Chevy 1500 2.7L TurboMAX 4 Cylinder (L3B) Engine *Heavy Mechanic Review* | ACTUALLY GOOD!?

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The Getty Adventures

The Getty Adventures

Күн бұрын

I review the Chevy/GMC 1500 2.7L Inline-4 cylinder TURBO MAX L3B Engine as a Heavy Duty Mechanic. This 4 cylinder turbo charged engine produced 310 hp and 430lb-ft of torque. I discuss updated Warranty from GM, potential Cracking Engine Block, engine specs and potential issues as a mechanic.
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Well I'm very excited to get my hands back on this very interesting 2.7L turbomax inline 4 cylinder engine because it seems like alot of owners and buyers are having real success with this power plant of an engine.
I wanted to discuss 5 main things with this engine back in the shop. firstly however I go over some of the awesome new technology stuffed into this engine.
the first point I wanted to discuss is the updated warranty. GM has updated the standard powertrain warranty to 5 years/ 100,000 miles which is massive and I really like to see this. gives me good faith that GM is seeing these engine not having any major issues and they still feel like they can make money from them while extending the warranty.
Next is the strength of the engine. this little engine is truly built to be in a pick up truck with fully forged internals, iron liners, off-set cylinder, billet steel camshafts and a very stiff and strong crankshaft. GM truly gave this engine some good strength.
number 3 is cracking engine blocks. this was a bit of a panic for the internet but as it turns out there were only 12 engines that have has this issue to date. only a small handful. GM replace the full engine, no questions asked.
4th is the cylinder deactivation or Active Fuel management. and I wanted to highlight that this Turbotax engine goes about shutting down cylinders completely different then the V8's like the 5.3L and 6.2L engine that are having lifter failures with their collapsable lifters.
this engine uses its special cam shafts to shut down cylinders so we should not see as much valve train issues as the larger V8 engines.
lastly is just how much work GM had to do to balance this mighty 4 cylinder engine. with all the special tech and massive large stroke this engine should be very unbalanced but its not. In fact his engine in my opinion is very well balanced at all speeds.
lastly I discuss my unhappiness with GM continuing to not go with a dual injection fuel system with port injection and direct injection to solve any carbon build up issues.
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Engine Specs
03:03 - Warranty Extended (100,000 Miles)
04:05 - Engine Strength
06:08 - Cracking Engine Blocks
07:37 - AFM Cylinder Deactivation
10:23 - Engine Balancing
11:33 - Direct Injection Problems
12:29 - Conclusion

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@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 6 күн бұрын
If they had build a straight six version of this engine, they would have build the greatest offroad engine ever.
@Tiovergudo
@Tiovergudo 6 күн бұрын
The 3.0 duramax is really good
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 6 күн бұрын
@@Tiovergudo I guess is with the straight six they would't have needed all that extra counterbalance since inline sixes are naturally balanced.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
From what I read. There was supposed to be an inline 6 engine and an inline 4. Turns out they only built the 4 cylinder.
@mitchharris97
@mitchharris97 6 күн бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures can you imagine the power numbers if it scaled like this engine as far as power per cylinder when I did the math it was like 640 tq and 460hp. Don’t know that it would scale like that but it would be a great motor
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick 6 күн бұрын
@mitchharris97 It does scale like that. Given the displacement it would be a 4.1 liter I-6 and would easily best the 3.0 Ram Hurricane just based on displacement. It would need to change the turbo though as I dont think the dual volute turbo would work on a 6, they would prolly have to go twin turbo but i could be wrong.
@ML-lg4ky
@ML-lg4ky 6 күн бұрын
My company has several in our service fleet with well over 200k on them already. Been great.
@moyacosta6223
@moyacosta6223 5 күн бұрын
Do vehicles in your fleet regulary hit 200k or are these just that robust?
@ericj810
@ericj810 4 күн бұрын
​@moyacosta6223 these are robust. I've seen it for myself. Even full time towing 7400lbs behind it.
@ML-lg4ky
@ML-lg4ky 4 күн бұрын
@@moyacosta6223 ford V8’s have lasted that long. Ecoboost not so much
@slocavky
@slocavky 6 күн бұрын
That engine is super surprising. My brother in law has one. I have a 2021 3.0 Duramax and man his feels so much like the diesel its unreal. Super impressive.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Both those engine do have a similar feel. But I do love that 3L duramax
@edhcb9359
@edhcb9359 5 күн бұрын
Until it comes time to actually use it as a truck.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 5 күн бұрын
​@@TheGettyAdventuresthe baby Duramax is another trash motor with designed obsolescence built in.
@Rich-xq3uv
@Rich-xq3uv 5 күн бұрын
@@edhcb9359 You don't use 1/2 tons to do truck stuff....that's for 3/4 tons and 1 ton duelleys.
@edhcb9359
@edhcb9359 5 күн бұрын
@@Rich-xq3uv You might not, but most people can and do.
@JoshDurston
@JoshDurston 7 күн бұрын
As a 2.7 ecoboost owner, I do admire the simplicity of 4 cylinders and 1 turbo if it gets the job done.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
The single turbo does certainly make things a little simpler.
@TheHighway-mf3sl
@TheHighway-mf3sl 6 күн бұрын
It doesn’t…
@mitchharris97
@mitchharris97 6 күн бұрын
@@TheHighway-mf3sl how does it not please share able to tow 9500 lbs 2200 lbs payload and 24 mpg
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick 6 күн бұрын
Respect to the Nano 2.7. Also Respect to GM for making this the base engine while Ford has the anemic 3.3 n/a. Ford targeted the 5.3 with the 2.7 and the 6.2 with the 3.5 and IMHO Ford came out on top. GM doing their wierd old GM type thing dumped all the development money into their base engine which ironically completes well against Fords mainstream offerings.
@VortexArcade
@VortexArcade 7 күн бұрын
I bought the Turbo Max in a Colorado, despite being a little bit reluctant to buy turbo 4 vs a V6. I'm only a year in, but the power of this thing has won me over. It makes effortless torque, and is a blast in a mid size truck. It truly feels like a Diesel.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I was thinking these engines in a light midsize truck probably feel lightning fast
@jamesgullo8240
@jamesgullo8240 6 күн бұрын
@VortexArcade Don't get me wrong, I wish you well with your truck. But my neighbor has 370,000 on his 5.3 L Chevy pickup.
@VortexArcade
@VortexArcade 6 күн бұрын
@@jamesgullo8240 I just want 150k out of it. I don't want to drive something for 20 years. If I can pay it off, drive it for another five and sell it for a few grand I'll be happy. First turbocharged vehicle I've owned, I always lean toward simple. I sat in the Frontier and Colorado back to back, everything about the Frontier feels like it's 10 years old -not just the engine!
@ram89572
@ram89572 5 күн бұрын
​@@jamesgullo8240 Which 5.3 is the question. Because that is pure luck on AFM/DFM engines. Pretty that crap yes they were solid engines
@ericj810
@ericj810 4 күн бұрын
I have the 22 refresh silverado with the HO version. For a full size truck it does as well as the 350 did. I have friends who are over 150k on milage and tow heavy alot with theirs and no issues with trans or the engine. The way the oil pump is setup i been hearing carbon is not been a issue with these like people think on higher milage. The 8 speed does well to.
@Chevytech1977
@Chevytech1977 7 күн бұрын
I know at the dealer, we haven't seen too many major issues with these. They are normally noisy though
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
Build a gas engine to run like a diesel, and it’s gonna sound like a diesel.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 5 күн бұрын
It is a ticky engine. To me it sounds like an older Honda VTEC. Maybe it has to do with the overhead cams.
@Heatherder
@Heatherder 5 күн бұрын
@@danielbonner8309 I have a 13 year old GM 2.0T DOHC I4 engine (LHU). It sounds like it ticking and rattling like crazy at idle, and it has for the last 150,000 miles. It makes almost no glitter and is powerful, great engine! It's just the nature of DI engines with aluminum blocks.
@jefftrimm7806
@jefftrimm7806 6 күн бұрын
Tip of the hat to GM for a stout torquey motor that has been reliable. I didn’t realize it’s been out for 7 years now.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Crazy how fast it’s been. Granted the 7th year will be with the 2025 models
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 6 күн бұрын
I have had my 2.7 Turbomax for 2 years. No problems at all and I love the power curve in this engine. It pulls 10,000 lb. Trailer with no problem.
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
Watch the temps when towing, as 10k lbs is going to stress that engine over time.
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 6 күн бұрын
@@Cloud30000 I tow short durations of a large dump trailer loaded with a small tractor. The torque of this little engine is impressive.
@Oneshawdog89
@Oneshawdog89 4 күн бұрын
Keep pulling 10 k lbs, she’s gonna blow up! It’s a 4 banger!!! Don’t let that torque fool you😂😂😂😂
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 4 күн бұрын
@@Oneshawdog89 I will keep towing and enjoy the 100,000 mile warranty I have.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 3 күн бұрын
@@Oneshawdog89 towing is harder on the transmission than anything else. sure the engine has to try a bit harder, but the damage almost always ends up on the transmission, especially with any kind of hills
@jasoncheeseman8154
@jasoncheeseman8154 7 күн бұрын
As a truck owner ( hemi ram) and mechanic I’m rooting for this engine because I know most people don’t need 400 hp and 400 torque .. I absolutely 100% agree with you on the split port direct injection
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I think for the average person who does not tow, or tow often. Something like this is very reasonable.
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 6 күн бұрын
​@TheGettyAdventures Alex what's wrong with towing with engine? For the average person towing a travel trailer or snowmobile trailer this would be fine.
@chris6743
@chris6743 6 күн бұрын
Traded my RAM in for a Sierra with this engine 3 weeks ago haven't had one regret other than couldn't get a crew cab long bed with the options I wanted. RAM priced me out of the market on trucks and the market value was dropping like a stone. I'm getting 23MPG on the highway on the 2 road trips I've taken and around 17.5 in the city I don't miss my HEMI at all. Tows my side by side better than my RAM did which shocked me.
@mitchharris97
@mitchharris97 6 күн бұрын
@@chris6743 I traded my ram in for a Silverado with this engine haven’t looked back tows great drives great getting 23.7-24 mpg highway and running around town see 19.5 mpg vs the 15-18 I was seeing with the hemi
@grizz474
@grizz474 6 күн бұрын
That's why the Ford 2.7 ecoboost is such a great engine, 325 hp 400tq. It's a great engine for the majority that doesn't need to tow a 10K trailer frequently, yet can still do it now and then without worry. I have the 3.5 ecoboost, it tows anything that a half ton should be towing effortlessly with power and torque to spare.
@larry648
@larry648 6 күн бұрын
Well, I have a 2020 Silverado Custom with the 310/348 version of this engine. I haven’t had any issues. Tows my 21 foot boat just fine, rides nice, dives good down in East Tennessee hills. I will say one thing, great gas mileage, but she sucks gas towing. I can live with it, she’s making power.
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick 7 күн бұрын
Props to the re-review. Much more fair then last years Alex!
@crt5866
@crt5866 7 күн бұрын
I love the "Certified Dirty Idle" California sticker on the tool box" XD
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Haha thought a couple folks would appreciate that
@justinschnepf
@justinschnepf Күн бұрын
As an engineer, I i applaud GM for craming so much technology in such a small form factor while maintaining an extremely reliable product. I'm a diesel guy and previously owned the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the L5P Duramax... But if i were to ever leave the Duramax engine for a gasser, I would 100% consider this one.
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 6 күн бұрын
Time will tell, but I'm a 3.0 Duramax Diesel owner and I absolutely love it!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I gotta get a 3L back on the channel. I love that engine.
@user-ui4iv8dz3w
@user-ui4iv8dz3w 3 күн бұрын
I got the LM2. I love it. Couple issues long crank, intermittent nox2 efficiency, and just recent oil consumption. 1 quart per 1k miles. Keep an eye on your oil.
@454budman
@454budman 2 күн бұрын
@@user-ui4iv8dz3w there is a tsb about oil consumption on that motor and the intake cracking. Probably the cause of everything else
@AKS-74U
@AKS-74U 7 күн бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more of this light duty content, especially the Maverick content
@muznick
@muznick 5 күн бұрын
I've owned a 2023 Silverado for a year now and am quite happy with the 2.7. On a few random occasions, it had like 5 seconds of slight vibration after startup, but no driveability issues so far. There is plenty of power, especially the torque down low is awesome. Wish it sounded like a V-8, but you can't have everything. It makes for a great work truck and is actually very quiet while cruising.
@richiep.3366
@richiep.3366 6 күн бұрын
Nice job of breaking it down for someone who is not mechanically inclined. The channel should be renamed to “The Getty Professor “. Well done.
@jeremsgarage
@jeremsgarage 6 күн бұрын
Great video! People love to hate on this engine but it just keeps working!
@Oddman1980
@Oddman1980 6 күн бұрын
I had a little truck with a weirdly large four cylinder (2.9L) and I really enjoyed it's "industrial" sound. I bet this engine makes a similar sound.
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 6 күн бұрын
With an exhaust it sounds like a turbo honda
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Honestly the turbo whistle is the most notable sound in my opinion
@agentstevehaines9164
@agentstevehaines9164 6 күн бұрын
I personally think all 4 of GM'S engine options are excellent and offer great diversity depending on what customers are looking for. I decided on the LZ0 when i got my 23 LTZ and i couldn't be happier with it so far!!👍
@gfsquall
@gfsquall 2 күн бұрын
I’ve got a 2023 chevy silverado 1500 with the 2.7. Almost 50k miles of pulling a 5klb trailer. Uses about 1.5 quarts of oil in 5k mile oil change interval. It doesn’t burn it, it loses the oil somewhere in the turbo system I think. These trucks in the WT trim are freakin sweet and super easy to work on. I like Fords for the luxury trims. But I think for smaller work trucks, the 2.7 GM engine is the best option.
@Montana270
@Montana270 Күн бұрын
Does it read low on the dipstick when it's 1.5q low out of 6? Mines got 13k is all, and doesn't really seem to burn more than like maybe a pint between the 3.5k intervals I've been doing.
@agerardomp
@agerardomp 5 күн бұрын
Greetings Alex. The main problem with AFM and DFM is that when they fail the cost of engine repair is higher. So then the treasure of some companies and workshops is to disconnect these "Fuel Saving" systems in software and mechanically. What fun from GM development engineers. A pleasure to see your videos, analysis and comments; Thanks Alex. I send you a big hug! 🤠
@davidholcomb9961
@davidholcomb9961 5 күн бұрын
I have seen quite a few of your reviews and the are well thought out. As GM was first rolling out the TurboMax engine i saw the engineering video and i was quite impressed with the structure and the rigorous testing. Now that GM has boosted the warranty to 100,000 miles and seeing this review, i am very impressed. I would love to have that engine in my 2002 Tacoma regular cab 4x4! It would probably break my truck to pieces but that would be a blast for a little while though! After all, my engine is also a 2.7!
@mikesamson1930
@mikesamson1930 4 күн бұрын
I had the 2000 Tacoma with the V6. It was lacking power (5200 ft altitude), so the 2.7 must have been tough. The GM 2.7 is night and day difference. You can actually merge onto the highway with ease. It will pull a hill on my commute at 1800 rpm in top gear (75 mph), where the Toyota needed to downshift to maintain speed (5-speed manual). Definitely a torquey motor down low, but spins up to redline just fine. It does get a bit noisy as the rpm get above 3500.
@pascalgagne12
@pascalgagne12 6 күн бұрын
Always love your real world reviews. You are making me re-think my Duramax 3.0 in my 1500. Would love to hear your take between the 2 engines since the specs are so close.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 6 күн бұрын
The LZ0 is the best engine option in the GM half-tons. Especially with the max tow 3.73 axle ratio.
@RK-ds7im
@RK-ds7im 5 күн бұрын
Happy owner of a Silverado 1500 with 2.7T. The truck easily gets 10L/100km in highway driving. Has a nice smooth turbo whistling noise while driving.
@davidortiz173
@davidortiz173 7 күн бұрын
Afm is a deal breaker for me period! Also, I believe a 4 cylinder engine doesn't need it!
@VortexArcade
@VortexArcade 7 күн бұрын
After a year, I have *never* seen the ECO light on mine come on. I'm not a leadfoot either, I think it just activates under a very minimal set of circumstances.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
It is odd that a 4 cylinder engine would need to run on only 2 cylinders I agree.
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
It seems like they designed a 6\8 cylinder variant, then kept the cylinder deactivation tech when they reduced it to 4 cylinders. I can’t imagine the gas savings is even measurable at the pump.
@Dis-Emboweled
@Dis-Emboweled 5 күн бұрын
This AFM is a copy of Honda's VTech. And Honda's VTech works just fine. GM just took it up a notch and added a 3rd profile for the cylinder deactivation. Keep the oil checked and changed and there won't ever be a problem
@davidortiz173
@davidortiz173 5 күн бұрын
That may be true, but you are still going to have uneven loading, and thus, uneven wear between cylinders!
@warringwarthog
@warringwarthog 3 күн бұрын
why am I getting the late 70's early 80's vibes small motors in oversized vehicles
@greathey1234
@greathey1234 7 күн бұрын
It seems GMs 4 turbo is more reliable that Toyotas 6. Who'd have believed it?
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 7 күн бұрын
Nah gm will brush things under the rug and won’t fix anything. Toyta will fix it and make it right
@steven5096
@steven5096 7 күн бұрын
⁠@@freedomisntfree_44so Toyota is going to recall all 2024 Tundras/Tacomas and get them all a new engine ?
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 6 күн бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44is that why Toyota dealers are refusing to trade in tundras right now and don’t want to fix them? Toyota knew about the issue for YEARS and did nothing. There’s also a lawsuit over the rav4s coolant bypass valve and Toyota refusing to fix it. They have a long way to go on the Tacomas with all the issues that’s been having. Colorados and rangers are looking mighty good right now
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 6 күн бұрын
​@@freedomisntfree_44I disagree.They put out a service bulletin for the cracked block and are fixing them. Toyota is a mess right now with their two trucks. As of now there is no fix for the debris chewing up bearings in the Tundras Turbo 6. They were forced to issue the recall cause it was a safety concern
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 6 күн бұрын
@@steven5096 must be too young to remember the 5.7 dropping valve springs, secondary air pump problems, throttle sticking. All fixed by 2010. I have a 13 5.7 with a quarter million miles without a problem. Toyota fixes their shit 👍 also to young to remember the 3.0 v6 Toyota had….
@juanbarajas5376
@juanbarajas5376 4 күн бұрын
I bought my 2.7 turbo in February 2024 and am happy with it. I tow a small 21’ wolf pup trailer and it does really good. One thing I noticed however is if towing up a steep incline, it doesn’t like to be pushed. It’s more happy in the 2700-3200 rpm range. If I floor it, the engine just revs up and slowly accelerates, whereas if I accelerate gently and let it downshift it will accelerate better
@ericj810
@ericj810 13 минут бұрын
Ya if you punch it all a sudden you will loose the power band. Ecu will kick back at ya a lil. Seems its just programmed that way? Ease on the 2800 or 3400 rpm it wont do that. Torque curve changes over 4400 rpm.
@acdc5579
@acdc5579 3 күн бұрын
My 2023 2.7 Turbomax Silverado with 15,000 miles has had zero issues and really has impressed me.
@user-xk4vt9ye8j
@user-xk4vt9ye8j 6 күн бұрын
I don’t know about the durability of these highly stressed small turbos but I recently drove a F-150 2.7L and it drove like a V8 and got 31mpg. I was impressed.
@abiker21
@abiker21 6 күн бұрын
I rented one and it blew me away with the acceleration.
@johnk6206
@johnk6206 Күн бұрын
31?! I had a 22 f150 2.7, and it struggled to see 19 on the highway. Fair power, but bad milage.
@user-xk4vt9ye8j
@user-xk4vt9ye8j 22 сағат бұрын
@@johnk6206 That’s strange. The one I was driving was empty and it was almost all highway. The turbo seldom kicked in, maybe that’s why I saw that mileage. I wouldn’t have believed it either if I hadn’t seen it.
@gopnick
@gopnick 7 күн бұрын
I had one and loved it. Didn’t like the old 8-speed transmission but I hear they updated it. Power delivery on the 2.7L is shockingly similar to my 3.0 Duramax.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I agree. I mention that when I’m towing with it. A little odd they don’t just buckle it up with the flagship 10 speed. But maybe eventually.
@mitchharris97
@mitchharris97 6 күн бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I wonder if it’s cause they wanted the longer gears for the turbocharger?
@bo-dine7971
@bo-dine7971 6 күн бұрын
This is one of the coolest i4s ever, imo. I've always respected any team who has the guts to make off-set cylinders as it's simply a superior method but requires a lot of engineering to iron-out the follow-up issues.
@evanleo7633
@evanleo7633 Күн бұрын
This engine is under rated, it’s very reliable and powerful at altitude this engine will have more torque than any NA v8 out there. the biggest problem with it is it doesn’t give you bragging rights to say you have a v8 or simply can’t fulfill someone’s ego,
@wisco1225
@wisco1225 6 күн бұрын
2.7 is the underdog, and i kind of like it.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Underdog is a great name for it.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 6 күн бұрын
Ive had the 2.7 turbo for about a year now and love it. Im not concerned about the direct injection carbon buildup at all. I think people make it a bigger deal that it is. My previous truck had the 4.3 v6 with direct injection. I saw the valves at 120k and they really weren't that bad. If anything youd need to get them walnut blasted once in the life of the truck. Not a big deal
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Fair enough, I guess for me it’s just something completely preventable.
@johnk6206
@johnk6206 Күн бұрын
A few horror stories went a LONG way on the internet. Overall I don't think coking is near the problem it was made out to be.
@jlcii
@jlcii 2 күн бұрын
I drove the GMC version of this at my job in truck rental. I was thoroughly impressed with the amount of power the engine gave. It honestly felt like something that would hold up for a long time.
@nross33
@nross33 5 күн бұрын
I love mine. My lease was up on my 22 Silverado with the 5.3 and after driving one of these I was sold. Love the turbo
@Montana270
@Montana270 Күн бұрын
Ive been hammering on my turbomax colorado for over a year now... 13k miles in with no issues other than its pretty loud and makes a lot of noise, but honestly it eats
@highball7347
@highball7347 2 күн бұрын
Referring to the torque, I regularly break traction with a 5,500 lb camper at stop lights on accident. From a dead stop this engine produces amazing torque.
@CoinKing13
@CoinKing13 7 күн бұрын
I have a 2024 LT with this motor and my last truck was a 2021 Trail Boss with the 5.3 v8. The 5.3 performed much better. The Turbo Max isn’t terrible, and is probably fine for guys who don’t really haul anything. I think it’s a little under powered and doesn’t haul or tow as well as advertised, it’s also a little sluggish on the expressway but moves well once it’s going. Gas Milage is actually much worse than the 5.3.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
A lot of people mention the gas mileage not being great which I find interesting. And I agree with my trailer the engine just felt a little overhelmed
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
What are you towing? It’s designed for lighter loads than the v8, so it will feel underpowered and drink more gas if you tow at the top end of the v8 ratings. The 3.0 Duramax is the better engine for efficiently towing heavier loads.
@Eightball2516
@Eightball2516 7 күн бұрын
I don’t like the active fuel management on a 4 cylinder it is a waste and you are looking for problems look at the GM V8 with the afm it is a nightmare
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 6 күн бұрын
Mazda has active fuel management on their 2.5 liter non turbo engine in their cars
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
It is strange GM felt the need for AFM on a 4 cylinder engine. Personally I don’t really like it.
@FredRTP96
@FredRTP96 5 күн бұрын
To tell you the truth, as i own canyon with High output L3B Afm is rarely even active
@62jape
@62jape 5 күн бұрын
It’s innovative, powerful, and reliable. Got to admire an engine that can be all that.
@user-gx4tv3dg6j
@user-gx4tv3dg6j 4 күн бұрын
Alot of 4cylinder turbo hate going on be it chey,ford toyota fact is ive been a chrysler tech for 38 years these engines are the future thats a fact,they are man made and they can break,service them they will last.
@matthewm3912
@matthewm3912 7 күн бұрын
I used to have a turbo charged scion TC, nothing crazy in terms of power, but to think that these days you can get a beast of a turbo 4 banger like this in a truck is hilarious. I wish i had this in my Scion LOL.
@toddbachman3912
@toddbachman3912 4 күн бұрын
JUST BOUGHT A 1500. .. LAST WEEK END.. .... .. SO FAR SO GOOD.. I HOPE I CAN HAVE IT FOR A LONG TIME👍
@aidanpayan6919
@aidanpayan6919 6 күн бұрын
I bought a Sierra 2.7 a month ago and I have 1100 miles on it so far. As of now I have 0 complaints it has great power and the low end torque has me off the line and up to speed easily. I’m worried about the longevity of the engine long term but the 100k mile powertrain warranty does ease my mind a bit. I’m hoping in 3-4 years as I get further into ownership we will really know if it’s a reliable enough engine to hold on to for years or if I will dump it after warranty is up.
@coyleatkinson
@coyleatkinson 6 күн бұрын
i have a 23 Colorado. 2.7 turbo plus motor, one year later 19K later, fuel milage got better after 12K miles, great motor for a mid size truck, now getting 22 mpg in suburbandriving,25 mpg in highway driving, LOVE the power of the 2.7 haven't tested the 7700 pound tow rating yet
@thunderbolt5354
@thunderbolt5354 6 күн бұрын
Turdbo 2.7 sounds worse than a 1992 Honda Civic !
@BradyReading
@BradyReading 6 күн бұрын
Similar boat. 23 Colorado with the HO tune. 25k miles so far with 10% of that towing around 6k lbs. I’ve got a rack and tent over the bed and I live in a hilly high elevation area but it still gets combined 18.5 mpg. It tows great, plenty of power. Honestly the rear suspension felt like the weak point at 6k lbs, more squat than I’d like. The engine didn’t even care and happily sat at 2300 rpm on the highway with that load in tow.
@JWL427
@JWL427 6 күн бұрын
No I wouldn't consider buying one but I'm watching because I enjoy your reviews.
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 7 күн бұрын
This engine has been out for 7 years all ready ?!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
in 2025 model year truck - yes lol
@gregktm8907
@gregktm8907 6 күн бұрын
20,000 miles on my 23 often towing 7x16 box trailer through east coast hills / mountains. NO REGRETS... I will say MPG towing is horrible... really horrible.... but as a daily driver MPG is decent and the truck drives great.
@moriver1
@moriver1 6 күн бұрын
Watching all your videos over time on this is telling. I am a diesel mechanic turned service manager turned facility manager. I think Chevrolet might have a hit with this one. I love my 2.7!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I mean like I mentioned its not a 350 small block. But for all the tech smashed into it, they are holding very well. something I did not see coming. I thought this was going to be an absolute grenade for GM. similar to the 3L EcoDiesel from RAM lol.
@davestamand1402
@davestamand1402 7 күн бұрын
i have a 2023 custom exactly like this one and im really amazed by the performance of the engine. My only real complaint with this engine is the fuel economy. It's not horrendous for a full sized truck but for a 4 cylinder its absurd. Still love my truck tho.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
It’s interesting, a ton of owners say the same thing about the MPG. I did a fuel economy loop the day and honestly it killed it. But when I reviews the first 2.7 my fuel economy was terrible lol so idk.
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 6 күн бұрын
​@@TheGettyAdventures Alex it was terrible because it was winter and winter blend fuels are known for poor economy!
@FINfinFINfinFINfin
@FINfinFINfinFINfin 6 күн бұрын
What mpg are you getting?
@gtrance3567
@gtrance3567 6 күн бұрын
Cool little engine. Too bad mpgs aren’t higher. Great video!! 👍
@danold6443
@danold6443 6 күн бұрын
that looks like a good motor to fit into anything!
@paulmartin8212
@paulmartin8212 8 сағат бұрын
I have 47k on mine. Very impressive. I don't tow often but pulling about 5000lbs for me is no problem. Again, quite surprised at performance and economy.
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 7 күн бұрын
2011 gm made fun of ford for the 3.5 ecoboost and it’s embarrassing how much better it tows than the 6.2 to this day still. Then bam gm drops a 4 banger in a full size 😂 the 2.7 to get is the ford.
@melvingibson4525
@melvingibson4525 7 күн бұрын
They're all scrap
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 7 күн бұрын
@@melvingibson4525 So are the GM V8's 🤣
@nodak81
@nodak81 7 күн бұрын
V8 or nothing. No way I'm buying any turbo garbage. Dealer near me always has a half dozen Ecoturds in the shop with bad cam phasers.
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 7 күн бұрын
@@nodak81 and people have ran them for 100k miles with that rattle and keep going. Not like the lifter failure gm has had
@melvingibson4525
@melvingibson4525 7 күн бұрын
@@Jay-me7gw Tundra v8
@richstevens296
@richstevens296 6 күн бұрын
How do you feel about the longevity being its only direct injection? Carbon issues? That’s my biggest concern.
@natecurrier
@natecurrier 6 күн бұрын
Stumbled upon your channel and sub’d! Any chance you’ll do a similar review on the current Frontier?
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I would love to. where I rent my trucks from does not carry any Nissan products unfortunately. I have asked Nissan to partner with me so we'll see where that goes lol
@natecurrier
@natecurrier 6 күн бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures ah, no worries. I leased a 23 Pro4X and loved it minus a little finickiness from the transmission. I’m considering a Colorado/Canyon in a year or so and am apprehensive about the drivetrain (or overall quality/reliability). Thanks for the video!
@westcoastronnieOC714
@westcoastronnieOC714 6 күн бұрын
Will this engine run well if you decide to want to turn off the active fuel management? Not a big fan of it.
@davidlefranc6240
@davidlefranc6240 6 күн бұрын
Imagine a version of this with those new electric engines mounted in the transmission giving this thing 80 more horse and 100 ft of torque this thing would become really fuel efficient and pretty powerful.
@michiganman4398
@michiganman4398 6 күн бұрын
I learned my lesson with GM when the DOD failed in my Sierra destroying the engine. I understand this doesn’t have those but what it does have looks even more fragile. No thanks
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
Only engine left without that scary tech is the Nissan, so choices are limited
@rwilson7744
@rwilson7744 2 күн бұрын
So AFM??? It shuts off cylinders??
@TheRandalHandle
@TheRandalHandle Сағат бұрын
I'm still annoyed that they stopped production on the LWN 2.8 L Duramax. It was already the most fuel efficient truck by quite a bit and they could have paired it with the 10-speed automatic to make it even better.
@azizrawnaq4992
@azizrawnaq4992 2 күн бұрын
Hey, I've been needing a pickup truck for work and Im wondering if you have any recommendations. I'm looking for a V6 or V4 pickup truck for $45,000 USD max and it has to be atleast a 2017 but prefereably 2020 - 2024, and im buying from dealership. I'm not hauling to much weight I just deliver boxes that i put in the trunk and the backseat and all the box that I will be putting in the truck will probably weigh a total of 500lbs, so im not moving to much weight. I just want it to be really fuel efficeint and reliable, and a good overall truck. So please let me know what trucks are the best for my needs. Thank you!
@LindsayPeters987
@LindsayPeters987 11 сағат бұрын
Very reliable. I would consider this truck for sure
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 4 күн бұрын
It will be interesting to see the fuel economy test as the EPA numbers are pretty bad for such a small engine.
@Expedition18
@Expedition18 6 күн бұрын
Wow a lot of thought went into that engine.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
for a 4 cylinder engine, they shoved soo much tech into it. Which I guess is why I thought it would be a disaster, but as time has gone by they are seemingly holding up pretty well.
@MrWalkerds
@MrWalkerds Күн бұрын
Will we get another more in depth video of the 3.0 LZ0 duramax?
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments 6 күн бұрын
Per fuelly, the avg MPG on the TurboMax is 18-19. On the Duramax 3.0, it's 25-26. So if you're getting 40% better fuel economy with the diesel, I wouldn't even say it's a close contest in that arena.
@mannyb8056
@mannyb8056 13 сағат бұрын
Toyota has had the dual port and direct injection system (D4S) since 2006 starting with the Lexus IS350.
@yolo_burrito
@yolo_burrito 3 күн бұрын
Toyota has been doing dual injection for years. I have a 2015 NX 2.0t and it’s been great.
@Krivaja22
@Krivaja22 5 күн бұрын
I have a 2021 5.3L without the DFM (due to chip shortage) no issues so far but can someone confirm if it still has the DFM lifters?
@timseigel9333
@timseigel9333 4 күн бұрын
Yes, it still has the same lifters. They just don't ever have to collapse like they do on one with the DFM that is operational.
@Krivaja22
@Krivaja22 3 күн бұрын
@@timseigel9333 Do you believe they are just as good as non-DFM lifters since they never collapse? Have you heard people without the DFM but with DFM lifters having issues?
@dustyroads834
@dustyroads834 6 күн бұрын
I have a 2022 GMC 3500. It has the 6.6 gas motor. It’s been flawless for 35,000 miles but being direct injection has me constantly fearing carbon buildup on the intake valves. I’ve been considering some kind of additive to put in the gas but don’t quite dare at this point. All I do is try not to let her lug down to low RPM when pulling hard. I dont know if this helps prevent that potential problem or not.
@earlybird7402
@earlybird7402 5 күн бұрын
Get a oil catch can. I did it'll keep from getting carbon buildup.
@MattChat56
@MattChat56 6 күн бұрын
I wish GM would add two cylinders to this engine. GM, PLEASE BRING BACK THE STRAIGHT 6 ENGINES. I have the 3.0L LZO duramax and just love how smooth it is. Pulls great as well. Would love to have a gas version.
@GixxerFoo
@GixxerFoo 6 күн бұрын
I am sold on this motor, I have been a die hard it ain't a truck if ain't a V8 my whole life. Personally I feel these have less issues than the AFM V8's, if the V8's didn't have AFM I would still opt for the V8. That 430 torque is what really sells me on these motors.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Its too bad because I really like GMs V8's but the lifter issues kill it for me.
@Oneshawdog89
@Oneshawdog89 4 күн бұрын
Don’t be a “torque dummy”😂😂😂 You will pay the price later for the 4 banger, watch
@FINfinFINfinFINfin
@FINfinFINfinFINfin 6 күн бұрын
This thing would be great with a 6 speed to replace the 37hp factory engine in my '74 Mini.
@Gerry-K
@Gerry-K 6 күн бұрын
In a Mid size truck the 2.7 is OK. But I wouldn't want it in a full size PU. Unless it's used for hauling grocery's from! Wal-Mart!
@GYPSY400
@GYPSY400 6 күн бұрын
Most pick up trucks are used for that nowadays.
@kakarotto4star
@kakarotto4star 5 күн бұрын
I’ve had too much bad luck with my 4.3L AFM Silverado to get another engine with AFM. I’d get a duramax or 2500
@macklandtube
@macklandtube 46 минут бұрын
You must talk about MPG with a review video. I've heard good things about MPG with this engine. It would be nice to hear from someone that's driven one for awhile.
@DyingCatalyst
@DyingCatalyst 6 күн бұрын
I’m genuinely curious if anyone can answer or even mr. Handsome Alex, why wouldn’t gm do dual turbo like Ford/Ram/Toyota? Just for simplicity sake or for reliability? Probably more to it but feels weird knowing they have a single turbo
@wickertwm
@wickertwm 3 күн бұрын
Sounds good. They really don't need double overhead cams as the engine is not a revving engine but a low end power engine. Why would they go with an Aluminum block (weigh savings). They have the facilities to make a Cast Iron block cheaper, and it would be stronger to take the pounding of a diesel engine. It seems like every new engine has a vast number of good features, but some engineer or accountant has to but in and make one weak component. The oil soaked belt turning the oil pump in the Eco boost engines. Great engine why not use a chain, the weak spot stands out like a sore thumb and is now costing Ford Big Time.
@twotrackjack2260
@twotrackjack2260 4 күн бұрын
This cam setup reminds me a lot of honda's vtech
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 6 күн бұрын
Toyota has used both port and direct injection in a truck since the 2016 Tacoma came out.
@ArnoldsDesign
@ArnoldsDesign 5 күн бұрын
How many miles are these engines lasting?
@Montana270
@Montana270 Күн бұрын
Seems to be a lot over 100k now, some over 150k and 200k as well with no issues at all. Some seem to have issues though like 30-50k which I believe is user error
@ArnoldsDesign
@ArnoldsDesign Күн бұрын
@@Montana270 Interesting. Thanks
@craigquann
@craigquann Күн бұрын
I have a 17 sierra with the base 4.3L V6. If I were to buy a new truck today, I'd likely take the 2.7L. Wisdom tells me to stick with the 5.3L V8 (since they no longer offer the V6) but both the 2.7L and the 3.0L Diesel are attractive offerings. I don't like the timing chain/oil pump belts on the Diesel that requires the transmission removed to service, plus the additional expenses upfront and maintenance. So the 2.7L seems like the cheap and sweet offer. Especially if it's proven, which it seems like it might be... but what's the take/buy rate of the 2.7L? The old 4.3 was about 20%, and it's proving to be a great engine.
@rute1745
@rute1745 6 күн бұрын
The L3B needs to be put into Colorado if not already but I do miss the baby duramax in the Colorado though!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
It actually is in the mid size GM trucks. a great decision in my opinion by GM
@coachvonyo
@coachvonyo 6 күн бұрын
I would consider this as a replacement for my wifes 2.8 Colorado if it only had the 10 speed. I think we could live with the other short comings but the GM 8 speeds have proven to be sub par (to be nice) and is basically a deal breaker. Looking towards the 3.0 SST standard output rught now but will give it a year or two.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I agree, the 8 speed is an odd choice. Why not just put the flagship 10 speed behind the 2.7L. Maybe in the future they will address that
@reserva120
@reserva120 6 күн бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I heard “ somewhere “ that GM re did the whole eight speed transmission
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick 6 күн бұрын
I have had 2 GM 8 speeds no problems but all later builds. 8 speed came out in 2014 and yeah it had problems
@othatdude30
@othatdude30 3 күн бұрын
They need to do something about the sound from the exhaust.
@corvettefan91
@corvettefan91 6 күн бұрын
Looking forward to an update 84 years from now to see how it compares to my pre-war Flathead Ford.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
this engine will be dust in 84 years lol
@Matt-mh5ud
@Matt-mh5ud 5 күн бұрын
The only replacement for displacement is boost. It's a bit scary this thing runs at 22 PSI - that's A LOT of internal stress. Waiting for the first manufacturer to creep up to the 30 PSI mark in the power war race.
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 4 күн бұрын
2:00 the turbo is the reason it making 90% torque @ 1500 rpm. Toyota Camry 2.5 has a slightly longer stroke and it peak @ 5,000 rpm.
@thunderbolt5354
@thunderbolt5354 6 күн бұрын
I could not live with that Honda Civic Sound ! I will keep my 5.3 V8 ! Nothing like the sound of a V8 !
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 6 күн бұрын
V8’s will always sound better, but a large cylinder inline 4-banger does sound better then a small cylinder 6-banger (diesel vs motorcycle).
@thunderbolt5354
@thunderbolt5354 6 күн бұрын
@@Cloud30000 There is nothing You can do to improve the whimpy sound of a 4 Banger !
@98KingQuad
@98KingQuad 5 күн бұрын
Where in NB are you ?
@mouselt1
@mouselt1 6 күн бұрын
For the complexity and problems vs the benefits, cylinder deactivation is a bust.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
I honestly agree. I would imagine its for emission regulations more then anything which is just not fun.
@jimparker7778
@jimparker7778 6 күн бұрын
It isn't a complex motor--it's just big for a four-banger. It's a 4 cylinder 16 valve DOHC. Practically every car in the orient has one.
@tedlawrence1348
@tedlawrence1348 6 күн бұрын
Interesting the V6 in the Colorado gets better fuel economy.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 6 күн бұрын
The turbo loves drinking that fuel lol
@richardlambert1544
@richardlambert1544 6 күн бұрын
Too much shit to go wrong
@garybulwinkle82
@garybulwinkle82 3 күн бұрын
If you're manufacturing a four cylinder engine specifically to be turbocharged, you need to beef up the internals to stand up to the extra stress for the longevity of the engine! Like everything, stress will shorten it's service life if it is not taken into consideration when designing it! Things like larger journals both rod and mains, bigger rods and forged pistons, forged crank, beefier block casting with webbing and gussets as well as improved cooling capacities!!! Essentially, you need to build it like a Diesel engine!!!
@imacrazy6872
@imacrazy6872 3 күн бұрын
This video is about shit NOT going wrong with the 2.7 four cylinder.
@km3663m
@km3663m 2 күн бұрын
@@garybulwinkle82 And that’s exactly what they did. I can’t recall where I read it, but they engineered it like a diesel. I really like this engine
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 6 күн бұрын
2:05 that rivals fords og 4.15L inline 4
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 6 күн бұрын
But will it hold the same level of reliability
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 5 күн бұрын
If i ever was going to buy a light duty then i would only get a coyote or LZ0
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