How IEMs are BETTER than over-ear headphones!

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The Headphone Show

The Headphone Show

Күн бұрын

The original spicy video about how IEMs are worse: • How in-ears are OBJECT...
Check out Super Review's response here, which we'll fight about... but watch it anyway and tell Mark I said hi: • Objectively WORSE!?
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00:00 - Intro
01:37 - Such incredible benefits to IEMs
02:16 - Reason 1: Cheaper to make
03:11 - Reason 2: Positional variation
05:19 - Reason 3: IEMs are easier to tune
06:35 - Reason 4: More detail?
07:00 - What would I choose?

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@NoHairMan
@NoHairMan 3 ай бұрын
I don't have any issues with "headphone hair" because u know...
@JohnClarkW
@JohnClarkW 3 ай бұрын
Username checks out
@user-gh7uw9vn4o
@user-gh7uw9vn4o 3 ай бұрын
You have cancer and lost all your hair?
@GoufinAround_
@GoufinAround_ 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss. Unless you don’t care in which case, hell yeah lol
@NoHairMan
@NoHairMan 3 ай бұрын
@@GoufinAround_ oh I don't care, just tried to make a bad joke by leaning on Resolve's joke form the video. Maybe I should've have added a "😂"
@GoufinAround_
@GoufinAround_ 3 ай бұрын
@@NoHairMan I got what you meant I did the same bad joke thing lmfao
@ImAWSMDanny
@ImAWSMDanny 3 ай бұрын
Unrelated to my marriage, could you also do a video on why audio gear is a better investment than a college fund or retirement savings? Please and thanks.
@icicle1029
@icicle1029 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting to see a video talking about when diminishing returns hit for both iems and headphones, and at what price points headphones start to supercede iems and for what reasons.
@taidee
@taidee 3 ай бұрын
I agree, for example for me I just feel like when I hit kilo buck level then I might as well move to headphones.
@saucyg6371
@saucyg6371 3 ай бұрын
Imo it’s $1200 USD for both. Sure there are minimal gains going from $500->$1000 or say $200->500, but there are still gains that are noticeable. Whether that’s 10% or merely 5%. However to me, you have to start looking for differences past $1200.
@gimmickmusic8827
@gimmickmusic8827 3 ай бұрын
There really isn't any, at least not when I last saw this brought up a year or two ago by someone on Reddit. Oratory1990 actually made a post on reddit talking about it. There is like a 1% correlation between price and measurable quality in the IEM and headphone space. There are $80 powerhouses as well as $2000 weak offerings that don't even outperform $80 options.
@rokhamler3352
@rokhamler3352 3 ай бұрын
For me the next big (and almost certainly final) step up will be getting custom iems - fit and seal is a big issue for me on universal IEMs, i just have ear canals that quickly twist upwards, which blocks up rubber ear tips, or makes them fall out and despite having very decent hearing, i notice it just doesn't matter if the FR of iems is not even that amazing. I like to listen to stuff while on the go, while working on other stuff and surrounded by noise, so that will spoil the pristine sound of any high-end IEMs.
@sharcare5167
@sharcare5167 3 ай бұрын
the point of diminishing returns tends to happen at the price you can longer afford or justify to yourself. That's the area you are going to land on.
@sidesaladaudio
@sidesaladaudio 3 ай бұрын
2:10 clearly the best feature that IEMs have over headphones
@marksr12
@marksr12 3 ай бұрын
I live in a warm climate...IEMs are way better than headphone ear muffs! All my headphones have been collecting dust since I got in to CHI FI. Even during our very mild winter its been IEMs. Always enjoy your videos, Thanks!
@juanblanco7898
@juanblanco7898 3 ай бұрын
The insides of my ears get sweaty and ear wax becomes softer and more liquid/oily (pardon me) in warm temperatures. This makes me highly anxious about moisture related damage to my IEMs. Doesn't that happen to you?
@marksr12
@marksr12 3 ай бұрын
I sweat at the drop of a hat! I can't comment on ear wax problems as I have no problems so far. As far as wearing them when I do outdoor activities, that's where my budget IEMS come into play.
@TheRebelLion13
@TheRebelLion13 3 ай бұрын
i watched that video in its entirety and i learned a lot from it. I am an IEM guy, and i when i first saw the title, instead of feeling offended, i thought "ok, let's hear what he has to say...". And i thought you made very good and valid points because it was all based on factual stuff such as the structure of the human ear. But also, when you got to the part where you started discussing the advantages of IEMs over on-ears, i'm like "cool". In a hobby that is mostly subjective, i think people who have become too subjective(even to the point of being hyper-sensitive about it) and too "preferential", miss out and lose out on the few objective things of this hobby that they can really learn something from, which would actually help them enjoy this hobby more. Bottom-line is , IEMs and head-phones each have their own pros and cons, their own limitations, strengths and weaknesses, and whatnot. It's an objective fact. One just has to accept that and learn to appreciate IEMs and headphones for what they each can do; just appreciate each for what it is. It doesn't have to be a "Vs" all the time; it doesn't have to be a competition. It doesn't need to be. This hobby is about enjoying music, and not "This Vs. That". And instead of throwing hissy fits and temper tantrums, why don't we, the community, instead keep an eye and call out the brands who try to sell "snake-oil" products, and are just trying to screw the hobby community out of their hard earned money; this issue, which we have a good number of, with IEMs. Good videos, by the way, Andrew 👍 👍 i learned a lot from the first one, and enjoyed watching that; just as i did this one too.
@zerotactix5739
@zerotactix5739 3 ай бұрын
As one person pointed out, in hot countries like mine, headphones are so inconvenient unless I have the AC on the whole day, which is too expensive in my country. The headband, ear pads peel off , and it just startd looking way too old way too soon. Iems look as good as new since 2 years since I've been using them.
@benjamenYTDeadTheGamer
@benjamenYTDeadTheGamer 3 ай бұрын
How hot is it where you live?
@karsten.boethling
@karsten.boethling 3 ай бұрын
How much do you need to spend?
@DrinkWater713
@DrinkWater713 11 күн бұрын
@@benjamenYTDeadTheGamer Doesn't have to be THAT hot. 30 celsius already makes it impossible to wear headphones
@traviswilliams4994
@traviswilliams4994 3 ай бұрын
I bit the bullet last year and bought some custom fit IEMs and I will never go back. I never liked IEMs because I could never get a consistent fit! But custom IEMs and a friggin revelation! The fit is almost always perfect and they sound sooooooooo good. Cannot recommend more!
@Size10Soles
@Size10Soles 3 ай бұрын
Where to buy custom iem?
@dbean5174
@dbean5174 2 ай бұрын
@@Size10Solesmany companies offer custom IEMs. You will just need to get either physical ear impressions or STL 3D scan files and send them to the place your purchasing from.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 ай бұрын
GM ☕️❄️ They EACH bring something to the party 🎉 IEM’s are intrusive..not everyone likes ( or takes time to get used to them) Headphones are more “approachable..ease of and instinctual usability . As for sound ..IEM’s beat headphones. Good headphones cost more that IEM’s to match performance. Great video and honest take .
@rokhamler3352
@rokhamler3352 3 ай бұрын
IEMs are very intrusive when you don't have a good fit & seal, because you have to then mash em' into your ear canals
@rene837
@rene837 3 ай бұрын
Could you make a list/ranking of your favourite IEMs like the one you already have for headphones?
@JohnClarkW
@JohnClarkW 3 ай бұрын
You mention headphone hair, but left off that they trap heat. I got into IEMs when I lived in LA. For all day wear, you are nuts to do that with headphones in anything but cold weather. The value for entry level IEMs is insane.
@rokhamler3352
@rokhamler3352 3 ай бұрын
And long IEM use throughout the day, day in day out, will trap the ear wax in your ear canals. Perhaps that is not that much of a problem for people living in hot and dry places though. Gotta be diligent about cleaning out your ears and asking your doc to occasionally look in there and maybe clean em out
@rokhamler3352
@rokhamler3352 3 ай бұрын
Also the moisture from your ears gunks up the filters on IEM nozzles, cleaning and eventually replacing those is a bother
@MorriganJade
@MorriganJade 3 ай бұрын
I saw a few comments, and OMG... Some people genuinely don't watch a video, immediately comment, and then probably leave as well. What are they there for? Getting up votes, in a need of approval kinda way? Anyway... Recently I've become more of an IEM person simply because I'm quite easily satisfied when they have a good tuning, and my preference is more towards imaging than sound stage. And since I'm neurodivergent, I realize that sound isolation helps far more for me than open backed headphones, in regards to sensitivity of overstimulation. At a cheaper price point too. Without getting any other sensory issues. Including when it comes to immersion. Since I can't filter sound, the less I hear outside noise, the more my mind shuts off and can focus entirely on the media at hand. The only true downside of iems, in my opinion is earwax management. And I call it management, as it's inevitable
@briantooze3415
@briantooze3415 3 ай бұрын
I have still not found an IEM that I can wear for long listening periods but I don't have any comfort issue with my headphones.
@eruilluvitar
@eruilluvitar 3 ай бұрын
I'm in a similar boat, but the IE200/300/600/900 form factor is the best I've found, if that helps at all
@shinythings7
@shinythings7 3 ай бұрын
Also plus one on the ie200/300/600/900 form factor. I can't wear most iems to bed, but I can with these.
@DragonWhisper14
@DragonWhisper14 3 ай бұрын
Lol I see others have had same experience as me, my ie200 iems are the only ones that are truly comfy for me
@zrad09
@zrad09 3 ай бұрын
Have you tried changing the eartips? It could be that the ones you're using are too big for your ears
@briantooze3415
@briantooze3415 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the suggestions. I have tried a range of tips and sizes. Most of my IEMs (but not all) have been chi-fi but I do intend to try the Sennheiser IE range soon.
@xyliss
@xyliss 3 ай бұрын
This video nailed the biggest key point no on talks about. Headphone hair is real.
@proffessasvids
@proffessasvids 3 ай бұрын
I'm mostly interested in staging, so iem's will never satisfy me, unfortunately. I will say that due to the tiny physical dimensions of iem drivers and their extremely low MMS.. it is not difficult to design the waveguides to have extremely low levels of higher order modes and the drivers themselves, to be extremely fast. The theoretical resolution of such tiny drivers is way above that of your average over ear driver. Excellent vid! as per usual😉. Thankyou dude xx
@davidbarbour5153
@davidbarbour5153 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am a total IEM noobie here and i did try an IEM which sounded far better than through my wireless bluetooth Bose headphones. I listen to music via my samsung galaxy note 9 mobile , using spotify to stream. Is there any advantage in buying a portable DAC to use in this set up please ? thanks in anticipation.
@therishabhdhiman
@therishabhdhiman Ай бұрын
I have bought a DAC but I see no noticeable difference even after playing some super high resolution Audio. There is no point in buying a portable DAC.
@user-zz3fd7tl7r
@user-zz3fd7tl7r 3 ай бұрын
I really love the Hexa's tuning i might consider getting another pair
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Ай бұрын
They're good, but still not as cohesive as say HD600's. But I think that's just IEM bypassing the ear.. Etymotic sounds more natural to me as well, er2sr is probably the most neutrally tuned of the bunch. The studio editions.. they're actually less neutral sounding.
@GadZookz
@GadZookz 3 ай бұрын
How about a Resolve / Super Review collab on a product called the Chimearian which has an over ear headphone for the right ear and an IEM the left? In a year or so they could release the Chimearian SE with would have the respective ears reversed. 🙂
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 3 ай бұрын
This is a good idea.
@schit4brainz
@schit4brainz 3 ай бұрын
My Hexa arrive tomorrow after weeks of watching videos and researching. Thanks to you and others I feel I have made an informed decision and will experience little to no buyer's remorse.
@calvinyip364
@calvinyip364 3 ай бұрын
What about the Chopin? How does it sound?
@EastPlanet
@EastPlanet 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's great to have at least 1 pair of each because both iems and headphones have their advantages. Also, tell DMS I'll bake him cookies if we get that 490 review soon
@TheHEADPHONEShow
@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 ай бұрын
He's working on it! Get the cookies ready!
@EastPlanet
@EastPlanet 3 ай бұрын
Yay! I'm on it
@AliArghavan
@AliArghavan 3 ай бұрын
Which headphones use electrical filter for bass shelf?
@SuperReview
@SuperReview 3 ай бұрын
Auribus Acoustics uses them.
@deevnn
@deevnn 3 ай бұрын
My right ear canal has never been able to be fitted so that it doesn't lose the seal...custom made IEM fitment is too expensive and after an hour or two IEM's are uncomfortable for me.
@RRgaming2322
@RRgaming2322 3 ай бұрын
I own a pair of meze audio Advar and I prefer them over any headphone. Incredible
@RX-rd4sc
@RX-rd4sc 3 ай бұрын
I want to know your take on denon d7200 please
@papabear123bates8
@papabear123bates8 19 күн бұрын
What’s the best IEMs for highly competitive gaming?
@Masterkiller293
@Masterkiller293 3 ай бұрын
I would like to know about soundstage and imaging with IEMs. I imagine everything sounds way more intimate and narrow, but I could be wrong. Interested in trying IEMs at some point. I play lots of games, so I wonder if they'd work well. I also listen to lots of music. Knowing they can be more detailed than even the best headphones is pretty exciting.
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai 3 ай бұрын
More intimate. But, imaging and precision can be great. What's your budget?
@Masterkiller293
@Masterkiller293 3 ай бұрын
@@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai Like $100. I love intimate soundstage for music at least. Glad to hear imaging should be good too.
@zerotactix5739
@zerotactix5739 3 ай бұрын
I'm a gamer primarily, and a casual music listener. I have the Simgot EM6L and Tangzu Fudu. The Tangzu Sancai tips that come with the Fudu iems work amazingly well on both these IEMs. The Fudu has more bass and probably slightly more fun because of it, and the EM6L shows off more micro details in busy games like The Finals where a lot of buildings are crumbling down for example. I previously had the DT770s and HD599. I packed both my headphones away. Soundstage is quite different on iems. It's intimate in theory yes, but since it goes in your ear, it feels like things are enveloping Around your head rather than sounding away from your head. You still get a good sense of 3d space with any iems that review to have good imaging. And yeah, you can pin point where sound cues are coming from. The biggest hindrance for me initially was trying to figure out what eartips and size fit me right. And I wasn't even sure if I was wearing them right. With time i came to know that the most important thing is comfortable tips and seal. Tangzu Sancai tips on Fudu and EM6L work great. Just make sure you got the right size picked. If it's your first iems, try out the cheap 20$ ones so you know what kind of experience your getting. Get either the Salnotes Zeroes v1 or v2 or Chu 2 or Tangzu Waner.
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 3 ай бұрын
The lack of soundstage, imaging, and dynamics is a deal breaker for me with IEMs. I've demoed IEMs in the summitfi category that have these characteristics, but why spend so much for that when it can be had for much cheaper with headphones.
@zerotactix5739
@zerotactix5739 3 ай бұрын
@@chungang7037 what did you really demo? It is common knowledge by now that under 100-150$, you're much better off with iems than headphones. On the upper end, headphones take the lead.
@mailsibul
@mailsibul 3 ай бұрын
Aune AR5000 review when ?
@madant7777
@madant7777 3 ай бұрын
I would wear IEMs only if I have to, never because I want to. Also, I own the Audeze Maxwell (wifi/BT closeback planar magnetic) and they are great as a complete package, not just great sound.
@Kawartha65
@Kawartha65 3 ай бұрын
After I saw your first video … I absolutely knew there would be blow back! The truth is IEMS are becoming real contenders, no way around it.
@nickglover
@nickglover 2 ай бұрын
Some of my issues are likely specific to me because of sensory issues and an abnormally large head, but DCA headphones are basically the only headphones I have found to be comfortable for long periods of time. That's not necessarily a problem, but they all use leather pads and they definitely get warm over time. You'd think IEMs would be a perfect choice then, and I do like my IE300s, but I find the process of inserting an IEM annoying and they always seem to be slipping out. That plus I hate how I can really hear myself breathe when wearing IEMs, the cable on my ear gets uncomfortable over time, and at least with the IE300s the way they are ported leads to specifically irritating outside sounds leaking through. I may try some others, but the first two issues don't leave me a lot of hope.
@mrvvvvl
@mrvvvvl 3 ай бұрын
I was wondering for a while, what microphone he's using?
@subbybass1432
@subbybass1432 3 ай бұрын
If it's the same from other videos Electro-Voice RE20
@mrvvvvl
@mrvvvvl 3 ай бұрын
@@subbybass1432 Thanks.
@wsy2569
@wsy2569 3 ай бұрын
Just spent 2 x 2 hour visits to E-earphones in Tokyo! Listened tovevey IEM they had there. In my opinion, The fitup of the ear tips is paramount to the Sound of an iem given its state of tuning! What I heard at e-earphones tell me that IEM price does not equate to better sound . Some IEMs were 300,000 yen to 600,000 yen and some 150000 yen iems bettered the more expensive iems Preferetial tuning appeal to different people .. reviews are only good as guidance!! U hv to test drive the iem personally to know its Sound
@SatyamBage
@SatyamBage 2 ай бұрын
Truthear hexa or Simgot EA500 LM?
@ant_crl26711
@ant_crl26711 3 ай бұрын
Whats the best iem under 100€ with a balanced frequency response?
@Sherolox
@Sherolox 3 ай бұрын
The Truthear Hexa honestly comes pretty much as close as you'd get to that description for under 100€. (We use €, too where I live, so I'm familiar with pricing.) Just be aware that a somewhat common point of critique for the Hexa is the lack of bass impact, being a lot less pronounced than other sets. Though, that may be in favor of the balanced tuning.
@ant_crl26711
@ant_crl26711 3 ай бұрын
@@Sherolox thank you!
@warth45
@warth45 3 ай бұрын
7hz sonus
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 3 ай бұрын
Maintenance is also a thing. Good headphones' earpads, headband foam, etc. are a lot more costlier and don't last as long as for example good silicon eartips. (foams is a different story though). imo right now iems are the way to go. Chifi has so many very good options and the value is becoming increasingly good. Maybe soon headphones will follow as there are more brands (chifi) coming into the game like Moondrop, Fiio, etc. but right now iems rule. The other side of the coin is that the problem is really where to start and what to choose. There are so many of them, and so many being launched at a ridiculous pace... Maybe just wait for sales season (there are a lot) and go for the one that offers the better value at that point.
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai 3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@crispiestcrouton1643
@crispiestcrouton1643 3 ай бұрын
True but some iems like etymotics or moondrop arias require filter maintenance as well
@TareqASamra
@TareqASamra 3 ай бұрын
While there are no consumables for iems in accessories. There is one thing to mention for IEMs. Eventually, a good chance people will need a Hearing Aid earwax vacuum to clean the IEM nozzle when it ends up getting plugged by earwax. Sellers like to sell that lil brush for such things, but a good chance if may push in the wax further than brush it off. What I mean to say is, there is some level of maintenance for IEMs.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 3 ай бұрын
@@crispiestcrouton1643 haven't had issues, but even still filters are much much cheaper.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 3 ай бұрын
@@TareqASamra i didn't actually mean the level of maintenance but more the cost. It's true that happens, but not that often. Much like lots of people who wear glasses don't use headphones, if you produce a lot of wax or have alergies maybe you want to scratch the iem option. I wouldn't say that's very common though. Some people also complain about some iems accumulating sweat. I use iems for quite some years now and haven't had either of those issues.
@hokagoteatimereviews
@hokagoteatimereviews 3 ай бұрын
I sweat a lot and just can't wear headphones at all. So iems it is, also portability of the items is a big reason.
@exp2745
@exp2745 3 ай бұрын
"[IEMs] even have cartoon children on the boxes." Amazing, truly incredible.
@sander373
@sander373 2 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with iems is the sound stage and sound accuracy esp in video games. Footsteps sound terrible compared to headsets. Can't pinpoint exactly where they are. Only time i use iems is if i listen to music and if i have to switch back and forth for gaming audio to music audio i might as well just get better headsets. I've only used moondrops and shure for iems if you got any to recommend but I'm probably not going to get my hopes up.
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai
@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai 3 ай бұрын
Ayyyy! You made the other side of the coin! 🤟🤟
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 ай бұрын
I personally like the isolation of IEMs as most good headphones are open back.
@Sintrania
@Sintrania 3 ай бұрын
I think the different between IEMs and Headphone depend on the price bracket. you can get $20 IEMs that sound amazing out of the box, you can't do that with headphone. even at $200 most Headphone would be 'alright' rather than 'amazing'. so when you really put your money for sound quality IEMs are budget friendly option, also easy to drive so you don't have to spend another $300~500 on a system just some dongle or Fiio BTR5 is good enough.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Ай бұрын
Yeah, the blon 03 was that for me. That being said, there's a lot of junk IEM's.. with jank tuning. Gotta do your research
@Sintrania
@Sintrania Ай бұрын
@@mikafoxx2717 true as a consumer it is only right to do research for the best product that fit you, that being said too much people believe reviewer too much these day. For me I settle on the truthear zero red, very nice bass and mid perfect for most music.
@StarBuccaneers168
@StarBuccaneers168 3 ай бұрын
When's Delta airline earbuds are god tier?
@taidee
@taidee 3 ай бұрын
You won't find any hair on me Andrew, none on my head 🤣. Yeah I'm more on IEM use for the points you make, more refined sound at lower prices, etc. The most for me is that in my house we need to keep the noise down for the kids to study, and since I have no hair, in winter I wear a beanie so IEMs are a natural tool for listening under these conditions, besides their being extremely portable for when I take a walk or exercise.
@mohamadanas6203
@mohamadanas6203 3 ай бұрын
I love IEM and speaker. I kinda find it hard to find a good budget headphone(bad frequency response, bad sound, bad build quality, uncomfortable after 1 hour++). But i can find very good budget IEM and speaker which is worth it price.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Ай бұрын
Pretty much HD600's or something for just good headphones, but yeah. At higher price points headphones eek out more, but for 20 or 60 bucks no headphone can beat an iem..
@mohamadanas6203
@mohamadanas6203 Ай бұрын
@@mikafoxx2717 Yeah, chinese companies tried to make some budget headphone(moondrop, thieaudio, fiio), but their headphone not worth the money. The sound still 'mid'. Below average sound quality
@classicalthrasher
@classicalthrasher 3 ай бұрын
I am no part of any HD600 cult, but despite them being *relatively* affordable, I find that even good dynamic driver IEMs cannot match its sound-not talking graphs, but the way it sounds outmatches many of our very good sounding IEMs. Even much pricier ones. So better measurements are possible at a lower budget, but not necessarily a better ultimate sound (not being contrarian, I think the gentleman would agree.) However, IEMs have their own "headsound" I also enjoy-and I have plenty of both. I do not mind BA or planar timbre at all, but they all do sound different, so I feel the old dynamic driver headphone can still be amazing even if more cumbersome/less portable. In short, many ways to enjoy one's music. Not one must be better than the other. No offense intended.
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 3 ай бұрын
How dare you suggest any gear sounds different from the measurements! 😉
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Ай бұрын
Yeah.. closest might be Etymotic er2sr or something.. but it's hard to get perfectly neutral and natural in an iem.
@DrinkWater713
@DrinkWater713 11 күн бұрын
Even a sub $100 IEM can easily sound better than the HD600. The thing is decades old...
@classicalthrasher
@classicalthrasher 11 күн бұрын
@@DrinkWater713 Prove it (do not accept-it can't be proved.) Also try to do it apples for apples if possible. Wages in Ireland are also higher than in some countries as well-never forget that. By chance was listening to the HD600 yesterday after weeks using a great and more expensive IEM, and it reminded me of how lovely and uniquely special the old classic sounds. It really is timeless, and still hard to beat. I do not use it all the time, but outdated it is not.
@DrinkWater713
@DrinkWater713 11 күн бұрын
@@classicalthrasher I don't think the HD600 is outdated as a headphone, just that IEMs are cheaper to make and have improved MASSIVELY in the last few years due to the chi-fi market. BTW, what do you mean by better? Because we can even just take, for example, an objective criteria such as sub-bass alone as evidence that plenty IEMs can beat the HD600.
@theodorezurla496
@theodorezurla496 3 ай бұрын
Both videos super controversial titles, but super informative content 👍
@ChrisLightbulb
@ChrisLightbulb 2 ай бұрын
You missed that headphones can overheat your ears, and with wired headphones you have to deal with a heavier cable or two. You have a much thinner/lighter single cable with IEMs or no cable with Bluetooth IEMs.
@johnosam4681
@johnosam4681 19 күн бұрын
Honestly i agree with this, i bought an expensive sony headphones previously and it aounded good but when a tried entry level iem 1/8 of its price, it sounded better 😢
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird 3 ай бұрын
2:09 You jest, but I do appreciate when, for a change, a personal amusement device has at least some more individuality than a box of nails. I may agree that their designs could be less superficial, and more actually thematic and thought-out (anthropomorphic mascots are a massive genre in itself), but... child steps, child steps.
@W3llpladLol
@W3llpladLol 3 ай бұрын
You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the sith, not join them!
@calderondy
@calderondy Ай бұрын
I like headphones on gaming for fps it has better imanging and soundstage I can pinpoint much easier
@agasuo2673
@agasuo2673 3 ай бұрын
If my budget is unlimited i would go for headphones, but sadly i dont have that 😢 so iem is the way to go
@HobbyTalk
@HobbyTalk 3 ай бұрын
I think we all know what I’m about to comment… Meteor the GOAT fr fr no cap ong
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 3 ай бұрын
straight up bus drivin'
@TheHEADPHONEShow
@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 ай бұрын
nocapcansfrfr.com/
@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252
@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252 3 ай бұрын
I am not a IEM user but will assume that they are superior with artificial head recordings,(because we only want pinnae once) and over ear headphones are superior superior with other types of recordings. Greetings from Denmark
@laika25
@laika25 2 ай бұрын
Tune my IEMs??? Crazyyyyyy
@t1daljpg
@t1daljpg 3 ай бұрын
So just to get this straight… no fistfight with Super Review at CanJam?
@emeryt998
@emeryt998 3 ай бұрын
april fool video idea. Present that you will now do measurment of headphones with different wigs.
@blue6point62
@blue6point62 3 ай бұрын
Wow, my experience is exactly the opposite. My experience with IEM is constantly messing with the fit and if lucky 10% of the time it finally sounds right and then I get interrupted and have to take them out. My headphones sound amazing 100% of the time.
@shadowsteppah
@shadowsteppah 3 ай бұрын
iems itch my ear after 20 minutes, this has been a problem for the past year with different sets. The rubber thingies are never perfect and they make my ear sweat and itch.
@Wizzardus
@Wizzardus 3 ай бұрын
I have yet to find an iem that fits my ears ... so big nope :/
@traildoggy
@traildoggy 26 күн бұрын
Still trying to solve the comfort issue. I can rarely wear an iem for more than 20 or 30 minutes without it becoming extremely uncomfortable.
@DrinkWater713
@DrinkWater713 11 күн бұрын
What do you mean by uncomfortable? What do you feel?
@traildoggy
@traildoggy 11 күн бұрын
@@DrinkWater713 either itching or excess pressure in my ear canals depending on the set. In order to get a fit that is tight enough to seal outside sounds it seems like I never quite can forget about them. Maybe I have small ear canals, but even the small tips are difficult for me and I haven't found any medium or large tips that work. Even though they are larger, I find it far easier to 'forget' that I am wearing headphones than iem's. Second issue for me is I'd like something with good ANC for sleeping that is tiny enough not to notice, I sleep on my side and haven't found any that don't put extra pressure into the ear laying on a pillow. I've even had a few where the touch controls would activate from pressure on the pillow.
@DrinkWater713
@DrinkWater713 11 күн бұрын
@@traildoggy Not a good idea to sleep with IEMs. You may destroy them accidentally. Look, as I see it, your problems come from the tip material (your skin may be sensitive to some materials) and the venting (it eliminates the pressure inside your ears) of your IEMs. You need to try different tip materials, such as foam, and buy an IEM with good venting, then there should be no itching and no pressure inside your ears. Also, a part of it may just simply getting used to using them for a long time.
@LinhoDemos
@LinhoDemos 3 ай бұрын
Headphone hair is actually "the" reason I decided to try out IEMs and stick with them.
@randomguy4616
@randomguy4616 3 ай бұрын
Don't worry guys, we still got cartoon children waifus on the box with Moondrop's headphones
@christopherviers8302
@christopherviers8302 3 ай бұрын
Dude...!!! I hate to be the one who tells you, but... the last thing you need to worry about is 'headphone hair'...!!! I enjoyed both of your headephones vs. IEMs reviews...!!! I will stick to my personal mantra - Headphones for home... IEMs for 'on the move'...
@kwokyingcheng699
@kwokyingcheng699 3 ай бұрын
One more point: I don't wear headphones during summer times because it's so hot here that, when I finish listening, both pads will be drenched with sweat.
@GrandHeresiarch
@GrandHeresiarch 27 күн бұрын
IEMs in the warmer 6 months, headphones in the colder 6 months. That's my rule.
@dangerzone007
@dangerzone007 3 ай бұрын
And headphones can get hot. Wearing headphones in the Queensland heat and humidity just gives you a sweaty head and ear infections.
@dangerzone007
@dangerzone007 3 ай бұрын
Unless they are KSC 75
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool 3 ай бұрын
and you think that blocking ear canal by sticking IEM there keeps ear healthy? keeping all the heat going thru ears out blocked 🤣
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr 3 ай бұрын
Oh man! You caved to super asterisk reviews reaction video so quickly 😂 Click bait fight! Click bait fight! Click bait fight!
@TheMaurob1979
@TheMaurob1979 3 ай бұрын
This is a response to "super review video"
@marcusnz232
@marcusnz232 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never yet found any iem that is comfortable, doesn’t have annoying microphonic cables and - most annoying of all - hearing my heartbeat all the time.
@jaggass
@jaggass Ай бұрын
Can't beat floor monitors
@filosavage7475
@filosavage7475 3 ай бұрын
7:06 Simgot EM6L
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 3 ай бұрын
For absolute sound quality and affordability , usd $1k buys you almost endgame or satisfying IEMs, for headphones you may have to spend $1.5k to $2 k plus for endgame headphones , of coarse there are more expensive ones that in general not most people would spend on i.e. $5k-$50k............Thank You.
@DJHaworth
@DJHaworth 3 ай бұрын
did watch the other professor
@shaunkedroski1905
@shaunkedroski1905 3 ай бұрын
Personally speaking regardless of the tips etc I can never get a good fit and they always hurt my ears.... Oh well
@audio_tron
@audio_tron 3 ай бұрын
The tension between headphones and IEMs is the audio materialist’s dilemma.
@kizzxl
@kizzxl 3 күн бұрын
ChiFi, i like them
@patrick600
@patrick600 3 ай бұрын
Nowadays IEMs have advantage of bigger market choice
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 3 ай бұрын
are you guys deleting messages? If so let me know so I don't waste my time on this channel trying to have a discussion. I never used any links or foul language.
@TheHEADPHONEShow
@TheHEADPHONEShow 3 ай бұрын
No it's KZfaq's spam filter. Sometimes it just does that and it's unclear why.
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 3 ай бұрын
@@TheHEADPHONEShow I find that hard to believe. I made a comment a week ago and someone replied, and my replies to them are immediately deleted. That hardly is spamming.
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 2 ай бұрын
@@chungang7037 The only comments we actively delete are the ones that are like... outright hateful, intentional misinformation or spam. So like, if someone disagrees with what we have to say we don't remove that stuff, for example. What I have noticed is that sometimes youtube thinks something is spam when in fact its not - I've seen this on other channels as well. Like even if you don't post a link, if there's anything about it that LOOKS like it could be a link, youtube will block it. Try responding to me here with what you were trying to say.
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 2 ай бұрын
@@ResolveReviews I understand, but it usually happens on this channel specifically for me. I have seen others complain about it here as well. In my case I was mentioning a specific brand when someone asked what IEM I had demoed, but after multiple tries to respond I gave up. Only other thing I can think of is the channel has specific words/brands/etc set up to be filtered and removed, but I'll take you at your word that the channel isn't doing that beyond the use of inappropriate language and the like. Anyway, it is what it is.
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 2 ай бұрын
@@chungang7037 try mentioning them here. All I can do is see what you're saying here.
@chicken133221
@chicken133221 2 ай бұрын
With IEMs i found that finding the right tips was key. I use IEMs away from home due to portability and comfort. When home i use Maxwell audeze ultraviolet with wicked cooling pads, love them.
@8020Alive
@8020Alive 2 ай бұрын
Captain obvious. That's true of all gadgets and electronics.
@maicon9
@maicon9 3 ай бұрын
Im fully switching to iem from my hd 800S
@anthonyg6517
@anthonyg6517 3 ай бұрын
Not only headphone hair, headphones can also change people’s head shape lol
@VSN-wb2ly
@VSN-wb2ly 3 ай бұрын
5. you have no idea how far comfortable IEM is than headphones in tropical climate, it's significantly hotter while you're using headphones without AC
@Kudejikashi
@Kudejikashi 3 ай бұрын
not just headphone hair but headphone dent, ive seen those pictures of streamers with a dent in their head lmao edit after finishing video: i literally bought the hexas last week as my first iem and the last part boosted my confidence in my purchase between it and the zero red
@JaviGomezLozano-jk2wk
@JaviGomezLozano-jk2wk 3 ай бұрын
The way in which you use objective and subjective is kinda odd
@MattBorchert
@MattBorchert 3 ай бұрын
"They even have cartoon children on the boxes!" 😂
@icicle1029
@icicle1029 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how many people will have a bone to pick with the phrase "cartoon children" 🤔
@ucnguyenminh9393
@ucnguyenminh9393 3 ай бұрын
Why bother? Buy both!
@RozaqKurnia
@RozaqKurnia 3 ай бұрын
Honestly Im okay with speaker 😅😅😅
@mikehoward4583
@mikehoward4583 3 ай бұрын
Can't stand things stuck in my ear.
@deevnn
@deevnn 3 ай бұрын
Agreed...weird and uncomfortable
@Kaistro_
@Kaistro_ 3 ай бұрын
purely sound wise. i think that headphones have the edge over iems, to the extent in which ive tried IEMs which is not a whole lot, i do notice this underlying 'IEM timbre' thats not quite right, its a dry or dull plasticky sort of timbre to me ive also noticed that some iems struggle with busy or complicated tracks as well - which is not my preference, im personally very timbre pilled so i go for headphones. I also think that the market for iems is doing exactly what it did for headphones a while ago. you have a bunch of headphones coming out and eventually it settles and theres still strong, clearly good headphones still relavent today, such as my beloved hd600s. over time the headphone market slowed down after reaching a level of quality we can get with our technology (hehe that kinda rhymed). iem are curently having their boom before they plateau and inevitably reach their base level of quality. which i think wont exactly surpass headphones, at least not for a really long time, and by then we will probably have brain implants for audio XD at least from my research theres not really a 'hd600' of IEMs yet, some say dt200 but its practically irrelevant since its been discontinued. no iem i know of does what hd600s do, and maybe there never will be. it seems like most of the 'endgame' worthy iems like storm, metor, crimson, helios etc are all 500-5000 dollars and still dont seem capable enough to be able to compete with the same price bracket of headphones in pure sound. i will say though that i havent tried these iems so im going off of speculation. but to add to my speculation it seems like if you want an 'hd600 level' iem it seems you have to pay more than an hd600 to aquire it. not that im saying i want my iems to be an hd600 since im sure someone will just say 'if you like hd600 so much use it' (i do), but as explained in this video theres benefits to iems, but i want the sound offerred by headphones. mainly timbre, the little bit of spaciousness they do have, and so on. there is no best of both worlds. what makes iems convincing is price to performance and use case. they're often easier to use/more versatile but sometimes thats not always needed, and if someone is looking for the best sound and dont need the most portable, small form factor thing, then iems look more like a bottleneck to me.
@matthewweflen
@matthewweflen 3 ай бұрын
The real dealbreaker for me with IEMs is earwax buildup. It's #$%&ing disgusting, and there's really no way around it.
@NickolasStone
@NickolasStone 3 ай бұрын
"cartoon children" lol
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 ай бұрын
I didn't watch the other video due to the title.
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 ай бұрын
IEMs are cheaper to make, which is why they are also more expensive than the most expensive headphone.
@kyoumeister8996
@kyoumeister8996 3 ай бұрын
Lmao I just came across the video by SuperReview, watched for about a minute and clicked away. As someone who do own premium headphones and IEMs, and also demoed some flagship IEMs in headphone shops, I totally agree to your previous video on IEMs being objectively worse.
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 3 ай бұрын
That's because they are objectively worse!
@melvinsng2292
@melvinsng2292 3 ай бұрын
This is a provocative and controversial topic. Whilst IEMs have an edge as far as convenience and sound isolation is concerned, it is laughable to say that they are better than over ear headphones as there is no IEM that can provide the imaging and soundstage that a headphone can. Period.
@KmtS9
@KmtS9 3 ай бұрын
Yup, people have lost all ability to take in objective and nuanced discussions, and will react after reading a video title they don't like 😂
@domchan3578
@domchan3578 3 ай бұрын
She’s not a child, she’s a thousand years old! 🤓🤡
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