Just a note for everyone looking to potentially buy these pads. I preferred the Velour pad WITH EQ, if you're not planning on doing EQ, you may prefer the Sheepskin Perf pads or the Hybrid Pads. Check the article for measurements to see which one you like best as well as for my EQ profile for the Velour ones specifically: www.headphones.com/blogs/news/dekoni-pad-rolling-on-the-focal-clear
@pbarach14 жыл бұрын
I bought the Elite Velour pads. They definitely improved bass extension and tamed upper-mids in a way that improved acoustic piano. I have enough HF hearing loss so whatever is going on at 10-11 kHz is immaterial, so I'm not going to EQ. Thanks for the test and video.
@emilsal3 жыл бұрын
Can you share your eq setting for the Elegia and the solid sheepskin elite pads? Thanks for the review!
@traindeluxe37893 жыл бұрын
I bought the Dekoni Velour pads for my Clear after watching your video. I am not a professional reviewer, so I am not sure that the words I use to describe my experience here make much sence. The sound with Dekoni Velour pads is definetly different. I experience it as less 3d or less maybe it has less depth. I experience the Clear original Pads as more vivid. The sound is more destinct. The Velour pads add more bass, but I experience the bass as being a bit more muddy. The Clear loses a bit of its "Focal" sound. To me the orginal Clear pads are more comfortable, more soft. I used the following youtube track for comparison: "Christian Dior Cruise 2021-2022". It is very dynamic. I prefer the original pads over the Dekoni Velour ones. Can someone tell me a good EQ app for android to apply Resolve's EQ settings on?
@nrist13 жыл бұрын
The Elite Velour with the EQ you suggested is really good. Thanks for the recommendation, best pad swap I've done.
@metalman6163 ай бұрын
What is the closest one to the original pads ?
@mateusbernardi71644 жыл бұрын
The videos of this channel are so relaxing.
@olimphus264 жыл бұрын
This should be a new video series, pad rolling with different headphones
@metal5714 жыл бұрын
Gonna second this. Doing one of these huge pad comparisons was always on my radar... previously
@EVILLASER4 жыл бұрын
@@metal571 It's never too late and they're technically pad reviews... ;)
@Filopo074 жыл бұрын
@metal571 I replaced my Audeze LCD-X stock earpads with the Dekoni fenestrated sheepskin ones. To my surprise and delight, apart from improved comfort the new pads pretty much fixed the LCD-X infamous mega dip in the upper mids. It turns out someone else had found something similar previously: www.head-fi.org/threads/audeze-lcd-x.684394/post-14956431 Andrew @The HEADPHONE Show could perhaps reproduce this result quantitatively on a frequency response plot *wink wink* *nod nod* =) Bottom line, the fenestrated sheepskin pads changed the LCD-X tonal balance quite dramatically to my ears, and for the better. Highly recommended.
@metal5714 жыл бұрын
@@Filopo07 I have a feeling there's definitely some issues with the current pads, given the large disparity between the raws shown by Tyll's old graphs and your experience there
@Filopo074 жыл бұрын
@metal571 I hear you. Interestingly enough, Dekoni has a freq response plot that shows a similar effect for the LCD-2 (although the dip there is not as pronounced as that in the Xs and-according to the plot at least-it is shifted toward the lower treble): dekoniaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/LCD-FNSK-1024x549.png I haven’t tried the LCD-2, but maybe you have and it makes better sense to you.
@vonBaronX4 жыл бұрын
For me Clear sound best on stock pads, I've tested Dekoni Ferstated Sheepskin and Hybrid pads.
@ftlaud9114 жыл бұрын
Great job as always. $200 for pads is overpriced. Surprised you liked an aftermarket pad more than OEM. Comfort is king and Clear pads are super comfortable already.
@swilkins19843 жыл бұрын
Just got the solid sheepskins for my Elegia and they are just great. I loved the stock sound and never had a problem getting a good seal to retain the bass but these really bring up the low end and make the midrange more natural and less forward. At first the bass seemed excessive but after 10 minutes my ears adjusted and now it just sounds right. Yes, the bass is boosted a bit beyond neutral but it's not bloated and is very detailed. You keep the Elegia's speed, detail and slam too. This is the first pad roll that satisfied enough that I will switch from the stock pads long term. Andrew, I would like to try your EQ setting to see if it improves the sound more for me. Thank you Andrew for the suggestion!
@miloa.26843 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your comment I decided to buy these and I couldn’t be any happier. The bass is so punchy and deep while not muddy which is perfect because it still retains all the detail and even the soundstage. I love that it makes the midrange sound more neutral as well.
@genohero6139 Жыл бұрын
@@miloa.2684 DO you have the Focal CLear or Elegia? I have neither but want to buy one. Also did you get the Sheepskin or Velour?
@miloa.2684 Жыл бұрын
@@genohero6139 I have the Elegia and i got the sheepskin from Dekoni which in my opinion sound better
@italiansurprise4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for the awesome vid! This is the real info that I’ve been looking for that seems to be missing from all of the internet. I just ordered the Pros earlier today and have some hybrid and velour pads that I bought for Elex (since sold). Dekonis measurements alone make it very difficult to determine how the sound will change on these “pad sensitive” headphones.
@jeffreymakuch24934 жыл бұрын
Can you post measurements for the Elegia ? Even if only for the solid leather pad, if the others are just too far off. When you say 'more bass' do you mean it helps with the mid-bass dip ? In fact, if you still have the pads and are able to use them on other Focal headphones, it would be a great service. The high price of stock Focal pads applies to all their headphones.
@lostandfound65013 жыл бұрын
Yes, we need measurements in the elegia's
@miloa.26843 жыл бұрын
I have the elite sheepskin pads and it definitely helps with the mid bass dip. Songs sound so much more punchy and beefier and complete. With the stock pads, everything sounded like it was missing something. It also helped lower the mids a little making it less fatiguing to the ears and more fun to listen to. I highly recommend you get them!
@sleepyrhythms66684 жыл бұрын
I abandoned EQ after getting a Lyr 3, but it's still really useful sometimes. Great video Andrew. 🙂
@1ce2berg3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the Lyr 3 over the Jotunheim 2?
@sleepyrhythms66683 жыл бұрын
@@1ce2berg I've never used the Jot, sorry. From what people say is slams much harder. Lyr pulls ahead in coherency and layering. To me Lyr is smooth and full bodied, but wouldn't be my first choice if you want a lot of grip behind your drivers.
@billkilpatrick34652 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. I've tried pad-swapping on both the Clear and the Elegia, which I own, with dissatisfying results. I'll keep the velour in mind for the Clear and the sheepskin in mind for the Elegia. Thanks for the careful attention to detail.
@snowmean13 жыл бұрын
I've bought my LCD-2C with Dekoni Velour pads attached and original in the Dekoni box. At first I decided to go full stock, however after just a day of using original Audeze pads, I immediately went back to Dekoni Velour. More balanced sound with less peaks overall. I also can say that Dekoni pads looks like was made from a bit better materials, as stock pads started dissolving after second application (Audeze glues pads with double side adhesive 0-ring) while Dekoni easily survived 3 applications without any issues.
@soulfulfool2 жыл бұрын
im not even thinking about new pads for my 2C, first thing I swapped was cable, peaks...not really are there I'm using reveal plug in, they have few minor downsides but at the end great cans
@ZeBubba4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the velours are also much cheaper than the rest. I just ordered a pair. Cheers for the cool comparo!
@sultanabran123 күн бұрын
i just put on a pair of Dekoni Sheeskin Elite on my Elegias. Huge improvement for my taste.
@barrylewis19283 жыл бұрын
Bought the velour as described while I clean my original Focal Clear gray pads. I used to EQ with Amarra SQ+ Mac but it became "crash prone" with Catalina OS. The Elite velour sound terrific with a slight bass boost. My preferred DAC/AMP is the iDSD Micro Black Label rebranded as the Signature model. Has to switches- XBass and 3D. Xbass gives an slight organic bass boost justas these pads which is perfection. #D gives a beautiful open depth and wider soundstage. Like them so far. Waiting for my original to dry. Love Ithem
@mikejeffries8630 Жыл бұрын
Barry, how did you clean the Clear pads? Tx
@mttrashcan-bg1ro10 ай бұрын
I tried my pads off the Radiance on the Clear MG and was quite impressed as it made them bassier without making the other ranges sound worse to my ears and I quite liked them. The problem is you can't get replacement pads for the Radiance and I don't want to wear them out. Is there any other pads that would be similar that I could get for my Clear MG? My guess is sheep skin earcups
@KirkLazurus3 жыл бұрын
We NEED a Dekoni pad video for the HD 650.
@changhwalee63954 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review as always. I also have purchased Dekoni Sheepskin Solid recently to try it on Elegia. While I am satisfied with the quality of the product itself, I found that bass is a little bit too muffled and treble to be a bit too shy than I'd like it to be for my taste. While I tried my own version of EQing to fix this issue, I would be very much appreciated if you could share your own version of EQ profile on the forum with the sheepskin on, if this is not too much for you, so that I can have a reference point in EQ profile. No rushes from my end; if you are too busy for this, I understand as well. Regardless, thanks for the excellent vids here and reviews on the forum.
@ResolveReviews4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I should be able to do that.
@metal5714 жыл бұрын
Should be noted closed backs are going to react differently to the same pads. Do not at all assume the changes here in FR will reflect Elegia changes. Pads can affect stage and resolution as well and not just FR. It's pretty complicated and I'd never feel comfortable recommending any 3rd party pad without having listened to it in person first
@EVILLASER4 жыл бұрын
@@ResolveReviews Like some other guys here have mentioned, some measurements of the Elegia with those Dekoni pads would be super rad. I assume that a few viewers (myself included) have recently acquired the Elegia, what with the Adorama sales that have been going on lately, and would like whatever info would free us from having to buy seriously overpriced pads. Thanks for the great vids!
@ResolveReviews4 жыл бұрын
@@metal571 yeah all the pads except for the sheepskin solids completely kill the bass on the Elegia. That's the only one worth considering.
@metal5714 жыл бұрын
@@ResolveReviews if all the others are perf then that makes sense. Same thing happens with ZMFs
@JosephEhrenpreis4 жыл бұрын
I like the fenestrated sheepskin the most out of this set on my Clears. Agree that the Velours are superrrr comfy though. Thanks for the detailed review!
@MrEvilclick4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime Andrew says "little bit" in this video and reply back if you are still alive.
@ninhbac044 жыл бұрын
insane focal charges $200 for their pads
@thebudgetaudiophile68084 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Andrew, though it probably would have made sense to include a graph of how each pad measures directly in the video!
@TheHEADPHONEShow4 жыл бұрын
It's in the article linked in the description. I worry about graph overload for people
@TheCangle4 жыл бұрын
I bought the fenestrated sheepskin and the normal sheepskin pads for the elegia and also found that the normal ones made a better difference to the sound. I think the fenestrated ones might sound a bit more natural but the bass extension was definitely reduced which I didn't enjoy.
@jasonbhatnagar71342 жыл бұрын
Normal sheepskin and EQ or no EQ? How is the treble with those sheepskin pads on the elegia?
@DBSTH0R4 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for doing this. I can vouch for Dekoni Elite Velour pads (used them on DT1990Pro) - they are super comfy. There is one other mod people recommend for Clear pad swapping: Utopia pads. Word on the Reddit is that they make Clears a bit more darker. If not too much of a problem, can you run measurement with Utopia pads on Clears as well?
@TheWretchedWorld4 жыл бұрын
just the video i needed....
@Artaois134 жыл бұрын
Funny you made this video. I've been considering getting some of these for my Elear but I'm not sure which to get to enhance the sound. Focals prices are ridiculous and I don't know if the Elex pads will ever become available again.
@LakerTriangle4 жыл бұрын
I ordered the pads for Elegia.
@aceofspades66674 жыл бұрын
Pad swapping for the Elegia?
@Odyofil4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Very good reviews. Thanks. Have you ever experienced the beyerdynamic T5p 2nd Gen? What are your thoughts about them?
@KenDupont4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Any chance for a comparison for swapping on the Elegia? I prefer the Elite Sheepskin to stock. I think the denser closed material is a much better fit for a closed back.
@TheHEADPHONEShow4 жыл бұрын
Yeah those solid ones work for the Elegia. I still like to EQ up the upper mids and treble a bit, but it does help the bass a lot.
@KenDupont4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHEADPHONEShow any chance you can share your eq tweaks with the Sheepskin?
@InvisibleIink4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Link to EQ profile for solid pads + Elegia?
@axeldamien912 ай бұрын
I'm about to sell my Elegia. I bought the solid pads, but I don't know how to EQ. An EQ would be great, if you could please share it :)
@traindeluxe37893 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to mount Elex pads on a Clear? If yes, did any one tried and has the results?
@DanAndreiVladut3 жыл бұрын
Would you please, please do this same experiment with the Sundara? Dying to know the result
@jerryliu47634 жыл бұрын
Cool experiment! What eq would you recommend for the default focal pads on the clear??
@TheHEADPHONEShow4 жыл бұрын
Chrono has one in his vid. I think I may prefer it a bit brighter, so I'm still working on mine. At the moment I just reduce 10khz by 4 with a Q value of 5.
@malek87364 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if there were ones in the color of the Focal's.
@RICHARDPOOLE173 жыл бұрын
Can anyone give me a bit of help please ? I find my Clears too bright, even after EQ, so have ordered these pads (velour) and will also try and EQ. In the write up for this review, there are EQ settings, with the 'optional' settings including a high and low shelf EQ...but no Q value is listed. I'm a real EQ newbie, so just follow written instructions - my Roon DSP needs a Q figure for the high & low shelf , what figure should I use ???
@swilkins19844 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how the Elear pads sound on the Elegia. Keeping that light gray on the inside of the Elegia pads looking nice is impossible with sweat and natural hair oil.
@DaBurntToaster2 жыл бұрын
i love the sound of my clears but daily driving these is such a pain, they get SO GROSS I feel like i have to wash the pads weekly, and washing the headband is a complete PAIN IN THE ASS, I dont want to change the sound signature, i just want an impermeable facing material......
@divinecurrent90532 жыл бұрын
I have a similar issue. After a few months, daily driving my Clear MG Pro the pads get all scratched up from my face stubble. It’s annoying as hell, because I love the stock pads sound over the Elex pads I have tried. For the headband though, I recommend putting a cover on it. I got a large one on Amazon by TXesign, very comfortable and keeps it clean.
@partyincali15193 жыл бұрын
Idk if you’ll answer this but I recently bought the focal radiance based on your review. Was wondering what pads I should get for it
@dogspur80489 ай бұрын
The links to the measurements and EQ settings no longer works. 404 error.
@aswiatal4 жыл бұрын
I just bought them couple days ago😃, but for dt 1990 pro
@pc_decisions87644 жыл бұрын
What about brainwavz pad Rolling? AKG changes are really interesting on this pads.
@adeadcrab4 жыл бұрын
suspicious of dekoni leather
@undertaker1500003 жыл бұрын
Been going thought so many headphone videos trying find a good pair for me. But it's been so hard. I bought Sennheiser Pro Audio HD280PRO. But return them due to there tightness and giving me an instant headache after just 3 minutes of wearing them. I just want a nice pair of comfy headphones that are good with glasses. And not trap hot air in my ear holes. And i can wear for streaming. About not over a 100$
@vlekkiedepoes71923 жыл бұрын
Forgot to name the store name Studio-22 and Novomusica i hope it is nor forbidden to name a store .
@vlekkiedepoes71923 жыл бұрын
Hallo everyone if you need new pads there you can have original from Spain with the costs to The Netherland i paid 120 euro and they look original - did not try them on yet
@bluesiliconedot21902 жыл бұрын
Which are the most isolating for a drummer?
@keithb56123 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any experience of pad swapping on the closed back Focal Radiance headphone?
@bongkuetleong64904 жыл бұрын
would you do sundara pads version as well
@Tripokaridos223 жыл бұрын
I would like to know your opinion About HD6 series pad swaping ?
@vincenthusvh4 жыл бұрын
How does the Elegia sound with the pads of the Stellia?
@peteranderson69327 ай бұрын
What can you recommend for replacing pad that goes on top of your head (skull) on Focal Clear ?
@robm3213 жыл бұрын
Link to EQ settings for Clear with stock pads?
@PatrickQT2 жыл бұрын
Are these Pads compatible to the newser MG model? (focal clear mg)
@Gamerlingual4 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend which pads might be able to keep the Focal Clear at its stock sound signature?
@soulfulfool2 жыл бұрын
stock pads haha :D I'm also afraid that can be money wasted for new pads if they gonna sound worse than original
@insertaghere2 жыл бұрын
What eq software do you use?
@Musictron4 жыл бұрын
What pads and possible EQ do you recommend to calm down the DT 1990 harsh top end?
@mjjm62203 жыл бұрын
I got the Dekoni Choice Hybrid for Beyer DT series. I also use the same pads on the Beyer T5 as I found the T5 stock leather pads on closed back being too hot.