the wheel one way or the other you will start to go down not up. The more the pilot pulls up the tighter the turn and the faster you go down in an ever tightening spiral. It is called a death spiral. A trained pilot will give a little opposite rudder to keep the nose actually going up to counter the downward movement. You can't tell any of this is happening from your own senses. Usually you figure this out by looking out the window, but if you can't see......

Ride a bicycle and close your eyes for an extended period of time. You will think you're pedaling straight but you'll probably be going In some random direction and feel very disoriented and off balance

@@808melz yes, but I would feel if I was going down a hill or up a hill. Because of the slanting,

@@lonib213 Do you think the helicopter crash happened to fast for Kobe to know?

Amen! To that

That pilot should’ve put his foot down and told Kobe that he wasn’t going to take Kobe’s life into his hands. What a tragedy.

@@fabsoltero578 But it was Kobe!!! Who would dare say no to Kobe!!! C'mon...it was Kobe.

@@haywoodyoudome it doesn’t matter who it it! Nobody is an exemption from dying. We all have to see our maker sooner or later. Some people go sooner. My daughter passed away at 19. Do you think when I had her that she will die before me?

@@fabsoltero578 Sorry to hear of your loss. I was being sarcastic and agree with you completely. Unfortunately fame and fortune make people feel invincible and far too many are intimidated into taking risks as a result.

It only seems avoidable in retrospect!

@downboogieb: We ALL have a “shelf life” an “expiration date “. All those on that helicopter 🚁 had an appointment TO KEEP...and each were ON TIME. Please, I am not trying to be insensitive here, but that is a REALITY. No matter how old, how rich/poor or how well known anyone is...we ALL have a DEATH APPOINTMENT CARD issued the day of our birth and the appointment will be KEPT and we will be ON TIME. What I pray is that they ALL had accepted JESUS. We may THINK we do NOT need HIM, but we can not afford to leave here without HIM. Death IS NOT THE END but the beginning of ETERNITY. If we have accepted JESUS, then we are safe in heaven with HIM and experiencing true rest and peace, but, on the other hand if we did NOT, there is NO REST or PEACE in hell. If a soul have been in hell for a BILLION years, it has NOT even started ETERNITY. GOD exist and so does heaven and hell. GOD is NOT in heaven playing games with us and we should take the wonderful message of JESUS more serious than we do. We are only PREPARED if we have invited CHRIST into our lives then WHEN death comes, we have NOTHING TO FEAR. We can say to death, like Clint Eastwood in one of his movies, “GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY”. Those 9 souls are in ETERNITY now, heaven or hell - I do NOT KNOW, but THIS MOMENT is your opportunity to run 🏃 to JESUS and ask HIM into your heart before it is too late. I have (1973) and I am looking forward to the day when I will see my sweet LORD face to face. Even so, come QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. Normal is NOT coming back but JESUS is.....READY? Maranatha 8/14/2022.

@@samreilly1484 Sam, All had an appointment with death which they kept and were on time for. There is a heaven to GAIN and a hell to SHUN. Everyday, while we are on earth, we link the chains to where we will be spending ETERNITY.......HEAVEN or HELL. It is OUR CHOICE where we will go. OUR CHOICE!

Which girl is that?

@@Lindastyle Alexis Altobelli

It's so terrible. That girl lost Her whole family. She only has her brother!

But...but...it's Kobe...it's Kobe

@@scottnoble7306 yeah, and coach A.

Yes, indeed.

What happened?

@@my83roadster4me Corona happened

Totally

Who knew it would continue into 2021!

Absolutely. I was think the same thing. When IT IS TIME TO DIE- IT IS TIME and it is an appointment WE ALL WILL KEEP. Their TIME was UP!!!

@@JESUSISLORDforever888 you people are sick

RIP EVERYONE WHO WAS ON BOARD. I JUST CANT GET OVER THIS. VANESSA AND THE OTHER FAMILIES IM PRAYING FOR YALL. YOUR LIVES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. LIFE IS SOMETHING MONEY CAN'T BUY.

It's very unsettling. I agree with you.

Rookie pilot 🤦‍♂️ all people flying in planes are an instant away from death

@@janetlavender5170 I’ve been a Kobe fan since the beginning... lost my grandmother, girlfriend lost grandfather.. 2020 sucks.. it’s crazy how much time has passed and I still get sad for those involved and their families... especially the kids that didn’t get to grow. Man... you never know when your number is up.. if you believe in God, seek him.. if you don’t, do some research cuz you’ve been lied to.

Tomorrow is not promised, no guarantee of a next breath. Not much in this world you can control but you can control what you do. We have to do better as people and that starts with the person in the mirror. Treat each other better each day and live each moment like your last... ✌️

Common people have a hard time resisting the god-emperor celebrities. Especially those who are paying them.

True. If you can't tell someone to go to hell, you're in no position to negotiate.

Ya think!!!!

It sounds like good pilots who can make the right call were fired by Bryant. Like seriously, firing a pilot for stopping for fuel is ludicrous.

@Nutaarsiassat 67 the key to flight safety is an honest and just reporting culture. When you fire pilots that value those things, disaster lurks

It was never unknown. These are sell outs to the devil. I don't know celebs kids are thrown into this but just to keep it lighter, Kobe most likely signed his kids death wish the moment the devil came to him for more skills & riches. This story has the classic of wanting to play god hence why all proof of predicting this crash... Add into all the coincidental prior and post crash.. At this point it's Satan's tagging without using pain and side buildings.

I'm glad I saw a person saying RIP for everyone on board. I'm tired seeing everyone saying only RIP Kobe. THANK YOU

@Dusty Grady U good??

@Dusty Grady lol

@Dusty Grady RIP THE WHITE PEOPEL

@Dusty Grady They were all white dude, Kobe only looked black because of the fire smh

Well said

Fly simulator baby, probably 2021 or 2020

Yes your right .

..agreed. Very well done...

Great local detail on Hwy 5 and 101...

What about the downing of the flight in the first week of 2020 killing all on board due to trump actions.

@@andrebrown4445 oh shit up as soon as Kobe and Gigi died 2020 sucked already

How else was Lebron to become the face of the NBA if Kobe was alive. So they killed him.

@@24KinfO just shut up

I agree!!💯💯💯

Especially if you do it in a giant tour bus equipped with millions of dollars worth of fun shit to do. No reason for these celebrities to be in the air when they can ride in style and stay alive.

Sitting in traffic for 2 hours vs never making it to the destination. Which would you choose?

@@livelofivibe6892 Ride in style and stay alive until they get run off the road by some dumb ass and end up dying anyway.

@@jaxonmattox9267 a car surrounded by idiots in control of other cars

Or at the very least file an IFR flight plan

Rest In Jeeps?

I think we all know this. It's pretty common for a family to greive a loss... Not sure why you thought you had to explain. Also what is RIJ?

they did rest in pieces.

@adam katt that's not funny. If u want to tell a joke then you can just say your name.

@mister poopies stop... you’re trying to be edgy and funny when really you look stupid

@@tiktiktok5703 I think it’s funny

@mister poopies I’m thinking mommy and daddy didn’t teach you manners

C-C-C-C CORONA VIRUS ITS GETTING SH*IT IS GETTING REAL That come Cardi B btw

I forgot that this happened this past year...

Honestly, like he died and it was a tragedy. Then we got Covid and many started dying, but the death of thousands are being treated as a statistic... I guess as Joe Stalin once said, “The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of many is a statistic”

Kobe was murdered by the CCP

@@blmtrashjimmyisgay5507 100%

sorry for your loss...let's just pray for him..

Respect🙏

That’s beautiful thank you for your personal story about Ara. I do hope Vanessa Bryant isn’t suing Ara’s family as stated in an article I read on line, I do indeed hope that was fake news. Sky high Ara 🦅

Lies and made up bullshit nice try tho

Veganista I'm truly moved by this post and its sad that we all dont know when we are going to leave this Earthly World wouldnt it ne a better Earthly World if we knew when we were going Home to Heaven Amen xxxxxxx we could then look at it as a celebration of Earthly life then the word used of death. But though us Good dont never die that's to final. We good we pass home to Heaven when called home by Father Jesus Amen xxxxxxx that not being able to know when we leave this Earthly World is again work of the wrong un devil. Who doest want us to celebrate Earthly life or passing home he hates all of us Good Human Beings. All of us pure souls the devil he hates because he can't turn us or corrupt us Good ever and he hates this fact plus he hates his ownself. As for his band of fools that support him they are satanic foolish idiots nobody could help. God Rest The Souls Of Every Good Human Being Amen xxxxxxx Home To Heaven Amen xxxxxxx With Our Ever Growing Ever Loveing Heavenly Family Amen xxxxxxx. I'm sorry for your loss my Sister or Brother. This Earthly life can be so cruel for the best of us Human Beings everybody though is Happy at home in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx sad to of left the Earthly World dont get me wrong. But Heaven is amazing I promise you so all the Good passed home to Heaven are all ok and enjoying Heavenly life Amen xxxxxxx Peace and Love to all of us Good Human Beings living on this Earthly World Amen xxxxxxx until all us Good meet again in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx

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Preach 👏👏👏

This is was the first thing that made 2020 a shit show

Ya

crazy

This helicopter isn't even equipped with IFR instruments...It's impossible to fly this in bad weather.. SUS as

Rich people think the are above the law but the laws of physics dont care

And police helis are super equipped and their pilots are trained veterans, but hey, Bryant's favorite "pilot" can't tell the difference between climb and descent and goes blind thru a fog in a mountain area...yet he's flying 8 people

nooo, but some shit training is more important than safety and job security

@@lithium25693 I wouldn’t blame Kobe... Actually, knowing the kind of guy he was, I’m sure if Kobe fully knew the situation, he wouldn’t have chosen to fly that morning and put himself and his daughter and those other families at risk... But who was going to explain the situation to him? Most of the time, for these pilots and chauffeurs, etc their job is to shut up and get the client where they want to go, because time is money... They’re going to try and find a way to get them there, come hell or high water, before they break it to the client that their personal flight is delayed. Sadly, that CAN have deadly consequences.

Yep. A TERRIBLE year. I had a feeling when this happened so early in the year that it was an omen of things to come..

Helicopters metric systems. Are low powered and cant calculate or fly in level 5 autopilot

Don't said 2020 are bad all of this made by us

@@iman6988 i can't see anything "bad" in my comment. The only bad here is your grammar. Lmao

@@iman6988 nah 2020 sucks, 2014 and 2019 was better

not sad at all. not like we lost anyone special

Kobe's pressure on the airline company was a contributing factor, as explained on the video.

Everybody always talking about Kobe and Gianna what about all the other passengers on that plane

@@wiley0714 shut up.

Rich people are not that smart, the police choppers were grounded because of the thick fog.

This might sound bad , but we’re their bodies ever found?

@@i_Made_That yeah in really bad shape, you can look at the autopsy’s on reddit

Kobe told them to nerdneck

Those instruments are not there to be ignored your eyes can only help if they have a reference point and fog has many and no imperfections

@@verticalhairline huh??What exactly did he say??since you were there and heard what kobe said...why don't you enlighten us.....if you have recording that would be really helpful..

What part of “there was no fog until after they took off” do you not understand?!

@@samreilly1484 tf you getting mad for?

@@43110clyde I’m not I’m just telling it like it is

Trust me! If Kobe was gonna fly in “thick enough fog to discourage other people from driving on the freeway, let alone flying in a helicopter” with several other people including his own preteen daughter and another preteen girl who was with both her parents, he might as well have also locked his two younger daughters in a room with a convicted child molester! I’m sorry to sound like such a broken record, but you could see 5 miles ahead when the helicopter took off! But you couldn’t even see an inch ahead when it crashed!

@@samreilly1484 facts

I completely agree with you. He lost his common sense judgement because he was dazzled at having such a major celebrity on board, and it cost 9 people their lives. So unnecessary.

@@annbolyn4910 Tho I'm NOT a pilot I would refuel the Helicopters for the Fire Department and I know that area well.... They our pilots would NOT fly to Malibu from Pacoima under those conditions.

Kobe would of fired his ass if he did that.

You know he falsified his hours logged right?

People always want to try and push the limits ..Sometimes they push back.

All comments is of Kobe...not the other lost lives??? Come on man. All souls belongs to God.

@@michaelclayton2323 because Kobe had a bigger impact on people than the average man. It’s that simple. Do you mourn a strangers death as much as you would mourn a family members? No and that’s ok. It doesn’t make the other deaths any less tragic it’s just people tend to mourn the loss of someone who had an impact on them more than they mourn the loss of those they didn’t know/weren’t familiar with

@@Cocogirl44 Kobe did not had an impact on my life at all. I never met the man. He was not even a family member of these people that had comments as well. When the Titanic went down, all lives matter. I am using humanoty compassion and not putting any man above God.

If LAPD grounds their copters, it's probably wise to follow suit

@@blakeklob8797 couldn’t agree more.

they could have and should have drove,i think

@@blakeklob8797 stolen comment But agreed

That's literally every death ever

I want to make a kardashian joke but it’s uncalled for .........

You'd think at the very least that all of the adults on that flight must have been thinking the same thing.

I know if I'm in a helicopter, I'm getting worried because there's no way in hell I'd willingly get in a helicopter

Im getting out

As a passenger im gonna keep asking “whats our altitude?”

@@revenger32 exactly

Exactly....IG daniellefiftyfifty

yeah but the controller gave clearance for the flight, it's any of them on board to make decision

Lol think about what the difference n LAPD helicopters and this helicopter and what there job is sometimes ya just got 2 think about shit it aint that hard 2 come up with a answer unless ur pretty dumb .

The pilot should have requested permission to land at Bob Hope/HBGP Airport in Burbank and waited until viability improved and then took to the air again.

@@christophercotton9048 shouldah coulda woulda

Thank you for your service, and all 45 on board with you that day - Your Chief Warrant Officer was smart.....

It sounded like pilots in that company would get fired for saying no to clients, but I agree with you and thank you for making this point. That weather is sketchy to me too.

He's smart. There is also a way higher rate of heli crashes in the military than in the civilian world.

@@ez8308 That's because civilian helicopters don't see combat.

@@avikfett1551 there was a few years where it seemed like military helicopters were crashing almost every month, while just transporting and not in combat

You’re right 💯

Not if all agreed to go It was just their time no matter how anyone looks At it or thinks of the lord wanted it to happen a different way he would have tvis is how it was supposed to happen with all of them together unfortunately but that’s life for you That’s Why none should take life or who they love for granted we just never know or how or when we will go but need to be prepared to meet God After death Is the judgement If One dies and is saved that means they go to heaven and live for eternity but if they are lost and choose with their free will to reject Christ they go to hell for eternity

Same thing I said along with the very best friend of Kobey's, they should not have flown that morning, to Foggy period.

Kobe death was planned. Did you not see the cartoon?

Pressures of being Kobe favorite pilot. Can't disappoint under any circumstances 😒

I lived in EL Segundo for several years, just south of LAX and fairly close to the Ocean. In the summertime, there would be a thick fog every morning that would only start to burn off at around 10am or so. I’m guessing it comes off of the Pacific.

I was driving through Calabasas later that day. The fog was still soup thick.

@@bclarg3248 wow

@@user-jn1xw6gf9c sorry you experienced that, I can only imagine how terrible it was

The fog must be really bad

While safety is the number one factor it can be overshadowed with the mentality of “pleasing the customer”. It’s a really common bad habit that pilots fall into.

@@janewoolf2038 I can see that happening

Shouldn't have been flying in the first place id rather get fired than forgetting about safety and having any ones blood on my hands while in fact putting myself in danger as well

@@akaliimaene2103 It’s really easy for anyone to say something like that in hindsight, when at the time you’d likely be thinking things such as “it’s really not that bad”.

@one nation exactly but kobe should of at least considered that its foggy lets travel by land this time could of took a limousine or drove his own. but R.I.P.

@Herbert Ashley did you talk to him to know this?

Ya it is a very good animation

@@wyattedwards2 no it isn't, it's X-Plane. GTA V is ancient

@@wyattedwards2 But it is an animation...

F

@@hamnchee that’s what I said

That's what I got out of it. Why didn't he keep an eye on his instruments? This would have been avoided. :(

Gotta wonder how much chatter was going on in the cockpit? Was this pilot Kobe's favorite because they got along well and the pilot was distracted by their conversation?

@@jeandunow7794 or flying in milk and disoriented?

He was flying in VFR conditions the majority of the flight

@@dianecelento4974 Yes. Sad. Helicopter pilots have a habit of using Visual FR. Some how, he was distracted and didn't focus on using Instrument FR.

Not how god works

@@jimgreco6279 So, tell us how God works then. Does he text you? Hm?

@@jimgreco6279 you should atleast capitalize GOD like bruh have respect that stuff makes me mad

I loved him rip

@@haley5118 it's a word like any other

@B T don't bring your political views to this channel. 🤬

Which celebrities did you meet?

so you're saying Kobe forced this guy to fly?

What does the election have anything to do with the crash?

@B T 9 people were killed in the crash and again that has what to do with elections?

I worked for Atlantic Aviation at north Philly airport for several years as an aircraft Mechanic and later as an Avionics technician .I got to test fly aircraft after we completed maintenance on the airframe or the avionics. It was an all night schedule that I did not like, but working on the airplanes and test flying was fun. I got to see Grace Kelly and help board her on the bosses private jet. It was a fun job and loved having free flights on cooperating airlines!

So sad

@@Johnwilldo I work for British airways in London Heathrow.I fly the a350 my fav plane to fly

I work for British airways in London Heathrow and I fly the a350

@@sahulsathik5857 That is a busy airport! I worked for a commuter airline as an aircraft mechanic and as an avionics tech. We worked night shift from 10 pm until 7;00AM.I got to test fly several General aviation aircraft but nothing very fancy...no jets.I enjoyed metal fabrication the best. We had several Nord's that had a nasty habit of dropping their landing gear Pods!.

So wish they had all driven there.......😥💔RIP to all on board x🌈😭

In which first world problems will you engage?

A lot of them are

Helicopter crashes are literally all preventable but the companies don’t make efforts to have plans and mechanisms that are useful in case crashes happen.

@@ahmeddirie2138 that’s a stretch. Are some preventable sure. Are most preventable maybe. Are all preventable not unless we get rid of helicopters and never fly again.

1. The weather conditions were clear at the departure point, and at Bryant’s house. Had he looked up prior to the flight, he’d not have seen fog. Furthermore, it wasn’t Bryant’s responsibility to assess the conditions for flight anyway, in fact he wasn’t even qualified to do that. Naturally, he trusted the judgment of the professional(s), just as you do whenever you board an airliner. 2. You don’t know what was or wasn’t said between the pilot and Bryant, and you certainly don’t know that the pilot would have been fired if the dialogue you imagine had tad taken place. There’s no point in wildly speculating about something of which you have no actual knowledge. The accident was 100% pilot error, and neither Bryant nor any passenger was to blame in any way, not even for the failure to prevent it which you’re imagining.

@@cardinalRG - _"There was heavy fog over the region that morning. The cloud cover was so bad that news helicopters in Los Angeles were silent, and the LA Police Department's fleet of helicopters - the largest law enforcement helicopter fleet in the country - were all grounded. The LA County Sheriff's Department had also halted flight operations for its helicopter fleet, based farther south in Long Beach."_ v.i.a. TWS Get off of your high horse. Kobe had previously fired a few pilots and liked this one because he was a yes man and would push the limit if need be. They were running late that morning. An experienced pilot should know when and when not to fly and there is no reason it should've been up in the air that morning. LAPD and weather report copters don't even fly in that kind of weather. He also had a history of flying in bad weather against regulations. If the pilot had put his foot down and said, "I can't fly you." I have no doubt that Kobe would've employed another pilot that would've took the risk. If two or even one of those decisions had been made, everyone in that crash would be alive today.

@@CBright7831 --You’re missing the point, so I’ll re-state it. You claimed that Bryant could have “looked up” and seen foggy skies. This is incorrect, because the skies at both the departure point and even his home were NOT foggy. The diminished visibility and fog were encountered far into the flight, and if you can muster an ounce of effort, you'll see this confirmed in the investigative data. Moreover, it isn’t a passenger’s responsibility, nor is a passenger even qualified, to assess the conditions for flight anyway. The pilot alone does that, and the pilot alone makes the decision to fly or not. Any accident resulting from that decision is the pilot’s fault alone. Law enforcement does a different kind of flying than the accident flight, so the grounding of law enforcement helicopters that day says nothing about the flight conditions for Bryant’s flight, which were not inherently unsafe anyway. After all, there were other aircraft flying that day, in the same area as Bryant’s aircraft, and doing so perfectly safely. In their ignorance, the media have hyped the grounding of law enforcement helicopters, and you've been taken in by that hype. You’re obviously ignorant of the fact that the pilot was IFR-rated, meaning that he was rated to fly in even *zero visibility,* and the aircraft was equipped to do so. _” An experienced pilot should know when and when not to fly…”_ That‘s correct, and that’s why the pilot alone makes the decision to fly or not. It doesn’t matter what kind of pressure a passenger attempts to exert-and you don’t know that Bryant even tried this-the pilot is to blame if the decision to fly results in an accident. _” If the pilot had put his foot down and said, "I can't fly you." I have no doubt that Kobe would've employed another pilot that would've took the risk.”_ You weren’t there to hear any conversations, and you’re not a mind reader. You have no idea what was said and what wasn’t said. For all you know about it-which is nothing--Bryant himself was hesitant to fly and the pilot talked _him_ into it. Your guesswork is pointless and cruel. _”If two or even one of those decisions had been made, everyone in that crash would be alive today”_ That’s a silly claim. If they’d traveled by car that day, then they might have perished in a road accident instead. Or any one of them might have died since then by another cause. Your certainty that they’d be alive today is as baseless as your sham insight into the cause of the accident itself. Why not just stick to the known facts, and leave aside all the armchair judgments and victim-blaming? And no, I’m not speaking from a “high horse”, but my knowledge is indeed many levels above yours. I’m a (retired) commercial pilot and flight instructor, and have worked on accident investigations. You’re a non-pilot who thinks he’s/she’s a mind reader, and who believes celebrity gossip more than expert investigators. You should ponder that difference.

@@cardinalRG - Any person can look up and assess what the weather is going to be like. It was cloudy skies this morning with high wind. You can make off the cuff decisions right then and there. "Look the sky is grey, and it's getting cooler, so we're not going to the park today." However, I put more of the blame on the pilot. He's a pilot and should know of the weather conditions before even flipping the switch to the turn to helicopter on. Kobe was probably in a hurry to get to his daughter's practice, asked the pilot if they could make it on time, the pilot said, "Yes, sir. Definitely. Get everyone on board." and lives were changed forever over an avoidable mistake.

@@CBright7831 --A non-pilot Googling the weather might use the information to cancel a golf round, but would be in no position to assess the conditions of a planned flight. As I’ve already explained, and which is still going over your head, assessing the conditions for flight requires expertise. Otherwise, passengers would decide if aircraft fly or not, rather than pilots, wouldn’t they? Pilots and aircraft fly in rain, snow and zero visibility quite often (I’ve done it myself countless times) including the morning of Bryant’s accident, in the same, small area. That alone defeats your naive claim that conditions were inherently unsafe, and that Bryant should have known it. _” It was cloudy skies this morning with high wind.”_ Oh, now you’ve given up the “foggy skies” claim and have re-positioned onto “cloudy skies”, eh? What kind of clouds were they? What altitudes were the clouds? What directions were their movements? It hardly matters, for the obvious reasons I’ve already given you, more than once. now Face it-you’re unqualified to assess both the weather and flight conditions, and you’re doubling down on very wrong guesses. Why not just open your mind and learn something instead? _” Kobe was probably…asked the pilot if they could make it on time, the pilot said, ‘Yes, sir. Definitely. Get everyone on board.’”_ Why do you keep guessing about conversations you weren’t there to hear? Does it excite you to think you have some insight that the experts don’t? _”… lives were changed forever over an avoidable mistake.”_ Yes, that’s absolutely correct. But only the pilot made the fatal mistakes. No passenger did so. Franky, you seem hell bent to blame Bryant somehow, despite utterly no basis for doing so.

Yup. "Don't push your pilot to do the wrong thing, no matter how important you think you are!"

Could have just travelled by road due to poor air visibility. What was the hurry

It was boths fault Bryant and pilot,,Bryant blindly trusted on pilot and only wanted him to be his pilot and pilot made a silly mistake,,,this is so embarrassing

@@varunmanjunath6204 Se7en deadly sins...greed and pride.

@@varunmanjunath6204 Yeah right. OK, it's a two hour drive. Just leave two hours earlier.

They did get up early...they attended Church first...that day

@@davidarmendariz2462 dam fr I didn’t know that

@Zsuzsanna Varga your point?

@Zsuzsanna Varga it most likely did help they are in a better place now, god pulled them out of this world so they didn't have to experience the horrible year of 2020

@@MainStreetElectricalParade uh oh we have a edgelord man this guy is so cool and edgy

The existence of rampant homelessness in the face of extreme wealth and excess should be having you "reevaluate" your life, all life. Weird priorities.

take the pilot off the condolences , he is a murdererer

@@hughjanus8211 Sure buddy

@@hughjanus8211 don't be ridiculous, yes the pilot more than likely was at fault but it was just a horrible accident. Nothing more

Use commas

@@mrgold3845 but have a higher chance of survival

@@GamerGee think about it, when plane crash, they always get up on the news. But when car crash, they don’t.

Lol

.-.

@@GamerGee Traffic makes 2 hours 2.5/etc.

Nah the lesson learned is don't fly in bad weather conditions if you don't have the experience

learnt huh

Dangmei, you are absolutely right! The other pilots that Kobe was not happy with because of refueling and personality issues would have safely gotten to the destination. Would I want a asshole elite surgeon operating on me, or a incompetent nice guy?

@@richcollins513 yeah, learnt is actually proper, a lot of the world says it, much to my dismay

you're all talking like you're experts now... all of the sudden...

Then why the hell did he keep on climbing🤬

@@chadgalavan to avoid crashing into the academy

They weren’t flying to the academy. They were flying to Camarillo airport and driving from there. It were still 20 miles away.

By the time all this happened they could have almost been there by Car in early Am. No traffics! Better safe then sorry...Rip!...for family so sorry for your loss🙏

@@siry5164 Fame has brought him arrogance to travel by car where he can fly in style.. It is the others who died on his heli who are the real unfortunate ones.

It’s better that they didn’t know they didn’t suffer hopefully

@Megan Ice wtf is wrong with you

@Megan Ice i dont see the biden problem

I've always wondered that, did they know that they were about to crash and panicking, or were they just riding along and all of a sudden... Boom. I also wonder if Vanessa got to see them and talk to them before they left that morning or was she still asleep?

@@MiamiBlossom I have the same thought with every plane crash that happens on the news, like if they panicked and what their last thoughts were and if they got to hold their loved ones hand (if they were together on the plane). I always, always hope that most don’t even realize, or they’re asleep, then it’s over and there’s nothing, no pain, no tears, no present thought. And I’m sure the entire family were probably all up that morning, since it wasn’t super early in the morning (I hope they were at least).

I THOUGHT THAT LOOKS BAD AS HE TAKES OF WAVING TO HIS SUPPORTERS

Once your in the fog what is one to do?

OB Luv go up but he didn’t do that

@@oddcooper5661 Bummer. I had a dream about Kobe around 2008/2009ish and then the next day I met a dog named Kobe. I read about a person that stated in a tweet in 07 they had a vision of his crash. Crazy. The world really loves this man.

Yes a very big fly .lol

No offense to The Flight Channel, I love their videos but to be fair most sentences here are lifted off Wikipedia verbatim.

@@Trebiane They provide the visual aspect. And how do you know those wiki authors arent behind this page?

Well said.

So were the passengers on board terrified knowing they were going to crash during this descending? Or were they all just sitting there and boom, it happened so fast they had no time to be frantic and didn’t know what was about to happen?

@@danieller3450 Because of the G-forces of the turn it probably felt like they were climbing, considering how thick the fog was if anyone saw it coming they wouldn't have had time to scream.. But the fact that the Pilot ignored his most basic flight instruments is INSANE to me - Someone who flew Flight Sim 10 as a kid..... His Artificial horizon instrument could've saved all of their lives if the Pilot just paid attention to it...

@@OGPatriot03 his brain must've had a really bad day

I think the whole world is now in more trouble than kobe

I think the World we are living between thick fog vs 2020 visible safety hi-tech. And skilled pilot are we there yet ? Hmmmmmm

@@jimmyrodasmolestina979 I know what you mean, this Kobe crash is way down the list on what matters most today,...lets think about the regular people not over paid basketball players.

Im here for you Shaneca..

@@JohnnyBGood11 @JohnnyBGood11 my heart goes out to anyone who may have lost their life so tragically..it doesn't matter if you're a celebrity or not..I'm not going to negate the fact that this is a sad situation especially for those babies because of covid 19 🙄🤦

Agree, gawd and the devil are always scanning.

And also don't fly in helicopters, then you won't die from that since you are not in control

@@jaybee5478 helicopters are the most safest way to travel

@@kevinbob4344 Wrong

kobe psyop matt mauser laughing 3 days later