Which board do you buy? // Floatwheel ADV vs Onewheel GTS comparison

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With Onewheel holding the market of Self balancing boards for years, now that Floatwheel has entered the ring it makes it harder to decide which board to spend your hard earned money on. In this video, Jeff will walk you through all of the pros and cons between the Floatwheel ADV and the Onewheel GTS next to each other in the easiest way we can! Each board has different specs, but the outcome between the different tests are surprising! Did this video help you figure out which board to buy? If it did, let us know in the comments below!
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0:00 - Intro
1:13 - Safety
3:59 - Speed and Torque
6:59 - Price and Bang 4 ya' Buck
8:11 - Range
9:18 - Size and Weight
11:05 - Looks and Aesthetics
12:23 - 3rd party support and customization
17:33 - Repairability and Cost of Ownership
21:04 - Outro
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@f1uckyou 7 ай бұрын

Firstly, ignore the account name, old account, didn't want to register but had to to watch videos back in like 2009. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="370">6:10</a> hey that's me, I am that 'little lady'!. I recently hit 40.5 again and it was at 85% duty cycle going slightly downhill. I weigh about 140 currently, and this was on an 8psi 7x11.5in Burris TX-22. Thanks for the shoutout! Was a pleasure meeting some of your crew (Elijah, Jesse, and old crew Bodhi!) down at Hflux. I don't really post often, not a social media person at all, so I'll just say it here: Thanks for all your content. Thanks for supporting right to repair. Thanks for your time, dedication, and hard work. But most importantly, thanks for never forgetting your community. As you say yourself, Float on my Friends ^_^

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

nfn but we'd Love to be able to see u Rip somewhere on social media 👀!

@CALented 7 ай бұрын

8 psi?? I run my hoosier slick on double that at 16psi. Doesn't that wear the tire super fast? How does it help you gain max speed?

@MasonH24 7 ай бұрын

Respect. That's sketchy af and takes insane skill. Just cruising my WTF'd XR at 20 :D

@vdmx2824 7 ай бұрын

We knew that was happening a year ago so its not a shock for anybody

@vafixer8885 7 ай бұрын

With a name like that, its not a stretch to believe she hits 40 - The crazy ladies are always the most fun, its either cats tattoos or now onewheels. Things are improving.

@floatwheel 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Jeff! and the camera man behind, you guys made the Adv look so nice OMG, it's the right exact most beautiful angle we appreciate it in SolidWorks. 🤣

@kunjo7 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Tony for developing a competing product to advance the sport! I can’t wait for the FW V2! I want it now 😭

@rich3677 7 ай бұрын

TONY FOR PRESIDENT OF AMERICA!!!

@ElectricVehicleSpace 7 ай бұрын

When it comes to power, torque, speed and range ADV PRO is almost half more powerful than GT S. Jeff why don't you say it like it is? You can see if in the speed test how much faster and farther it got. Come on bud!

@dezh2544 7 ай бұрын

Just worry about patent infringements 😂

@sdmods619 7 ай бұрын

Don't get careless. Do what you have to to ensure your product doesn't get stopped at the border. Even if it means that delivery remains a black hole with more delay than bearable, you have to play it safe.

@user-me6nm6mz6i 7 ай бұрын

I am a GT user in South Korea. Within a month of purchase, there was a breakdown that caused the power to fail, and it was so hard to send GT to the U.S. for repairs. Air delivery asked for more than $1,000 one-way, and it was even impossible due to battery issues. After all, it takes 2 months just to send it by shipping. Shh. I'm exchanging emails with TONY for the next one wheel.

@h8GW 7 ай бұрын

Also VESC your FM board so it doesn't become a useless doorstop.

@bigfut1234 7 ай бұрын

The same story in Europe.

@robras2850 7 ай бұрын

Buy a float wheel and you can do repairs yourself save 💵

@rafelOrCo 7 ай бұрын

Smart guy

@MMDCLXVI 7 ай бұрын

That's one of the reasons I'm hesitant about getting a onewheel. Aside from how expensive it is, close to €3000 for the GT (Ireland), there is also the issue of what happens if the board breaks. We have the right to repair in Ireland (well, the EU), but if I have to send it back to America for repair, the question is, is it even worth it. Would it cost me just as much to ship it, get it repaired, and then pay for delivery (and likely custom fees) Then it would be to buy the ADV pro. On the other hand, I could buy the GT from an Irish store, but ADV, I need to purchase it from China, pay delivery and whatever import tax/fee customs. And Irish customs love slapping you with massive import fees. For example, I purchased a set of Lego lights from China, the lights, including delivery, cost €110. Custom charged €50 import fee. I can only imagine the field day they would have if I tried getting the ADV.

@SMASHINGblargharghar 7 ай бұрын

If I didn't already dive deep into VESC, I'd have already ordered a Floatwheel. It's the superior alternative to anything FM makes

@qapaMcFly 7 ай бұрын

DIY is still better :)

@blaskotron 7 ай бұрын

Honestly Jeff should be CEO of future motion and they'd blow up anything in the market

@dustinpugh8222 7 ай бұрын

I second that!

@synthetic4 7 ай бұрын

Future Motion had its chance, and we all know how it went

@user-lw6sp5pk1y 7 ай бұрын

Jeff is too good of a guy to be in that environment. I say he should keep serving the community.

@PapaP86 7 ай бұрын

100% That would be awesome. I'd actually buy FM again if they didn't hate their customers.

@kaveman_4242 Ай бұрын

Jeff is awesome!

@jinkiescoob 7 ай бұрын

Man the ADV aerial video shot was amazing!!

@Zetler 7 ай бұрын

Great compare and contrast shot right there.

@h8GW 7 ай бұрын

Broh was much more diplomatic to Future Motion than he needed to be and _a lot more_ than they deserve.

@mattm6751 7 ай бұрын

Legal Motion*

@Zetler 7 ай бұрын

It must take a ton of courage to publish this video considering recent events. Surely Jeff is persona non grata at FM by now at best.

@tom.m 7 ай бұрын

That's been true for years. FM won't let dealers sell accessories from other brands, blatantly rips off Jeff's products, and has tried to use their lawyers to stop TFL from even making accessories. Huge respect to Jeff for remaining classy and diplomatic despite all FM's bullshit.

@jinkiescoob 7 ай бұрын

Can’t argue - that’s a super fair assessment right there!

@dahlgren 7 ай бұрын

Freaking love my Float Wheel! After being literally let down and dropped multiple times by one wheel, I'll never go back.

@ArchangelMichael94 7 ай бұрын

Have loved my GT and would love to upgrade for some extra performance that I definitely don’t need, from the brand that kicked off this thing. I just can’t give Future Motion another dollar until they change their ways

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

If down the line your gt stops or the battery ages, know you CAN vesc it. :)

@milesonewheelwinter 7 ай бұрын

@@MrDmadnessTell me more. I've been wanting to do this for a while now to my GTI didn't know that was an option.

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

@@milesonewheelwinter makers pev, or just look into "lil focker)

@jacobtirk6438 4 ай бұрын

I’m new to onewheel, what is this criticism that I keep seeing about onewheel? What is wrong with them?

@ArchangelMichael94 4 ай бұрын

@@jacobtirk6438 They have a lot of practices in place that are pretty anti-consumer. They sue into bankruptcy anything too close to a Onewheel, which makes it harder for third parties to make parts. Want to make different foot pads, you better plan on making the rear only cuz the front sensor is theirs alone. Want to swap out a battery? Good luck if you disconnect that cable you're likely, if not certain to brick your board. Need work done? Sure there might be plenty of shops in your area capable of it, but they want you to spend hundreds of dollars on shipping it to their 1 location in the world that can do it. Shipping is no problem for you? you better hope that there is no sign that you or anyone has touched something in there that they don't like, or else they might just send it back to you without doing any repairs. Sadly the list goes on :(

@indetrucks 7 ай бұрын

I will never give Future Motion another dime. They have shown their true colors and I'm just not a supporter of their business.

@JeffreyHallford 7 ай бұрын

Same here brother

@deanaoxo 7 ай бұрын

I don't mind buying their XR power plugs. . .

@flowsolo 7 ай бұрын

Amen to that!

@YeeLeeHaw 7 ай бұрын

Same.

@ozlantern4707 5 ай бұрын

Why

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

Loved how you accurately critiqued FM's repair process 🏆

@asddfdsdf 7 ай бұрын

I love that there is finally actual competition for FM. They were the only name in the game for far too long and this will finally encourage better features, performance, and price. Their GT-S price is out of hand. I've been waiting to get away from FM and their anti-consumer practices

@bradleybeukes8200 7 ай бұрын

It's a no brainer adv all the way!

@Jameslangford-rc6sw 7 ай бұрын

A no brainer 😂😂 Bro didn't even watch the video

@kunjo7 7 ай бұрын

@@Jameslangford-rc6sw actually the response is subjective, for him it’s a no brainer. Personally for me, I would go ADV because of range, price and the ability to repair the board without FM telling me to go f**k myself

@Jameslangford-rc6sw 7 ай бұрын

@@kunjo7 Obviously its subjective. But this a comparison video not a no brainer this is what you should buy video. Also, let the bro I was actually talking to tell me that

@r00kiet80 5 ай бұрын

@@Jameslangford-rc6swalso a nobrainer for me the fact that they have similar performance and one is half the price and repairable is enought to know. No further comparison needed at that point.

@Jameslangford-rc6sw 5 ай бұрын

@@r00kiet80 If thats how you want to see it🤣🤣

@fixmypev 7 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1177">19:37</a> - This is where we come in. 🤙🏼⚡️🛠️

@crystalfrancis218 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for all you guys do for the community. Much ❤️

@benlay750 7 ай бұрын

Congrats to Jeff for taking the gloves off with regards to the relationship with Future Motion.

@g00-eye10 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video! I don't care if floatwheel is heavier. I'm turned off by Future Motion's ( 1980s/90s Apple Computer proprietary ideals. ) Which is why to this day I don't buy Apple products ( you're way too young to know the ordeals of dealing with apple to proprietary stuff versus IBM and IBM clones computers.) So to Future Motion I say change your ways before consumers start to hate you and to Floatwheel I say... You're my IBM clone of electric one wheel boards, keep the fight going and thank you!

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%. I am old enough to know Apple as well. Why would you make boolean logic that flips a true to false and then flips it back in the end lines? It takes more time to process, but hey it does make stuff proprietary ;) Now I'm just waiting for people to shit on me here.. reality is harsh :) Fomf

@ChristopheGUIVANT 7 ай бұрын

Well now things are clear thanks to TFL. Floatwheel has built something equivalent to Future Motion with a different way of doing things, that of listening to users just like TFL does so well. Long live to the great Future Motion and the baby Floatwheel in healthy and respectful competition!

@sylrider 7 ай бұрын

Except it’s already war between the 2: floatwheel clearly enforced patents (that are BS anyways) and FM suing Floatwheel. 😅

@TimFerda 7 ай бұрын

I wait eagerly for these videos every few days 🙏

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

same

@igotthatcrypto7169 7 ай бұрын

I love my GT-S… Such a sick board!

@MasonH24 7 ай бұрын

Be me, XR owner with 3,000 miles. I'm buying that ADV bois.

@BrandEver117 7 ай бұрын

I will never buy something from FM again. If they survive long enough to make an XR and/or Pint style board, I will definitely be buying a Floatwheel. Oh, and they should put a soundbard on it for a pushback/low power audible warning without your phone for those who want it. As jank as haptic buzz is, I'm glad Onewheel finally has SOMETHING.

@SeanPaulNotTheSinger 7 ай бұрын

I love these videos. As fair and unbiased as possible with the goal of getting people riding something that will make people have the most fun, being the best fit for their wants and aptitude. Thank you, as always. BTW, my GT-S arrived the other day. I'm that guy that needs the VESC stuff to be a little simpler before tackling it.

@Jameslangford-rc6sw 7 ай бұрын

Yeah for sure, like Jeff said if you don't know exactly what to change and what to change to make other changes, it will buck you while riding. Gt s shaping is great, not quite as good as vesc, but at least its simple

@smokeyBJJ 7 ай бұрын

It’s a super simple initial setup if you can read and follow steps. Once it’s setup you can easy upload many different tunes with a click of the button. There’s no real need to learn what each setting does, altho you will eventually begin to understand. Don’t be intimidated, it’s so worth it! I’m coming from and xr, and gt

@Mase32 7 ай бұрын

@@smokeyBJJif I am coming from pint to GTS and don’t know anything about shaping and custom can you dumb this down for me? Haha just trying to understand that is all 😊

@MisterNutty 7 ай бұрын

@@Mase32 Smokey is contesting that vesc isn't that hard to set up (which I will agree with but still not as simple as clicking buy on a website and getting a functional board at your door.) For your situation of pint to GTS, I assume the pint doesn't have custom shaping? I don't have one myself to check. It's just another shaping profile but you have several settings you can tweak like "aggressiveness" and "carveability" which change how the board behaves.

@Jameslangford-rc6sw 7 ай бұрын

@@smokeyBJJ Uh huh. What I was saying is that there's nothing you can press in the onewheel app that will make the board shut off while your going 20. Ive tried it, I have friends who've tried it, I know what I've seen.

@GPeter7 7 ай бұрын

Future Motion it's the worst company to deal with, especially on the warranty repair, at least in my case, they will try to find any excuse not to fix it, first, they tell me that my GT it's over a year old from the day of purchase and it is out of warranty, I tell them to please check again date of purchase on the original receipt the one I submitted, after that, they replied yes we can fix it, but I would have to pay for shipping cost, if it's a warranty repair why do I have to pay for shipping costs? especially since I'm in the United States, I would understand if I were in a different country, but I never get a straight answer from them about that. So I decided to fix it on my own, and never support those greedy bastards again

@RIDE-o-REBELLION-o-FLOATCAST 7 ай бұрын

You’re so fair. I applaud you. Especially with all the shade ‘those that shall not be named” have been. Class act.

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

Great leaders are those that lead because they love the community and the sport, Tfl are riders, they know the community cause they are the community, as is Tony, as is anybody reading this... we are bigger than "they who shall not be named" ;)

@chavamendez25 7 ай бұрын

All Hail The ADV 🙌🏼

@texasredfox7607 7 ай бұрын

The GTS was the board the GT should’ve been. I bought the GTS and just installed an Enduro on it. It’s such a huge improvement from the XR. I wanted a complete product, not a project. I hate FM practices, but love the boards 🤷‍♂️

@19hundoc47 5 ай бұрын

That makes no sense. Then the next board FM makes is going to be the board the “GTS should have been” It’s normal for every version to get better. Duh

@auden_builds 7 ай бұрын

Thx jeff ❤ great vid

@liveanddirect100 7 ай бұрын

Another great one!

@p0rtugeek 7 ай бұрын

Nice comparison! Very fair to both options.

@Magic_sk8board_media 7 ай бұрын

I love Jeffs non biased commentary lol! You the GOAT! I can't wait to see the new team rider! Give us a hint!

@gergosnoo 7 ай бұрын

Great video Jeff! I agree with all aspects.

@brodyport6395 7 ай бұрын

Lessss goooo! Excited for this one to drop

@user-be9zj2iy3z 7 ай бұрын

My FW is amazing. Worth the effort and wait.

@iangrayimagery 7 ай бұрын

Great vid Jeff 🤘🏽

@therealacefurby 7 ай бұрын

All I need is you to make Bang Bumpers for ADV now. P.S. with that background music going I was sort of expecting the GT-S and ADV to be getting it on like it was 1974

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

Bow chicka wow wow!

@therealbergexperience5640 7 ай бұрын

FM is watching 🤨🤣 good stuff Jeff. Always keeping it 💯

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

word

@deanaoxo 7 ай бұрын

If Jake is the professor , Jeff is the Ambassador...

@azzaahhYT 7 ай бұрын

Buy the floatwheel, it's simple more value for your dollar, hands down.

@finns8438 7 ай бұрын

I bet FM is shaking in their boots rn knowing someone has a better product than them for half the price. they're assembling their avengers team of lawyers 😂

@mattm6751 7 ай бұрын

"We're changing our company name from Future Motion, to Legal Motion, to more clearly reflect our principles."

@dustinpugh8222 7 ай бұрын

Great video, been waiting for this!! Where's the prop cup? Lol

@Buckydoe31 7 ай бұрын

SLAY BRO SLAY ❤ LOVE THIS. You’re the real GOAT!

@ChameleonRails 7 ай бұрын

Enough about the boards, let’s talk about that super Dope Float sign!!!!!!😎

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 #1 🤘

@chrisc790 7 ай бұрын

Did Jeff just say his pick is the board that makes him very little or no money? That tells me everything I need to know.

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

zackly

@shanelibeau9040 7 ай бұрын

Enduro is magic on the ADV

@brahamyoung1951 7 ай бұрын

Having coffee & watching Ski 2weeks ....&spend the rest of my life on my Xrs They are fantastic.... Thanks for all the info Braham from downunder

@nicoaleman 7 ай бұрын

Some say Jeff's still holding a mug to this very day

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

All right I'm about to let everyone in on a little secret. When I first started filming these types of videos all those years ago, I was so nervous and camera shy I had to have a beer in my hand. Now I'm good to go with just a coffee, tea, or kombucha in a sweet mug ☕️

@nicoaleman 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFloatLife We love to see character development 👏

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFloatLifeahhh, I thought For sure you just accidentally super glued it to your hand :)

@PEVD_Weston 7 ай бұрын

It's the whole Ricky Bobby what do I do with my hands and if you don't like big red well then chew something else

@tiztrain 7 ай бұрын

They going to make a movie about this

@FloatinCanada 7 ай бұрын

Great video! I haven't had a chance to try a gt-s but I definitely do want to try one some day but the price is a big no no to me. Being in canada makes it even more expensive, then shipping to the US for repairs is a whole other ballgame. I've been thrilled with my adv so far.

@wisi4044 7 ай бұрын

I live in europe💀 Flooatweel is the solution

@brodyport6395 7 ай бұрын

ADV can also fit big tire gang natively (with removing the fender deletes that is)

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

This is true!

@-JohnSmith- 7 ай бұрын

Tony made the bumpers extra brittle so you could sell bangs for them

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

Well that sure was kind of him! 🤣

@quaili9068 7 ай бұрын

Without watching yet, I've just ordered my adv last night 🤘🏼

@darrenfrancis8584 Ай бұрын

I never even heard of float wheel before and got to say you totally sold me.

@BillyShredder 7 ай бұрын

GTS cost as much as 2 ADVs 😂😂😂 thats wild. Epic video dudes 👏🏼

@Smike2095 7 ай бұрын

I would add that if you live outside of the US and you are able to repair things yourself, the adv is gonna be the better choice I live in Italy, any one wheel would cost me their full price+import taxes+international shipping (which are both A LOT) and if anything brake I would have to pay both TWICE AGAIN to ship the board to repair The ADV for almost half the price has better performances, better tunability and can be repaired with less money Also I see nobody talking about the potential of the cannoncore motor: while I feel like the hypercore motor is reaching its full potential in the GTS, in the future with better batteries and controllers, the cannoncore motor could give so much more, that's why I look forward to see the ADV gen II I think getting a GTS is worth it only if you don't want the hassle of buying with crypto and assembling the board yourself, and still, personally I would be inclined to buy a normal GT; getting a stock GTS in Europe would end up costing me almost 4k, it's just too much....

@TheHitman- 7 ай бұрын

Switch to electric unicycle like "freshly charged" did on their youtube channel.

@Smike2095 7 ай бұрын

@@TheHitman- I think they are two separate things, switching from one to the other is not a direct, natural change

@TheHitman- 7 ай бұрын

@Smike2095 Well, they are single rider, single stance, multi directional PEV's that require you to lean in the direction you want to travel. They are different in design and stance position...and range, speed and waterproofing, and durability and location travel abilities but beyond that are essentially alike. And beyond all that neither are "natural" once you ride an euc though you won't be buying another FM "dare you to touch it" paper weight.

@jeremyneworleans 7 ай бұрын

I dig my ADV pro rails. Looks and feels like a finished product, a solid road monster.

@mattm6751 7 ай бұрын

I love that a good %age of the community is standing by the innovation and building of the sport offered by having more options for boards and parts, rather than Legal Motion's walled garden approach ❤️

@hoeliris7984 7 ай бұрын

Onewheel are vastly overpriced and I'm in Europe, I don't want to send my board to California. Plus I hate monopoly. Cudo to all the US people in the comment that stand up against FM and for FW for the sake of competition, even if FW is not in the US. I respect you for that! PS: my ADV is incredible.

@GazzasStuff 7 ай бұрын

Water/dirt ingress? Really appreciate your balanced review here. 10/10.

@real_ez8412 7 ай бұрын

Out of principal I would get an adv for my next wheel. I'm still riding an XR when it eventual dies ADV why simple I don't have to buy a new board when it breaks or overpay for repairs could prob also just do them myself. Also in a years time adv will prob have just as much parts and upgrades if not more because open source no lock ❤ Fm did thus to themselves but the sport needs to grow and it does that with or without them. I also heard I could just vesc my XR with a kit. Which I might also consider.

@xavicon64 7 ай бұрын

Cool video, but can't agree with the torque. ADV has way more torque at low speeds.

@MwumpSy 6 ай бұрын

I got my ADV Pro now! Add that to the tally in the Floathwheel community

@timwilliams73 7 ай бұрын

Jeff - thanks for another great video. I’m in the camp of not wanting to give FM another dime after dealing with a repair when the cheap motor cable connector on my GT fried both my controller and motor. That said, I haven’t seen a great video of how the differences in the ADV and the GTS affect the ride. Namely weight, FM vs. VESC software, and the torque curve. Would love to see a video that speaks to some of those differences and how they impact trail riding and pavement riding. Thanks for everything you do!!!

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

I buy the floatwheel because tony IS part of the community. His board is more power, user repairable, faster, cheaper, and fully customizable. Plus tony will never brick your board with an update or steal your components. Future motion is dead to me ( this is me im not saying you have to do or think as i do, i just present what ive experienced and know ) over 30,000 km ridden on xr model boards is my exp with onewheel, evey bowrd had issues ( self repaired ) some minor, others more major ( my v1 lives at the bottom of a rapids section of river due to ghosting Fomf

@Valcreee 7 ай бұрын

Thoughts on Jacks comments regarding TFL? Glad to see the community standing up for yall

@Grimmx50 7 ай бұрын

What did jack say about tfl?

@loganlaviolette3494 7 ай бұрын

@@Grimmx50look at the comments on FM’s most recent video

@RIDE-o-REBELLION-o-FLOATCAST 7 ай бұрын

@@loganlaviolette3494about how tfl must not have made Bodhi happy?

@tom.m 7 ай бұрын

@@loganlaviolette3494Any chance you could copy paste here or give a summary? I don't even give FM content clicks anymore if I can at all avoid it.

@noma_es_sebas 7 ай бұрын

humble savage is crazy. he really rips it harder then last time!

@Buckydoe31 7 ай бұрын

Jeff’s the best

@justinb9356 7 ай бұрын

Due to floatwheel's stance on right to repair AND that they are half the price, I don't think that I'll ever buy from futuremotion again (unless they make major changes). Thanks Jeff!

@hippie.matt. 7 ай бұрын

With my riding style I can get 35miles on my adv Pro, 180lbs, 13psi 🤙

@smokeyBJJ 7 ай бұрын

Same weight, riding both street and trail on the same ride (19psi/10psi) and managed 54kms

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

I'm stoked to hear it, that's about what I weigh.

@hippie.matt. 7 ай бұрын

@@smokeyBJJ Nice, my ride would be 90% street comfortably cruising at 30-35km/h and 10% grass

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

sweet

@miclairmiclair876 5 ай бұрын

How much faster is the air shipping compared to the standard shipping. I’m ready to get one but I’m also very impatient

@EUCme 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, great video. I heard something about the first 200 motors on the ATV were a problem. Did your ATV have one of those initial 200 motors or was it a later generation?

@xavisuarez 7 ай бұрын

Love the Vidz 🎉 Nice comparison. Im the type of guy who throws money to get things fixed. If Im 100% sure Im going to break it, I going to pay it 😊

@MrJoefoefrombuffalo 7 ай бұрын

Excellent video thank you! 👍👍 How do we program the AdV? Can be done via Android, apple crap wireless? Herd can program it with known program set ups that some like for doing x y or a. How do we find them? Hopefully the aftermarket will follow AdV by next spring when I plan on getting a AdV pro. Would like flight fins or similar,fender with since I've become spoiled with them on my XR

@lialubinsky 7 ай бұрын

The shade thrown at his old roommate was so funny 😭

@brentsacolin 7 ай бұрын

The roommate getting stray hits is so 😭

@hackjealousy 7 ай бұрын

Any tfl products in planning for the adv?

@tighewerntz9306 7 ай бұрын

Would have loved a section on reliability. Otherwise great video Jeff! Still on the fence with the adv vs a proven brand. Loved my XR and love my gt. I’m mostly a country road hills and paved trails kind of old dude. Thanks!

@humbertoduenas89 7 ай бұрын

That will probably be further in the future as more ADVs start to age.

@richardpalan 5 ай бұрын

Nice comparison, do you have any experience with onewheel gts max amp charge for "aliexpress" charger? Original hypercharger says 3.5Amps so would it be save to charge at least 4 amps at 113v?

@monyx1101 7 ай бұрын

For world market outside of USA the shipping costs & times are big issues. Sold up and bought ADVPro for this RtoR.

@eekdestroy5329 7 ай бұрын

Great video as always, fair and considered. I love my GT but I spend a good portion of each ride worrying that it's about to die and become a paperweight. I don''t think I'd be too concerned if I had an ADV, knowing that I could fix it myself with parts ordered from FW. I think if you don't happen to live in the US this is a major concern, knowing you'll have to send it back to FM and pay a mystery price for the hopeful fix. I'd much rather keep my broken board and order parts and fit them myself. If you live in the UK and your Onewheel breaks the only sensible (cost) option you have is to sell it for spares or repair. Then buy a new one and repeat the process. With the Floatwheel you could potentially keep the same board for many many years as you repair it yourself as things break over time. I honestly don't think I'd buy the GTS even if it was cheaper than the ADV because I'd still have that worry that it was about to die from some unknown problem and I'd have to give FM yet more money. I don't want to be FM's bitch anymore.

@jinkiescoob 7 ай бұрын

Time for the ride footage video!!

@GiovanniGiorgo 5 ай бұрын

I went ADV, and I’m so glad I did. Crazy power, fair price, unlimited customization and I can fix it myself. The ADV is 100% not for everyone and in many cases the GTS is the better choice. 2 different products for 2 different markets.

@KuroMinoltaRR 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for being unbiased. One other thing not mentioned was that future motion did not acknowledge issues with their boards for the longest time. Ghosting and footpads activation…. Tony from floatwheel on the other hand, immediately rectified all issues immediately upon identification, let the community know what happens and why, and then sent feee replacements. Did FM do anything like this? Hmmm

@dustinhankins2153 7 ай бұрын

Jeff, we all know ADV is the better buy. Higher speed, more range, total software customization. Can repair yourself. Half the price. Be real. Don’t cater to future motion.

@jinkiescoob 7 ай бұрын

I think he presented it fairly, comparing them in categories. Everyone has a different value judgement on a particular category; for example, price might be the main thing, or it might not matter… depends on who you are. Some people love to customize and build, others it’s a nightmare. So it all depends on what you value. But I think FW is giving the community something that they value, which FM fails to recognize or provide for.

@AmericanSmallArms 7 ай бұрын

He was soft on FM.

@Alex-ge6fo 7 ай бұрын

He said all those things - what video did you watch? I see some people have become so polarized against FM, they have lost any sense of balanced viewpoint. To the point of everything FM does/makes is sh*t and FW can do no wrong (even when they do wrong, well it's ok). As we should all expect, Jeff sought to present a fair/balanced viewpoint of these two products and I think he largely succeeded in that. Viewers can watch this and see what is important to them and make their own decisions.

@ElectricVehicleSpace 7 ай бұрын

@nospamevereh 7 ай бұрын

You missed some major points. 1- You can disconnect the BMS from the battery and it will not brick the board. Which one does that I wonder! Why are these major "costs of ownership" being glossed over? All those Christmas toys with batteries not included, like WHEN after many miles of use the FM battery only charges to a 5 mile range and you want to replace it, you have to ship it to California, that is insane! 2- Even a two year old can replace the batteries in a toy. Anyone with over a room temperature IQ should have learned by the time they can ride one of these how to replace a battery but FM make that a money grab and ADV just sells you a battery you can replace. 3- Any competent shop on the planet can get ADV parts or use parts you bought and fix your board for you. That would be like any bike shop or garage for any other vehicle you, your parents, your grandparents etc etc owned in the past century. I cannot comprehend the staggering avarice of FM saying I have to ship it only to them to fix and with a blank check. There is me thinking "eat it" meant an ender off the front of the board with chicklets scattered on the sidewalk... Now I have to figure out bitcoin because FM cannot stand competition and Tony has to obfuscate finances to protect the ADV from BS lawsuits. LOVED my Kubota and rued the day of sale but have me a CASE 580 Super E now. NO computer in that 6 ton beast and easy to repair!

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

Tbh Future motion just gave floatwheel the best marketing possiblle for free. Copyright laws are not enforceable where floatwheel is based, payment in crypto is non traceable, and it's shipped not assembled so it becomes a diy project not a for sale packaged product. Im starting to think that Tony is a far greater mind than people are even giving him credit for, this is where the community takes over because the sport is bigger than the founder ( fm is not actually the founder but I digress )

@humbertoduenas89 7 ай бұрын

Floatwheel just gave the community a nice financial initiative to make videos showing step by step how to get coinbase set up and buy an ADV

@floatwheel 7 ай бұрын

Thank you sir I have learnt more english words in your single comment than on other 10 youtube videos combined🤣

@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын

@@floatwheel it's a fair trade, you've progressed the sport in a huge way and he unified the community and the community is rallying behind floatwheel

@auden_builds 7 ай бұрын

Jeff has a tractor?! XD

@idkimnotsure1960 7 ай бұрын

I was quoted 400$ just to send my XR in for a repair, a repair that i'd love to do myself if they'd only sell me the fkn parts. Also its a huge hassle when you live in Europe.

@douglassebold213 6 ай бұрын

Im curious why they haven't made any of the newer boards waterproof yet? Can you hose it off to clean it?

@alexglebo 7 ай бұрын

I've had a onewheels since they came out... I would have preferred to stay a loyal customer but the price does matter these days, adv is a higher performance product, and the gts is overpriced, it should have been in the 2500 range and then it would have been at least a closer call, but when you compare 1800 vs 3400, this isn't even close, sorry onewheel, you no longer have a monopoly and all these lawsuits look weak, just compete like a capitalist and let's get this sport to a new level, competition is good for everyone, let's all get the adv and put onewheel on notice

@brianres 7 ай бұрын

Would have loved to see an XR VESC in this side by side comparison. It is also an option to consider.

@3tch3r 7 ай бұрын

Why not a XR with a superflux motor? In all honesty the hypercore motor is not very powerful compared to the other stators out there

@demonhogo 7 ай бұрын

Not a fan of floatwheel yet, but maybe in the next few versions

@TheFloatLife 7 ай бұрын

That's fair! What would you like to see in future versions?

@justh0dl 7 ай бұрын

XR type body, pint weight and watt hours so you can take it on an airplane. Also the bigger footpads. As a size 12, I am *not* a fan of the smaller style/pint like footpads. I'm not a range demon. Make it a pocket rocket, glorified grocery getter / shredder and I'd be all over it. 35 lbs on the GT was already too heavy and the floatwheel just continues the trend of heavyweight boards which is a full stop for me. Also I don't understand the hate for the 6.5" hub. I don't ride trails much but I love the look of the bigger rim + how wide the tires can get. For example the performance tire is even wider than the Vega on the XR and I *love* it. I do appreciate that on the GT-S (which I own) FM went lighter and not heavier. That's how we should be going as an industry IMO.

@demonhogo 7 ай бұрын

@@justh0dlall fair points

@demonhogo 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFloatLifefor me it’s mostly just them being a newer company still. I didn’t buy OW immediately when it came out either. Let’s see how float wheel behaves over time. I bought meepo a few years ago when they had a similar dynamic to Boosted and I was burned by it. Ecosystem and aesthetic are important to me so I still like OW, but I’m rooting for Float Wheel

@jaefrmbk2k 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFloatLifethe upcoming smart BMS, more torque, more volts, more speed (sorry not sorry lol), lighter, better aesthetics, shorter range no problem, higher price no problem

@matthewholmes8638 7 ай бұрын

Floatwheel is better than onewheel in everyway. There isnt even really a comparison. When you factor in the price and everything. If you buy Gt-s it just for future motions name

@smokeyBJJ 7 ай бұрын

I was finished with FM when my GT died with 28% battery left. They wanted me to ship my board from Canada to California and wasn’t going to cover repairs because I had WTF rails. I decided to not send it in, and instead I disabled the “Charge to 90%” feature on the OW app and guess what? My battery now gets the range it’s supposed to. I swear that 90% feature is there to unbalance cells and cause users problems so they have to contact FM. Altho my GT now works properly, I no longer ride it and only ride my ADV now.

@MrJoefoefrombuffalo 4 ай бұрын

Please consider talking or posting more about the differences between the ADV and the ADV pro other than the rails on the ADV pro an adv bigger battery for adv

@tanmaybhattacharya9749 7 ай бұрын

Tfl X Floatwheel is what we need

@itsnotzura6859 7 ай бұрын

I peep a new tire in the back

@antecboy 5 ай бұрын

As an electronics engineer who is very into designing my own stuff and taking ownership of items that I buy, Futuremotion is essentially a no go for me from the start.