Buddy Rich On Match Grip Vs Traditional Grip

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Жыл бұрын

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@_BryanKAdams Жыл бұрын

This is the "in my day we walked 5 miles through the snow" of drumming

@zanybandyt7774 Жыл бұрын

bro traditional is just more comfortable

@xxxtentacionfannumber1339 Жыл бұрын

@@zanybandyt7774 depends where the snare is, and how you learned. I’ll admit it’s easier if I’m playing jazz and focusing more on the snare, but playing any other genre my snare positioning would make it too hard to play snare and hi hat at the same time. Different for everybody.

@braepil Жыл бұрын

@@zanybandyt7774 it absolutely isn’t. 5 years of marching snare and I’ll rarely pick traditional over matched when on the kit.

@aa-rondavis2914 Жыл бұрын

@@zanybandyt7774 lol there’s a reason 99.99% of drummers use matched grip

@benbarnier4629 Жыл бұрын

@@braepil you right, they wrong. And who tf cares anyways

@MrSpencerMcIntosh Жыл бұрын

As much of a legend as I agree he is, what i’m hearing is: “I didn’t learn that way so it’s wrong.” Sometimes it’s hard to watch change become the norm.

@johnsmith-ln7ni Жыл бұрын

Buddy is right... the trade off is speed -vs- playing melodically... i.e. speed is very impressive but melodically is more effective...

@fernandovilla3956 Жыл бұрын

That’s such a true quote. “Sometimes it’s hard to watch change become the norm.” Good shit dude.

@patrickmcmahon1110 Жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-ln7ni I mean maybe. I think the biggest advantage to traditional grip is power control on the snare, but that’s also just a practice thing.

@reredrumuoy Жыл бұрын

Ita because you dont understand the drums.

@MrSpencerMcIntosh Жыл бұрын

@@reredrumuoy okay, you don’t understand music.

@BoxUpMyBones Жыл бұрын

"Ya see, with matched grip, ya can't..--" *does the exact thing he says you can't*

@megamrsoftee Жыл бұрын

lol i saw the same clip of him followed by him ripping with match grip

@megamrsoftee Жыл бұрын

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@auxc.6805 Жыл бұрын

its because its bad technique. Its not that you cant do it. Its that you can accomplish more using the “correct” way. Thus making it harder to play and other musicians having to use other types of fills that their mind creates as he way implying.

@tedkaczynski99 Жыл бұрын

All three of u retarded he said u cant roll with it properly then demonstrated the superior roll, then he showed how they rely on speed more, where he takes the most efficient movements as most trained musicians do for their instrument. Like playing a guitar with one finger, even if you get something to sound the same whyd u do it

@zane4575 Жыл бұрын

@@auxc.6805 Bullshit. The best technique is the technique that works. And where is Jazz now?

@claudiofernandes9834 Жыл бұрын

And years later a rock drummer recorded 2 tribute albums with a bunch of rock drummers playing a bunch of jazz standards with BR original band. Times change, Buddy....

@montyrayza7220 Ай бұрын

True but you just kind of made Buddy's point. Neil Peart changed to the classic buddy grip to play on those Buddy Rich tribute Albums and never went back to Match Grip afterwards. Neil was better than ever after doing so and I'm not saying traditional grip was the reason why but I believe the experience as a whole brought him to that new level.

@GreenToFeelBlue Жыл бұрын

Buddy rich would shit himself if he saw the modern metal drummer playing match grip at 300bpm.

@kertaspaper94 Жыл бұрын

And then talk shit on those metal drummers regardless

@defiverr4697 Жыл бұрын

That metalhead Serbian drummer with a long beard and a cowbell on his snare? Who only mimics, copies, covers and has zero creativity and originality? Yes, Rich would shit on him too.

@Str1ng5 Жыл бұрын

Imagine his response to double strokes on kick pedals.... would he frown on swivel tecnique? I mean.... he never played double kick, so he couldnt argue it wasn't correct, or improper.... george kollias

@JohnSmith-su3ze Жыл бұрын

Buddy Rich can play faster than all of them

@GreenToFeelBlue Жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-su3ze ooookay!! Lol Your mom can run through more dudes than normal but that doesn't make her a good drum skin. Listen to George Kolias or El Estapario. The argument you're attempting to make is very much like, "cars were much more fuel efficient and faster 50 years ago and that's just not true. You're basically a complete idiot.

@adambeaudoin8818 Жыл бұрын

Soldiers used traditional grip because it was a more natural way for them to hit the drum when it was slung over their shoulder

@aa-rondavis2914 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Traditional grip only existed for necessity. If you change your drum set up, matched grip makes way more sense. Also it’s kinda just mechanics, you’ll always be faster and smoother when your hands are playing in a symmetrical way. Instead of traditional where one hand is essentially twisting. Also Buddy Rich was notorious for being an asshole to his band mates so I truly appreciate his skills and playing but nobody has to listen to his opinions lol

@hazardeur Жыл бұрын

@@aa-rondavis2914 amen brother

@AdmiralTom Жыл бұрын

As much as I love Buddy, this is exactly the comment I was looking for

@lanceroberthough1275 Жыл бұрын

yup. slanted shoulder slung drum at 30°

@briangambler9166 Жыл бұрын

On drum set, it’s pretty much just for looks

@gaboogablah Жыл бұрын

Traditional grip was used for when the drum hung at the side of your waist like the old military and marching, but matched grip is better for the drum set since you're sitting and playing with no drum hanging from your waist.

@CHIMPOaGOGO Жыл бұрын

Yup! There's no significant benefit from traditional over matched on set.

@jimmy_james0007 Жыл бұрын

@@CHIMPOaGOGO Well if your playing on a old, small or crappy kits, traditional usually gives you better options. Also lets be honest traditional looks awesome!

@smitemoore3694 Жыл бұрын

They don’t get more creative than that John Bonham: hold my Vodka

@n.k8557 10 ай бұрын

Neil Peart: hold my gold stands.

@totigerus Ай бұрын

@@n.k8557 Tommy Lee: hold my penis while I film it.

@MrFchank 16 күн бұрын

Yep,and then at 32,he choked to death on his own vomit. What a great career.

@perfectpiano1871 7 күн бұрын

@@MrFchankwhy would you have to bring that up?!🤦🏻

@TheMrfloydman 5 күн бұрын

@@MrFchank the flame that burns twice as bright lasts half as long... And that's why, 40 years after his death every drummer alive still knows bonhams name. you clearly don't understand what legacy is or what it means, so just do us all a favor and be quiet

@max_mittler Жыл бұрын

When he says “you can’t do it that way” he means “I can’t do it that way”

@anthonytaylor7928 Жыл бұрын

True that

@danbardos3498 Жыл бұрын

No! That's just not true.

@salad9601 Жыл бұрын

bro what I think you dont play drums

@eboone Жыл бұрын

@@salad9601 What

@aisaxonawiat6484 Жыл бұрын

He realized way back then what so many of us know now, that your music sucks and it's only going to get worse.

@DeadBunny69 Жыл бұрын

The secret recordings of him screaming at his band on the bus are hysterical.

@jaypeterson7637 Жыл бұрын

Buddy absolutely eviscerates his band. 😬🙉 I'm not sure why they put up it!😒😳🤔

@NorseHorse1 Жыл бұрын

I first heard those recordings on vinyl. That shit was viral before the internet existed! Bootlegged on countless tapes. Man, he was a megalomaniacal PRICK!

@letsgobrandon5800 Жыл бұрын

My grandpa played with him. Said he was a real asshole but a real talent.

@jaypeterson7637 Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon5800 What instrument(s) did he play?!

@letsgobrandon5800 Жыл бұрын

@@jaypeterson7637 guitar and bass

@daneemberluto3457 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter how they play it. It's how catchy they did it.

@primobrickhouse Жыл бұрын

I could never argue with Buddy Rich on anything drums but this..............

@kreator4life Жыл бұрын

i love how he holds himself back when he used match grip

@bcg6760 Жыл бұрын

I also love how he doesn't know that it's called a French Grip.

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

dishonesty is easy to spot... and Buddy Rich was "full of it".

@nonameattached9671 Жыл бұрын

@@bcg6760 I’ve heard it be referred to as both

@screeeeeeemttv Жыл бұрын

@@bcg6760 it's called matched grip. french grip is a type of matched grip, there is also german grip which is *also* a matched grip. the different between french and german grip is how you are holding onto the stick. they are called matched grips, because your left and right hand are holding the stick in the same way. what he demonstrated was french grip, with his thumbs on the top of the stick - with german grip you wrap your thumb around the stick. but he was still correct in referring to it as matched grip

@GioGioPietromica425 Жыл бұрын

@@screeeeeeemttv I didn’t know this, but now I do. Pretty cool piece of drumming technique knowledge, thanks!

@A_Final_Hit Жыл бұрын

Buddy was great, no doubt, but he loved to inflate his already massive ego by belittling other drummers. He didn't like that Bonham, Baker, Moon and others were getting the spotlight, and not himself.

@billdrummer1197 Жыл бұрын

you are so right.

@carloscappellini1687 Жыл бұрын

He did not like anybody above 5 feet tall playing the drums....

@MichelLinschoten Жыл бұрын

Yah, because wtf did he knew about drumming right ? He only set standards ,I mean mhoaww! He wasn't that great compared to the guys that came after him. The spotlight he already had when they were still sucking tits ... You really need to learn the difference between emotional bias (you) and being factual , buddy rich set standards

@easpoorts Жыл бұрын

@@MichelLinschoten He was the kind of guy who didn't really feel the music, he was just flexing his chops. He was incredibly talented, but probably wouldn't have been able to do for example the supportive work on the kick that we can see from John Bonham. He was talented, but egoistic and definitely not a team player.

@MichelLinschoten Жыл бұрын

@@easpoorts that's because people wanted to PLAY with and FOR him not the other way around. His "arrogance" was pure perfection for the craft that he rightfully so. He was known to be a perfectionist. His body of work is proof of that , it's like stating miles Davis was arrogant ... Buddy rich is one of the most influential drummers of all times. He was allowed to be cocky !

@paulnicolosi4792 24 күн бұрын

He was very humble and treated his band members very well, almost like family…😜

@vladpadowicz5946 7 күн бұрын

Nice sarcasm 🤣🤣🤣🤣 😉👌

@MtnBadger Ай бұрын

Younger kids all say "Buddy Rich is just an old, jazz drummer... He can't play anything cool." Having seen him I'm person and listened to him for years and him being my inspiration for becoming a drummer, there's nothing he can't play, including rock and much better just about anyone I know. He chooses to play a lot of jazz but, ask him to siting with anyone and see what's up. Ask Portnoy, Chad Smith and all the others what they think about him. One thing he has is stick speed, I saw him hold a quarter on the wall about shoulder height and say "watch this." at which point he proceeded to do s dlstick roll with the tip on the quarter and take his other hand away. The quarter stayed right there because his roll was so fast it didn't have a chance to drop. A lot of his skill and technique is from lots of continuous practice but, a lot of it is from sheer, God given talent. 😊

@lmp9726 Жыл бұрын

One of the greatest drummers ever AND was prone to be a douchebag.

@Euro.Patriot Жыл бұрын

You'll find most of the greatest musicians had a huge fucking ego, Frederic Chopin and John Lennon were like this too.

@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын

Meh ~ people be flawed.

@mayhemjr.803 Жыл бұрын

Sinatra couldn't stand him. That in in a nutshell speaks for itself😂

@jayclarke9611 Жыл бұрын

Prone? He was a very large DB

@Funkability615 Жыл бұрын

How is this being a douchebag?

@waggz04 Жыл бұрын

"You only have 12 notes. Do what you want with them.” - Eddie Van Halen

@Lazuray666 Жыл бұрын

24-48+ if you count the microtones 🤓

@musicmaniac2657 Жыл бұрын

@@Lazuray666 5280 if you count the hz 🤓

@zippybanana2691 Жыл бұрын

👌

@Mascabar Жыл бұрын

@@musicmaniac2657 wouldn’t it be infinite then?

@yeasstt Жыл бұрын

@@musicmaniac2657 19980* Average human hearing range is 20hz-20khz Edit: and theoretically more if you go into decimal values. Though that's irrelevant because humans can't notice minute differences in pitch. JND is estimated to be 5 cents for the average person, but can go down for trained musicians.

@johnbuccetti8998 Жыл бұрын

One of the greatest drummers of all time. Don’t expect him to be one of the greatest people as well.

@gordr8024 15 күн бұрын

Not even close

@erikmartinez7277 Жыл бұрын

That last bit made think that he was going to want to play the Hawaii Five-O theme.

@Thedearster Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@TheRealHucasys 2 күн бұрын

Haha, me too! Wait, was that actually him??

@dannycobra9339 Жыл бұрын

That's a tell tale sign you're getting older, is when you complain about the issues you personally see with the next generation. When I was studying music in college I took a jazz appreciation class and Louie Armstrong complained about bebop and other modern styles of jazz after his time.

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

a famous swing trumpet player once stated "We don't flat our fifths, we DRINK em." Bravo, you're still stuck in the past, homie. Buddy Rich sounds like a grumpy, bitter old man losing any relevance he had faster than his hairline can escape.

@njoysuccessnow Жыл бұрын

Yep. Jim Brown has done the same by criticizing today's running backs for not being as tough and stepping out of bounds instead of physically engaging with the defender.

@joshualongbottom2252 Жыл бұрын

albert king saying Hendrix cant play the blues is another example

@danbardos3498 Жыл бұрын

Just wait till you get older; you will come to the same conclusion that modern music is shite. We all do it. Every generation.

@danbardos3498 Жыл бұрын

@mistah mayne It happens to us all. One day you will realize that music has passed you by and you just don't like anything contemporary or even care to know about it.

@Boogieplex Жыл бұрын

Imagine Eric Clapton in the 60’s telling Jimi Hendrix “Your doing it wrong”. Nope. Just not “your way”.

@WarNoob755 Жыл бұрын

The man detailed why he felt the way he did.

@GioGioPietromica425 Жыл бұрын

@@WarNoob755 Ok but like he was wrong, you never tell someone they’re playing their instrument wrong, if it works for them, being an elitist isn’t ok, even if you’re Buddy Rich

@zachhill8637 Жыл бұрын

You're= You Are Your= Something belonging to you Also, and I can't stress this enough, Hendrix is among the most overrated musicians of all time in any genre. Not saying he wasn't a fine player, but he wasn't this super hero people make him out to be.

@carsonryan4465 Жыл бұрын

@@zachhill8637 No, he wasn't a god, but he was incredibly influential which means he impacted the soundscape of our culture dramatically. I know plenty of people who don't like The Beatles, but not one of them would argue they didn't drastically alter music in western culture. It's not that Jimi was a super hero it's that what he played changed how people thought about music.

@WarNoob755 Жыл бұрын

@@GioGioPietromica425 he wasn't being the elitist. He was showing the cons of what they were doing.

@BradsGonnaPlay Жыл бұрын

“You can’t really do anything” 60 years later, all these drummers who surpassed him play with match grip.

@subsonicwarthog Жыл бұрын

He's right, 😊 we do that much with our feet now.

@seltzer30 Жыл бұрын

There is more to life than jazz drumming

@dcase20 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but theres not more to drumming than jazz.

@nicksemmer3262 Жыл бұрын

@@dcase20 that idea is clouded and wrong, jazz isnt the godfather of all modern drumming music, more like its cousin. It had some real influence but you cant just say JB and Pearts parts were built off of and jazz influenced. There is a certain independence in playing an instrument and once you try and limit it like this, the styles wont grow and expand into what we know and love today. Buddy Rich was a great drummer but the man was ignorant and nihilistic to think that there is only one proper way to play the drums. Thats like saying EVH learned to tap from goddamn BB king. Its not true, gatekeeping has always been a thing amongst these arrogant jazz drummers and I can’t see them accepting new styles until theyre all dead unfortunately. Great drumming is not cosmetically measured

@MrSpencerMcIntosh Жыл бұрын

@@dcase20 that’s an L take if i’ve ever heard one.

@FDE-fw1hd Жыл бұрын

@Topjunkie I disagree just like other instruments (guitar, piano, even singing) have different styles and techniques. I’d split it into 3. Classical, jazz, modern. I feel that jazz is very unique. It feels like it’s an in between. It’s not controlled and precise like classical but not intense and uniform like modern styles. This goes for drumming too. Jazz tone and resonance is different from modern drumming. The techniques used are different. What we focus on is different

@prod_adrian Жыл бұрын

@Topjunkie & Jazz drummers most definitely cant handle metal! Blast beats, 250bpm 16ths on hands and feet, ankle motion or swivel, gravity blasts, various stroke figures on kicks, 1st tom to 7th tom mobility around the kit.... How do people always want to compare two completely different genres in music, its beyond me. Some really need to cool their ego! Buddy Rich is a legend, but just like Maradona was nowhere as good as Messi, on todays standard, same with drummers...

@chaosclg Жыл бұрын

I wish he could see how good people are these days who use matched grip

@potestoniko Жыл бұрын

i would love to see how his jaw drops to the floor as he sees a performance by Gavin Harrison, Matt Gartska, or even Mike Portnoy

@lunchbox1553 Жыл бұрын

Grip has nothing to do with proficiency in general.

@buddyrichable1 Жыл бұрын

He could play perfectly with matched grip it’s just the way he moved around the drums in a big band jazz context traditional grip was more practical. He didn’t really like, or appreciate rock music, but every rock drummer was influenced by him.

@javierdespanjaard4384 Жыл бұрын

@@lunchbox1553 yes you are right. But buddy was saying that traditional is the RIGHT way to play. The commenter was just pointing out that a lot of drummers nowadays are really proficient with matched sticks. His point being that matched players play just as good as traditional players, not better. So basically what you're saying.

@sethforesi307 Жыл бұрын

@@lunchbox1553 that's just blatantly incorrect

@Mr29roses 9 күн бұрын

One of the greatest moments of my life was meeting Buddy Rich in his touring bus in Ottawa, just a few months before he died. He was very gracious and signed my friend's practice pad.

@UnderMyPalm Жыл бұрын

I want my bandmates to celebrate their delight that I'm finally dead when I die just like buddy.

@vladpadowicz5946 7 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@zepptar Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen several interviews of Buddy, in most he is putting other drum styles that are different from his down.

@LawrenceCarroll1234 Жыл бұрын

Ginger Baker did the same thing (put other drummers - and their styles - down). But personally, if musicians (& all creative artists) didn’t have big egos, then they probably would be a lot less interesting - and certainly less colorful!😊)

@zepptar Жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceCarroll1234 Very True 👍

@567dirt8910 Жыл бұрын

He's from a different era, for sure. Back when the "world was smaller" people who were considered the very best were actually just the people who were very very good, but also got all of the breaks and the attention- often due to money/connections, etc. There were always hundreds, maybe thousands of people as good or better. The internet has blown that shit out of the water.

@LawrenceCarroll1234 Жыл бұрын

@@567dirt8910 , all true to a great degree, but Krupa also got negative publicity by being busted for drugs at least once. Of course that could also work in his favor too (notoriety can also be worn as a badge of honor when you are the underdog). So I don’t cut him down, just put it all in perspective, and take what he - and those who disagree with him as well - all with a grain of salt.

@koopasandwich1114 Жыл бұрын

That's why jazz is a love/hate relationship for me. The music's great but everyone who plays it puts themselves on a golden pedestal like they're the best there's ever been and looks down on everyone else.

@_SliK_ Жыл бұрын

How about living by this: Play how you feel most comfortable, and don’t stop learning.

@freddygonzalez8797 Жыл бұрын

Bun E. Carlos said something very similar and proved it on a drum kit.

@thaiphrasestoknow9214 Жыл бұрын

@@freddygonzalez8797 and ended up messing up his hands really bad, I don't think he can play anymore.

@freddygonzalez8797 Жыл бұрын

@@thaiphrasestoknow9214 Actually, on top of that I believe he also may have back issues.

@ToddEngstrom-o1d 14 күн бұрын

Saw him twice in the 70’s. He was master class! Still listen to his albums daily.

@judgedredd3568 Жыл бұрын

I'm 56 started drumming at 8 I switched from matched grip to conventional when I was 12...the 1st year was hard... but i was able to do so much more once I got used to it

@alexcosten5900 Жыл бұрын

“i’m old and not popular anymore and upset about it”

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Buddy's heyday was 1940 - 1952.

@DARTHMOBIUS Жыл бұрын

You both completely missed the point of the video and it’s statement. The point is about education and application of traditional technical ability, that guy there was classically trained and learned a discipline, and by F’k could he drum. He could play everything to do with drumming. The others mentioned, were one trick ponies in over-hyped bands that could only do one thing…

@ericneilson2130 Жыл бұрын

@@DARTHMOBIUS he was not classically trained. Buddy Rich was self taught. He never took a drum lesson.

@garyjimenez3690 Жыл бұрын

He can play and could play around any one. Him jerry Lewis Johnny Carson and Sammy Davis Jr. Bad asses on the drum . Buddy rich was the best

@javierdespanjaard4384 Жыл бұрын

@@DARTHMOBIUS cope lol, ringo might be one of the best drummers of all time. One trick ponies my ass, you dont come up with come together and ticket to ride by being a one trick pony

@SecondaryHomunculus Жыл бұрын

And then there's Danny Carey switching his grip during songs depending on what he's playing.

@stankaus Жыл бұрын

Man needs an entire truck for his drum set and rig lol

@dcmastermindfirst9418 Жыл бұрын

Lol. Thomas lang has been doing that for over 20 years and would kick Carreys ass.

@dcmastermindfirst9418 Жыл бұрын

@@stankaus Lol. Danny's setup is tiny. Have you seen Portnoys or Terry bozzios??? It's about 10x bigger.

@bongcrust Жыл бұрын

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 yeah i cant wait for the world cup either. Thomas Lang is going to kill Carey

@dcmastermindfirst9418 Жыл бұрын

@@bongcrust World Cup?

@dudesuh686 Жыл бұрын

Joey Jordison giving Buddy Rich drumming lessons in the afterlife.

@renatosabato 7 күн бұрын

I get the idea. The example is bad though. Buddy Rich still takes him to school

@mayhemjr.803 Жыл бұрын

I love the Buddy Rich story about how he and Frank Sinatra hated each other and once almost came to blows. Rich was awesome.

@jondunmore4268 Жыл бұрын

"You kids today with your hula hoops and your miniskirts!"

@Eggtismo Жыл бұрын

@chad stengel What?

@kuzrahfan2004 Жыл бұрын

@@Eggtismo hes talkin about transgender people but i think hes misunderstanding the comment hes replying to 😭

@Eggtismo Жыл бұрын

@BlackroomFilms Oh that's super obvious now, I was pretty tired when I saw this originally. Incredibly based of him for immediately thinking of trans people when he reads miniskirts, but I have a feeling he wouldn't appreciate me implying that.

@nataliapoklonskaya4933 Жыл бұрын

@@Eggtismo no one cares that much be quiet

@Eggtismo Жыл бұрын

@Natalia Poklonskaya This conversation took place days ago and you weren't part of it. If you truly don't care, why go out of your way to reignite it?

@WilhelmWilder Жыл бұрын

He's the drum equivalent to Albert King, I adore Albert King, but oh my god the things he said about Jimi Hendrix

@HappyHermitt Жыл бұрын

It wasn't jealousy. I just believe Albert never listened to enough of Jimi.

@drdre4397 Жыл бұрын

@@HappyHermitt True but he did play with Jimi, I was listening to Blues at sunrise on the record he did with SRV and he sounds complimentary when telling SRV he'd have to play the Hendrix style because he recorded that song with Hendrix.

@jameshalbert181 Жыл бұрын

In an interview I remember Albert saying that Jimi and SRV were the only 2 that could do the Albert King bend right

@zachhill8637 Жыл бұрын

Hendrix is among the most overrated musicians of all time. In any genre. On any instrument.

@WilhelmWilder Жыл бұрын

@@zachhill8637 maybe that's your opinion but not to me, if you actually look at what people were doing before him, then what they did after, and if you look at how musicians we're racially before. And after. He completely changed everything.

@mohddalibinzali1165 9 ай бұрын

all begun with his righthand. Rich and peart like professor of drumming

@tankwfw Жыл бұрын

Never thought I'd hear Ringo Starr included with Keith Moon and John Bonham

@markwilson3026 Жыл бұрын

Bill Ward has a jazz drumming background and you hear it in Black Sabbath

@Jasper_Drummer Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I love how he incorporated that on the first couple albums. AND, he used match grip.

@dcmastermindfirst9418 Жыл бұрын

Most of the best Rock drummers started playing jazz. From Ringo starr to Dave Lombardo from Slayer. They all started playing Jazz. Get a clue.

@unwantedcracker1414 Жыл бұрын

Check out the last track on their first album it’s the jazziest/bluesiest song in their discography

@M4TT4TT4CK Жыл бұрын

So did ginger baker

@bobbycoltrane7552 Жыл бұрын

Just like with guitar you need to be raised in the blues. To make a great rock drummer or drummer in general you should have some knowledge of jazz.

@thirdand11 Жыл бұрын

“Jimi Hendrix played his guitar upside down too. That’s why Clapton hated him. “ - Buddy Rich

@colinwallace5286 Жыл бұрын

Sonny T plays left handed bass and guitar on right hand instruments that are still strung for right hand players. He never has a problem finding a guitar on short notice.🤣😂

@letsgobrandon5800 Жыл бұрын

Jimi also rightfully believed that Terry Kath was a better guitar player than he. Jimi was right. Tanglewood 25/6/4 ( 1970)

@chrismarple Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon5800 no

@leecowell8165 Жыл бұрын

he was left handed...us lefties are not well understood.

@VaterAyotte Жыл бұрын

AWESOME drummer! A legend in the truest sense of the word. But a grumpy old man.

@mattparlante6680 29 күн бұрын

Mitch Mitchell held his left hand stick jazz style. He also happened to be my favorite rock drummer.

@Memu_ Жыл бұрын

Just because you're great at something doesn't mean you always know what you're talking about

@Memu_ Жыл бұрын

@@Philrc I know but in this case he clearly doesn't knos what he is talking about despite being a legend

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

@@Philrc jesus, khasab. shut up.

@ryangrissom1948 Жыл бұрын

Buddy knew what he was talking about.

@Memu_ Жыл бұрын

@@ryangrissom1948 he really didn't

@ryangrissom1948 Жыл бұрын

@@Memu_ He really did.

@michaelmckenna9022 Ай бұрын

I like what he said about country music.

@Ascertivus Жыл бұрын

Rich probably wouldn’t have liked Neil Peart them, yet he was one of the most successful, skilled, and loved drummers of all time. Even he used matched grip.

@Vikanuck Жыл бұрын

So happy I was taught both match and traditional grips. It all depends on the crowd you’re trying to impress lol

@northernhemisphere4906 Жыл бұрын

you gotta choose to impress or to play😊

@Vikanuck Жыл бұрын

@@northernhemisphere4906 Well, you can play, and 3/10 people might love listening o you play, but sometimes even 3 people can be enough of a crowd to pump anyone up, or, you can impress, as in, make an impression upon, and play such a good show that they remember you forever… sooo, not really sure what that means lol.

@KEVBOYMUSIC Жыл бұрын

Music shouldn't be about trying to impress people

@TomBrooklyn Жыл бұрын

How so? I think most people wouldn't even know or notice which grip a drummer is using.

@Vikanuck Жыл бұрын

@@KEVBOYMUSIC You’re taking this way too literally lol. I used to have to play recitals at least once a month back in my teens, and after getting through all the beginners playing for their first time, my teacher and I would come on to play to the crowd. Often they were bored to tears by then, but sometimes they were in a good mood, and so we would choose which styles to play through, whether it was slow stuff like 6/8 or bossanova, or jazz, disco, rock, etc., and yeah, at a recital, you absolutely want to impress lol. If you’re thinking I was talking about just being in a band - I definitely was - and that’s what we did for fun. But thanks for the music ethics lesson anyway lol 🙂👍

@chrisgoudy1954 Жыл бұрын

Buddy Rich at home: “Damn kids! Get off my lawn!”

@markbell1 Жыл бұрын

You try playing Backwoods Sideman and then you are free to cast such a comment.

@garyhendrick4391 Жыл бұрын

While playing the solo in the very first clip........Rich had a heart attack and kept on playing

@bluegryp 28 күн бұрын

Charlie Watts of the Rolling Stones held his sticks like this and his jazz background was a big component of the stones sound. Highly underrated drummer.

@Pilot_the_Dune Жыл бұрын

*Thomas Lang has entered the chat*

@dcmastermindfirst9418 Жыл бұрын

Lang destroy Rich and he's played matched for decades now.

@richardtemple9292 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@GioGioPietromica425 Жыл бұрын

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I wouldn’t say he could “destroy” Buddy Rich, but he definitely proves him wrong

@fuzzylogiceire Жыл бұрын

@@GioGioPietromica425 Good example because he started off using trad grip and now only plays match cos it works better for him.

@GioGioPietromica425 Жыл бұрын

@@fuzzylogiceire yeah because it’s all about personal preference, you should only do what works for you, that’s all that matters

@granolakitti8521 Жыл бұрын

Music is many things, not only what's going on in Buddy Richs head

@Hello_there_obi Жыл бұрын

Buuuut compare ringo to this lol

@chandlermccoy1813 Жыл бұрын

@@Hello_there_obi Ringo would have the exact same level of skill if he played trad though

@5117sebastian Жыл бұрын

@@chandlermccoy1813 as much as I love ringo I have to say: that is ridiculous

@chandlermccoy1813 Жыл бұрын

@@5117sebastian It's really not at all... You are madsively overestimating traditional grip. It's not a magic grip that makes you better for no reason 😂 Plus, in the genre the Beatles are playing, Ringo wouldn't even be able to get much boon from traditional grip. He's playing slow rock beats 90% of the time... Maybe you could explain specifically how traditional grip would help him since I seem to be having a hard time understanding where you're coming from?

@5117sebastian Жыл бұрын

@@chandlermccoy1813 sorry, I think I misread what you posted before

@John-cw4no Жыл бұрын

"I'm out there tryin to do somebody a favor and you're clammin up the joint!"..Awesome

@southie3177 8 сағат бұрын

Let’s see Buddy play “ when the lever breaks “ 😂

@timlamb6196 Жыл бұрын

Later in his career Neil Peart started playing like this

@skip63 Жыл бұрын

But then switched back to matched grip. He said he couldn't get the power with the Jazz grip.

@MrGreenthumb_ Жыл бұрын

Stewart Copeland plays powerful traditional grip.

@painkillerjones6232 Жыл бұрын

I came here to comment on Peart.. Buddy Rich would have paused for thought after listening to a "Peart" drum solo...

@MrSpencerMcIntosh Жыл бұрын

@@skip63 with Rush’s music, i’m not even half surprised. 😂😂😂

@tomylee2835 Жыл бұрын

Neal switched back and forth and mainly only used traditional grip when actually playing jazz. Neal mainly played matched grip and his crossovers absolutely prove Buddy Rich wrong that you can’t move around the kit as fast.

@xImBeaST12321x Жыл бұрын

I like how he deliberately tries to not play matched grip around the kit but then realizes at the end he doesn't know what he's talking about since he was fully capable of playing matched grip at the end

@nicholaskerns1106 26 күн бұрын

RIP Buddy, you would have loved blast beats

@joedivald1051 Ай бұрын

Playing drums since he was 2. Loved watching him having a drum off with The Animal from the muppets.

@GreyerShade Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine his reaction to styles that came AFTER that though? Never say this is the ONLY way something is allowed to be done. Innovation always seems to follow someone saying that nonsense.

@tonyb.2341 Жыл бұрын

He was mad because new drummers were coming onto the scene and taking his spotlight

@TheOnyxSpy Жыл бұрын

I dunno man, Neil Peart idolized this man, and Peart is widely considered as one of the best, most technically proficient drummer to exist. He's called "The Professor" for a reason 🤷🏻

@letsgobrandon5800 Жыл бұрын

@@TheOnyxSpy the problem with Buddy is that although he was a brilliant drummer, he was also a complete and total arsehole. Look at his interviews and how he speaks of his contemporaries.

@dspsblyuth Жыл бұрын

@Topjunkie since when do The Grammys have anything to do with music?

@yannmondehard4171 Жыл бұрын

@@dspsblyuth not music but music popularity.

@yannmondehard4171 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, those drummers are overrated

@YyhggYhg7gugugu 3 күн бұрын

Same shit my old drum teacher said to me

@islay023 Жыл бұрын

He is doesn’t matter what you think he still a GOAT

@jacktorrance2633 Жыл бұрын

There can't be A g.o.a.t. only THE g.o.a.t.

@Handleoriginal12 Жыл бұрын

There’s a reason why you almost never hear anyone say that their favorite drummer is buddy rich.

@Dunkaroos248 Жыл бұрын

I do…but they are all 60 and above still living in the 70’s

@ratamahatta5306 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, because you're not even born yet

@Handleoriginal12 Жыл бұрын

@@ratamahatta5306 my age or date of birth has nothing to do with it. Buddy rich is a good drummer but there were so many black drummers who were forgotten despite having massive impacts on jazz. Buddy rich is a household name because he market himself. He was a good drummer but he was not the drumming messiah as many claim. I personally prefer Larnell and Nate Smith.

@tonsaracc8197 Жыл бұрын

except ALL the greats ...

@ryancox5097 Жыл бұрын

What?! Every Baby Boomer-era white guy in America thinks the man farts rainbows. Buddy, Peart and John Bonham are pretty much the holy trinity of drumming for hobbyists and intermediate players.

@ajbowen9371 Жыл бұрын

I like that their illustrative clip of Ginger shows him using traditional grip

@teranceblake4196 Жыл бұрын

Yes and Bingham & Starr also would use this grip. Kind of negates Buddy Rich’s authority as a great drummer since he can’t see past the technical differences to understand the creativity.

@sidhenihilist Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that in the second clip Buddy is using the match grip he was bitching about.

@UriBlack Жыл бұрын

Sir played the intro too Scooby Doo 🤣🤣

@Eddie-ym1vq Жыл бұрын

I got to see Buddy Rich. He is a legend as a jazz drummer and could hang with any modern day drummer.

@joeheinsch4334 Жыл бұрын

And then Jeff porcaro came along and did his thing and he provided match grip is deadly on the kit

@ROCKNROLLFAN Жыл бұрын

I loved the way that he worked and maneuvered the hi hat with traditional grip and the more that I keep practicing, I'm getting more and more comfortable with traditional grip.

@tonyneville476 Жыл бұрын

I grew up playing drums exactly like Buddy Rich but over time 20-30 years later I went to match grip and double bass I taught my left hand everything my right hand knew. I can still play rolls like using concert grip and incorporated that to match grip. Also playing cymbals with match grip my left hand can do cymbal accents and drum accents while my right hand plays ride cymbal. Yes Buddy you were right, but you were also wrong. I still love playing Jazz match grip And before I forget, Buddy didn’t change positioning of his snare drum, but I did to accommodate the match grip. I began playing drums in 1964 and I still play drums today

@Thinkforyourselvz Жыл бұрын

Next minute amazing match grip drummers there’s a place for all and just enjoy no matter what your level and how you hold the sticks, it’s evolution baby.

@edwardruiz5515 Жыл бұрын

Times have changed dude 😎

@lexdiluca1221 Жыл бұрын

this is a very calm version of Buddy Rich talking about how to play music... wait until you hear the bus tapes lol 😭😭

@CapoKabar 5 күн бұрын

This is still the best way to learn drums regardless of what anyone says. Sure, you can switch it up for rock but you wont last long in jazz without this technique. Buddy is damn right--when it comes to jazz

@ShrinkRaptor Жыл бұрын

Plenty of videos exist of Buddy playing matched grip.

@cbot72 Жыл бұрын

Traditional grip originated when drummer Boys in the military had to play kinda diagonal because of the way their drum hung on them. With a drum kit, holding them that way is kind of anachronistic

@RjBenjamin353 Жыл бұрын

YES! WE KNOW!! WE KNOW!!!!

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

Nice word.

@davidluftig2751 Жыл бұрын

Stewart Copeland from the Police was KILLING it with a traditional grip in the 70s

@IrrealElbarto Жыл бұрын

Copeland doesn’t play traditional grip. Traditional grip calls for the left index and middle fingers to go under the stick. Copeland holds the stick with only the index finger. Seems like a petty difference, but he’s explained it allows him to play louder. I tried it years ago and can confirm. That unique grip may also explain why Copeland has had so many injuries.

@andy_travis Жыл бұрын

YAWN.

@ElvisTranscriber2 Жыл бұрын

@@andy_travis Alberto Bejarano offers a great explanation... . *your contribution of yawning is useless* ... and Im going to add some video links for people to see Copeland's technique 😁 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbd3oMSIvqmYf3k.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6hmaMJ0u8jTXWQ.html

@brocki95xxx Жыл бұрын

Weckl played traditional and hit pretty hard.

@stephensuddick1896 Ай бұрын

Charlie knew ALL of that.

@pablorosario5232 Жыл бұрын

That’s why I love rock, if it sounds and feels good then fuck it

@fasteddiews1969 Жыл бұрын

Buddy Rich was easily the Greatest Drummer of all time hands down. 🥁 True Greatness

@danbardos3498 Жыл бұрын

No he was just a pioneer. A great pioneer yes; but can was please stop with the "greatest ever" labels please!?!

@tonycapko4899 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! ❤

@suryapanditi3161 Жыл бұрын

It’s entirely subjective who the greatest drummer is, and there is certainly nobody who is “easily” the greatest drummer of all time

@fasteddiews1969 Жыл бұрын

@@suryapanditi3161 It's only one person's opinion. it really doesn't mean all that much, And you don't have to agree

@blastfromthepast8344 Жыл бұрын

Greatest jazz and big band drummer.

@christhut8140 Жыл бұрын

"Back in my day..."

@tonycapko4899 Жыл бұрын

An absolute legend and a natural born phenomenon behind the drums the likes of which we’ll never see again. The reality of it is he played a lot of matched grip and used it better then anyone.

@dandavis4220 Жыл бұрын

HE FOLLOWED THRU A PERFORMANCE WHILE HAVING A HEART ATTACK!!!...

@righteousdescent2271 Жыл бұрын

give this guy his credit guys, he is one the greatest drummers of all time for a reason

@olderthanyoucali8512 Жыл бұрын

Others would beg to differ!

@hulkjelly6876 Ай бұрын

"You can't play trumpet with puffed cheeks." Dizzy Gillespie: "Hold my beer. "

@skipwilliam5639 Жыл бұрын

Greatest drummer of all time to me Neil Pert a close second ..But what Buddy could do with what he had amazed me

@philipberthiaume2314 Жыл бұрын

Buddy Rich against Animal on the muppets in the 1970's. Classic.

@dk-bw4gk Жыл бұрын

I was just going to mention this. First time I saw Buddy Rich was on the Muppet Show when I was like 8 or so (mid 80s). I remember him walking around and "drumming" all over the goofy crap on the walls and stuff.

@brocki95xxx Жыл бұрын

It isn’t really all that musical though.

@philipperiopel1911 Жыл бұрын

Everyone has their own drumming thechnic.

@peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube Жыл бұрын

Everytime he does that the way kids do it today I kept hearing that old tv shows song Hawaii 5-0 especially the second tome he did it either way I’m getting surf 🏄‍♀️ vibes

@ladevinwashington1251 Жыл бұрын

The world is changing buddy rich everything can't stay the same 💯🤷🏾‍♂️

@thirdand11 Жыл бұрын

“Those drummers that were more famous and worth more money than me didn’t know what they were doing, and the people listening to them playing didn’t know what they were listening to.” - Buddy Rich

@RockyTop85 Жыл бұрын

Epitome of arrogance

@allanyoung4435 Жыл бұрын

They didn't have more money than him. Most of those guys were badly in debt to their labels

@Ouhayottoko Жыл бұрын

Man’s couldn’t accept they were just better

@jakobchristiansson Жыл бұрын

@@Ouhayottoko better might not be the case. But that still doesn't excuse being such a gatekeeper about it. Music is first and foremost a form of artistic expression - there is a "science" behind it, but to say that there is a right and a wrong way to express yourself (through music) is misguided and petty. Hold the sticks with your buttcheeks if that's what you prefer - just because you can play the same things faster, doesn't make it any more "right".

@bigvrocks2480 Жыл бұрын

Buddy didn't realize that the 'POP' record buying public from the late 50's forward, did not really care how good the musicians were, if they like the song. I was a drummer. Buddy could play more in one song than I played in a set, however, I still got complements from fellow musicians and people in the audience.

@Outdoorcookwarereviews Жыл бұрын

Animal was the only drummer to give Buddy a run for his money

@bramleydragon Жыл бұрын

Yes, that was the late Ronnie Verrell who played Animal's drum part. Rich was a hero of Verrell's but Rich did admit the respect was mutual.

@DarkMatterX1 Жыл бұрын

Animal's guest appearance with Slayer was one of the band's best shows.

@ShelleyLevyMusic Ай бұрын

Man they say never meet your hero’s they will only let you down

@darrenfarrell-bn2cb 43 минут бұрын

I’m a Drummer 40 years , There is as Many Styles as there is people, Jimmy Hendrix played left handed on upside down set of strings, Charlie watts of the Rolling Stones had the most unorthodox style of a straight beat ever Known but it sounded fantastic,