Preach Reacts to the President's FFXIV Expansion Ranking

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Жыл бұрын

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@ChrisMorray
@ChrisMorray Жыл бұрын
I love how they're the perfect mix of common (yet opposing) sentiments straight from the community, made to match the presidents perfectly.
@eonarose
@eonarose Жыл бұрын
I would have put endwalker in S, though I admit I’m a bit biased. I lost my girlfriend of 2 years a few months before it came out, so that last zone and hydaelyn’s trial probably hit me harder than most. The story was a satisfying ending to a decade long epic. It explained a lot of the mysteries we didn’t even know about until the expansion trailer and gave us a glimpse into pre history, which left open so many options for storylines down the road. The only parts I didn’t much like was going through Labyrinthos due to it feeling really slow and felt unnecessary, as well as Zodiark feeling like a throw away boss. He was built up for so long, as this all powerful super evil being and instead of having a super climactic battle with him, he was dealt with in a trial and more or less forgotten about.
@bazlow8069
@bazlow8069 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is the content I subscribe for. Biden makes some good points on HW. Obama makes good points on SB. Trump being chaos incarnate.
@ParticleBomb
@ParticleBomb Жыл бұрын
Definitely loved both of their points. HW and SB were great.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
>ShB >perfect pacing lol lmao
@marks2807
@marks2807 Жыл бұрын
For most part, but that zone where you had to get the train running again dragged so much pace wise.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@marks2807 Il Mheg was a bunch of meh chores, Rak'tika wasn't that great and I (and I think most people) dgaf about Runar's band, Ran'jit being annoying and Y'shtola's death fakeout, Amh Araeng part 2 (the trolley that you mention) and Kholusia part 2 (other than the dungeon+trial, which were basically the end of it, were all kinda shit. Emet made a lot of them bearable, but they weren't great tbh. Tempest before Amaurot wasn't that amazing either. And I say that as someone who loves ShB.
@wackyzap1304
@wackyzap1304 Жыл бұрын
For real. People get blinded by how good the last 2 hours of Shadowbringers were that they forget the first-half of Rak'Tika and most of Amh Arang.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@wackyzap1304 Or the first part of the Tempest. Or a good chunk of Il Mheg, or a major chunk of Kholusia pt 2. I love ShB a lot but people who think its pacing was considerably better than EWs just have a faulty memory.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
@@marks2807 That was the best part though.
@anacreon212
@anacreon212 Жыл бұрын
Stormblood hands down has some of the best end game content. Sure the extremes were not the most fun to grind out but they had some of the most unique mechanics in the entire game. Not to mention the Savage content had that perfect approach of Difficult but fun. We also got the first ultimates in UwU and ucob. Which showed that they team knew how to challenge the players.
@Max-ep5ir
@Max-ep5ir Жыл бұрын
I genuinely feel like I'm on crazy pills sometimes for liking Stormblood and thinking that Zenos is one of the best antagonists in the game.
@cgttabb
@cgttabb Жыл бұрын
same, and i love lyse lmao
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
I liked Stormblood but I cannot stand Zenos as a character at all. He is very one-note and it never felt like he had any development beyond "fight me lol", even during Endsinger.
@syoukoosanai8541
@syoukoosanai8541 Жыл бұрын
I have always felt crazy tbh cuz I think I like Stormblood more than Shadowbringers and almost as much as Endwalker lol though I admit to not liking Zenos a whole lot when I played SB for the first time, the final scenes of EW has made me retroactively change my opinion on him I knew what they were going for with Zenos at the time but I think i let myself get too annoyed by the "unwinnable boss fight that i could have absolutely won as a SCH if the devs hadnt told me to stop"
@Max-ep5ir
@Max-ep5ir Жыл бұрын
@@enderfawx3063 He went from being a purposeless pawn of the empire to finding freedom and purpose in being the WoL's mirror image. Ironically, Stormblood was about more than the liberation of states, but I guess the community just refused to see it.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
@@Max-ep5ir That would be cool if the WoL was a character beyond Hydaelyn's Chosen Warrior to beat up big bad guys. But for gameplay reasons our WoLs are intentionally one-note as we go through the story. So the mirror opposite is going to be just as predictable and sort of characterless. It doesn't make for a very interesting character is what I'm trying to get at. He ends up being a purposeless pawn of his own instincts and I kinda find that just as boring as being a purposeless pawn of the empire.
@Fismajster101
@Fismajster101 Жыл бұрын
There is a 2 parter for the same tier list that I really enjoyed, Its shorter than this but hilarious also.
@sirf4ce
@sirf4ce Жыл бұрын
The music, the memes, the Soken, the LAHEE, the bunny girls...OHHHH the bunny girls! Classic
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
Stormblood is not anywhere near as bad as ARR was. I would rather replay Stormblood than ARR again.
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Жыл бұрын
I find the beginning of stormblood even more painful then ARR because it's right after Heavensward. Ruby sea and swimming was honestly painful and it took me months to get through cause I kept doing something else.
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who rates SB poorly didnt actually play it and just rates the story (like Mike)
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
@@kmeanxneth In which way? Almost everything about SB is/was better than any other expansion.
@kmeanxneth
@kmeanxneth Жыл бұрын
Stormblood did have some good points but is worse then arr was
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
@@kmeanxneth Again, which part of the gameplay was worse?
@WhyUdothis95
@WhyUdothis95 Жыл бұрын
the lack of chat in the video is a let down
@lucasm4790
@lucasm4790 Жыл бұрын
The devs can't let Haurchefant go because they don't have the balls to kill characters anymore, so they'll milk that death to oblivion
@georgesmirnov6600
@georgesmirnov6600 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I really want in 7.0 to have major character's death. The best possible option - one of the Scions. Many of them have their arcs finished, so it would make sense. The decent option - our new Endwalker friend can pay the ultimate price. Either way, the game has to recapture the feeling of stakes in the story.
@maplepainttube8158
@maplepainttube8158 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers (multiple death spoilers) I can’t say I want anyone else to die, and the call backs still affect me because I was genuinely upset at his death… but after a certain point I wonder why we don’t have call backs to Ysale or Minfillia or Papalymo? I guess Minfillia had shadowbringers as a major callback, but the focus was on Thancred being affected by her loss, not the WOL. No one but Lyse mentions Paplymo, and she herself shows up rarely post stormblood. I just wish they got more mention
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, famously stakes-filled Heavensward. Where you save Raubahn and undo like 90% of the consequences of ARR's finale by -waking Nanamo up from slumber because apparently Lolorito was 500 IQ and caught on and just switched the concoctions last moment lmao -having the Elementals of the Black Shroud just conveniently pluck Y'shtola from the lifestream; she's blinded, but it doesn't really amount to much -finding out Thancred was mostly unharmed and just living out his best anarcho-primitivist lifestyle -finding out Papalymo and Yda (Lyse) just escaped lmao and now they're doing their own thing -finding out Urianger did not in fact backstab you, he was just triple-crossing for our ow nsakes -Alisaie gets poisoned but dw some chirurgeons and she'll sleep it off Did I miss anything? I love HW as well, but people be having mad short-term memory in here. :b Same applies to people aggrandizing ShB and saying it had such superior pacing.
@nahuel3433
@nahuel3433 Жыл бұрын
​@@Zakjuh More than half of those are well justified. I still think the Nanamo one is bullshit though. No, scratch that. Lolorito getting off the hook is even more bullshit than that.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@nahuel3433 Maybe they are, but I still find it funny that HW and ShB "enjoyers" are getting on EW's case for not having "enough stakes." When one is an expansion with all the stuff I just mentioned and the other is an expansion with both a Thancred and a Y'shtola death fakeout.
@Mad-Slick
@Mad-Slick Жыл бұрын
The Yotsuyu story was enough to bring SB to a B for me.
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
And the content enough to bring it to S
@cattysplat
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
Stormblood is literally my favourite expansion. Grim dark grounded war story with true evil characters. Ending with the emperor and Eorzea invasion was just perfect. You get this huge culmination of events the whole game's been leading up to. Then you immediately get Isekai'd by Shadowbringers, the massive story whiplash and the war is just being done whilst you play hero in another world. I really don't understand why people hate on SB, if you're all about story continuity like a long story should be.
@MapoTofu24
@MapoTofu24 Жыл бұрын
Shadowbringers and perfect pacing? Well…
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
People's forgetfulness is really funny. I loved Shadowbringers, but its pacing was no better than Endwalker's.
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Жыл бұрын
Preach about to lose his shi over not getting answers is honestly so entertaining LOL
@ChrisMorray
@ChrisMorray Жыл бұрын
Both Shadowbringers and Endwalker have an almost neck-breaking pacing issue at the _9 sequences. Whether it's fish folk wanting a lamp or rabbits trying out lemons, they're random neck-snapping changes of pace when the urgency is beyond comprehension.
@Spika94
@Spika94 Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh Idk about that, I think Shadowbringers had a lot faster pacing than Endwalker. In Endwalker I started to really feel the slow pacing when we had quests like looking at fruits with the Loporrits. When I got to that quest, that was the first time in FFXIV's main story I felt like skipping cutscenes, because that really felt slow and pointless. I didn't skip any cutscenes though, I held off the urge.
@MapoTofu24
@MapoTofu24 Жыл бұрын
@@Spika94 I actually feel the opposite. ShB felt slower to me than EW. The latter had one part which bored me (the Loporitts), whereas the former had Il Mheg, Rak’tika, Kholusia p2, some of the stuff happening in the Crystarium, and the first part of the Tempest.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
I always think the quality of post MSQs is so much better than main expansion MSQs that judging them in the same category is unfair. Especially when many are made by a new team for the next expansion to build the new story. Like Stormblood MSQ is not to many people's taste, but the post MSQ is on Shadowbringers level IMO. ARR is similar, the post MSQ is significantly tighter in design, whilst the main MSQ is almost entirely just worldbuilding with weak/side characters. Even Heavensward MSQ feels like ARR sometimes, lots of returning to town and long walks in massive zones, but the post MSQ is where the drama really ramps up hard in the game for the first time.
@ardentdfender4116
@ardentdfender4116 Жыл бұрын
This is straight up funny as hell.
@countrifried
@countrifried 2 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m a simpleton but everything from the final long sequence of cut scenes in ARR to the end of Endwalker, I thoroughly enjoyed all of the MSQ. I started playing ARR almost 2 months ago and finished Endwalker last week. HW will forever be my favorite. Let’s be real, the music upon entering Ishgard for the first time is something we’ll never forget! Same for ShB is just a tiny nut hair below HW but it has my favorite dungeon (Mt Gulg). Also, Stormblood wasn’t nearly as bad as people made me think it was gonna be.
@nexeus7302
@nexeus7302 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if it wasn't for RR (end game) I wouldn't been playing FFXIV 9 years ago. I actually when I started it, the story at first seemed super dull and uninterested, and I even began to skip until someone told me not to, and to pay attention. I even started anew toon just to see everything from the beginning and holy shit, it made a whole lot difference. I am not saying RR is that good, but end-game RR is mindblowing (if you fancy this kind of story). Ppl do the mistake listen to others by saying "nah mate, it's bad", and then ppl skip like there's no tomorrow. They barely pay attention, even end-game RR which is huge mistake. It has it's moments, and again, if anyone plan to play this game just because of "gameplay", you will disappointed. The selling point of this game is THE STORY (along with so many other things), but the main point is the story. Don't skip it, even it seems at times uninterested - RR that is.
@Sercotani
@Sercotani Жыл бұрын
>toon Hello brother.
@MrTalithan
@MrTalithan Жыл бұрын
What on earth is RR?
@nexeus7302
@nexeus7302 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTalithan RR stands for Realm Reborn, mate.
@MrTalithan
@MrTalithan Жыл бұрын
@@nexeus7302 Ohhh, not used to seeing it without the A in front lol.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
I have a few WoW friends who were like that, they couldn't get into the story because of how bad the first 40 levels of ARR felt, some stopped playing, others skipped the cutscenes for the whole game and say went on to tell me that the story beyond ARR isn't very good either because they never had the setup to care for the scions or hydaelyn or any of the things established in ARR.
@Shellova
@Shellova Жыл бұрын
The song at the end of SB was basically L'internationalle lmao
@s4ds4d
@s4ds4d Жыл бұрын
Heavensward and Shadowbringers are both equally deserving of S tier imo
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
Nah, both were quite a bit worse than SB
@ryantice1186
@ryantice1186 Жыл бұрын
Damn they really going to do "The Measure of His Reach" dirty like that? I honestly loved that it was not sung by professional singers and it was just random staff people.
@kmurphy0620
@kmurphy0620 Жыл бұрын
ARR as it used to be had the entire second half with you re-fighting the primals on hard, and I think Preach even played a trimmed version past that. It's good they put the expansion so low. It was just some obvious padding. Lol, imagine Donald Trump trying to play the game. Good thing an AI (?) is talking instead
@phoenix7289
@phoenix7289 Жыл бұрын
You DIDN'T want to see Emet again?!
@F34RDSoldier805
@F34RDSoldier805 Жыл бұрын
People have a bad habit of only ranking the story and not the actual content. Because the content itself has only gotten better with each expansion. Some people might not like the content we're getting with the most recent patch because they don't want to do another tower or think the relic weapon step is too easy, but everything before this patch in the expansion has been amazing. If you think about each expansion in terms of actual content it would literally go step by step each one getting better and better.
@Reshapable
@Reshapable Жыл бұрын
That's kind of fair and yet also ignores the fact that when not otherwise directed, people rate by what matters most to them. If they're rating based on story in such a scenario then that's completely legit, as apparently the rest didn't matter enough to be at the forefront of their thoughts.
@brodinism
@brodinism Жыл бұрын
Nah dude, Island Sanc is a waste of dev resources, and they need to find a way to make future Criterion dungeons evergreen content
@Reshapable
@Reshapable Жыл бұрын
@@brodinism the game needs to cater to me and only me*
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@brodinism Not everything is for you, and that's fine.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
The game's main attraction is being mostly story-based. So of course people will rate the story and not the gameplay. Not to mention that people started at different times. You're never going to get the authentic ARR, HW, StB, or ShB experience cause the gameplay has been changed. (i.e. Sprint Meter, Newer Jobs, Job revamps, Melee combos being interrupted by ranged filler, etc.)
@daveo2992
@daveo2992 4 ай бұрын
what is a cut scene? you mean a skip scene?
@kelvinhernandez966
@kelvinhernandez966 Жыл бұрын
I personally really liked the storytelling in Stormblood. I feel like a solid B tier for Stormblood would be on my list. Everything else i agree with Preach on. I was about a minute into the video when i typed this fyi.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
If you count the patch stuff, definitely. Yotsuyu's stuff was really good, as were the post-4.3 buildup patches to ShB. And did people forget we literally met Emet-Selch in 4.4? Or met Gaius again? And had The Burn? Ghimlyt dark? That cool-ass solo-instance where you fight as Hien trying to stall for time against Zenos while your character/WoL is making their way there, accompanied by occasional text mentioning how far away the WoL is? Shit was cash.
@kelvinhernandez966
@kelvinhernandez966 Жыл бұрын
@Commander Javik yea the patch stuff was great! I loved it! I was sooo hyped for the lead ups and all things considered it was good stuff. But my unpopular opinion was that i actually enjoyed regular Stormblood too. Yea i can see how the story may drag on but i legit met and hated yotsuyu soo much. They did a great job at making a villian u can instantly hate, the supporting cast of Hien and Gosetsu was freakin awesome, i especially love the way of the samurai lesson gosetsu gives you in the Azem Stepp. And Yugiri's backstory and growth into a strong ninja for her people was great character development that i didn't know i wanted. Yea maybe Lyse could be seen as the more underwhelming part of the story but the rest of the cast really had great screen time and development. Can't hate on Stormblood for one whatever character.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh I wish they did more with Gigachad Gaius, he is cool and deserves more story time especially with the collapse of the empire.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@enderfawx3063 Hear hear! I really wanna see more Gaius stuff. He's not my favorite character, but he's up there. Baller dude. If any gripe, I feel like Cid, Nero and Gaius kinda got stiffed so far.
@Korashy9
@Korashy9 Жыл бұрын
There is a huge difference between Stormblood MSQ and post MSQ. Post MSQ was incredible, while Stormblood itself, not so much.
@jegudielyusha2866
@jegudielyusha2866 Жыл бұрын
One would think that Trump would place endwalker on a higher tier because that expansion was when PvP finally got good. Though not quite 6.0, but still close enough
@lightknightgames
@lightknightgames 10 ай бұрын
I came in at the start of stormblood, and I think it was PRIME. I didn't play HW endgame, but I know that SB was a step up in overall quality of content pre-endgame. And tbh, I'm kinda stuck on the little part where we talk to Allisae with the gobbo. That was the best emotional scene IMO, I think she still owes us a tart. All-in-all, I think SB is equal to HW.
@Knives7777
@Knives7777 Жыл бұрын
i agree with ai trump on endwalker
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
Endwalker is S-tier, and fuck anyone for suggesting otherwise. Fight me.
@Stickarms99
@Stickarms99 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I agree with Joe on Heavensward lmao
@Spika94
@Spika94 Жыл бұрын
F**K! Man! Shadowbringers and Endwalker was so good, holy sh*t! And I love Emet so much. I am glad to have played this game in English, because honestly, as a guy, I would be gay for Emet's voice. He's so f*cking cool.
@markup6394
@markup6394 Жыл бұрын
9:26 --- I mean, he's right, if you ask me... Zenos returning was lame af in the first place, even if he got proper developing time later and became a proper villian and anti-thesis to our WoL. Still... I've had my fill of him after Stormblood... Sure, Elidibus using his body was an interesting part but then his soul kept hanging around... Nah, me not like. 11:03 --- Me neither. Just because Emet was a great (written) villian doesnt make him a good man with whom I would want to hang out with... Though I admit it was interesting to see how he was prior to the Sundering.
@hirokjyotideka5571
@hirokjyotideka5571 Жыл бұрын
Trump saw right through the hype of Endwalker and was right to call it for C or a low B. It just couldn't match up to HW much less ShB MSQs.
@JockenN
@JockenN Жыл бұрын
Man I think I have to agree with Trump at 7:04. Zenos was boring and I think him and Fandaniel are two of the worst characters ever put in the entire Final Fantasy franchise.
@minuette1752
@minuette1752 Жыл бұрын
Stormblood was B tier damnit.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
EW and ShB are equal for different reasons. Stormblood deserves to be higher, if you add in the patches.
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
I would have given Stormblood an B, or even an A, if they just skipped Ala Mhigo, killed Lyse off, and didn't have the weird anthem at the end. The good parts were really good, but the bad parts were really bad...
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 Жыл бұрын
Doma: A tier Ala Mhigo: D tier Had they just given the Ala Mhigo story to Raubahn it would have been much better. Lyse is always the Lyst interesting person in the room.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@bplup6419 Haha. I don't hate Lyse but I'm kinda lukewarm on her. But you gotta admit Azim Steppe was pretty good and the post-patches were top-tier.
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh Azim Steppe falls under the Doma umbrella. I love Doma, but it's tied to the anchor that is the awful Ala Mhigo zones/story. I loved Lyse when she was the short tempered not too bright puncher. Some senile old coot put her charge of a resistance (which immediately imploded), made her qualified to run a damned country (which she immediately almost lost to a primal she invited it). Lyse goes in the dumpster. I'd literally trust Tataru to be in charge of anything before her.
@keelhaulsthingsthatdontmat3877
@keelhaulsthingsthatdontmat3877 Жыл бұрын
The irony of Trump being upset about Zenos but not complaining about Rahn'jit. lol
@Lyn685
@Lyn685 Жыл бұрын
Trump doesn't enjoy Zenos? I don't believe it for one second
@VDA19
@VDA19 Жыл бұрын
Heavensward above Endwalker? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
@Mir_Teiwaz
@Mir_Teiwaz Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd agree with even a fake trump on anything, but here we are. Zenos should have stayed dead at the end of 4.0.
@batboy555
@batboy555 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@SolidCheshire
@SolidCheshire Жыл бұрын
ngl i agree with this list. also Biden is based af here
@Veechii
@Veechii Жыл бұрын
My gripe with these sort of discussions about the expansions is that they put a LOT of emphasis on the story, and while the story is great, it doesn't make or break an expansion. Whenever you hear discussions about Stormblood they always talk about the story and how that alone makes it the worse expansion, but completely disregard the fact that it had the BEST and highest QUALITY content of any expansion so far. Everyone i know loves the Ivalice raids, the omega raids are the peak of raiding so far (esp alphascape) and Eureka is still THE BEST explorable zone content that people STILL frequent because of the rewards, sellable items and the raid. Lastly, it was the BEST expansion for class design, it perfected what they were going for in ARR and yes, balance might've been a tad worse than expected it wasn't so bad you couldn't clear a raid tier, hell i played samurai when it was considered complete grief to play it in savage because it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I do imagine that a majority of players playing right now came into the game during the 6.3 - WoW exodus and only know ARR - SB content as MSQ only because a lot of the discussion when ranking expacs is ALWAYS story. I started playing very late HW going into SB so i didn't have much time to enjoy the at level HW content but i will always take that into consideration when i personally rank the expansions, a lot of others just look at story. I'm also a long time WoW player and i like the equate the expansions between the two and what the provided, and i think Shadowbringers is the Legion of ffxiv, for good and bad reasons. Shadowbringers had decent content, probably just below Stormblood in that respect but it also has set the foundation of what the game moving towards, and if you know Legion you probably know where im going with this. Legion was the building block for both BFA and Shadowlands, and i feel that Shadowbringers is the building block for at least EW for now. There are a lot of problems with Endwalker, while the story is still being told phenomaly, a lot of the MMO aspects of the game are being phased out. No explorable zone, very short lived content (variant dungeons and spreadsheet sim, i mean island sanctuary) that are very one and done. I'm quite doomer about the game atm and this patch just made it worst tbh, was very excited to see what multiplayer content the new relic would make us do but for it to be literally the same step as the first.... euch.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
The ivalice raids were pretty boring and so was eureka tbh. I only did them for glam and never touched them ever again. Demi-osma is a cool mount but it is not worth doing Baldesion Arsenal for. Omega Savage raids were great but Kefka shouldn't have been a door boss, and all of the first 2 raids of each tier were painfully easy and my static usually cleared them in less than an hour. Can't speak to class design because I started towards the last patch of ShB.
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
@@enderfawx3063 Judging SB without ever having played it, the good old classic lol
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
@@niklasstahl98 I'm sorry I wasn't interested in the game at the same time you were, but I can still go back and do the content as it is and give my thoughts on how it is. That's still having played it.
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
It's all fairly subjective in the end, isn't it? Personally I don't much care about MMO aspects being scaled back because I was never interested in the game primarily as an MMO, I enjoy it *despite* it being an MMO, as I have always played and will always play primarily for the story. Less grind for the new relics seems just fine to me, because Bozja was mindlessly boring for the most part (the map design especially, both Bozja and Zadnor are just plain bland-looking) and grinding what essentially amounts to slightly bigger FATEs isn't at all my idea of fun, especially not when you need to do 180 of them for one relic step. That's just incredibly tedious busywork, and I have enough of that at work. As such, Endwalker is clearly the best expansion yet and I couldn't be more excited for 7.0. Different playstyles I guess.
@wolfspledge1762
@wolfspledge1762 Жыл бұрын
Too many focus on the MSQ alone when discussing an expansion. The Stormblood era was the best era in the game tbh.
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Жыл бұрын
Endwalkers weakness is when it tried doing Shadowbringers again but I loved the rest. I really feel like every expansion has extreme highs and lows. Lmao 😂😂😂 Preach did you forget how you were losing your mind and flipping desk all throughout Shadowbringers.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's why I love ShB and EW equally. Both had bad pacing moments but good payoffs in the end. And both had very high highs and low lows. The trolley may be a meme, but it isn't good gameplay, it isn't good pacing. Elpis + Mothercrystal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amh Araeng/Kholusia pt2 + Crown of the Immaculate any day. Any, any day. Meanwhile, Amaurot + Dying Gasp >> The Dead Ends + The Final Day Emet was a far better villain than Hermes, but Hermes/Amon had a few good moments, especially in the Aitascope. The Meteia I didn't even consider villains because they didn't even choose to do what they did the way a normal person would, they were simply overwhelmed by dynamis and reshaped by it. They were much more the embodiment of a cosmic force than they were a big bad mustache-twirling villain. So yeah, Emet is better, but did we really need another Emet, anyway? What would it have done for us if the cause of the Final Days was someone with irredeemable acts but understandable motives? We had Zenos, who was an unabashed bad guy who reveled in it, we had Emet-Selch who was bad but had motivations we could find ourselves in and we had Hermes who was heavily misguided and Meteion who was basically co-opted by dynamis. I love Emet, but not every villain needs to be Emet.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
There was never really a dull moment for me with ShB, I enjoyed the whole thing, I don't think there's any moments that were not fun or engaging. There were no MSQ ShB characters I found disappointing either. I can't say the same for EW though. Some of the content before the Final Days was a bit of a slog to get through, and was kinda disappointed with the end bosses; Meteion, Hermes, and Zenos. Elpis story was also really good but I wish it had been a little shorter, I don't think they needed to hammer home the idea that Hermes loves all creation like 20 times just to have him threaten all creation cause he doesn't like his job.
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
@@enderfawx3063 Your opinion is just that of course but I could not disagree more. There were plenty of dull moments and slogs in ShB. It speaks to how good it is overall that those kinda disappear in hindsight, but both Amh Araeng 2 and Kholusia 2 arcs were real low points for me for the most part. It all had this typical "get to new part of map (or new map in the case of the Tempest), do menial uninteresting chores for an hour or two before getting to the good part" spiel going, a LOT. Not saying Endwalker didn't, because it absolutely did, but this was a thing well before Endwalker. ShB did it, SB did it, even Heavensward did it. The lows were about the same in both ShB and EW, but zones like Elpis, by their mere implication, blew me away a LOT more than any equivalent in ShB (well, the Amaurot part of the Tempest was pretty fucking amazing, but still).
@uberpinkwarrior
@uberpinkwarrior Жыл бұрын
Imo, ARR was fine and got better as it went. HW had okay class design, a fantastic story, and the worst endgame in FFXIV history, with only the final tier of savage being good. SB was a good story and a mediocre story combined, but the classes were fun jank messes with lots of individuality, and the best savage to date. My favorite period to play. ShB had the best story easy, but... ngl i hated the job changes to tanks and especially healers. Also the hidden heal potency nerf (by adding vit on accessories you had around 35% more health but heals stayed the same potency, meaning instead of healing 60% you healed around 35%). The savage was... Fine? Better than HW's first 2 tiers. EW has a great story, better gameplay than ShB, and the healing is in a dumb place where you dont need healers in most content. The savage is garbage, and... yeah EW is a super mixed bag to me. It made me not want to heal despite enjoying healing in every other mmo. So... Good job? Also made me not wanna raid.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
ARR is good the first time you do it, but having done it on multiple characters I think I would skip it if the option to do so was free. Compared to the other expansions it is very slow to get into. All of the dungeons and trials have like 20 quests of lead-up to them, it is very draining.
@avidcollector869
@avidcollector869 Жыл бұрын
SKILL ISSUE!
@revan8795
@revan8795 Жыл бұрын
Babies say reborn was bad because they never played the actual launch of the game. They literally released and forgot the game.
@one909
@one909 Жыл бұрын
IMO, Stormblood Trials and Dungeon, is the best compare to the other Expansion 4 Lords, MSQ Trials blew my mind of how fun and enjoyable it is to watch with every transition to 2nd phase. The Dungeons also very refreshing and have beautiful Environment, most of Dungeon have 3 parts different looking environment
@scotaloo77g73
@scotaloo77g73 Жыл бұрын
Stormblood is an S tier expansion just because of the content.
@johnnyw9922
@johnnyw9922 Жыл бұрын
arr still has some of the best zones in the game imo
@KeatonKing
@KeatonKing Жыл бұрын
Stormblood was better than Heavensward Atleast Stormblood didn’t drag your ass back to Ul’dah every other quest just to retcon ARR’s epic ending
@Reshapable
@Reshapable Жыл бұрын
The confederacy
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 Жыл бұрын
ARR has the best music imo.
@adamblyth9972
@adamblyth9972 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe I'm agreeing with Donald Trump about endwalker. As soon as I realised Zenos was back I nearly rage quit on the spot. He didn't get any better in Endwalker. He is still more insufferable than the Jailer.
@Colaschnittchen
@Colaschnittchen Жыл бұрын
Switch Stormblood with a realm reborn and put Endwalker in low S Tier and i agree with the list
@robertcross9047
@robertcross9047 Жыл бұрын
mad because bad
@RaddyC
@RaddyC Жыл бұрын
Stormblood's MSQ was pretty weak, but everything else, especially job design, was better than ever before or since. And SB has the best post MSQ of any expac. EW is B tier at best. The story hit all the right emotional beats but there were terrible pacing issues, Hermes, Meteion, and Dynamis were obvious asspulls and not particularly compelling, and combat in EW is an absolute snoozefest. Nothing more fun than pressing 1-2-3 for a minute and a half then facerolling your keyboard.
@FatalFatalisFtFts
@FatalFatalisFtFts Жыл бұрын
I don't know if all the post MSQ was that great, but the 4.1 MSQ was the best X.1 MSQ in the game. With the conclusion of Ala Mhigo, Raubahn and Nanamo.
@RaysofLight98
@RaysofLight98 Жыл бұрын
I liked Zenos a little more because he clearly had disdain for Lyse’s self importance. He clearly checked out because he knew the singalong was coming.
@MalixFarwin
@MalixFarwin Жыл бұрын
i agree with trump, endwalker should of been B at best
@violetbliss4399
@violetbliss4399 Жыл бұрын
I liked the EW callback thing BUT they should have skipped the 4th wall part. I get their fear but I think it was actually not needed going into detail there - it took away from the urgency.
@batboy555
@batboy555 Жыл бұрын
Depressed emo Twitter bird lol.
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
I don't think Endwalker was bad, but I also feel like it could have been a lot more. It feels like the Cataclysm of FF14, basically just sticking with what worked in Shadowbringers because it's safe, rather than really changing the game. I would have put it in B at best.
@Mochachocakon
@Mochachocakon Жыл бұрын
A Scion definitely should have perished at Garlemald and the pacing was definitely wack. But yeah, it wasn't bad.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
@@Mochachocakon I don't get people's fixation with needing a Scion to die. What Scion should have died, anyway? If there's any point in the past three expansions that someone should've died, it should've been Thancred after his fight with Ran'jit, but we sure don't hear many people about that nowadays. 😄
@Mochachocakon
@Mochachocakon Жыл бұрын
@Zakjuh It defeated the buildup for that entire scene. Yeah, it was badass that our character managed to overcome the challenge, but Endwalker didn't have the weight that the trailer and name of the expansion entailed.
@Mochachocakon
@Mochachocakon Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh As for Ran'jit, it probably would have pissed people off if he died when the WoL was far more qualified to hold him off.
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh The value or a character death is that it makes the supposedly dangerous situations the characters are engaged in feel more impactful. If they hypothetically made it clear they would never have another character die, then it would be a lot more difficult to be invested in a character involved in a supposed crisis actually being in any danger. And if there's no danger, what's the point in an adventure?
@ParticleBomb
@ParticleBomb Жыл бұрын
I'm actually a big supporter of Stormblood. I loved Lyse and hated Zenos. Needed more of one and not the other. I'd personally place Endwalker in S and ShB in A.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
Damn, EW in S and ShB in A, huh? I'm a pretty big EW fan and would put it in S, but I would also put ShB in S because I think they really work well together and I would be hard pressed to rank one over the other. Not a big Lyse fan, but I mellowed out on her, I don't mind her. I didn't care for Stormblood Zenos and was okay with Endwalker Zenos (I feel like the way they wrote him floundering for a lot of it was deliberate, to really hammer home the point that there was so little to his life, that he was devoid of motivation), which fit him. I do absolutely hope he doesn't return, though.
@ParticleBomb
@ParticleBomb Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh The whole "dark good, light bad" just didn't do it for me, and while the MSQ was great I just wasn't that captivated by Norvrandt (though the Crystarium is the best hub area in the entire game, imo, especially during the day). Eden raids were okay but they did CoD dirty by not giving her her own theme. And speaking of raid music, only Force Your Way, E8 and E11 had great tracks, everything else was mid. I found nothing else wrong with the raids or even the game itself, which is why I still rate ShB so high. And let's face it, they'll bring Zenos back somehow.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
@@ParticleBomb They already did by bringing his reaper avatar back
@nahuel3433
@nahuel3433 Жыл бұрын
​@@ParticleBomb Nah. Zenos is deader than dead. At most he'd get nods like Ilberd did, another character deader than dead. Or some other bullshit like the Ruby Weapon clone of Nael. Which at the end of the day isn't ACTUALLY Nael/Zenos. But he is super dead.
@TheWickedWizardOfOz1
@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 Жыл бұрын
This video turned me into a Trump supporter
@beeslikesteve
@beeslikesteve Жыл бұрын
Hard disagree with preach take that main characters should have died in endwalker
@gabryalservus157
@gabryalservus157 Жыл бұрын
same, I was okay with thancred dying as I felt his arc was done with shb but Im glad he isnt. Estinien dying for real would hurt as he's my favourite character and I wished we had more of him between SB -Shb. Would be annoyed at y'shtola dying as I would just roll my eyes and think "again, really" (kinda did anyways) and I felt her story is not finished. Any of the Twins dropping would suck the joy out the other, and both would be too much. So we are left with G'raha and Urianger. G'raha going would just be shit considering hes only just joined us and urianger going is the one that probably would be quite good choice; with him finally moving on from Mb and potentially feeling he needs to repay his shadiness with an ultimate sacrifice it would probably make the scene against the endsinger not as cool. That last bit applies to everyone else as well. I do think however that someone should be axed for 7.0, kinda feeling too invincible as a group in patch content.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
If any Scion should've died, it's Thancred in Shadowbringers. Shadowbringers enjoyers will bitch about Endwalker having no stakes then ignore the fact that we basically got two death fakeouts in a row from Y'shtola and Thancred in Shadowbringers while Endwalker at least didn't pretend that the Scions were ever really dead.
@gabryalservus157
@gabryalservus157 Жыл бұрын
@@Zakjuh I agree with that as well, I was contented at that duty thinking he died. Again I'm glad he isn't but at the same time it does show the writer's reluctance to kill any of them.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
They would just bring them back somehow in the follow-up patch/expansion
@marks2807
@marks2807 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Endwalker is with advertising and interviews they built up Endwalker so much that it could never live up to the amount of Hype it had. I would say it is A tier. It was not a bad expansion at all.
@Osmani4you
@Osmani4you Жыл бұрын
I disagree I give it an S tier just for 2 ultimates
@marks2807
@marks2807 Жыл бұрын
@@Osmani4you That is why I gave it A the dungeon, and raid design was top notch, but the story had so many bland moments, and things that should have been better, and they hyped it up to be such an amazing story especially after Shadow Bringers. Other than the burger scene I never find myself watching Endwalker reactions, but from time-to-time watch several Shadow Bringers reactions.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
I give it an S-tier because it closed the book on the story since ARR in all the ways I wanted and then gave me some bonus neat stuff as well. That or EW is an A but then I also have to move ShB to A because it does some of the same stuff and my memory doesn't suck so I can actually still remember the things it did instead of buying into some idyllic primal version of Shadowbringers.
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
Endwalker had the "inferior presentation" issue where ShB's memorable moments were so good in comparison that Endwalker's memorable moments feel like they're lacking. Kinda like when you have a decent presentation for a project but the kid who went before you blew it out of the park so yours looks like shit in comparison.
@nahuel3433
@nahuel3433 Жыл бұрын
It exeded my hype. IDK what people were expecting since it's pretty much perfect and its weaknesses are the same if not less severe than those of ShB. Especially since the story of the post patches building up to EW were kinda mid.
@jackjohnson8305
@jackjohnson8305 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on Whoshifant, literally a useless side character died and they milked his death for 10 years now, he was irrelevant to the plot why does this community like him so much i don't understand.
@Reshapable
@Reshapable Жыл бұрын
That's kind of an equally shit take. He's the only reason we had somewhere to go after the end of ARR. He was a good guy. Saw his death coming from 2 continents away of course and I was hardly THAT attached to him. He's overglorified to be sure but their use of his memory has been both tasteful and effective since, such that despite not caring much when he died, I've come to like him quite a bit long after the fact. Your objection is more than a bit overblown.
@furbyoats1
@furbyoats1 Жыл бұрын
Bringing Emet back takes away the impact of the 5.0 ending
@nahuel3433
@nahuel3433 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
Not at all. On the contrary, in fact.
@TheTorridestCheese
@TheTorridestCheese Жыл бұрын
To me, FFXIV is both overrated and underrated at some points. ARR isn't nearly that bad. I enjoyed playing through it. On the other hand, I don't think Heavensward/Shadowbringers were THAT great. They were good, sure, but best storytelling in the RPG genre? I don't think I would even put it in the top 10 of Final Fantasy games.
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
Well, so do opinions diverge, I guess. It firmly replaced FFX as my all-time #1 on that list.
@zordiarkdarkeater8625
@zordiarkdarkeater8625 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Heavensward is Overrated. there were some cool moments but thats it. oh and the 1st big zone was really nice and chilling. And the dead of one of the side characters ( you all know who im talking about ) is just Overblown he barely did anything to get players attached to him its just a meme lol. Enjoyed Storm blood waaay more. even tough Stormblood starts VERY weak but it gets really good after the 1st Half.
@Zakjuh
@Zakjuh Жыл бұрын
Same tbh. I didn't think base HW was that great. It was 3.3 that turned the hype up and 3.4 that added the intrigue with Ardbert and co.
@nickh5021
@nickh5021 Жыл бұрын
I agree. In fact, I like all Stormblood way more than Heavensward. Heavensward has some of the worst zones in a video game.
@Lezerald
@Lezerald Жыл бұрын
He saved you storywise from the crystal braves and arranged to get you into Ishgard as a refugee. Also the sacrifice. Could have perhaps been built up better, but saying his impact is overblown does not do the character justice imo.
@merlinrecon7528
@merlinrecon7528 Жыл бұрын
Ok, i agree he seems a bit too much with all the flashbacks that involves him, but saying he barely did anything is just false. He’s the only reason you were even able to find cid’s ship, he was the reason you were able to seek refuge in ishgard because ishgard doesn’t allow any outsider to simply live in its wall. And he did all of that without asking for anything back which is honestly something that the WoL never experienced, hell even the scion expect something back from the WoL and yet hacherfount was there for you free of charge
@cyanmage1
@cyanmage1 Жыл бұрын
I think people tend to forget how upset the community was during Heavensward it was nothing but this game is dying, quality has gone down, we are getting less stuff, SE can't balance jobs the list goes on and on Now its considered one of best parts of the game but when it was current holy crap people loved to bitch about everything in it
@niklasstahl98
@niklasstahl98 Жыл бұрын
Stormblood weakest expansion? Y'all are smoking, it had by far the best content, endgame and class design, who cares about story lmao (even that was really good in the patches though)
@ItsRinaldo
@ItsRinaldo Жыл бұрын
They should have left Emet in Shadowbringers. Bringing him back just makes it seem like SE also forgot what genocidal fascist psychopath Hades is like the community does. But, if that's the price we pay for Hythlodeus I guess there's no choice then.
@nahuel3433
@nahuel3433 Жыл бұрын
I would've agreed if he didn't just appear for 5 minutes and died again. Back in elpis he wasn't all you just described. He was a normal dude. He only comes back in Ultima Thule after his crimes and straight up tells you that he'd do it again but he now respects you enough to stay dead.
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, I really hate how people use words like "fascist" without understanding what they mean. Fascism by definition requires a nationalist ideology. By definition, therefore, he absolutely cannot be fascist. That said, in case you hadn't noticed, no character in the game is that comically black and white. Not Emet, not Venat, nor any other. They're all varying shades of grey, and I do not believe anyone forgets this, ever (with the noted exception of you, maybe). That said, they didn't really "bring him back" except for that tiny part at the very end, which made perfect sense and is a great end point for his character arc. The rest of his appearance in the game isn't "bringing him back", it's expanding on his backstory, which is perfectly acceptable.
@ItsRinaldo
@ItsRinaldo Жыл бұрын
@@rogthepirate4593 National identity? Like the one Garlemald has for itself that Emet was wistful for that he created? Or Allag has for itself which he also created? Or an identity of Amaroutan with which he views as the only form of life worthy of existence, ignoring all the life that has came after including sapiants like dragons? Emet doesn't even have the excuse of saying they are sundered and "not really alive" as dragons are intelligent life that came to Etheirys as refugees and were never sundered. Speaking of dragons, remember that time Ascians gave technology to Allag to enslave the Meracydian dragons in an eternal torture device so they could continually summon Bahamut forever? Really morally grey action, that. If you want to say nobody forgets stuff except me, maybe remember the actual examples of stuff you say doesn't exist that appear multiple times in game, in giant prominence.
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsRinaldo "Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." Just because some of these points may apply to some of his views or map to the properties of some of the empires he represented or created, that doesn't mean all of them apply (they do not). Therefore, no, it's still not fascist. Morally grey, sure. Never disputed that. Morally black as tar even, in some instances. But not fascist. I fucking hate this trend to label anything that someone doesn't like as "fascism", because fascism is a very, VERY specific ideology that requires a certain sociological, economical and historical context. And while there are instances of fictional fascism that do fit that definition, there are also many instances of supposed fictional fascism that do not, even though many people would make the mistake regardless. I'm german. We learn what is and isn't fascism in school in great, maybe even excrutiating detail. It's a horrific ideology that should never blight the face of this planet again, but it can only stay this cautionary tale if the term isn't used willy-nilly for absofuckinglutely everything, because if everything is fascist, nothing is. Inflationary usage of very narrowly defined terms is incredibly dangerous. No, Emet-Selch is not fascist. He shares some traits with the ideology, sure, but that doesn't make him fascist. So stop inflationary use of terms you do not fully understand.
@ItsRinaldo
@ItsRinaldo Жыл бұрын
@@rogthepirate4593 What the hell do you think Garlemald is???
@Zetasphere
@Zetasphere Жыл бұрын
As a whole, the non-story moments of the game have been mid since the end of Stormblood. SB was the best expansion when taken as a whole and the gameplay and content have taken a complete nosedive since.
@dickthebirthdayboy2132
@dickthebirthdayboy2132 Жыл бұрын
Shadowbringers to this day is the most overrated expansion
@enderfawx3063
@enderfawx3063 Жыл бұрын
It was a great story. Nothing overrated about it. Gameplay was great, MSQ was great, Zones were great, Music was top tier, the bosses were fun and memorable, Bozja was a step up from Eureka, Eden was great, Nier Raids gave us the best piece in the game, I don't see much to dislike about it.
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