It's all because of her last name. She's got daddys money.

An honest waste

Too young and is rushed. She has talent just look at the SRX but she needs to figure it out or she’s done

Bust

I think she rushed herself up, she has the sponsor money but she’s not in really bad equipment but she is not delivering, I think if she goes back to Arca and redevelop herself she could have another chance but that is unlikely. Hailie didn’t do to well in Thorsport equipment either so yeah, I definitely think her career right now is not really good at all.

The dbc guys had the nerve to say its because of the car while completely ignoring the fact she had a top 5 truck last year with all her teammates getting into the playoffs while one also winning the championship

@@dedo7326Ya the bias is pretty strong from them.

It's because Bret Moffitt is the Real Deal, I bet he would've won the championship in any of those Thorsport or DGR/Crosley things she drove.

@@thetechfromheaven wish he was in trucks full time

@@JackCallSports wish he was in Cup in a good ride. He would do better than Harrison Burton or Corey Lajoie for sure.

He wasn't as popular as Hailey is. Talent didn't matter, she thought she was a better face for the JOB.

Isnt he a petty tho?

@@Cuhh346Thad Moffitt. Brett isn't

@@billb412 way more popular bud and the talent did matter. She's only popular to the casuals that don't even care that she sucks.

@@shaynejenkins446 Only talent she's got is that she's a pretty face, like a Danica 2.0, harsh to say it, but that's reality...

No, it is a business and she brings in more money.

@@cmoore185 she does bring money but she doesn’t bring good performance

@@cmoore185 true she does bring in money, but even that only gets you so far, especially when you dont have the results to show for it

@@cmoore185 no she doesn't lol. That team is going under.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand business. Lol

They fans because booba

My favorite one is, all the other drivers have it out for her and race her harder

Most of them are probably simps or boomers.

@@robertstone9988you can’t deny some drivers do that though. Remember, shawna Robinson said it herself on the dale jr download. Mike Wallace was gunning for her. He made that clear. Lawless allen is another 1. Look at how he races side by side with a male, and then how he does side by side with a woman. I’m not defending hailie but. I’ve watched racing since 1991. I’ve seen a lot of guys race women harder for being female and I give credit to Janet Guthrie, Danica, and others who paved the way while some did try to hold them back. Bobby rahal admitted, he didn’t setup Danica’s car to the best it could because he was afraid of what could happen since she was a woman. To this day he regrets it. That’s part of the reason he has his son race for him. She needs to finish and compete. If she can get more top 20s regularly. She will turn some heads and then top 15, and so on. She needs to be competitive. She’s been better than Natalie decker in xfinity. Let’s be honest about it

@@robertstone9988by no means am I a simp, or even a fan of Hallie whatsoever to be honest. She just rubs me the wrong way if I’m being honest. But there’s no denying that it’s absolutely a thing. Shawna Robinson is a classic example of that. Sat on the pole in the early 90’s in Busch, only to have Mike Wallace openly take her out of the race. I do recall in trucks, I want to say a back marker (can’t recall who,) took her out quite a bit, or attempted to. To have to worry about that extra layer during the race is definitely not helping her at all. I feel it’s underestimated the amount of stress and second guessing she goes through because of it. With that said, it’s not to say a 28th place finish would have turned into say a 8th, but it very easily could turn 28th into 22-27, etc.

And having a famous last name too. Let's admit it, if she was a guy who doesn't have a famous last name, she would've been outta NASCAR a long time ago.

@JustGenius2001 your completely correct but this is a really ironic comment considering your profile picture

@@NickGreene-dq7ku Oh come on now, that's just a cheap shot. Junior got far in NASCAR because yes, his father, but at least Junior ran up sometimes and won races during his time. Junior has trophies, does Deegan? A few trophies? So what? Junior has a lot more and besides, Junior was a much better driver than Deegan will ever be.

​@JustGenius2001 many drivers could do more than what he did in DEI and Hendrick equipment

@@Mikey85inNV Look, I don't want to deal with another fight. Let's not forget that Junior lost his father on the track so perhaps his personal trauma kept him from being on a level like Gordon and Johnson.

I got so much crap for commenting this last year it’s clear she spends just as much time on KZfaq and other social stuff as she does with her team.. people can hate drivers like Denny Hamlin all they want but he wasn’t the most talented driver he simply worked hard and still does to this day. You can tell which drivers in nascar have work ethic and who doesn’t

Agree . You have to have 100% focus to being a driver .

Only thing I disagree with is, money can buy talent. BUT, not for everyone* Look at it this way. A non-talented, non-pay driver will never get a chance, right? But a non-talented pay driver will. We don’t see non-pay drivers fail much, because they have to be talented in the first place. It appears that pay drivers are worse because they have a much longer leash, and are granted an opportunity. If you already have talent as a pay driver, it’s much easier to harness your skills because you have more opportunities to race. I used to despise pay drivers, and still do to an extent. But I’ve come to realize they have a leg up on competitors IF they already have the talent. With that said, Hallie is not a case for this. Had Hallie not had the name, and funding, we would have never seen her to begin with. Thus is the reasoning why pay drivers get a bad name.

@@keenenbenton9843 work ethic? Don't think Hailie knows the word. Too many "lake days" showing of her "enhanced" figure.

Her KZfaq has become more her bf race channel and she just gets shown on it to grab views

Hell, if I was rich I'd give her a ride if she gave me one

Modern JJ Yeley. She should go back to Arca and try to win there, otherwise I don't see her having a chance of having a top ride.

@@thetechfromheaven Nah, not even ARCA. GT4 America/IMSA as an "Am"

We meet again Aloe fan. Forever 5

NASCAR is just not for her. She should just follow her father's footsteps and go do dirt racing or become a full-time social media personality.

@@thetechfromheaven Nah just go full in like GT racing or Even dirt. Shes solid on dirt. Could learn and build from there. Theres nothing wrong with just being a full time Dirt Driver. Not everyone has to make it in NASCAR.

She's Milka Duno 2.0

@@MrEnzio777 Gonna need a Brit to singlehandedly carry her to an IMSA Title.

@@MrEnzio777 eh, not sure about that. Unlike Duno, Hailie atleast showed some promise in lower tier categories.

@@davidmarecek1754 Technically this also applies to Duno because she did pretty well during her time in Le Mans and Grand Am (the two sportscars series that would eventually merge to become IMSA)

@@MrEnzio777 Sportscar Fan here. Milka Duno was carried by the Legend Andy Wallace, she was dogshit in those cars and it showed. She basically was an anchor and Andy Wallace hated her.

Racing her hard? More like trying to take her out.

@@davessparetime83 I saw those videos where she was crying and complaining. That's hard racing. She would break down going against guys like Larson and Chastain

She won’t move on. It’s a multi year agreement with AM Racing

Yeah I've seen so many people defend her, like one of my friends is one of those and I asked him one thing "Your just a simp aren't you" and he went quiet like...

​@@AerowarsI feel bad for these dudes

Exactly. Normally she never even finishes. She's garbage.

At this point I hate to do this but I’m done trusting female drivers because I’m never going to be happy rooting for one looking at the past results

Johanna Long is so far the only one with the talent to go far

They are out there. They just don't have daddy's money to fund their NASCAR career like Deegan.

@@wyvernzero7642 Jade Avedisian is one to keep an eye on. Isabella Robusto as well. Both have TRD factory support and are adapting well to three different types of vehicle (GT4, ARCA and a Quarter Midget).

Where are the “anything a man can do, a woman can do better”?

Watch her pull a reverse-Danica and go to IndyCar

@@MrEnzio777 Not happening. IMSA/SRO America is the only landing spot. Jack Polito wants into IMSA, and he'd get paid by Ford to have Deegan as his teammate, no brainer.

​@@MrEnzio777so she can suck there?

Doubt it

She better give that Hawk tuah

Darian won't make the video because he's a Deegan simp himself and a notorious plagiariser.

​@@JustGenius2001 that's the biggest shame in all of this. I really liked his channel, until I saw the video (with evidence!) of his copy and paste approach to making videos.

I be WOKE!

It's why I no longer fly.

major simp that guy

Kenny Wallace is a washed up never has been who has the most annoying mouth ever. I don't know why people watch him at all.

His whole "dirt track drivers are poor" thing is cringe as hell

Kenny Wallace is annoying. How can anyone watch his videos?

​@@NicholasSpencer-uc9utKenny is Kenny. He will compliment everyone. I think it's less about being a simp and more about promoting every driver he knows or talks to.

She’s way better than the gray brothers in the trucks especially tanner gray he’s shouldn’t even be in the trucks, also Jake Garcia isn’t any better either!

@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray this year still scored more Top 10’s than her entire tenure in Trucks.

​@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray still won an Arca race.

@@miketwotwenty you are so delusional

@@miketwotwenty Both Tanner Gray and Taylor Gray have done more this year than in her entire truck stint. Keep snorting copium 🤡

More than that, she was wasn't amazing when she raced micro sprints. Any national sprint car driver could do far better than her

​​@@NickGreene-dq7kutop 20ish sprint car drivers would clean up against most of the current cup field once they got some laps on pavement

@SamMayer-ig6tw yeah I know

@@SamMayer-ig6tw especially since the tires are so hard now! Little falloff means those dirt drivers can do their thing-find grip anywhere by any means without worrying about chewing up tires as much.

I have epilepsy, so I haven't had a drivers license since 2011 and I'd be willing to bet that I could have a close season avg finish to hers. Not a knock on female drivers at all, there's male drivers just as bad. But it does get to a point where it's pretty clear that she's mainly out there for the PR.

Do top dirt track guys even want to participate in nascar anymore? You make high 6 figures or even over a million now at the top of dirt track racing

Only way you will make more than that in nascar is if you make it to the top of cup which is a huge risk

5000 +

Yes, there are many dirt racers. Even that local guy that's just kind of good at your track would probably do relatively well in NASCAR. But I don't think a lot of dirt guys care about NASCAR that much or asphalt type racing aside from the money and everything else that goes with it just dealing with the clowns running NASCAR would be a pain.

Nascar is all about money now a days it’s not about the talent 🤷🏻‍♂️

Her social media profile is the primary reason she has had a career in NASCAR. She’s marketable. Her social media “exploits” are not a distraction. They are the reason for her success, such as it is.

She wasn't a good dirt racer, all the people racing in usac and power I midgets were better than her.

She is literally all marketing

She wasn't great at mirco sprint racing, raced midgets a few times and was trash. She wasn't good on dirt. The top dirt guys would run circles around nascar drivers in 2024

She was a mid dirt track driver too. Nascar hyped the crap out of her dirt background but she wasn't really that great

As a guy who berated her terrible driving last season I also can’t believe she’s this bad…

Danica showed some flashes in NASCAR at least. Deegan seems to have regressed over the years.

Gee, no duh! She's a woman with a famous last name so of course sponsors will help to move her up🙄

And comments like yours here make me sick. We might as well just stop going and watching races and let NASCAR die because without ticket sales and viewers, NASCAR is fucked.

@@JustGenius2001 sounds good to me big time dirt track racing is putting out a great product right now

Money doesn’t stay around long when you are chasing the end of the pack each week. She has not shown anything positive in trucks or xfinity, time to give another driver the seat.

Don't crap on every other driver just because of this. Also, if any sport isn't about talent, it's F1. F1 is based 99% on aspects other than talent.

​@loganmanderfield1162 you need to have millions in funding at your disposal to even get involved in nascar. The talent level is headed off a cliff and your in denial

She was racing tiny kids while she was in top notch rides. It should make sense to you when all that went away, and she had to bring in sponsors and race people her own age.

She should try Rally

@@6TheButcher Was thinking the same, it might end up being better...

uh she was very mediocre on dirt too. Sounds like we bought into some nascar pr lol

@@nickphilkill818yeah I’m not sure where this “she’s amazing on dirt” thing came from. Outside of beating some past their prime guys in SRX, she’s not exactly lighting it up in micros either

And 50 more wrecks are sure to come. Just embarrassing🤦‍♂

Thats even better than Danica! 😂

@@DaytonaPrototypes Unbelievably bad.

What talent she had has been stunted by rapid progression, and maybe a lack of tenacity on her part. I don't know how I've can overcome the former, but the latter is all mental.

Is dad is one of the first monster athletes

In all fairness that's all professional drivers. If your family didn't bring home 6 figgers and you don't have corporate connections your not making it to trucks never less cup. The most blue collar down to earth every day guy driver you can thank of, if you just do a little research would reveal at minimum a upper middle class family with connections. In other words if you are 10 years old live in the trailer park single mother on food stamps and dream of being a cup driver, it's never going to happen. Dosnt mean you can't drive race cars. I have run a bomber (late model leaf spring car) on a used car sales man's budget but it strains my budget and I can't afford to make ever race or crash a car or take risks that others can. It's not there fault there rich and connected. There just doing what we all wish we could and would do if we could. Just stating facts.

@@robertstone9988 You're kind fo correct and I agree with you ona fundamental level, but I think you are completely missing both the point that I was making in my OP as well as the nuances of the industry. Professional racing is indeed a ridicuously expensive sport, and if you want to be in trucks, with no talent, you need way more than a measly 6 figure salary. Hell if it only took a 6 figure income and corporate connections, I would still be racing. I developed amazing relationships with NAPA, I started K1 Race Gear with the owners of K1 Speed, and am even still on Bill McAnally's personal christmas card list (lol). Add an extra 0 to the income bracket at minimum as well as add an extra stipulation to the corporate connection that is "family/family friend tie AND did not piss off someone who does have family/family friend ties to your corporate connections". But to go back to my OP, let me try and rephrase it a bit in to clarify. While yes, everyone in racing has some sort of connection that got them there, more often than not, they are racing at tht high level because they have, at least, a base line of inherent ability and talent to drive a racecar. What I am saying is that I do not think Hailie Deegan even possesses the minimum level of talent to be professional stock car racing. She doesn't have the drive, the focus, the discipline, the training or the raw natural instinct. So to reitterate, I believe she got to where she is now purely based off of the money and influence, and talent (or lack there of) had zero influence on her advancements in professional racing.

@@hypebroouttanowhere6411 When we were in the same school, like once every month or maybe even more often than that, someone in the Deegan family would do a promo in front of the plaza during lunch time. I'm pretty sure every single person who grew up in Temecula knew the Deegan family, especially considering basically every 3rd child was walking around with one of their hats on. I can't remember the Deegan brand off the top of my head anymore but it was something like "metal malitia" or something. Honestly, they were/are genious marketers because every freakin kid had a metal malitia shirt, hat, poster or sticker.

@@TheCloudCreation I agree with you 100% dare I say if she was a he they would have never made it this far. She's Danica 2.0 when it comes to marketing. We didn't have a lot of money growing up but I managed to get ahold of some go carts not racing just brigs 5 horse and we run the nabour hood with them, the extent of my carting Career lol. Always wanted to be a pro driver I'm 46 years old i was huge Kyle petty fan back in the day. Ran the 44 on my bomber. I thank thare are 4 measurable stats to determine if you are going to be pro. 4 stats to measure all drivers 1 skill: skill is learned any one can achieve skill and skill can be built on and improved. Example would be we can all learn How to drive a car fast. Hot to apex how to trail brake how ext. 2. Talent: Talent can't be learned you got it or you don't Everyone can learn how to play guitar.Not everybody can be jimi hendrix. 3. Connections: racing is expensive and to be fair a bit of a club. No one gets thare with out some one to open some doors. 4: heart: All the talent skill and opportunity in the world.Don't mean anything if you're hart ant in it. Not all drivers possess all four. But all of the goats do. Hailie has 2 Opportunity and heart. She got farther than me. I know I got heart I know I got skill, like to thank I got Talent but thare was no Connections. I sim race now. Got grate group of guys and 2 wemon and there good.

Arrogance doesn't work in Nascar. The Deegan's have plenty of that. It's a grinders sport.

I don't even understand how there as SO many you can find a random video with like 50 views and they'll still be in the comments

Then stop reading them

@@billb412 I found the first ever bot defender

@@XTheManXI mean he’s right, bitching about it won’t change anything…

@@deaf2819 I don't remember asking you what you thought ngl

😂

Yep, Moffitt indeed got pushed to the side for this. I bet AM Racing is regretting their decision. Then again, they're getting good money and good publicity for having her so🤷‍♂

Well, tbh, you can't compare her to SVG, the guy is literally top notch, at a Kyle Larson, Kyle Busch Harvick, you name it talent level, in short, world-class driver. I'd say that a good level for her would be maybe a guy like Michael McDowell, or someone that runs about like he does, not great, not terrible, but good enough to say that he's worthy of his seat in the series. And having that as a baseline of sorts, she's far below that, so I'd say that her time is up. Honestly I believe thatat this point she's a pretty faced (there ain't no fault in that) marketing tool that runs mediocre at best...

My favorite nepo baby is probably Richard Petty or Dale Earnhardt

ARCA is no longer a gauge of Talent, the CARS Tour and NASCAR Canada are.

​​@@Dexter037S4cars tour has a higher level of talent than xfinity

Ah the old nepo baby thing again. Who is your favorite nepo baby? Mine is probably Richard Petty or Dale Earnhardt.

And she took the lead late in the Indy 500. People like to forget that. Danica was a good, solid racecar driver (excellent finishing record in IndyCar), but never a great driver.

happens often

Wait til you find out trucks and most of xfinity are mickey mouse too

travisstone7109, many of her simps have bailed.

I think you are actually right with your hot take. It takes a lot of muscle endurance to turn the car and sit in the heat for a long time, and women just aren't as rigid as men are. To some it hurts to hear, but it's the hard truth.

In terms of women racing at the highest levels, I think it comes down more to they actually have to start racing when they are very young. If I remember Deegan didn't start racing in a stock cars until she was in her mid-teens. Very slim chance that cuts it in modern-day NASCAR when you have boys that are raising when they first start walking. Not only is a woman going to have to start racing at a very young age, but she is going to also have to have that extra passion and drive to compete with the best men. That's just ridiculously hard to do. Nascar, the teams, and the sponsors have essentially screwed any future female that actually has some serious potential due to them parading out crappy female drivers. Play bragged about Danica as if she was one of the all-time great drivers and she was f****** terrible

She has some nude photos, but they were leaked

​@@Ka_GgYep for sure plus Motorsports is possibly the only other sport they could actually compete with Men. It's defienitly not like MMA or Boxing where Men have a clear strength advantage no matter what.

Her car wasn't legal either

LOL that's freaking hilarious.

cabre deserved better

They’re both annoying and failures

@@RC.41what about their dog 🤔

Or she can do a reverse-Danica and go from NASCAR to IndyCar.

Jack Polito is dominating the Sports Car Championship Canada, perfect team mate for her right there.

Yeah IMSA the big time reject series

@@RC.41better than sitting on the couch watching like us

@@bwedd3772 it’s better but an imsa champion can’t be treated as a serious world championship driver. If they were they would be in Indy or F1 or Nascar like they weren’t good enough for. It’s a professional amateur race series. A nice one, but that’s what it is.

Are we going to completely ignore the FACT she is a Ford performance backed driver? Yeah go ahead and tell me that doesn't come with money and technical support.

@curtiscraig769 just because she's in the Ford pipeline doesn't automatically mean that Ford is pumping millions into where ever she is. Plenty other Ford Performance "backed" drivers out there, and still only one team in that series that's worth anything this year. Or do you think that because Cindric lucked into a win and Blaney won a race in a completely different car and series means that every Ford in every series is an automatic powerhouse vehicle that is pure domination?

@@ksteinwand6744 actually there are very few Ford performance drivers

@curtiscraig769 way to miss the point. Just go back to your corner where anyone who isn't white, has a dick, and doesn't claim that they devote their life to a religion that they use to justify hatred and genocide are automatically shit and deserve to be in a box. If you can't find it, just listen for all the snowflakes crying about how Dale is rolling over in his grave because NASCAR switched to EFI

The Sieg cars tend to run well. A pretty solid 2nd-tier team, with no factory support to my knowledge.

She's gonna cost someone a lotta money in the Cup Series because there's no doubt she'll wreck a lot.

Nascar will be irrelevant in 10 years at this pace

Just for a manufacturer, thats like saying jimmie johnson leaving chevy for toyota is the reason why he's killing his career

@@lionelnextelstudios0.282 considering Johnson was still contending for top 10s here and there when he was driving for Chevy. Him switching to Toyota is apart of it yeah.

She might be worse💀

Funny thing is i would say she is anti danica shes to scared to do anything at all while danica was to willing to do anything So maybe the next big female driver will find that sweet spot

Yeah. Milka Duno level worse.

@@MrEnzio777 Oh god. Don’t remind me of duno.

@@SuperNASCARrocks Hard to forget the biggest bust in all of any racing discipline

@SilverThunder710, "Failie" Deegan is a dud in all motorsports racing, not just NASCAR. The stats/facts don't lie, but her SIMPS damn sure do, though.

Yes she was she doesn’t get the credit she deserves

​​​@@law3344she gets plenty of credit but just didn't get brought up to the Cup series since they already had Danica.

@ceeinfiniti1389, Danica Patrick became the most successful female racecar driver in typical auto racing history. "Failie" Deegan is lucky to even finish a race. Of all the full-time drivers, she's ranked last. In NASCAR, Danica did better than the previous 118 female drivers since 1949. None better since her either. Your ignorance is quite obvious.

@@sergeantmasson3669 Name me one time Danica Patrick lived up to the hype and expectations of a NASCAR Cup series driver, because I can name plenty of times where she embarrassed herself. She was much better at Indycar (Including a win in 2008) and should have stayed there, but with the move to NASCAR she cashed in early on her marketing and brand image and as a result was a bust behind the wheel of a stock car.

@@ceeinfiniti1389 Danica Patrick was better in NASCAR than the previous 118 female drivers since 1949. None better since her either. The only female driver to win a Daytona 500 pole position. Only female driver to ever win an Indy cars race also. Guaranteed that she could outdrive/outrace you anytime/anywhere, even today, PUNK.

@@sergeantmasson3669 I never claimed to be a racing driver first of all. I don't understand the point you're trying to make there. You want to know the only stats the matter in racing: How you do compared to those you compete against. Quit trying to compare her to past female drivers as a justification for her place in NASCAR, because she did not deserve that full-time SHR ride for as long as she had it. She wasn't even on the same level as her teammates, let alone the rest of the competitive competition. One pole, no wins, no top 5 finishes, seven top tens, and a career best finish of 24th in points. That's the standard of success that warrants a full-time cup ride for a championship winning team for five years, and possibly more if she wanted it? Any other driver would have been axed by the end of year 3 at the latest with that kind of performance. And if you want to compare her to other women drivers, fine. She doesn't' hold a candle to the late Sabine Schmitz (2 overall Nurburgring 24 hours wins) or Michele Moulton (4 WRC wins, 2nd place WRC championship finish in 1982, considered to be one of the best Rally drivers in the 1980s, plus smashing Al Unser Jr's Pikes Peak record while wining the 1985 event during a hailstorm.) Enough with your ignorance.

@@ceeinfiniti1389 FYI, personal opinions prove nothing. Stats/facts damn sure do but with your IQ level, you're unable to comprehend them.

Yeah and that's the problem with NASCAR nowadays and i just hate that why can't people hire drivers with just their talent level and not because of daddy money or sporuership or famous last name i mean its just ridiculous.

Funny how we as fans think we have room to talk about talent while we're at home every week 😂

​@Jeff.3 you are talking about tony stewart being a great driver in another comment? Why are you allowed to judge talent and not us? Simps just wanna make it up as they go along lol

You may be at home Jeff but lots of us are pounding the pavement at our local short tracks. Better to be a racer for a day than a fan for life.

@@C.JFomme I said that tony stewart called deegan a hell of a driver. I'd rather take the word of tony stewart over people on KZfaq and Twitter any day

If she got her butt off Tiktok and in the garage she might have that support. Does she want to be a race car driver or a celebrity?

The delusion is crazy😭

I have a suspicion that her sponsorship money just gets diverted to other parts of an organization rather than to her rides. After she left DGR/Tricon, suddenly they are fielding 4 or 5 trucks, and she was clearly an afterthought at Thorsport.

I'm sorry but at some point, you just gotta stop and realize that Deegan isn't good. I don't hate Deegan but she can be successful somewhere else instead of being a complete bust in NASCAR. Me and others can't and won't defend her awfulness anymore.

Thing is, nascar's business model doesn't depend on good drivers. Of all the drivers to ever start a cup race, only 6% have ever won a single race. The rest are just field fillers. If you just had a field of cars who were competitive, you'd have the old IROC. Also, DNFs wouldn't mean a damn thing without a large field and the large points drop because of a DNF. So that being said, and nobody has ever been able to answer this question, why does Deegan not deserve to carve out a career for herself, even as a field filler like thousands of other drivers have done?